Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

2013-10-03 Thread Venu Murthy 
As far as I know, this is permanent move Rahul, Pycharm is going to have
two versions, the basic one is opensourced for ever and then there one with
more bells and whistles which is licensed.


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM,  wrote:

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>   free now! (Dhananjay Nene)
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> From: Mandar Vaze / ? ???  
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> Downloaded it, bit not used it, yet. (still using vim)
> But I have heard so much praise about pycharm from everyone in every
> (python related) forum that I can't wait to use it
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> -Mandar
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> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Venu Murthy  >wrote:
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> > Hello Comrades!
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> > I am happy to share with the joyful news that my favourite language -
> > Python and it's one of the best IDE - pycharm has been opensourced and
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> > be downloaded from this link
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> > http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
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> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Mandar Vaze / ? ???
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> > Downloaded it, bit not used it, yet. (still using vim)
> > But I have heard so much praise about pycharm from everyone in every
> > (python related) forum that I can't wait to use it
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> Any links to the discussions?
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> > -Mandar
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> venu.mur...@thoughtworks.com>wrote:
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> >> Hello Comrades!
> >>
> >> I am happy to share with the joyful news that my favourite language -
> >> Python and it's one of the best IDE - pycharm has been opensourced and
> can
> >> be downloaded from this link
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> >> http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
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Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

2013-10-03 Thread Aditya Laghate 
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:24:27PM +0530, Venu Murthy wrote:
> As far as I know, this is permanent move Rahul, Pycharm is going to have
> two versions, the basic one is opensourced for ever and then there one with
> more bells and whistles which is licensed.

It is opensourced or just given out free? I did not see any link to the
source code.

Cheers
Aditya
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Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

2013-10-03 Thread Dhananjay Nene 
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Aditya Laghate  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:24:27PM +0530, Venu Murthy wrote:
>> As far as I know, this is permanent move Rahul, Pycharm is going to have
>> two versions, the basic one is opensourced for ever and then there one with
>> more bells and whistles which is licensed.
>
> It is opensourced or just given out free? I did not see any link to the
> source code.
>
Its in the downloaded tar.gz. You'll find the jar in lib/src

Besides the community edition clearly mentions "Free, open-source,
Apache 2 license"


> Cheers
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Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

2013-10-03 Thread Aditya Laghate 
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:18:24PM +0530, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
> >
> Its in the downloaded tar.gz. You'll find the jar in lib/src
> Besides the community edition clearly mentions "Free, open-source,
> Apache 2 license"

I had downloaded the OS X version of PyCharm. Looked into the lib/src
folder and found three files (OS X version), viz:
- pycharm-openapi-src.zip
- pycharm-pydev-src.zip
- trove4j_src.jar

None of them have the entire source code the PyCharm IDE.

I don't know what is available in the linux package.

btw, pycharm.jar is about 74 mb, as against the total of the above three
files in the src folder is 897 kb.

Did a google search for 'source code pycharm', found a link to a blog
post[1]. One of the comments was asking for the link of the source code,
which was answered by "The source code of PyCharm CE will be available
in the intellij-community repo on GitHub under Apache 2 license in a few
days."

So, I guess that solves my question on the source code.

Links:
1:
http://blog.jetbrains.com/pycharm/2013/09/jetbrains-delights-the-python-community-with-a-free-edition-of-its-famous-ide-pycharm-3-0/

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[BangPypers] Getting a random record from Database . The best strategy.

2013-10-03 Thread Amit Sethi 
Hi ,  I am not sure if this question will be considered sufficiently
python related. If its not than I am sorry I will take this somewhere
else

I am setting up some smoke tests for which I am fetching some records
from the db.

I am using sqlalchemy for this right now.
My real question when fetching such a random record from a db for some reason.
What is the best strategy.

Should I use some  kind of randomizer in the database tool.
Or should I use something in ORM
Or should I make the decision for finding the random value in the
python or the language I am working with and then fetch the record
using the tools I am using.


Thanks
Amit

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