Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM, (श्री) Sreekanth B wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Baiju M wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA wrote: >> >> > 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for >> > local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? >> >> +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. > > In short the event can move to different city every year ! We can discuss about the next city on 3rd day of PyCon India 2009 :) Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Baiju M wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA wrote: > > > 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for > > local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? > > +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. In short the event can move to different city every year ! - sree -- http://picasaweb.google.com/gnuyoga All things come through desire and every sincere prayer is answered ! ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Ramdas S wrote: > You can start by announcing it in > > 1) All User Groups -- like django, TG, Pylons, etc. There are a few hundred > user groups.. It is viral. > [..] > All the above steps will give you 99% of the target audience. > > I think all these activities will cost absolutely nothing expect some > efforts from your home/office in your spare time. > These are excellent Ramdas. I will put them up on the wiki. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:28, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > [..] > > 0. Should'nt this page include the proposed dates (September 4,5,6 > (Baiju M)) or is that still under discussion ? Makes sense. I will add that as well. > 1. The Aims listed on the Draft page are huge in terms of scope and > would take more than one conference to achieve. Best aim for the stars. In any case, I wanted to start us off. I'm not really clear on what a 'proposal' should contain as of now. We should trim down the aims though. > 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for > local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? I'm not sure if any of the other python groups in India are planning a conference, if so, I think we should talk with them to decide the venue. If not, we can (atleast this year) hold it in BAngalore somewhere. > The "ProposalForPyConIndia" wiki page has a community discussion > section with varying opinions. Before editing I wanted to clarify the > following: > > 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf > being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki > page. Has that changed? I think it should not become a "Newbies only" thing. People who have been hacking python for a long time should have good reason to come as well as the newbie. > 1. Please clarify/define "dedicated conference". (As in, is the pyconf > open to people like me who "dont code for a living" and yet grok > technical concepts?) *Dedicated* meaning that we're not planing to be part of a larger event like foss.in. *Conference* meaning that we have a structure and some formality as opposed to barcamp. > +1 for the low budget, sans swag concept but some clarity on what is > the scope of the event, since its being held here for the first time, > would be a lot nicer. The conf planning page was a nice read :) so > how about a "volunteers" page ? Youre' right. We should try to keep the costs low. I however don't want to miss anything which we want and hence went for a rather over the board proposal (as you've noted). Let's work on trimming it down. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA wrote: > 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for > local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. > 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf > being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki > page. Has that changed? > 1. Please clarify/define "dedicated conference". (As in, is the pyconf > open to people like me who "dont code for a living" and yet grok > technical concepts?) The PyCon (US) used to accept everyone, including newbies; sometimes non-coders also coming as speakers. They have tutorials targeting non-hard-core programmers. Remember, Python is a language which can be learned within one month (or one week ? ;) Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:28, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing >> > > the proposal and talking to companies. i would help with the above (and the local media) but wanted to discuss some things on thelist instead of editing the wiki and annoying folks. > Good ideas. I have a page at > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. 0. Should'nt this page include the proposed dates (September 4,5,6 (Baiju M)) or is that still under discussion ? 1. The Aims listed on the Draft page are huge in terms of scope and would take more than one conference to achieve. 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? The "ProposalForPyConIndia" wiki page has a community discussion section with varying opinions. Before editing I wanted to clarify the following: 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki page. Has that changed? 1. Please clarify/define "dedicated conference". (As in, is the pyconf open to people like me who "dont code for a living" and yet grok technical concepts?) +1 for the low budget, sans swag concept but some clarity on what is the scope of the event, since its being held here for the first time, would be a lot nicer. The conf planning page was a nice read :) so how about a "volunteers" page ? -- || Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
You can start by announcing it in 1) All User Groups -- like django, TG, Pylons, etc. There are a few hundred user groups.. It is viral. 2) Bloggers can start blogging about it. 3) We can have a few magazines as Media sponsors. We can get the ads bartered. 4) Target LUGs. There are lots of Python fans there. 5) Get a few high profile bloggers in India and abroad to write about it. Personal requests will help. 6) Its extremely important to get the big cos which has some interest in Python involved. say Google. They can help evangelizing the conference. 7) If we are officially Pycon India, then don't worry, there will be automatic links out of most Python related sites. You can bet that anyone who's interested in Python will be visiting one such places in the next 5-6 months. All the above steps will give you 99% of the target audience. I think all these activities will cost absolutely nothing expect some efforts from your home/office in your spare time. Ramdas On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Sibtey Mehdi wrote: > How do you promote the pyCon-India? I think the people who are working in > Bangalore or subscribed to the bangpypers know about this but what about the > others python programmers working in different locations in India. > > > > Sibtey Mehdi > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing > > > the proposal and talking to companies. > > > > I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can > > participate easily. > > and commit early and commit often > > > Good ideas. I have a page at > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. > Please take a look. > > > -- > ~noufal > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
