[Bacula-users] Markus Kress is out of the office

2014-09-07 Thread Markus Kress

Ich werde ab  06.09.2014 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am
10.09.2014.



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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-dir stuck trying to mount the wrong volume

2014-09-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

It is not a question that I will not document something, why would I
write code and discuss it if I did not want to document it?  It *was* a
question that I incorrectly thought it was already documented. 

What some people tend to forget is that I am doing this for free, I
volunteer for this.  Most people have a job and they use Bacula to get
their job done, and they get paid for what they do -- not me.   For
transparency: I do have a salary for Bacula Systems, but it is only
symbolic.  I make less than any other employee in Bacula Systems, and
probably less than the cleaning lady -- this is no exaggeration.

That simply means that I do everything for Bacula for free, as I have
done so for 14 years.   With volunteers such as myself, if one wants
something, the agreeable approach that 99.9% of the people on this list
take is more in the non-contemptuous spirit of this list and much more
likely to get results.

Thanks for pointing out the problems and undocumented features.  Despite
having my motivation sapped, I will see what I can do.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 12:03 AM, Dmitri Maziuk wrote:
 On 9/6/2014 2:59 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 ...
 perhaps I am overly sensitive

 I've been dealing with other people's software for a living for close
 to two decades now and familiarity brings contempt. So yeah, I don't
 like software -- with very few exceptions, and bacula isn't one of
 them, I am jaded and sarcastic, and I don't like your position in the
 bareos debacle. So you're to some (large) extent correct on all
 counts. Keep telling us about wonderful features of your product that
 you won't document because I looked at you funny, see how many fans
 that wins you.

 Dimitri



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Re: [Bacula-users] Restore from dead client

2014-09-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
On 09/07/2014 02:38 AM, Kenny Noe wrote:
 Dan,

 Appreciate the reply   Yes this is exactly what I want to do.
 However when I try to just do a simple restore, the job finishes
 with the error previously given.

 Any suggestions to do this would be appreciated.

Working with pipes or fifos is tricky, and the message about interrupted
system call (or something along that line) indicates that your the
conditions to make the pipe/fifo work are not properly setup.

I recommend simplifying things.

Best regards,
Kern


 Thanks--Kenny

 On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote:
 On Sep 5, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Kenny Noe knoe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Birre,

 Thanks for the reply.   I guess this is where I get lost...



 The fifo is reading a file that was created in the pre-process called
 mail.tar.  The mail.tar is made from the following directories /opt/zimbra
 and /var/mail/zimbra.  This is where the Zimbra files and mailstore were
 kept.

 This pre-process is a script that has this :

 MailBackup.bash
 #!/bin/bash

 exec /dev/null

 MKDIR=/bin/mkdir
 MKFIFO=/usr/bin/mkfifo
 RM=/bin/rm
 TAR=/bin/tar

 DEFCODE=0
 DUMPBASE=/data/backups

 errCode=${DEFCODE}
 mailDir=/var/mail/zimbra
 zimbraDir=/opt/zimbra

 Main()
{
service zimbra stop

RunMailRestore

service zimbra start

ExitScript ${errCode}
}

 RunMailRestore()
{
EXTENSION=.tar

dumpDir=${DUMPBASE}/mail
fifoDir=${dumpDir}/fifo

RebuildFifoDir

${MKFIFO} ${fifoDir}/mail${EXTENSION}

${TAR} -xpf ${fifoDir}/mail${EXTENSION} 21 /dev/null 
}

 RebuildFifoDir()
{
if [ -d ${fifoDir} ]
then
   ${RM} -rf ${fifoDir}
fi

${MKDIR} -p ${fifoDir}
}

 ExitScript()
{
exit ${1}
}

 Main

 The restore script simply does a tar xpf instead of a tar cpf.


 Perhaps instead of doing that, just restore the data, and then do the tar
 xpf later.
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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula for OSX 10.9

2014-09-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not 
 found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

 Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to 
 an Ubuntu server.

