Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Hi, On 2/26/2007 10:01 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 2/26/2007 4:32 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi, my volumes are limited. Always a bad thing... I want to force bacula to do the scheduled type of backup (incr, diff, full) and nothing different. That should happen anyway, with one important exception: When there's no full backup left, Bacula will run one instead of what you scheduled. The Rerun failed levels setting can lead to multiple attempts to do backups of a higher level after a job failed, but you'd know this because you have to set this up explicitly, I think. On one client many files changed, and bacula made a fullbackup instead of a diff backup like it was scheduled. No. I mean, possibly many files changed, and possibly Bacula ran a full instead of a differental backup, but as far as I know there would not be a causal correlation between both. I now deleted the full backup and want bacula to do the diff backup even if it is nearly a full backup - how do I do this? I don't think you can do that, because I guess that there *is* no longer a previous full backup known to Bacula. There is one... Full-0001 the next backup will create a Full-0002. Hmmm... then I really don't see why Bacula would insist on doing a full backup next time... anyway, there might be failed full jobs in between. In the restore command, you will only be presented with jobs that ran ok. If the last full is considered broken, Bacula will upgrade a differential to a new full job. Defined Clients: 1: nudel-fd 2: kartoffel-fd 3: fiori-fd 4: gurke-fd 5: avocado-fd Select the Client (1-5): 5 Automatically selected FileSet: avocado-files +---+---+--+---+-++---+ | JobId | Level | JobFiles | JobBytes | StartTime | VolumeName | StartFile | +---+---+--+---+-++---+ | 385 | F | 12,895 | 1,208,383,604 | 2007-02-04 01:05:11 | Full-0001 | 0 | | 469 | D | 991 |47,422,871 | 2007-02-18 01:05:25 | Diff-0002 | 0 | | 475 | I | 763 |31,293,685 | 2007-02-19 01:05:27 | Inc-0003 | 0 | | 487 | I | 159 |32,039,843 | 2007-02-21 01:05:12 | Inc-0004 | 0 | | 493 | I | 178 |29,398,212 | 2007-02-22 01:05:25 | Inc-0005 | 0 | | 499 | I | 157 |30,879,188 | 2007-02-23 01:05:24 | Inc-0006 | 0 | | 505 | I | 153 |29,462,405 | 2007-02-24 01:05:11 | Inc-0001 | 0 | +---+---+--+---+-++---+ You have selected the following JobIds: 385,469,475,487,493,499,505 Building directory tree for JobId 385 ... + Building directory tree for JobId 469 ... Building directory tree for JobId 475 ... Building directory tree for JobId 487 ... Building directory tree for JobId 493 ... Building directory tree for JobId 499 ... Building directory tree for JobId 505 ... 7 Jobs, 12,769 files inserted into the tree and marked for extraction. Try the catalog query for the last 20 full Backups for the client. That might show you the reason. how do i do this? Use the 'query' command in a Bacula console... Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Arno Lehmann wrote: Use the 'query' command in a Bacula console... Choose a query (1-16): 3 Enter Client name: avocado-fd +---++-+--+---+-++ | JobId | Client | StartTime | JobFiles | JobBytes | VolFile | VolumeName | +---++-+--+---+-++ | 385 | avocado-fd | 2007-02-04 01:05:11 | 12,895 | 1,208,383,604 | 0 | Full-0001 | +---++-+--+---+-++ * When I now start an incr. backup: Select Job resource (1-11): 1 Run Backup job JobName: client-avocado-files Level:Incremental Client: avocado-fd FileSet: avocado-files Pool: Default (From Job resource) Storage: File (From Job resource) When: 2007-02-27 19:25:27 Priority: 10 OK to run? (yes/mod/no): yes Job queued. JobId=534 *status dir nudel-dir Version: 2.0.2 (28 January 2007) i386-portbld-freebsd6.2 freebsd 6.2-PRERELEASE Daemon started 26-Feb-07 17:33, 8 Jobs run since started. Heap: bytes=72,209 max_bytes=1,429,676 bufs=459 max_bufs=584 [...] Running Jobs: JobId Level Name Status == 534 Fullclient-avocado-files.2007-02-27_19.25.31 is waiting for Client avocado-fd to connect to Storage File [...] Full not Incr :-/ -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Oliver Lehmann wrote: [...] Running Jobs: JobId Level Name Status == 534 Fullclient-avocado-files.2007-02-27_19.25.31 is waiting for Client avocado-fd to connect to Storage File [...] Full not Incr :-/ 27-Feb 19:25 nudel-dir: No prior Full backup Job record found. 27-Feb 19:25 nudel-dir: No prior or suitable Full backup found in catalog. Doing FULL backup. 27-Feb 19:25 nudel-dir: Start Backup JobId 534, Job=client-avocado-files.2007-02-27_19.25.31 27-Feb 19:25 nudel-dir: Created new Volume Full-0002 in catalog. 27-Feb 19:25 nudel-dir: Bacula 2.0.2 (28Jan07): 27-Feb-2007 19:25:58 The question is why :-/ -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Arno Lehmann wrote:
Apart from that, you should examine the job 385 in more detail, and
compare with 534. I'm quite sure there must be a significant difference
- either the job name or the client are not identical, I think.
