RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
-Original Message- From: Les Mikesell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:14 PM To: Tom Brown Cc: 'Brent'; backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 13:00, Tom Brown wrote: > > > >>I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for > >>my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a > >>pig, > > Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble > > if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that > > needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix > > updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to > > put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when > > the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can > > just mount your existing archive and go on. > > > "but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just > security/bugfix updates" > > *cough* debian *cough* > > Or, Slackware. Centos inherits it's release schedule from the Red Hat Enterprise base version, gets security fixes quickly and has batched bugfix updates so you don't have many surprises. While it normally does not have version-level updates to packages, many additions are backported so if the current Centos-4.2 doesn't include the drivers you need, the upcoming 4.3 update may. I've never quite understood the debian release schedule or versioning scheme to be able to compare them. Debian does have the advantage of a packaged backuppc installation but that isn't difficult to do for yourself. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Slackware issues package bug and security fixes for several versions when required. For example, a security fix for fetchmail was recently released for Slackware 8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, and current. This is possible because official Slackware is a relatively small, tightly controlled distribution which improves at deliberate speed. From the brochure: "End of life arrives predictably, and the aging Slackware installation is well cared for until the inevitable last days of service. If version immortality is appealing, the hopeful admin can maintain the 'current' Slackware tree like a treasured bonsai to pass on to his or her successors." Tom --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 13:00, Tom Brown wrote: > > > >>I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for > >>my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a > >>pig, > > Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble > > if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that > > needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix > > updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to > > put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when > > the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can > > just mount your existing archive and go on. > > > "but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just > security/bugfix updates" > > *cough* debian *cough* > > Or, Slackware. Centos inherits it's release schedule from the Red Hat Enterprise base version, gets security fixes quickly and has batched bugfix updates so you don't have many surprises. While it normally does not have version-level updates to packages, many additions are backported so if the current Centos-4.2 doesn't include the drivers you need, the upcoming 4.3 update may. I've never quite understood the debian release schedule or versioning scheme to be able to compare them. Debian does have the advantage of a packaged backuppc installation but that isn't difficult to do for yourself. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:03 PM To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for >>my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a >>pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have >>trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden >>from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone >>out there using for this? > > > Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble > if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that > needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix > updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to > put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when > the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can > just mount your existing archive and go on. > "but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix updates" *cough* debian *cough* Or, Slackware. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for >>my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a >>pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have >>trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden >>from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone >>out there using for this? > > > Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble > if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that > needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix > updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to > put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when > the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can > just mount your existing archive and go on. > "but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix updates" *cough* debian *cough* --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for > my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a > pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have > trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden > from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone > out there using for this? Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can just mount your existing archive and go on. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I run Slackware for the same reasons Mike runs Centos. I also place backuppc on its own drive. Tom --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
Dan Pritts wrote: > > I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to > > give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what > > linux distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new > > platform will be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 > > motherboard. > > i'd suggest you pay more attention to the disk subsystem than to the CPU > power. BackupPC uses lots of I/O resources. > > SCSI disks, or SATA with command queuing (ie, not all SATA disks), should > help a lot witht he problem of backuppc having to issue a lot of disk seeks. > > others are on track regarding linux distros. we use red hat and debian > (and solaris, which is where i run backuppc) here. I would agree that any modern Linux distro will do. For what is worth, and to add to your confusion ;-), I use SuSE (10.0), and it works like a charm. SuSE, by the way, works (and has done so for a long time) very well with Athlon64 and Opteron CPUs. As for chipset, I have one running on a NForce4 mobo at home, and I've had no problems. And yes, disks (and memory, depending on how many files you have) are more important than anything else. For my recently installed backup server, I was going to go with an Athlon64 on a Nforce4 motherboard, for cost reasons, but the PCI bus there is limited to 32-bit/33 MHz. I finally decided on an Opteron, which allows me to have a motherboard with PCI-X up to 133 MHz, and 64 bit width. For RAID controllers, I'm using one 3ware 9500S-12 and one 3ware 8506-4, both of which are 66MHz/64-bit. As for RAM, well, my situation may not be typical, but I have 2 GB on the backup server and 3 GB on the client, and it seems I need more. True, I'm backing up over 1 TB, and partitions are relatively large (~300 GB on average). Bernardo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
