Re: [Bacula-users] Calling client script ( Before / After jobs ) with parameters
El mar, 23-10-2007 a las 20:35 +0200, Arno Lehmann escribió: Hello, I'm a completely python ignorant, and before spend time trying to understand how to translate this behavior to python way of life, I prefer ear from you. You won't get my ear :-) Ahem... ok, may be I prefer listen :P The abstract idea is to define the rman variables informed in the client definitions and using the same job definition for standard backup procedures The rest of your approach seems reasonable and should be easily implemented. I found python was easy to learn and use, so for me it was definitely worth the effort. Of course, using bash or whatever shell you prefer can be done, too. I think it's more or less a question of what you prefer. If you start working on it, and expect to spend some time on this anyway, I'd suggest to pipe the rman output to Bacula directly, without the need of a dump file in between. That saves you a bit of disk space on the client. That's very interesting, I will investigate how rman works with fifos, but afaik, fifo has a maximum throughput of 8K/s, it's correct? The necessary parts are all available - you can backup from and restore to a FIFO in Bacula, and you can call scripts to set up the pipes and reader/writer processes. There are examples available, I'd start reading at wiki.bacula.org if I were you. I will take a look to see if fifo approach fits well in bacula/rman integration. Of course, whatever you come up with might be worth adding to the wiki, too. Arno Thanks again D. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Calling client script ( Before / After jobs ) with parameters
Hi, 24.10.2007 10:44,, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:: El mar, 23-10-2007 a las 20:35 +0200, Arno Lehmann escribió: Hello, I'm a completely python ignorant, and before spend time trying to understand how to translate this behavior to python way of life, I prefer ear from you. You won't get my ear :-) Ahem... ok, may be I prefer listen :P The abstract idea is to define the rman variables informed in the client definitions and using the same job definition for standard backup procedures Yeah... well, passing the parameters through the command definition in the job should work. Getting them from outside of Bacula might be more complicated, but you'd have to try that... The rest of your approach seems reasonable and should be easily implemented. I found python was easy to learn and use, so for me it was definitely worth the effort. Of course, using bash or whatever shell you prefer can be done, too. I think it's more or less a question of what you prefer. If you start working on it, and expect to spend some time on this anyway, I'd suggest to pipe the rman output to Bacula directly, without the need of a dump file in between. That saves you a bit of disk space on the client. That's very interesting, I will investigate how rman works with fifos, but afaik, fifo has a maximum throughput of 8K/s, it's correct? Not per se... see here: neuelf:/tmp # mkfifo testfifo neuelf:/tmp # cat testfifo /dev/null [1] 22889 neuelf:/tmp # dd if=/dev/zero bs=4096 of=testfifo count=2M 2097152+0 records in 2097152+0 records out 8589934592 bytes (8.6 GB) copied, 17.5983 s, 488 MB/s [1]+ Donecat testfifo /dev/null A bit better than 8k/second, I'd say. This is on a dual-core Opteron running a 2.6.22.5 linux kernel, by the way. The machine is practically idle all the time. The necessary parts are all available - you can backup from and restore to a FIFO in Bacula, and you can call scripts to set up the pipes and reader/writer processes. There are examples available, I'd start reading at wiki.bacula.org if I were you. I will take a look to see if fifo approach fits well in bacula/rman integration. As far as I know, it should. Not being an Oracle user, I don't have the personal experience, though. Arno Of course, whatever you come up with might be worth adding to the wiki, too. Arno Thanks again D. -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Calling client script ( Before / After jobs ) with parameters
Hello, 23.10.2007 16:03,, David Ballester wrote:: Hi to all: I'm currently working on the integration with bacula and rman, the tool to make backups/restores of Oracle databases. Good idea. Reading bacula documentation, seems that some releases before, the admin was able to define environment variables inside bacula ( and use them as parameters for the scripts called on before/after jobs ) I never noticed that, but I never looked for that, too. but now this method seems deprecated in favor of python scripting. Using python, it should be possible to access the environment as well. Again, I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know if Bacula sets up the environment it inherits when started. My idea is to make standard scripts ( less maintenance and advantages on adding new databases to backup ) that 'point to' the database/catalog to backup using parameters, like this example: /home/oracle/bin/full_backup_rman10g.sh rman catalog connection chain ORACLE_SID_TO_BACKUP ARCHIVELOG_MODE_OF_DATABASE_TO_BACKUP Then should be called in bacula like this: Client Run Before Job=/home/oracle/bin/full_backup_rman.sh sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORCL NOARCHIVELOG With this approach we could be able to deploy a set of identical scripts ( no internal modification for each host with Oracle to be protected and of course, no changes lost if we need to upgrade this scripts) in the same way even if we use rman locally in the host with the oracle database ( or databases ) to back up or if we use the same machine where bacula-dir relays or if we use a third machine to consolidate all rman procedures, etc... I'm a completely python ignorant, and before spend time trying to understand how to translate this behavior to python way of life, I prefer ear from you. You won't get my ear :-) The rest of your approach seems reasonable and should be easily implemented. I found python was easy to learn and use, so for me it was definitely worth the effort. Of course, using bash or whatever shell you prefer can be done, too. I think it's more or less a question of what you prefer. If you start working on it, and expect to spend some time on this anyway, I'd suggest to pipe the rman output to Bacula directly, without the need of a dump file in between. That saves you a bit of disk space on the client. The necessary parts are all available - you can backup from and restore to a FIFO in Bacula, and you can call scripts to set up the pipes and reader/writer processes. There are examples available, I'd start reading at wiki.bacula.org if I were you. Of course, whatever you come up with might be worth adding to the wiki, too. Arno Thanks in advance D. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