How do you promote the pyCon-India? I think the people who are working in Bangalore or subscribed to the bangpypers know about this but what about the others python programmers working in different locations in India. Sibtey Mehdi > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing > > the proposal and talking to companies. > > I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can > participate easily. and commit early and commit often Good ideas. I have a page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. Please take a look. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 27 February 2009 20:00:18 Baiju M wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing > > > the proposal and talking to companies. > > > > I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can > > participate easily. > > and commit early and commit often Good ideas. I have a page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. Please take a look. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On a related note : http://jjinux.blogspot.com/search?q=netbeans -V- http://twitter.com/venkat83 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
Vimal Menon wrote: Yes exactly , why use pycon? lets name it something innovative and attractive which sounds less formal and more friendly python.in :D -- With Regards, Parthan SR "technofreak" GPG Key 2FF01026 Fingerprint 5707 ECBD 8D8D 8E6E 28F8 DFA5 938B D861 2FF0 1026 Weblog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Friday 27 February 2009 20:09:33 Vimal Menon wrote: > Yes exactly , why use pycon? lets name it something innovative and > attractive which sounds less formal and more friendly .. a name which > quickly came to my mind is IndiePy .. haha. Lets start something innovative > :) .. people will visit pycon for what pycon is and our conference (say X ) > for what X is. -100 -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
Yes exactly , why use pycon? lets name it something innovative and attractive which sounds less formal and more friendly .. a name which quickly came to my mind is IndiePy .. haha. Lets start something innovative :) .. people will visit pycon for what pycon is and our conference (say X ) for what X is. Regards, Vimal From: Ramdas S To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:34:02 PM Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Open source India Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp is barcamp, not pycamp, period. No I am just updating the back references for benefit of new members. I agree that a conference should be a conference. This years Pycon is a nine day event with tutorials and development sprints. I am OK even with a 2 day event, since its the first time around, with a third day for options such as sprints, BOFs or tutorials Ramdas Anand, Can you find out whether there are any obligations we may have for using Pycon name? > Ramdas > > I > -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Friday 27 February 2009 20:00:18 Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing > > the proposal and talking to companies. > > I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can > participate easily. and commit early and commit often -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
Hi Noufal, On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the > proposal and talking to companies. I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can participate easily. Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
+1 pycon but make sure its not an alias of barcamp! -R On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > +1 for a 'dedicated' PyCon. > -1 for along with BarCamp. > > -V- > http://twitter.com/venkat83 > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- I blog at http://ranganaths.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
+1 for a 'dedicated' PyCon. -1 for along with BarCamp. -V- http://twitter.com/venkat83 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > [..] > > > I think if this has to work, a group has to produce something like > a formal proposal on what the conference is about. A writeup on > the goals and agenda of the proposed conference is essential > for approaching sponsors. > > I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > Good! > > Let's keep the momentum going > > I propose that we have a meeting soon to discuss this. Updated this with a "Community Discussion" section. Please enter individual comments there, so that we don't modify the main body. Later on we can integrate to the main proposal if required. I think if this has to work, a group has to produce something like a formal proposal on what the conference is about. A writeup on the goals and agenda of the proposed conference is essential for approaching sponsors. > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
Good! Let's keep the momentum going I propose that we have a meeting soon to discuss this. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Banibrata Dutta > wrote: > > > > > Obviously, it'd be pointless to call a track in Barcamp -- PyCon or > PyCamp. > > Why not use the Barcamp track just for kicking up some dust about PyCamp > and > > PyCon ? Unless one is strongly allergic to Barcamp in general, the show > of > > hands in such a track, could be a good measure of what participation one > may > > expect (from Bangalore) in PyCon-India, when it happens. > > Nope. Perhaps my statement was confusing. I am in no way > allergic to barcamp. I think it is a great concept and it works very > well too. What I was suggesting was that we should not be bringing > up barcamp everytime one suggests PyCon India. We can definitely > discuss Python in barcamp and have a BoF to even discuss > PyCon India ideas at Barcamp. > > My point is that whenever a PyCon India happens, it has to > be physically a different entity from Barcamp. PyCon India > should have its own identity, so to speak. Absolutely. No doubts, questions or contentions about that. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Banibrata Dutta wrote: > > Obviously, it'd be pointless to call a track in Barcamp -- PyCon or PyCamp. > Why not use the Barcamp track just for kicking up some dust about PyCamp and > PyCon ? Unless one is strongly allergic to Barcamp in general, the show of > hands in such a track, could be a good measure of what participation one may > expect (from Bangalore) in PyCon-India, when it happens. Nope. Perhaps my statement was confusing. I am in no way allergic to barcamp. I think it is a great concept and it works very well too. What I was suggesting was that we should not be bringing up barcamp everytime one suggests PyCon India. We can definitely discuss Python in barcamp and have a BoF to even discuss PyCon India ideas at Barcamp. My point is that whenever a PyCon India happens, it has to be physically a different entity from Barcamp. PyCon India should have its own identity, so to speak. > >> >> > Ramdas >> > >> > I >> > >> >> >> -- >> -Anand >> ___ >> BangPypers mailing list >> BangPypers@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > -- > regards, > Banibrata > http://www.linkedin.com/in/bdutta > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] pycon India [was] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> btw, it is premature to start a fresh mailing list or an organising >> committee at this >> stage. Lets keep it on this list - after all there isnt such a huge amount of >> traffic to be disrupted here. I agree. -1 for separate mailing list. I have come to believe this process of natural evolution :-) So along those lines, if we keep having the BangPypers meeting every month for next couple of months, then we naturally are going to have a PyCon India meetup. What do you think? And btw, it would be good if [pypers for pypers in states_of_india] also come forward and pitch with their ideas and contributions as we evolve. Thanks, Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] pycon India [was] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > btw, it is premature to start a fresh mailing list or an organising committee > at this > stage. Lets keep it on this list - after all there isnt such a huge amount of > traffic to be disrupted here. +1 -- Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] pycon India [was] Open source India
