Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Andreas Helmcke
On 21.06.2007 23:08, Brian Debelius wrote:
 Why does bacula ask for a slot number to mount, when I mount my VXA 
 autochanger?  It seems to me, that bacula should load whatever tape it 
 feels appropriate automatically when the autochanger is loaded.  I 
 usually just pick some random number to load, assuming that bacula will 
 (it alwasy seems to) unload and load the correct tape when the scheduled 
 jobs run.
 
If you mount the tape to unlock a drive, which was locked due to an
manual unmount you can use slot 0 for the mount.
This will unlock the drive, so it can be used by bacula without loading
a tape.

Andreas


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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Alan Brown
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007, Brian Debelius wrote:

 Why does bacula ask for a slot number to mount, when I mount my VXA
 autochanger?

It allows you to select a specific tape to mount.

If you have no specific tape to mount, use slot 0


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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Debelius
Andreas Helmcke wrote:
 On 21.06.2007 23:08, Brian Debelius wrote:
   
 Why does bacula ask for a slot number to mount, when I mount my VXA 
 autochanger?  It seems to me, that bacula should load whatever tape it 
 feels appropriate automatically when the autochanger is loaded.  I 
 usually just pick some random number to load, assuming that bacula will 
 (it alwasy seems to) unload and load the correct tape when the scheduled 
 jobs run.

 
 If you mount the tape to unlock a drive, which was locked due to an
 manual unmount you can use slot 0 for the mount.
 This will unlock the drive, so it can be used by bacula without loading
 a tape.

 Andreas


   
If I mount using slot 0, I receive the following, Is this the expect 
response?

*mount
The defined Storage resources are:
 1: Disk0
 2: Disk1
 3: Tape
Select Storage resource (1-3): 3
Enter autochanger slot: 0
3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command.
3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded.
3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command.
3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded.
3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command.
3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded.
3902 Cannot mount Volume on Storage Device VXA-172 (Tape0) because:
Couldn't rewind device VXA-172 (Tape0): ERR=../../stored/dev.c:767 
Rewind error on VXA-172 (Tape0). ERR=Unknown error.
3905 Device VXA-172 (Tape0) open but no Bacula volume is mounted.
If this is not a blank tape, try unmounting and remounting the Volume.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread John Drescher
 No, I never pick the right one.  Nor do I try.  I don;t want to have to
 think about it.  I want Bacula to do the work :)

I never umount an autochanger but at times I do use the release
command. I have to say that a lot of these problems with bacula and
autochangers have been fixed recently but to take advantage of these
fixes you need the latest beta which is 2.1.20.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Debelius
John Drescher wrote:
 No, I never pick the right one.  Nor do I try.  I don;t want to have to
 think about it.  I want Bacula to do the work :)

 I never umount an autochanger but at times I do use the release
 command. I have to say that a lot of these problems with bacula and
 autochangers have been fixed recently but to take advantage of these
 fixes you need the latest beta which is 2.1.20.

 John
ok.

I use umount to unload a tape that is in the tape drive.  Is this not 
the right way to do this?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread John Drescher
 I use umount to unload a tape that is in the tape drive.  Is this not
 the right way to do this?

I am not sure what version added this command but release does the
same job for autochangers but it does not cause the need to mount. I
believe the difference is umount also releases the drive from bacula's
control where release only unloads the tape in the drive.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Debelius
John Drescher wrote:
 I use umount to unload a tape that is in the tape drive.  Is this not
 the right way to do this?

 I am not sure what version added this command but release does the
 same job for autochangers but it does not cause the need to mount. I
 believe the difference is umount also releases the drive from bacula's
 control where release only unloads the tape in the drive.

 John
That worked.  Thanks.  I have v2.1.10

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Andreas Helmcke
On 22.06.2007 16:55, Brian Debelius wrote:
 Andreas Helmcke wrote:
 If you mount the tape to unlock a drive, which was locked due to an
 manual unmount you can use slot 0 for the mount.
 This will unlock the drive, so it can be used by bacula without loading
 a tape.