I don't have a running Bacula ready at the moment, but I *think* you can
use 'llist jobid=...' to get that information. Or query the catalog
directly if you prefer that.
If you don't find the reason, please post the information here, and also
add your job definitions, related to this broblem job / client.
What is important here: I changed *nothing* in bacula, I only changed *many*
files on the client. That was all. And during the nightly scheduled incremental
backup bacula started a full backup. A modification in the bacula config took
not place. All I can assume is bacula calculated the amount of files / size
from the affected files and came to the conclusion that the incremental backup
to do would be nearly like a full backup, so it changed the job by its own to
make a full backup to have the next incremental backups much more smaller. That
sounds reasonable, but I don't want that kind of consideration ;)
Ok, here the Output:
(I cancled 534 before the Full Backup really started.)
*llist jobid=385
JobId: 385
Job: client-avocado-files.2007-02-04_01.05.00
Name: client-avocado-files
PurgedFiles: 0
Type: B
Level: F
ClientId: 5
Name: avocado-fd
JobStatus: T
SchedTime: 2007-02-04 01:05:00
StartTime: 2007-02-04 01:05:11
EndTime: 2007-02-04 04:25:49
RealEndTime: 2007-02-04 04:25:49
JobTDate: 1,170,559,549
VolSessionId: 37
VolSessionTime: 1,170,003,206
JobFiles: 12,895
JobErrors: 0
JobMissingFiles: 0
PoolId: 1
PooLname: Full-Pool
PriorJobId: 0
FileSetId: 7
FileSet: avocado-files
*llist jobid=534
JobId: 534
Job: client-avocado-files.2007-02-27_19.25.31
Name: client-avocado-files
PurgedFiles: 0
Type: B
Level: F
ClientId: 5
Name: avocado-fd
JobStatus: A
SchedTime: 2007-02-27 19:25:27
StartTime: 2007-02-27 19:25:53
EndTime: 2007-02-27 19:25:58
RealEndTime: 2007-02-27 19:25:58
JobTDate: 1,172,600,758
VolSessionId: 5
VolSessionTime: 1,172,507,626
JobFiles: 0
JobErrors: 0
JobMissingFiles: 0
PoolId: 1
PooLname: Full-Pool
PriorJobId: 0
FileSetId: 8
FileSet: avocado-files
*
And here the definitions:
Job {
Name = client-avocado-files
Type = Backup
JobDefs = defaults
Client = avocado-fd
FileSet = avocado-files
Write Bootstrap = /var/db/bacula/client-avocado-files.bsr
Schedule = WeeklyCycle
}
Client {
Name = avocado-fd
Address = gurke
FDPort = 19102
Catalog = MyCatalog
Password = # password for FileDaemon
File Retention = 30 days# 30 days
Job Retention = 6 months# six months
AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired Jobs/Files
Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 20
}
FileSet {
Name = avocado-files
Include {
Options {
signature = MD5
compression = GZIP
}
File =
}
}
Schedule {
Name = WeeklyCycle
Run = Full 1st sun at 1:05
Run = Differential 2nd-5th sun at 1:05
Run = Incremental mon-sat at 1:05
}
Pool {
Name = Full-Pool
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = yes # automatically recycle Volumes
AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes
Volume Retention = 40 days
Maximum Volume Jobs = 5
Label Format = Full-
Maximum Volumes = 2
}
Pool {
Name = Inc-Pool
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = yes # automatically recycle Volumes
AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes
Volume Retention = 6 days
Maximum Volume Jobs = 5
Label Format = Inc-
Maximum Volumes = 6
}
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Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Hi, On 2/27/2007 9:17 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Arno Lehmann wrote: Apart from that, you should examine the job 385 in more detail, and compare with 534. I'm quite sure there must be a significant difference - either the job name or the client are not identical, I think. I don't have a running Bacula ready at the moment, but I *think* you can use 'llist jobid=...' to get that information. Or query the catalog directly if you prefer that. If you don't find the reason, please post the information here, and also add your job definitions, related to this broblem job / client. What is important here: I changed *nothing* in bacula, I doubt that... details below. I only changed *many* files on the client. That was all. And during the nightly scheduled incremental backup bacula started a full backup. A modification in the bacula config took not place. All I can assume is bacula calculated the amount of files / size from the affected files and came to the conclusion that the incremental backup to do would be nearly like a full backup, so it changed the job by its own to make a full backup to have the