On Friday 27 February 2009 17:19:26 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference > > within their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to > > hook up > > Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies > and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon > India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. > > Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp > is barcamp, not pycamp, period. ok. So we expect professionalism here. Which means that delegates would be motivated enough to pay for their travel and accommodation, and also pay a registration fee. Generally in India there is a class of person who only comes if travel, accommodation are looked after and if attendance is free. People should be able to find their own sponsors if they cannot afford it. Secondly, foreign conferences are usually planned at least a year in advance. Whereas we do things 2 months in advance. Here, given it is the first one and that it will not be very ambitious, I think 6 months is ok. Through NRC-FOSS I have a fair amount of organisational resources at my command, But we are Chennai/Ooty based and hence need some one local also. If we can agree on these basics, we can go to the next stage. btw, it is premature to start a fresh mailing list or an organising committee at this stage. Lets keep it on this list - after all there isnt such a huge amount of traffic to be disrupted here. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
+1 for the PyCon India. A 3 day event. I think its high time! If not a Conference or a Track within barcamp, which is next weekend (March 7 and 8) at Yahoo EGL campus, I think we could do with a few more technical sessions of Python. The event this time around is a technology focussed event and many sessions are regisetered even related to python, web frameworks, django etc. I think some people of this list register sessions on things like Py3k porting, Py internals, for instance. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > > >> >> Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies >> and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon >> India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. >> >> Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp >> is barcamp, not pycamp, period. >> > > No I am just updating the back references for benefit of new members. > > I agree that a conference should be a conference. > > This years Pycon is a nine day event with tutorials and development > sprints. > > I am OK even with a 2 day event, since its the first time around, with a > third day for options such as sprints, BOFs or tutorials > > Ramdas > > Anand, > > Can you find out whether there are any obligations we may have for using > Pycon name? > > >> > Ramdas >> > >> > I >> > >> >> >> -- >> -Anand >> ___ >> BangPypers mailing list >> BangPypers@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >> > > > > -- > Ramdas S > +91 9342 583 065 > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Regards, Lakshman becomingguru.com lakshmanprasad.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > > Last time when we tried which was 2 years back, we actually had three to > > four sponsors willing to cough up something like 10-20 K each which was > > pretty good to organize a single day event. > > > > If I remember to do an event in Bangalore at St Joseph College > Auditorium, > > our budget was around 40-50 K which included a CD and T Shirt each for > > approx 200 participants. > > > > We even planned to charge a delegate fee of Rs 99/ which would have > covered > > lunch and refreshments, plus housekeeping charges. > > > > Things fizzled out since few were willing to volunteer beyond a point. > What > > we require is some legs (young and old) to run around. > > > > Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference > within > > their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to hook > up > > > > Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies > and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon > India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. > > Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp > is barcamp, not pycamp, period. > Obviously, it'd be pointless to call a track in Barcamp -- PyCon or PyCamp. Why not use the Barcamp track just for kicking up some dust about PyCamp and PyCon ? Unless one is strongly allergic to Barcamp in general, the show of hands in such a track, could be a good measure of what participation one may expect (from Bangalore) in PyCon-India, when it happens. > > > Ramdas > > > > I > > > > > -- > -Anand > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- regards, Banibrata http://www.linkedin.com/in/bdutta ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > Can you find out whether there are any obligations we may have for using > Pycon name? In fact, Python Community encourage it, see: http://www.pycon.org/ Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
Hi Folks I have put up a small wiki page for a PyCon India. http://wiki.python.org/moin/ProposalForPyConIndia . Please feel free to share your ideas on the wiki. though we can thoroughly discuss the possibility of the conference dates, agenda, etc in this mailling list or have meetings on the #BangPypers on irc.freenode.org . I'll write a mail to David Goodger of PSF expressing the idea for an Indian edition of the conference. and for using the PyCon title for the Indian version of it. Hopefully we can pull of an event this year or early next year. regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > > Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference > within their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to > hook up > I was just about to suggest holding a Python-track within BCB8, when I saw this post. BCB8 is happening in Yahoo premisis... and the "unconference" atmosphere rocks, unless one is a big-fan of the IEEE and ACM style "bow-tie & tuxedo" conferences (ps> I know that IEEE and ACM conferences are not "bow-tie & tuxedo" type, just to make a point about the "open", "unstructured", "flexible" style of information exchange). This could very well be run as BoF, and people get to enjoy the other BCB tracks like "dating", "rubicks cube", "martial arts" etc. :-) -- regards, Banibrata http://www.linkedin.com/in/bdutta ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
> > > Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies > and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon > India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. > > Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp > is barcamp, not pycamp, period. > No I am just updating the back references for benefit of new members. I agree that a conference should be a conference. This years Pycon is a nine day event with tutorials and development sprints. I am OK even with a 2 day event, since its the first time around, with a third day for options such as sprints, BOFs or tutorials Ramdas Anand, Can you find out whether there are any obligations we may have for using Pycon name? > > Ramdas > > > > I > > > > > -- > -Anand > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Ramdas S wrote: >> Last time when we tried which was 2 years back, we actually had three to >> four sponsors willing to cough up something like 10-20 K each which was >> pretty good to organize a single day event. >> >> If I remember to do an event in Bangalore at St Joseph College Auditorium, >> our budget was around 40-50 K which included a CD and T Shirt each for >> approx 200 participants. >> >> We even planned to charge a delegate fee of Rs 99/ which would have covered >> lunch and refreshments, plus housekeeping charges. >> >> Things fizzled out since few were willing to volunteer beyond a point. What >> we require is some legs (young and old) to run around. >> >> Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference within >> their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to hook up >> > > Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies > and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon > India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. > > Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp > is barcamp, not pycamp, period. +1. PyCon India should be just what it is and not be piggybacking (If I may use that term?) on Barcamp. Bets, Amit > >> Ramdas >> >> I >> > > > -- > -Anand > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
Hi, On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > Last time when we tried which was 2 years back, we actually had three to > four sponsors willing to cough up something like 10-20 K each which was > pretty good to organize a single day event. > > If I remember to do an event in Bangalore at St Joseph College Auditorium, > our budget was around 40-50 K which included a CD and T Shirt each for > approx 200 participants. > > We even planned to charge a delegate fee of Rs 99/ which would have covered > lunch and refreshments, plus housekeeping charges. > > Things fizzled out since few were willing to volunteer beyond a point. What > we require is some legs (young and old) to run around. > > Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference within > their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to hook up > Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp is barcamp, not pycamp, period. > Ramdas > > I > -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 27 February 2009 16:51:36 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: >> I think, if we can get a discussion going around this topic, >> we can form ideas concrete enough to organize >> PyCon India at least in 2010. > > ok september in Bangalore will give us enough time to plan - lets fix a date > (maybe 3 days) and go ahead. You mean plan for a Sep 09 conference, or Sep 10 ? And shouldn't we form the mandatory top-level conference committee of supreme overlords who will have absolute oversight on everything ? Btw, we would also need a BDFL also, where "B" stands for "Benevolent" not "Benefactor", as it seems to do in some cases. Kenneth, why don't you take the lead here :) Ok, I guess I had enough fun... I really think we should form a plan for this. As a first step I suggest forming a mailing list to discuss only this topic and get Jeff Rush into the conspiracy. I would request Jeff to create a Pycon India discussion mailing list on Python.org if it sounds good to others. > -- > regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > Associate > NRC-FOSS > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > Regards, -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
Last time when we tried which was 2 years back, we actually had three to four sponsors willing to cough up something like 10-20 K each which was pretty good to organize a single day event. If I remember to do an event in Bangalore at St Joseph College Auditorium, our budget was around 40-50 K which included a CD and T Shirt each for approx 200 participants. We even planned to charge a delegate fee of Rs 99/ which would have covered lunch and refreshments, plus housekeeping charges. Things fizzled out since few were willing to volunteer beyond a point. What we require is some legs (young and old) to run around. Btw the Barcamp guys had offered to actually host a Python conference within their unconference. So that could also be a start. Someone need to hook up Ramdas I On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy > wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays > >>> are for suits. So where am I placed ? > >> > >> +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, > >> community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System > >> Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. > >> Sometime later this year. I personally would not prefer fsck.in. Not > >> everone is a developer :P but with python you can become one in a few > >> hours. I still believe there is lot we can do in order to spread > >> python . Over past few years I have seen Ruby. Rails as a framework > >> picking up only with the hype around the technologies. > > > > +1 for this (for long time, it must be now carrying interest). > > We have mooted this idea here and even tried to pull one > > but I guess the planning was not good. > > > > I think a conference where everything down from concept, > > planning, motives and finances were open and not > > controlled by a secret cabal is what we want. It should > > be for developers, but for anyone who has even written > > only one line of code in Python. Still, it should not be > > too generic so that it becomes an unconference. > > > > Also, we will accept all fruits and vegetables, > > including high and low hanging, not just people making > > omlettes ;) > > Lol. > > > > > > I think, if we can get a discussion going around this topic, > > we can form ideas concrete enough to organize > > PyCon India at least in 2010. > > +1 > > -Amit > > > >> > >> > >> regards > >> -- > >> Ramakrishna Reddy GPG > >> Key ID:31FF0090 > >> Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 > >> ___ > >> BangPypers mailing list > >> BangPypers@python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > >> > > > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > -Anand > > ___ > > BangPypers mailing list > > BangPypers@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > > > -- > Amit Kumar Saha > http://amitksaha.blogspot.com > http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ > *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in > > "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" > --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > >> I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays >> are for suits. So where am I placed ? > > +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, > community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System > Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. +1 for PyCon India idea. As Kenneth suggested 3 days would be fine. I am suggesting September 4,5 & 6 (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Friday 27 February 2009 16:51:36 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > I think, if we can get a discussion going around this topic, > we can form ideas concrete enough to organize > PyCon India at least in 2010. ok september in Bangalore will give us enough time to plan - lets fix a date (maybe 3 days) and go ahead. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai >> wrote: >> >>> I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays >>> are for suits. So where am I placed ? >> >> +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, >> community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System >> Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. >> Sometime later this year. I personally would not prefer fsck.in. Not >> everone is a developer :P but with python you can become one in a few >> hours. I still believe there is lot we can do in order to spread >> python . Over past few years I have seen Ruby. Rails as a framework >> picking up only with the hype around the technologies. > > +1 for this (for long time, it must be now carrying interest). > We have mooted this idea here and even tried to pull one > but I guess the planning was not good. > > I think a conference where everything down from concept, > planning, motives and finances were open and not > controlled by a secret cabal is what we want. It should > be for developers, but for anyone who has even written > only one line of code in Python. Still, it should not be > too generic so that it becomes an unconference. > > Also, we will accept all fruits and vegetables, > including high and low hanging, not just people making > omlettes ;) Lol. > > I think, if we can get a discussion going around this topic, > we can form ideas concrete enough to organize > PyCon India at least in 2010. +1 -Amit > >> >> >> regards >> -- >> Ramakrishna Reddy GPG >> Key ID:31FF0090 >> Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 >> ___ >> BangPypers mailing list >> BangPypers@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >> > > > Regards, > > -- > -Anand > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > >> I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays >> are for suits. So where am I placed ? > > +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, > community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System > Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. > Sometime later this year. I personally would not prefer fsck.in. Not > everone is a developer :P but with python you can become one in a few > hours. I still believe there is lot we can do in order to spread > python . Over past few years I have seen Ruby. Rails as a framework > picking up only with the hype around the technologies. +1 for this (for long time, it must be now carrying interest). We have mooted this idea here and even tried to pull one but I guess the planning was not good. I think a conference where everything down from concept, planning, motives and finances were open and not controlled by a secret cabal is what we want. It should be for developers, but for anyone who has even written only one line of code in Python. Still, it should not be too generic so that it becomes an unconference. Also, we will accept all fruits and vegetables, including high and low hanging, not just people making omlettes ;) I think, if we can get a discussion going around this topic, we can form ideas concrete enough to organize PyCon India at least in 2010. > > > regards > -- > Ramakrishna Reddy GPG > Key ID:31FF0090 > Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > Regards, -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
A PyCon in India would be really good. It could serve as the starting point for a bunch of amateurs like me (who have used it mostly as a scripting language) to explore how Python is used in more large-scale applications. -Regards, Mandar On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > > I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays > > are for suits. So where am I placed ? > > +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, > community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System > Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. > Sometime later this year. I personally would not prefer fsck.in. Not > everone is a developer :P but with python you can become one in a few > hours. I still believe there is lot we can do in order to spread > python . Over past few years I have seen Ruby. Rails as a framework > picking up only with the hype around the technologies. > > > regards > -- > Ramakrishna Reddy GPG > Key ID:31FF0090 > Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai bpil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> On Friday 27 February 2009 16:05:22 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: >>> This used to be called LinuxAsia and had >>> the reputation of a conference for "suits". >>> Not sure how it is now. >> >> afaik it still is for suits > > Dammit! I am desperately looking for a "real" > FOSS conference in India run by people who > actually contribute to FOSS without being eggheads > or making omlettes ! ;-) > > I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays > are for suits. So where am I placed ? Agreed this how the landscape looks like you can join us @ http://www.lug-iitd.org/Delhi_Drupal_Meetup -Satya http://linkedin.com/in/satyaakam ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays > are for suits. So where am I placed ? +1. Lets have a PyCon India, on a the similar lines of Pycon, community run. Nothing big and fancy, but proper Developer | System Administrator | user mini conference or a Python Activity Day. Sometime later this year. I personally would not prefer fsck.in. Not everone is a developer :P but with python you can become one in a few hours. I still believe there is lot we can do in order to spread python . Over past few years I have seen Ruby. Rails as a framework picking up only with the hype around the technologies. regards -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Friday 27 February 2009 16:20:56 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays > are for suits. So where am I placed ? roll your own ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 27 February 2009 16:05:22 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: >> This used to be called LinuxAsia and had >> the reputation of a conference for "suits". >> Not sure how it is now. > > afaik it still is for suits Dammit! I am desperately looking for a "real" FOSS conference in India run by people who actually contribute to FOSS without being eggheads or making omlettes ! ;-) I skip fsck.in, missed