 If I mount using slot 0, I receive the following, Is this the expect 
 response?
 
 [...]
 3902 Cannot mount Volume on Storage Device VXA-172 (Tape0) because:
 Couldn't rewind device VXA-172 (Tape0): ERR=../../stored/dev.c:767 
 Rewind error on VXA-172 (Tape0). ERR=Unknown error.
 3905 Device VXA-172 (Tape0) open but no Bacula volume is mounted.
 If this is not a blank tape, try unmounting and remounting the Volume.
 
It is normal to get an error message, because there is no tape loaded.

The message I get is:
3901 open device failed: ERR=dev.c:428 Unable to open device Drive-3
(/dev/nst3): ERR=No medium found

But this might depend on the drive / bacula version in use. (btw what is
your version?)

You might also check the output of
 status storage=Tape
to see what the storage deaemon thinks about the drive status.

Andreas



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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Nelson
When I go over to the co-lo to change tapes, I go into bconsole and 
umount the autochanger.  Then I eject the magazine from the 
autochanger's front panel, replace the tapes, shove the magazine back in 
and wait for the autochanger to stop doing whatever mysterious thrashing 
it does, then I update slots and mount.

This works, and works a whole lot more cleanly than the equivalent 
procedure used to work under 1.39 (I am on 2.02 now).

Should I be doing this a different way?

Michael

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread John Drescher
 This works, and works a whole lot more cleanly than the equivalent
 procedure used to work under 1.39 (I am on 2.02 now).

 Should I be doing this a different way?

This is ok. The other method avoids having to mount. Just release each
drive that has a tape in it from the changer than you can change the
magazines and wait till the auto loader has finished performing an
inventory of the tapes and finally an update slots. I have executed
the update slots on my changer before the inventory has finished and
in my case it waits till the changer is done and then does the
command. I am not sure if this happens on all changers though. I have
an exabyte Magnum224 with 2 LTO2 drives.
John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-22 Thread Michael Nelson
John Drescher wrote:
 This is ok. The other method avoids having to mount. Just release each
 drive that has a tape in it from the changer than you can change the
 magazines and wait till the auto loader has finished performing an
 inventory of the tapes and finally an update slots. I have executed
 the update slots on my changer before the inventory has finished and
 in my case it waits till the changer is done and then does the
 command. I am not sure if this happens on all changers though. I have
 an exabyte Magnum224 with 2 LTO2 drives.
 John

I hate getting surprised by commands like this.  So I looked at the 
current docs at http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/index.html.  The only 
mentions of release don't have anything to do with this command. 

So I figure it must be in the section for bconsole.  Wait, bconsole 
isn't mentioned in the index either. 

Ah, maybe under Console Index. Yep, there it is.

release
This command is used to cause the Storage daemon to rewind (release) 
the current tape in the drive, and to re-read the Volume label the next 
time the tape is used.

release storage=storage-name

After a release command, the device is still kept open by Bacula 
(unless Always Open is set to No in the Storage Daemon's configuration) 
so it cannot be used by another program. However, with some tape drives, 
the operator can remove the current tape and to insert a different one, 
and when the next Job starts, Bacula will know to re-read the tape label 
to find out what tape is mounted. If you want to be able to use the 
drive with another program (e.g. mt), you must use the unmount command 
to cause Bacula to completely release (close) the device.

Thanks
Michael

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Re: [Bacula-users] Mounting autochanger

2007-06-21 Thread Michael Nelson
Brian Debelius wrote:
 Why does bacula ask for a slot number to mount, when I mount my VXA 
 autochanger?  It seems to me, that bacula should load whatever tape it 
 feels appropriate automatically when the autochanger is loaded.  I 
 usually just pick some random number to load, assuming that bacula will 
 (it alwasy seems to) unload and load the correct tape when the scheduled 
 jobs run.
Haha!  Do you ever guess right?  I never do.  Whatever slot I pick, it 
has to unload it and load a different one when the first job runs. ;-)

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