Re: Is it okay? . . . .
Dean Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is "One" the name of a character in this book? Good question. In a word no, but a word doesn't suffice. So . . . . I had to invent a pronoun usage for a creature that is made up of two entities in close union. "I", "You", "He", "She", "We and Us" didn't work. Collectively they are "The Ahnal" Ahnal being the name they share. The male and the female have separate names, but not separate identities, in a way. The race is the only non-human race in full partnership in the Alliance. Other races not being so technologically advanced on first contact. Sophont species, however, are very rare. "One" as a pronoun was set up
earlier in the book, but far enough before that quote that it wouldn't make sense to go back that far. Speculative fiction seems to need speculation. They have the ability to create chords in speech and speak in a kind of musical glyph that cannot be imitated by a human being's larynx, though with great study a person might learn to understand some of the language as it is spoken. It's necessary to use an electronic device as a translator. I am sorry for the long-winded explanation.
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
Is "One" the name of a character in this book?
- Original Message -
From:
Scott
Saylors
To: Baha'i
Studies
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:12
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Subject: Re: Is it okay? . . . .
I thought it might help to actually quote from the text of the
book:
"
“. . .Such agony and
destruction puzzles One. One cannot understand why one segment of your society
should wish to impose its will on the rest of your people, by manipulating
them with violence and terror. A people subjugated will never be a Unity. So
say the Prophets of One’s people, so say the Prophets of humanity as well. One
expects the people of a place and time to strive to deal honestly with one
another, being frank and above board about needs and desires so the people can
find a path which harms none and welcomes all.”
A teacher from the mosque
said, “But Muhammad, praise be upon Him, says if it had been God’s intent to
make us all one people, He would have done so. Is a consensus of the people
sufficient to do right?”
“One’s prophets say, One’s
people were made divided in intent and desire so that One’s people would
strive to achieve Unity, and win a place with the Creator in the next
existence.” The Ahnal turned to Malcolm, “What is it your Prophet said about
the unity of men?”
Malcolm knew this one by
heart. “He said: `Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust?
That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your
hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same
substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul. .
.’”.
“Yes, Captain Cristobal, that
is what One recalled.” He turned to the Mullah and said, “One believes that
your Prophet, Who should be praised, also said much the same. One is a humble
student of the religion of both species, since One believes that there was but
a single Creator.”
The Mullah nodded his head
thoughtfully; “It would please me greatly if you might visit my Mosque,
honored Pa’oli Anahl. It seems that in an age where we can reach out our
hands, and embrace more and more of Allah’s Creation we see more and more how
we all are His creatures, whatever our form might
be.”
The Pa’oli’s music was rich and grand. “Yes,
One will certainly do so, if the demands of the service
allow.”
(The
Pa'oli are a species which only becomes truly sapient when bonded in mated
pairs.)
Tim Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Scott,
> to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with
some references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away within the
story, <
Since it contains quotes and references about the Faith, did you
have to get
approval from the Baha'i review committee where you live? I
am interested because I also would like to write, so I want to understand
the rules. Rob Stockman has written something about this, for the
U.S., but I don't have his notes.
Tim
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
I thought it might help to actually quote from the text of the book: " . . .Such agony and destruction puzzles One. One cannot understand why one segment of your society should wish to impose its will on the rest of your people, by manipulating them with violence and terror. A people subjugated will never be a Unity. So say the Prophets of Ones people, so say the Prophets of humanity as well. One expects the people of a place and time to strive to deal honestly with one another, being frank and above board about needs and desires so the people can find a path which harms none and welcomes all. A teacher from the mosque said, But Muhammad, praise be upon Him, says if it had been Gods intent to make us all one people, He would have done so. Is a consensus of the people sufficient to do right? Ones prophets say, Ones people were made divided in intent and desire so that Ones people would strive to achieve Unity, and win a place with the Creator in the next existence. The Ahnal turned to Malcolm, What is it your Prophet said about the unity of men? Malcolm knew this one by heart. He said:
`Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul. . .. Yes, Captain Cristobal, that is what One recalled. He turned to the Mullah and said, One believes that your Prophet, Who should be praised, also said much the same. One is a humble student of the religion of both species, since One believes that there was but a single Creator. The Mullah nodded his head
thoughtfully; It would please me greatly if you might visit my Mosque, honored Paoli Anahl. It seems that in an age where we can reach out our hands, and embrace more and more of Allahs Creation we see more and more how we all are His creatures, whatever our form might be. The Paolis music was rich and grand. Yes, One will certainly do so, if the demands of the service allow. (The Pa'oli are a species which only becomes truly sapient when bonded in mated pairs.) Tim Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello Scott, > to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with some references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away within the story, < Since it contains quotes and references about the Faith, did you have to get approval from the Baha'i review committee where you live? I am interested because I also would like to write, so I want to understand the rules. Rob Stockman has written
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The quote is unattributed and the word "Baha`i" is only used in reference to individuals. The main character never discloses his religion, and I say nothing that might be construed as an offical stance. An alien asks the main character "What is it that your Persian Prophets said of this?" And a brief quote from the Hidden Words is the response.Tim Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hello Scott, > to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with some references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away within the story, < Since it contains quotes and references about the Faith, did you have to get approval from the