next incremental backups much more smaller. That sounds reasonable, but I don't want that kind of consideration ;) Bacula doesn't do that sort of thing... unless Kern or someone put that in without telling us... and without anyone noticing it. Ok, here the Output: (I cancled 534 before the Full Backup really started.) Ok. I'll shorten the output to the relevant details: *llist jobid=385 JobId: 385 FileSetId: 7 FileSet: avocado-files and *llist jobid=534 FileSetId: 8 FileSet: avocado-files The fileset has been changed, and, as I learned just recently, what you have in the File= clauses. Bacula keeps a hash over that in the catalog, and when it notices a change it creates a new fileset. You can override that in the fileset resource. The name will remain the same, but the ID will change. Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Oliver Lehmann schrieb: Arno Lehmann wrote: Apart from that, you should examine the job 385 in more detail, and compare with 534. I'm quite sure there must be a significant difference - either the job name or the client are not identical, I think. I don't have a running Bacula ready at the moment, but I *think* you can use 'llist jobid=...' to get that information. Or query the catalog directly if you prefer that. If you don't find the reason, please post the information here, and also add your job definitions, related to this broblem job / client. What is important here: I changed *nothing* in bacula, I only changed *many* files on the client. That was all. And during the nightly scheduled incremental backup bacula started a full backup. A modification in the bacula config took not place. All I can assume is bacula calculated the amount of files / size from the affected files and came to the conclusion that the incremental backup to do would be nearly like a full backup, so it changed the job by its own to make a full backup to have the next incremental backups much more smaller. That sounds reasonable, but I don't want that kind of consideration ;) I'm quite sure bacula will never decide to update a inc. backup to a full one because of the amount of data that has changed. The FileSet Id's of the two jobs are different. If the FileSet did change since te last backup, the inc. will be promoted to a full one. *llist jobid=385 JobId: 385 [...] PriorJobId: 0 FileSetId: 7 FileSet: avocado-files *llist jobid=534 JobId: 534 [...] PriorJobId: 0 FileSetId: 8 FileSet: avocado-files Ralf - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 21:40, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 2/27/2007 9:17 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Arno Lehmann wrote: Apart from that, you should examine the job 385 in more detail, and compare with 534. I'm quite sure there must be a significant difference - either the job name or the client are not identical, I think. I don't have a running Bacula ready at the moment, but I *think* you can use 'llist jobid=...' to get that information. Or query the catalog directly if you prefer that. If you don't find the reason, please post the information here, and also add your job definitions, related to this broblem job / client. What is important here: I changed *nothing* in bacula, I doubt that... details below. I only changed *many* files on the client. That was all. And during the nightly scheduled incremental backup bacula started a full backup. A modification in the bacula config took not place. All I can assume is bacula calculated the amount of files / size from the affected files and came to the conclusion that the incremental backup to do would be nearly like a full backup, so it changed the job by its own to make a full backup to have the next incremental backups much more smaller. That sounds reasonable, but I don't want that kind of consideration ;) Bacula doesn't do that sort of thing... unless Kern or someone put that in without telling us... and without anyone noticing it. You are absolutely right, Bacula doesn't do that, and no, I haven't put such a thing in, though perhaps it isn't such a bad idea ... :-) Ok, here the Output: (I cancled 534 before the Full Backup really started.) Ok. I'll shorten the output to the relevant details: *llist jobid=385 JobId: 385 FileSetId: 7 FileSet: avocado-files and *llist jobid=534 FileSetId: 8 FileSet: avocado-files The fileset has been changed, and, as I learned just recently, what you have in the File= clauses. Bacula keeps a hash over that in the catalog, and when it notices a change it creates a new fileset. You