freed.in and it seems osidays are for suits. So where am I placed ? > -- > regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > Associate > NRC-FOSS > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Friday 27 February 2009 16:05:22 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > This used to be called LinuxAsia and had > the reputation of a conference for "suits". > Not sure how it is now. afaik it still is for suits -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Mandar Gokhale wrote: > I can't seem to see a link for the conference. [Sorry if it is a problem > with my browser, etc] If not, could someone put up the link of the > conference in question? http://www.osidays.com > > > > -Regards, > Mandar > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai >> wrote: >> > Anyone going for this conference (Mar 12-14) >> > at Chennai ? >> > >> > This used to be called LinuxAsia and had >> > the reputation of a conference for "suits". >> > Not sure how it is now. >> > >> > There seems to a track for FOSS languages >> > the first day. >> > >> > Let me know if someone is going (from Bangalore) >> > for this. >> >> I have submitted a couple of talk proposals- DTrace, MySQL..So, if >> selected, I will go. >> >> Best, >> Amit >> > >> > -- >> > -Anand >> > ___ >> > BangPypers mailing list >> > BangPypers@python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Amit Kumar Saha >> http://amitksaha.blogspot.com >> http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ >> *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in >> >> "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" >> --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion >> ___ >> BangPypers mailing list >> BangPypers@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
I can't seem to see a link for the conference. [Sorry if it is a problem with my browser, etc] If not, could someone put up the link of the conference in question? -Regards, Mandar On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > Anyone going for this conference (Mar 12-14) > > at Chennai ? > > > > This used to be called LinuxAsia and had > > the reputation of a conference for "suits". > > Not sure how it is now. > > > > There seems to a track for FOSS languages > > the first day. > > > > Let me know if someone is going (from Bangalore) > > for this. > > I have submitted a couple of talk proposals- DTrace, MySQL..So, if > selected, I will go. > > Best, > Amit > > > > -- > > -Anand > > ___ > > BangPypers mailing list > > BangPypers@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > > > -- > Amit Kumar Saha > http://amitksaha.blogspot.com > http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ > *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in > > "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" > --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Anyone going for this conference (Mar 12-14) > at Chennai ? > > This used to be called LinuxAsia and had > the reputation of a conference for "suits". > Not sure how it is now. > > There seems to a track for FOSS languages > the first day. > > Let me know if someone is going (from Bangalore) > for this. I have submitted a couple of talk proposals- DTrace, MySQL..So, if selected, I will go. Best, Amit > > -- > -Anand > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Open source India
Anyone going for this conference (Mar 12-14) at Chennai ? This used to be called LinuxAsia and had the reputation of a conference for "suits". Not sure how it is now. There seems to a track for FOSS languages the first day. Let me know if someone is going (from Bangalore) for this. -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
Having not done any worth-mention active coding in past 2years, this is what I write from memory :-) OO Modelling and Visual Development, especially in terms of "free" UML modelling support, in Netbeans 6.0/6.1 was far better than what was available 'back-then' with Eclipse (I am talking of "free" tools). Also, IMHO (and I know wars have started on such topics), from a initial instialltion, download, deployment standpoing, the tight-packed Netbeans was a bit easier to manage than Eclipse. However, my use of Eclipse and Netbeans, and evaluation there-of, was for Java development. For Python development (slight hobby, foo-bar programming), I've found PyScripter (on Windows) to suffice in all respects, but a brief fling with WingIDE showed that you can get that Eclipse mulitple-small window, multi perspective 'type' features. I'm of the genre that likes their window real-estate covered with multiple apps, and not 1 app hogging everything micro-inch of screen space, so PyScripter, or Vim/Shell are what works for me -- but then, it's enough for what I do. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Senthil Kumaran > wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Amit k. Saha > wrote: > >>> I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to > >>> Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) > >> > >> *Long* time ago ? > > > > Yup, may be I tried not with w.r.t Python, but for C++ and I am not > > really sure. I had got the DVD via postal mail or at FOSS.in > > conference. Yeah, It could be for C++ and noticing that Python plugin > > was not there, I went for Eclipse. > > > > Good work Amit on the Docs. I glanced through it and it looks promising. > > Thanks! > > > > > > As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us by > > illustrating some of the main differences whichs NETBEANS has (which > > pydev or any other other IDE (Komodo, Wingware)) does not have? > > That is the exact reason I asked the BangPypers. > > I know and use Python in some of my scripts, for fun & learning, > articles and foo bar tasks.. But I don't Python for a living or even a > full time hobby. So, my experience with other IDE's is merely having > a 10 min or so look.. The largest Python program was a partially > complete - Approximate Reasoning software- was pretty large but I > managed to manage it via IDLE. That was 1.5 years ago..So, my > experience with IDEs is pretty limited.. > > Your opinions will help me - and the other developers in the Python > support for NetBeans, to shape up the future.. > > > Best, > Amit > > > > > It might be good to post to documentations pages as well. > > > > -- > > Senthil > > ___ > > BangPypers mailing list > > BangPypers@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > > > -- > Amit Kumar Saha > http://amitksaha.blogspot.com > http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ > *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in > > "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" > --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- regards, Banibrata http://www.linkedin.com/in/bdutta ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Turbogears Pydev debugging in Eclipse