This would be a good way to setup Bacula.  The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04).  For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet.  Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD.   Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.

If you have the budget, I *strongly* recommend taking the Bacula Systems
Admin I training.  It will provide you with everything you need to know
and if you ask in advance, they can probably help you with the Mac builds.

Best regards,
Kern


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Re: [Bacula-users] Restore from dead client

2014-09-07 Thread Dan Langille
I suggest removing the before  after scripts. 

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 On Sep 6, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Kenny Noe knoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dan,
 
 Appreciate the reply   Yes this is exactly what I want to do.
 However when I try to just do a simple restore, the job finishes
 with the error previously given.
 
 Any suggestions to do this would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks--Kenny
 
 On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote:
 
 On Sep 5, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Kenny Noe knoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Birre,
 
 Thanks for the reply.   I guess this is where I get lost...
 
 
 
 The fifo is reading a file that was created in the pre-process called
 mail.tar.  The mail.tar is made from the following directories /opt/zimbra
 and /var/mail/zimbra.  This is where the Zimbra files and mailstore were
 kept.
 
 This pre-process is a script that has this :
 
 MailBackup.bash
 #!/bin/bash
 
 exec /dev/null
 
 MKDIR=/bin/mkdir
 MKFIFO=/usr/bin/mkfifo
 RM=/bin/rm
 TAR=/bin/tar
 
 DEFCODE=0
 DUMPBASE=/data/backups
 
 errCode=${DEFCODE}
 mailDir=/var/mail/zimbra
 zimbraDir=/opt/zimbra
 
 Main()
   {
   service zimbra stop
 
   RunMailRestore
 
   service zimbra start
 
   ExitScript ${errCode}
   }
 
 RunMailRestore()
   {
   EXTENSION=.tar
 
   dumpDir=${DUMPBASE}/mail
   fifoDir=${dumpDir}/fifo
 
   RebuildFifoDir
 
   ${MKFIFO} ${fifoDir}/mail${EXTENSION}
 
   ${TAR} -xpf ${fifoDir}/mail${EXTENSION} 21 /dev/null 
   }
 
 RebuildFifoDir()
   {
   if [ -d ${fifoDir} ]
   then
  ${RM} -rf ${fifoDir}
   fi
 
   ${MKDIR} -p ${fifoDir}
   }
 
 ExitScript()
   {
   exit ${1}
   }
 
 Main
 
 The restore script simply does a tar xpf instead of a tar cpf.
 
 
 Perhaps instead of doing that, just restore the data, and then do the tar
 xpf later.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula for OSX 10.9

2014-09-07 Thread Paul Mather
On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not 
 found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.
 
 Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to 
 an Ubuntu server.
 
 This would be a good way to setup Bacula.  The Director, SD and catalog
 work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04).  For the
 Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
 Internet.  Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
 Mac, you can easily build the FD.   Later this year, Bacula Systems will
 provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.

I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew 
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to 
install the client.  Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13), 
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula for OSX 10.9

2014-09-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional.  I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

  bacula/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a piece of cake.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
 On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not 
 found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on 
 Mac.

 Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs 
 to an Ubuntu server.
 This would be a good way to setup Bacula.  The Director, SD and catalog
 work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04).  For the
 Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
 Internet.  Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
 Mac, you can easily build the FD.   Later this year, Bacula Systems will
 provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
 I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew 
 (http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to 
 install the client.  Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13), 
 though.

 I hope this helps.

 Cheers,

 Paul.



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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula for OSX 10.9

2014-09-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello,

No I am not familiar with homebrew.  Sorry, I guess I was not very
clear, but my comment about not very professional was not at all
directed at homebrew.  It was directed at people who produce xx.tar
files when there are package systems available for a particular platform
whether it be .rpm, .deb, .dmg, ...  My point was that it is more
professional to use packages (if they exist) than .tar files.