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
No, it will be a trade back (6X9 soft cover). I haven't sold e-book rights as yet. Scott[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this is an ebook? - Original Message -From: Scott Saylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:12 pmSubject: Re: Is it okay? . . . .To: Baha'i Studies > Okay, I'll bite the bullet. If it turns out it's not okay, just > delete the message, Susan.> > The title is Sword of the Dajjal, you can find the pre-sale > announcement at:> http://www.capripublishing.net/ click on books, click on Sci-Fi > and scroll down.> > It is science fiction set 600 years in the future. The > assumption is that even if technology allowed all the folks with a >
grudge to leave for parts unknown, you never out run a problem you > haven't solved.> > From Wikpedia: '> al-Dajjal (Arabic: > الدّجّال, al-> dajjāl) ("The Deceiver/impostor/quack"[1]) is an evil figure > in Islamic eschatology, who will appear before Yawm al-Qiyamah. He > is similar to the Antichrist in Christianity> "Dajjal" in itself is a commonly use Arabic word, "Dajjals" > could refer to "False prophets". "Al-Dajjal" on the other hand > translates to "The Impostor", refering to a specific end-of time > deceiver. It is worthy to note that the term Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal > (Arabic for "The False Messiah") is a literal translation of the > Syriac term "Meshiha Deghala", which had been in the common > vocabulary of the Middle East for more than 400 years prior to the > Quran via the Peshitta (which uses that term
instead of the Greek > "antichristos").[1] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Well, even if it's _not_ okay, the least you could do now that > you've > tantalized some of us is to tell us the name of the book! ;-)> > --Sekhmet> > In a message dated 10/10/06 8:30:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes:> >. . . to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with > some>references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away > within the story,> >on this list? The book comes out in February and is available for > pre-order> >at the moment.> >> > > >> > Regards,> >> > Scott> >> >> > > > > The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments > thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
So this is an ebook?
- Original Message -
From: Scott Saylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Is it okay? . . . .
To: Baha'i Studies
> Okay, I'll bite the bullet. If it turns out it's not okay, just
> delete the message, Susan.
>
> The title is Sword of the Dajjal, you can find the pre-sale
> announcement at:
> http://www.capripublishing.net/ click on books, click on Sci-Fi
> and scroll down.
>
> It is science fiction set 600 years in the future. The
> assumption is that even if technology allowed all the folks with a
> grudge to leave for parts unknown, you never out run a problem you
> haven't solved.
>
> From Wikpedia: '
> al-Dajjal (Arabic:
> الدّجّال, al-
> dajjāl) ("The Deceiver/impostor/quack"[1]) is an evil figure
> in Islamic eschatology, who will appear before Yawm al-Qiyamah. He
> is similar to the Antichrist in Christianity
> "Dajjal" in itself is a commonly use Arabic word, "Dajjals"
> could refer to "False prophets". "Al-Dajjal" on the other hand
> translates to "The Impostor", refering to a specific end-of time
> deceiver. It is worthy to note that the term Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal
> (Arabic for "The False Messiah") is a literal translation of the
> Syriac term "Meshiha Deghala", which had been in the common
> vocabulary of the Middle East for more than 400 years prior to the
> Quran via the Peshitta (which uses that term instead of the Greek
> "antichristos").[1]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, even if it's _not_ okay, the least you could do now that
> you've
> tantalized some of us is to tell us the name of the book! ;-)
>
> --Sekhmet
>
> In a message dated 10/10/06 8:30:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> >. . . to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with
> some>references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away
> within the story,
> >on this list? The book comes out in February and is available for
> pre-order
> >at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
Okay, I'll bite the bullet. If it turns out it's not okay, just delete the message, Susan. The title is Sword of the Dajjal, you can find the pre-sale announcement at: http://www.capripublishing.net/ click on books, click on Sci-Fi and scroll down. It is science fiction set 600 years in the future. The assumption is that even if technology allowed all the folks with a grudge to leave for parts unknown, you never out run a problem you haven't solved. From Wikpedia: ' al-Dajjal (Arabic: الدّجّال, al-dajjāl) ("The Deceiver/impostor/quack"[1]) is an evil figure in Islamic eschatology, who will appear before Yawm al-Qiyamah. He is similar to the Antichrist in Christianity "Dajjal" in itself is a commonly use Arabic word, "Dajjals" could refer to "False prophets". "Al-Dajjal" on the other hand translates to "The Impostor", refering to a specific end-of time deceiver. It is worthy to note that the term Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal (Arabic for "The False Messiah") is a literal translation of the Syriac term "Meshiha Deghala", which had been in the common vocabulary of the Middle East for
more than 400 years prior to the Quran via the Peshitta (which uses that term instead of the Greek "antichristos").[1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, even if it's _not_ okay, the least you could do now that you've tantalized some of us is to tell us the name of the book! ;-)--SekhmetIn a message dated 10/10/06 8:30:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>. . . to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with some>references and quotes from the Baha`i faith tucked away within the story,>on this list? The book comes out in February and is available for pre-order>at the moment.>>
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
Congratulations, Scott. Tell us about your book.
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Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:30 am
Subject: Is it okay? . . . .
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> . . . to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with
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> As human beings, we are endowed with freedom of choice, and we
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> Arnold J. Toynbee
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Re: Is it okay? . . . .
Well, even if it's _not_ okay, the least you could do now that you've
tantalized some of us is to tell us the name of the book! ;-)
--Sekhmet
In a message dated 10/10/06 8:30:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>. . . to announce the publication of a novel I have written, with some
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>at the moment.
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Is it okay? . . . .
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