Harpreet Singh wrote: Hi, I come from the .Net/visual studio environment and i am pretty new to the Turbogears 1.0.4.4 and/or python world. I would like to know if pydev in Eclipse 3.2 supports breakpoint debugging of a Turbogears web application? If yes, this would mean setting a break point in the .py file and doing a step through/step into of the code, while the web page is displayed in the browser. Am i correct? I am not sure how to do it in an IDE (for the fact I never used anything other than Emacs) but you should still be able to make use of pdb. It might not be as good as break point function you are looking for, but yes it allows you to step through the code (from the point you call pdb.set_trace()) in an web app. I have used it with Django and Pylons. -- With Regards, Parthan SR "technofreak" GPG Key 2FF01026 Fingerprint 5707 ECBD 8D8D 8E6E 28F8 DFA5 938B D861 2FF0 1026 Weblog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> >> [..] >> Sure.. I would love to :-) > > Capital! I've put your name next to the item on the wiki page. Going > strictly by what's there, it's the only item for which people are interested > *and* for which someone is willing to present something. Did _I_ create the Bio or is it a bot ? -Amit > > I'm guessing that there are some people around who are capable of presenting > some stuff on web development frameworks (say... web.py? *wink* *wink*). If > they're willing, we'd have two nice presentations lined up for next month. > :) > > -- > ~noufal > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > [..] > Sure.. I would love to :-) > Capital! I've put your name next to the item on the wiki page. Going strictly by what's there, it's the only item for which people are interested *and* for which someone is willing to present something. I'm guessing that there are some people around who are capable of presenting some stuff on web development frameworks (say... web.py? *wink* *wink*). If they're willing, we'd have two nice presentations lined up for next month. :) -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Lakshman Prasad > wrote: >> >> [..] >> Here is my 2 cents to that thread: >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python/495355#495355 > > This looks like a good thread. Thanks. > >> >> Reminds me of XKCD: http://xkcd.com/378/ That IS good! -Amit > > I relate to that comic a little too much. :) > > > -- > ~noufal > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> >> [..] >> >> You- > 'me' ? >> >> on the Python support in NetBeans IDE support ? >> [..] > > Yes. Perhaps I should haven't truncated the whole mail. :) Sure.. I would love to :-) -Amit > > > -- > ~noufal > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Turbogears Pydev debugging in Eclipse
Hi, I come from the .Net/visual studio environment and i am pretty new to the Turbogears 1.0.4.4 and/or python world. I would like to know if pydev in Eclipse 3.2 supports breakpoint debugging of a Turbogears web application? If yes, this would mean setting a break point in the .py file and doing a step through/step into of the code, while the web page is displayed in the browser. Am i correct? I have tried the work around mentioned in the pydev blog(http://pydev.blogspot.com/2006/07/configuring-pydev-to-work-with.html) i.e. patching the DecoratorTools-1.7-py2.4.egg but could not achieve what i think should be supported. Is there a way to set it up? Thanks, Harpreet ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Lakshman Prasad wrote: > [..] > Here is my 2 cents to that thread: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python/495355#495355 > This looks like a good thread. Thanks. > Reminds me of XKCD: http://xkcd.com/378/ > I relate to that comic a little too much. :) -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > [..] > > You- > 'me' ? > > on the Python support in NetBeans IDE support ? > [..] Yes. Perhaps I should haven't truncated the whole mail. :) -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
While we are at the discussion about Py IDEs, May I suggest an awesome thread on stackoverflow, discussing about Python IDEs. Here is my 2 cents to that thread: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python/495355#495355 For all professional python developers, I think Wing IDE is simply the choice, because it is the best IDE out there. Reminds me of XKCD: http://xkcd.com/378/ On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > A little unrelated but nevertheless > > There was (and is) interest expressed in knowing about editing setups ( > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PresentationTopics). > > Since you're actively involved in developing IDEs and plugins, I think it > would be great if you could volunteer a presentation on the topic for the > next Bang Pypers meeting. > > -- > ~noufal > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Regards, Lakshman uswaretech.com/ lakshmanprasad.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> Thanks! >> > > That's great! I had recently seen the mention of NETBEANS at > http://wiki.python.org Editors list and it stayed in my mind. Nice > that we have another editor for Python. > >>> As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us by >>> illustrating some of the main differences whichs NETBEANS has (which >>> pydev or any other other IDE (Komodo, Wingware)) does not have? >> >> That is the exact reason I asked the BangPypers. >> >> I know and use Python in some of my scripts, for fun & learning, >> articles and foo bar tasks.. But I don't Python for a living or even a >> full time hobby. So, my experience with other IDE's is merely having >> a 10 min or so look.. The largest Python program was a partially >> complete - Approximate Reasoning software- was pretty large but I >> managed to manage it via IDLE. That was 1.5 years ago..So, my >> experience with IDEs is pretty limited.. >> >> Your opinions will help me - and the other developers in the Python >> support for NetBeans, to shape up the future.. > > I shall definitely give it a try and let you/group know the comments. > I am sure, other members will give it a try too. :) That's nice :-) Best, Amit -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > A little unrelated but nevertheless > > There was (and is) interest expressed in knowing about editing setups > (http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PresentationTopics). > > Since you're actively involved in developing IDEs and plugins, I think it > would be great if you could volunteer a presentation on the topic for the > next Bang Pypers meeting. You- > 'me' ? on the Python support in NetBeans IDE support ? -Amit > > -- > ~noufal > > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > Thanks! > That's great! I had recently seen the mention of NETBEANS at http://wiki.python.org Editors list and it stayed in my mind. Nice that we have another editor for Python. >> As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us by >> illustrating some of the main differences whichs NETBEANS has (which >> pydev or any other other IDE (Komodo, Wingware)) does not have? > > That is the exact reason I asked the BangPypers. > > I know and use Python in some of my scripts, for fun & learning, > articles and foo bar tasks.. But I don't Python for a living or even a > full time hobby. So, my experience with other IDE's is merely having > a 10 min or so look.. The largest Python program was a partially > complete - Approximate Reasoning software- was pretty large but I > managed to manage it via IDLE. That was 1.5 years ago..So, my > experience with IDEs is pretty limited.. > > Your opinions will help me - and the other developers in the Python > support for NetBeans, to shape up the future.. I shall definitely give it a try and let you/group know the comments. I am sure, other members will give it a try too. :) -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)