can override that in the fileset resource. The name will remain the same, but the ID will change. Arno - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Hi, On 2/26/2007 4:32 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi, my volumes are limited. Always a bad thing... I want to force bacula to do the scheduled type of backup (incr, diff, full) and nothing different. That should happen anyway, with one important exception: When there's no full backup left, Bacula will run one instead of what you scheduled. The Rerun failed levels setting can lead to multiple attempts to do backups of a higher level after a job failed, but you'd know this because you have to set this up explicitly, I think. On one client many files changed, and bacula made a fullbackup instead of a diff backup like it was scheduled. No. I mean, possibly many files changed, and possibly Bacula ran a full instead of a differental backup, but as far as I know there would not be a causal correlation between both. I now deleted the full backup and want bacula to do the diff backup even if it is nearly a full backup - how do I do this? I don't think you can do that, because I guess that there *is* no longer a previous full backup known to Bacula. Perhaps the volumes it was on are automatically purged, or you manually purged or deleted the job when you actually tried to do something different. Or the last full backup failed, which would be the best thing for you - in this case (and make sure there is a good full backup left - you could delete the failed job from the catalogue. (When doing that, use the 'delete jobid=...' syntax, amke sure you have a catalog backup, make sure you understand what that command does, and don't blame me for anything :-) Try the catalog query for the last 20 full Backups for the client. That might show you the reason. Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] force bacula to do a specific type of backup
Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 2/26/2007 4:32 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi, my volumes are limited. Always a bad thing... I want to force bacula to do the scheduled type of backup (incr, diff, full) and nothing different. That should happen anyway, with one important exception: When there's no full backup left, Bacula will run one instead of what you scheduled. The Rerun failed levels setting can lead to multiple attempts to do backups of a higher level after a job failed, but you'd know this because you have to set this up explicitly, I think. On one client many files changed, and bacula made a fullbackup instead of a diff backup like it was scheduled. No. I mean, possibly many files changed, and possibly Bacula ran a full instead of a differental backup, but as far as I know there would not be a causal correlation between both. I now deleted the full backup and want bacula to do the diff backup even if it is nearly a full backup - how do I do this? I don't think you can do that, because I guess that there *is* no longer a previous full backup known to Bacula. There is one... Full-0001 the next backup will create a Full-0002. Defined Clients: 1: nudel-fd 2: kartoffel-fd 3: fiori-fd 4: gurke-fd 5: avocado-fd Select the Client (1-5): 5 Automatically selected FileSet: avocado-files +---+---+--+---+-++---+ | JobId | Level | JobFiles | JobBytes | StartTime | VolumeName | StartFile | +---+---+--+---+-++---+ | 385 | F | 12,895 | 1,208,383,604 | 2007-02-04 01:05:11 | Full-0001 | 0 | | 469 | D | 991 |47,422,871 | 2007-02-18 01:05:25 | Diff-0002 | 0 | | 475 | I | 763 |31,293,685 | 2007-02-19 01:05:27 | Inc-0003 | 0 | | 487 | I | 159 |32,039,843 | 2007-02-21 01:05:12 | Inc-0004 | 0 | | 493 | I | 178 |29,398,212 | 2007-02-22 01:05:25 | Inc-0005 | 0 | | 499 | I | 157 |30,879,188 | 2007-02-23 01:05:24 | Inc-0006 | 0 | | 505 | I | 153 |29,462,405 | 2007-02-24 01:05:11 | Inc-0001 | 0 | +---+---+--+---+-++---+ You have selected the following JobIds: 385,469,475,487,493,499,505 Building directory tree for JobId 385 ... + Building directory tree for JobId 469 ... Building directory tree for JobId 475 ... Building directory tree for JobId 487 ... Building directory tree for JobId 493 ... Building directory tree for JobId 499 ... Building directory tree for JobId 505 ... 7 Jobs, 12,769 files inserted into the tree and marked for extraction. Try the catalog query for the last 20 full Backups for the client. That might show you the reason. how do i do this? -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