I love debian. Just apt-get install backuppc and it is ready to go. ski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone, I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what linux distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new platform will be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 motherboard. I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone out there using for this? Regards, Jamie Myers -- "When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it connected to the entire universe"John Muir Chris "Ski" Kacoroski, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 206-501-9803 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:36:40AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey everyone, > I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to > give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what > linux distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new > platform will be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 > motherboard. i'd suggest you pay more attention to the disk subsystem than to the CPU power. BackupPC uses lots of I/O resources. SCSI disks, or SATA with command queuing (ie, not all SATA disks), should help a lot witht he problem of backuppc having to issue a lot of disk seeks. others are on track regarding linux distros. we use red hat and debian (and solaris, which is where i run backuppc) here. danno -- dan pritts - systems administrator - internet2 734/352-4953 office734/834-7224 mobile --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
the fact is that all Linux distro will do just fine for your purpose. They all use the same kernel, same perl , rsync, gcc...etc. It only difference is how they package them and what comes with it. of course software installation could be exteremly with centain distro. Personally I've tried tons of distros and I love gentoo. :) On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We're running BackupPC on a Mandriva 2006.0 free edition (and previously on a 2005LE) and it works like a charm. we are using xfs filesystem and we do export it using xfscopy (which is a dd that only copies used blocks to another filesystem of file) thic xfscopy tool has the advantage of not handleling inodes renumbering (common problem to all dump utils). I've created rpm packages for 2.1.2pl1 and I've also created a specific package for a skin for my company intranet. Upgrade is done un 20 minutes (format + auto_install). All pool and data is stored on a 1.6TB DELL DS220 drive bay. Wonderfull config, and wonderfull software. Looking forward for BackupPCd, the new client daemon based transfert method that would backup windows openned files (and more). Olivier. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: lundi 20 février 2006 21:37To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on Hey everyone, I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what linux distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new platform will be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 motherboard. I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone out there using for this? Regards, Jamie Myers -- Travis Wu | Systems AdministratorCapital Printing Systems Inc.Two Grand Central Tower140 East 45th Street, 36th FloorNew York, NY 10017P: 212.201.3444 | B: 212.945.8630F: 212.201.3401 | www.capitalprinting.comemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
We're running BackupPC on a Mandriva 2006.0 free edition (and previously on a 2005LE) and it works like a charm. we are using xfs filesystem and we do export it using xfscopy (which is a dd that only copies used blocks to another filesystem of file) thic xfscopy tool has the advantage of not handleling inodes renumbering (common problem to all dump utils). I've created rpm packages for 2.1.2pl1 and I've also created a specific package for a skin for my company intranet. Upgrade is done un 20 minutes (format + auto_install). All pool and data is stored on a 1.6TB DELL DS220 drive bay. Wonderfull config, and wonderfull software. Looking forward for BackupPCd, the new client daemon based transfert method that would backup windows openned files (and more). Olivier. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: lundi 20 février 2006 21:37To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on Hey everyone, I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what linux distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new platform will be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 motherboard. I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone out there using for this? Regards, Jamie Myers
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
nah Centos is yuk, you want Debian or Ubuntu.. yum is about as slow as my grandmaOn 2/21/06, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for> my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a> pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have > trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden> from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone> out there using for this?Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server thatneeds to keep running a long time with just security/bugfixupdates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea toput your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you canjust mount your existing archive and go on.-- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642___ BackupPC-users mailing listBackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/-- Best Regards,Stephen
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have tried Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for > my motherboard) and it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a > pig, I have trid the free mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have > trouble trying to vnc to it (I think there is some IPSec rule hidden > from me in it I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone > out there using for this? Fedora has a very short life cycle that may be worth the trouble if you want the latest desktop apps, but for a server that needs to keep running a long time with just security/bugfix updates I like Centos. In any case it is a good idea to put your backuppc installation on it's own disk so when the time comes to completely reinstall a new OS you can just mount your existing archive and go on. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
Definately give Ubuntu a try. As Carl mentioned, it's basically Debian but with a quicker release cycle. I used to sware by Debian, but I'm quickly changing my tune. I'm running both a Ubuntu Desktop at home and a remote server and haven't had any issues. The fact that it has more up-to-date packages than Debian is another plus. It was nice to be able to type apt-get install backuppc and have the system up and working in no time. Brian On 2/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > I am currently in the process of rebuilding my backuppc machine to > give it some extra grunt. I was hoping to get peoples thoughts on what linux > distros are in use out there and who recommends what? The new platform will > be a dual core AMD Athlon64 running on a Nforce4 motherboard. I have tried > Fedora core 5 (Core 4 doesn't have the right drivers for my motherboard) and > it's only in test 2 at the momnt and runs like a pig, I have trid the free > mandriva and it runs very nice, but I have trouble trying to vnc to it (I > think there is some IPSec rule hidden from me in it I was thinking of > trying Ubuntu What is everyone out there using for this? > > Regards, > > Jamie Myers --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Recommended distro to run Backuppc on
On 02/21 07:36 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was thinking of trying Ubuntu What is everyone out > there using for this? Debian is the only way to go. :) Fastest install, easiest upgrades, least hassle. the amd64 version is still pretty new; but the 32-bit version is fine for now. (that's what I'm running). Ubuntu is pretty much a fork of Debian; and should work as well, if you want the sticky-sweet-GUI-ness. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