A little unrelated but nevertheless There was (and is) interest expressed in knowing about editing setups ( http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PresentationTopics). Since you're actively involved in developing IDEs and plugins, I think it would be great if you could volunteer a presentation on the topic for the next Bang Pypers meeting. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >>> I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to >>> Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) >> >> *Long* time ago ? > > Yup, may be I tried not with w.r.t Python, but for C++ and I am not > really sure. I had got the DVD via postal mail or at FOSS.in > conference. Yeah, It could be for C++ and noticing that Python plugin > was not there, I went for Eclipse. > > Good work Amit on the Docs. I glanced through it and it looks promising. Thanks! > > As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us by > illustrating some of the main differences whichs NETBEANS has (which > pydev or any other other IDE (Komodo, Wingware)) does not have? That is the exact reason I asked the BangPypers. I know and use Python in some of my scripts, for fun & learning, articles and foo bar tasks.. But I don't Python for a living or even a full time hobby. So, my experience with other IDE's is merely having a 10 min or so look.. The largest Python program was a partially complete - Approximate Reasoning software- was pretty large but I managed to manage it via IDLE. That was 1.5 years ago..So, my experience with IDEs is pretty limited.. Your opinions will help me - and the other developers in the Python support for NetBeans, to shape up the future.. Best, Amit > > It might be good to post to documentations pages as well. > > -- > Senthil > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to >> Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) > > *Long* time ago ? Yup, may be I tried not with w.r.t Python, but for C++ and I am not really sure. I had got the DVD via postal mail or at FOSS.in conference. Yeah, It could be for C++ and noticing that Python plugin was not there, I went for Eclipse. Good work Amit on the Docs. I glanced through it and it looks promising. As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us by illustrating some of the main differences whichs NETBEANS has (which pydev or any other other IDE (Komodo, Wingware)) does not have? It might be good to post to documentations pages as well. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> Do we have anyone who has at least tried the Python support in >> NetBeans IDE? Its at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python. >> >> Can I make an appeal -would you like to atleast try? I would love to >> hear back from you folks.. > > Python Plugins for NETBEANS is already available. > > http://www.netbeans.org/features/python/ > http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansPythonTutorial Can we add this in the BangPypers wiki ? It is here. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers > > > I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to > Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) > In case you try Eclipse, a good support for python is available with > pydev plugin for Eclipse. > > -- > Senthil > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > Thanks, -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Pydev 1.4.4 Released
BTW Praveen, Thanks for "Forwarding" the release emails. It does help the people at times to get to know whats released. My suggestion is that when you are forwarding, just ensure that it is a forward and attributed to the correct From: address. Otherwise folks might get thinking that you are churning out so many releases. :) -- Senthil On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Praveen Kumar wrote: > Pydev 1.4.4 Released > > Hi All, > > Pydev and Pydev Extensions 1.4.4 have been released -- note that the release > already happened 4 days ago... :) > > Details on Pydev Extensions: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev > Details on Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net > Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com > > Release Highlights in Pydev: > -- > This release fixes a critical bug when configuring the interpreter (if > no environment variables were specified, it was not possible to > configure an interpreter) > > What is PyDev? > --- > PyDev is an open source plugin(a first class Python IDE for Eclipse) that > enables users to use Eclipse for Python and > Jython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It > comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting, > syntax analysis, refactor, debug and many others. > First class IDE for Python Development > * Leading Python & Jython development environment > * Fully integrates with Aptana Studio or Eclipse > * Code completion and syntax checker > * Integrated debugger, remote debugging with Pro version > > To learn more about PyDev( http://aptana.com/python ) > > Cheers, > > Praveen Kumar > > Bangalore > > +91 9739854134 > > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> Do we have anyone who has at least tried the Python support in >> NetBeans IDE? Its at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python. >> >> Can I make an appeal -would you like to atleast try? I would love to >> hear back from you folks.. > > Python Plugins for NETBEANS is already available. > > http://www.netbeans.org/features/python/ > http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansPythonTutorial That is what I said :-) > > > I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to > Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) *Long* time ago ? The effort that I am talking about has been started just 6-7 months back.. > In case you try Eclipse, a good support for python is available with > pydev plugin for Eclipse. > > -- > Senthil > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > Do we have anyone who has at least tried the Python support in > NetBeans IDE? Its at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python. > > Can I make an appeal -would you like to atleast try? I would love to > hear back from you folks.. Python Plugins for NETBEANS is already available. http://www.netbeans.org/features/python/ http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansPythonTutorial I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) In case you try Eclipse, a good support for python is available with pydev plugin for Eclipse. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?
Hi all, Do we have anyone who has at least tried the Python support in NetBeans IDE? Its at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python. Can I make an appeal -would you like to atleast try? I would love to hear back from you folks.. Best, Amit -- Amit Kumar Saha http://amitksaha.blogspot.com http://amitsaha.in.googlepages.com/ *Bangalore Open Java Users Group*:http:www.bojug.in "Recursion is the basic iteration mechanism in Scheme" --- http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TailRecursion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
