Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-07 Thread Phil Stracchino 
On 05/07/18 17:48, Steve Garcia wrote:
> Honestly, it looks like the kind of website that would appeal to a marketer, 
> but not to a techie.  When I run into this sort of site, I start wondering if 
> there's any substance to it -- if I already know something about the tool, 
> I'll probably start poking around to see if there's anything useful there, 
> but if I don't, I'll probably get discouraged and go somewhere else.  I 
> suppose if you need a page to send your boss to, this might be OK, but it's 
> certainly not something that would build my confidence.
> 
> And yes, this does bring the project's site *down* the the current 
> "standards", mostly designed by consultants who are all about brochures and 
> "branding" and other buzzwords.


I think you possibly judge it a bit too harshly.  It does look much more
professional, and that's important for convincing the guys in the front
office who make the purchasing decisions.  You know,the ones who get
taken to lunch once a month by the Microsoft account rep, the Oracle rep
the next day, the IBM Tivoli guy the day after that...

But hey, look half a page down and there's changelog highlights *right
on the front page*.

My first impression is it's clean, effective, but not overdone.  Sure,
some of the shiny is technically *unnecessary*; but the truth is it
doesn't *hurt*, and if you have the habit of avoiding any site that
looks a bit shiny, you're not going to find much that you can sell the
front-office guys on.  These are the realities of selling to business.


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Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-07 Thread Dimitri Maziuk 
On 05/07/2018 04:48 PM, Steve Garcia wrote:

> And yes, this does bring the project's site *down* the the current "standards"
I just went and looked at the saltstack site, and then to puppet site. I
almost laughed out loud: it's almost *the same site*. And bacula is
different only in that there's a photo of smiling guy that signifies...
what, exactly?

(And by the way, how do you cool that server room? -- don't tell me it's
just a big open room with in-ceiling HVAC ins and outs. ;)
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Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-07 Thread Steve Garcia 
Honestly, it looks like the kind of website that would appeal to a marketer, 
but not to a techie.  When I run into this sort of site, I start wondering if 
there's any substance to it -- if I already know something about the tool, I'll 
probably start poking around to see if there's anything useful there, but if I 
don't, I'll probably get discouraged and go somewhere else.  I suppose if you 
need a page to send your boss to, this might be OK, but it's certainly not 
something that would build my confidence.

And yes, this does bring the project's site *down* the the current "standards", 
mostly designed by consultants who are all about brochures and "branding" and 
other buzzwords.


Steve Garcia
Ignorance killed the cat, curiosity was framed.

 Kern Sibbald  wrote: 
> Hello,

Some of you may be interested to take a preview of the new Bacula.org 
web site.  Of course, you are also encouraged to make comments and 
suggestions before it goes live.  Type the following into your browser's 
URL:

     new.bacula.org

No https at the moment.

FYI: Bacula Systems sponsored this new web site to help bring the 
project web site up to current "standards".

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Kern


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Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-07 Thread John Lockard 
I actually think the removal of the animated dots would make the site more
readable.  The motion on the screen is sort of nauseating while trying to
read and makes me want to not read any more.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:37 AM, Sven Hartge  wrote:

> On 07.05.2018 07:07, Kern Sibbald wrote:
>
> > FYI: Bacula Systems sponsored this new web site to help bring the
> > project web site up to current "standards".
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing from you.
>
> Well, takes 8MB and ~8s to fully load (with another 6MB in the next 10
> seconds) over a 1GBit/s connection from DFN in Germany.
>
> A bit on the heavy side, no?
>
> The biggest files being some included videos from googlevideos.com with
> ~1.2MB each.
>
> Plus when the site is in focus, Chrome uses about 130% CPU on my system
> (using a i7-7820HQ, so a 8-HT-Core system).
>
> Do you really really need all those video-animated backgrounds, for
> example in the "Testimonials" area? Removing those does not make the
> site look any worse but dramatically cuts down on a) transferred bytes
> and b) CPU and RAM usage.
>
> Grüße,
> Sven.
>
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-07 Thread Sven Hartge 
On 07.05.2018 07:07, Kern Sibbald wrote:

> FYI: Bacula Systems sponsored this new web site to help bring the
> project web site up to current "standards".
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you.

Well, takes 8MB and ~8s to fully load (with another 6MB in the next 10
seconds) over a 1GBit/s connection from DFN in Germany.

A bit on the heavy side, no?

The biggest files being some included videos from googlevideos.com with
~1.2MB each.

Plus when the site is in focus, Chrome uses about 130% CPU on my system
(using a i7-7820HQ, so a 8-HT-Core system).

Do you really really need all those video-animated backgrounds, for
example in the "Testimonials" area? Removing those does not make the
site look any worse but dramatically cuts down on a) transferred bytes
and b) CPU and RAM usage.

Grüße,
Sven.




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[Bacula-users] New Bacula web site

2018-05-06 Thread Kern Sibbald 

Hello,

Some of you may be interested to take a preview of the new Bacula.org 
web site.  Of course, you are also encouraged to make comments and 
suggestions before it goes live.  Type the following into your browser's 
URL:


    new.bacula.org

No https at the moment.

FYI: Bacula Systems sponsored this new web site to help bring the 
project web site up to current "standards".


Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Kern


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