The package built by the Bacula script does not itself do automatic
package updates, though it is possible that with a mac package manager
it all would work.  Other than having run the scripts and produced
Bacula Mac packages, I am not at all familiar with the details.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 06:03 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
 On Sep 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
 a xxx.dmg file.
 Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional.  I am not
 sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.
 Oh, I see you're not familiar with Homebrew.  It is a package manager 
 for OS X, sort of in the same vein as Fink and MacPorts.  It's popular 
 with a lot of people who want access to lots of Unix open source 
 software and be able to manage it on an ongoing basis.

 I wouldn't decry it as being not very professional unless you also 
 consider the likes of yum, apt-get, pkg, etc. to be not very 
 professional, too.  Sure, it's a different way, but not an unfamiliar 
 metaphor for someone working with an Ubuntu server (as the OP 
 mentioned), which is the only reason I mentioned it.

 I agree that using .dmg files is more commonplace on OS X.  Does the OS 
 X version include an option to check for updates?  I've never used it.

 As you pointed out in your original reply, For the Mac's someone 
 probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the Internet.  
 I did a quick Web search and it seemed that was not the case.  I 
 couldn't find any.  So, it's great that Bacula Systems will be 
 providing free OS X binaries later this year.  That will be another 
 excellent resource for the Bacula community.

 In the meantime, folks can build their own from source, or maybe use 
 Homebrew to do the same. ;-)

 The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
 source distribution in:

  bacula/platforms/osx/README

 Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a piece of cake.
 It's pretty easy to install with Homebrew, too: brew install bacula-fd

 Cheers,

 Paul.

 Best regards,
 Kern

 On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
 On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
 I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not 
 found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on 
 Mac.

 Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs 
 to an Ubuntu server.
 This would be a good way to setup Bacula.  The Director, SD and catalog
 work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04).  For the
 Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
 Internet.  Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
 Mac, you can easily build the FD.   Later this year, Bacula Systems will
 provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
 I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew 
 (http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to 
 install the client.  Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13), 
 though.

 I hope this helps.

 Cheers,

 Paul.



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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-dir stuck trying to mount the wrong volume

2014-09-07 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 9/7/2014 4:33 AM, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 It is not a question that I will not document something, why would I
 write code and discuss it if I did not want to document it?  It *was* a
 question that I incorrectly thought it was already documented.

 What some people tend to forget is that I am doing this for free, I
 volunteer for this.

I'm lucky to get paid for writing (when I get a chance to write instead 
of unfsck'ing other people's code gone haywire) public domain code. I 
don't have a problem when somebody else wants to get paid for their 
work. So come out and say it: if you buy enterprise license we'll tell 
you how to use virtual autochanger, or symlinks, or bandwidth 
limitation, whatever. I may not have a budget for it, but I won't bitch 
about it.

What you're doing instead is not helping your case.

We had this stupid joke back when I was a kid: do you like tomatoes? -- 
To eat: yes, otherwise: not so much. Of course I don't like bacula, 
last time I liked a piece of software it was the original portal. D'uh.

Dimitri



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[Bacula-users] is there a way to rename an active volume?

2014-09-07 Thread Gary Dale
Not a big deal, but somehow I've ended up with a file storage volume 
that has a different naming convention from others in the pool. The 
naming convention was daily-backup- + a single-digit volume number. 
The amount of data keeps growing so I need to add new volumes from time 
to time. Somehow the last time I ended up with one with the wrong name.

I don't actually need to rename it. Migrating to another volume in the 
same pool would also work, as would telling bacula to stop using it for 
new backups, so that it would eventually be empty.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula for OSX 10.9

2014-09-07 Thread Dan Langille

On Sep 7, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz edannew...@rdschool.org wrote:

 I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not 
 found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.
 
 Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to 
 an Ubuntu server.
 

I documented my 2011 install procedure: 
http://dan.langille.org/2011/04/02/getting-bacula-running-on-my-macbook/





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