Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:10 +0530, Guruprasad wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Senthil skksun...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi Kenneth, Really appreciate your help. I was able to configure the web2py to run on apache successfully. Thanks to everyone for the support. What was the issue and how did you solve it? It'd be great if you could post a short writeup. the issue was that apache was giving forbidden error when trying to access his app and the solution was to give apache the permissions. This is a very common issue in fedora/redhat/centos/ where the default for most directories under / is not to give execute permission to all. This error was further compounded by him putting his app under /root which is usually more heavily protected than most directories. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 18:43 +0800, Senthil wrote: My app is under the directory /root/web2py/web2py. Sorry about the late reply. and if you notice, that does not have 755 permissions - and it is not a very healthy thing to put apps under /root - but it is your funeral! -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 17:46 +0530, Sriram Karra wrote: I invite you to browse the source code at:https://github.com/skarra/PRSand/or give the application a spin here: am getting a 404 -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 17:59 +0530, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: am getting a 404 I guess he meant https://github.com/skarra/PRS Thanks figured it out - sorry for the noise. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 14:26 +0800, Senthil wrote: But i keep getting the 403 forbidden error. Am not sure what am doing wrong here . chmod -R 755 /path_to_static/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 17:18 +0800, Senthil wrote: But i have already set that. The only difference is i have given all permissions to all, meaning chmod -R 777 /path_to_static/ there *are* easier ways to commit suicide! Disable selinux and see if it helps. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 15:25 +0530, kracethekingmaker wrote: Talk is cheap, show me the code -- Linus Torvalds this quote taken out of context has caused enough trouble in the open source community, please read the whole thread to understand the context. Start here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2000/8/26/52 -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:09 +0800, Senthil wrote: I have changed the permissions to 755 and have disabled the selinux already :( sad Still no luck... are you by any chance using firefox - I find that very often firefox cache is the culprit - even clearing the cache does not help. Sometimes it takes hours to work. Can you give the output of apache error logs - maybe you have a typo somewhere. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:43 +0800, Senthil wrote: I tried it over IE, Firefox and Chrome. All had the same result. cd to /, do ls -al and paste the output here -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django developer for a startup
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 17:14 +0530, Pradip Caulagi wrote: To apply, send a mail to care...@wwstay.com with your github/bitbucket url. *Don't send resumes*. I wish more people would make this condition. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Job list
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:01 +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: Not everyone (including me) knows about all the tags or the right tag for the purpose. I don't think there was any formal list. Here are the list of tags that I've seen people using: [Job] [Commercial] [OT] - Off-topic [X-POST] - Cross posted to multiple groups the last one to be used *solely* for announcements of general importance to all the lists it is posted to. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python script to limit access to Internet...
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 13:34 +0530, Vishal wrote: I would like to limit internet access at my home, for some computers. Basically for a given time during the day (read schedule), I wish that the a given computer should not be able to access the internet. However, the computer is still connected to the internal LAN, so file/print sharing should be allowed. what is the configuration of the LAN? are you using some proxy like squid and a dhcp server, or are you using the router as a dhcp server? Are you running your own firewall? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python script to limit access to Internet...
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 14:15 +0530, Vishal wrote: I am using the router as the DHCP server. The firewall is windows firewall. ouch No separate proxy server. Most solutions i looked at, pointed to being something for the entire network...not sure how to use them, since in my network everyone is connected to the router, which is then connected to the internet (just a regular home network), no central authority controlling others. the simplest solution is to run your own dhcp/proxy/firewall server. It is dead easy on linux and you do not need to write any scripts. Just a cron job to handle the timing. I do not know anything about windows - but one thing, networks where you rely on the dhcp server on the router are highly unsafe. Please avoid them. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python script to limit access to Internet...
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 15:38 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com writes: [...] but one thing, networks where you rely on the dhcp server on the router are highly unsafe. Please avoid them. Why so? in the first place, these are setup by the 'technical' staff of the service provider. The root password is usually root123, the firewall is identical on all modems, the permissions are the widest possible and the client machines are usually windows. I use this, but my machines are all linux with proper firewalls, and I can see the sort of rubbish the router lets in in the logs. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python script to limit access to Internet...
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 16:13 +0530, Baishampayan Ghose wrote: Why so? in the first place, these are setup by the 'technical' staff of the service provider. The root password is usually root123, the firewall is identical on all modems, the permissions are the widest possible and the client machines are usually windows. I use this, but my machines are all linux with proper firewalls, and I can see the sort of rubbish the router lets in in the logs. True, but I am not sure how this is related to running the DHCP server on the router. ok if you configure the server on the router yourself, replace the root password and configure the firewall there also (after all most routers run linux, so no big deal - anyway this is getting highly OT. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] ASynK - Flexible PIM synchronization across Google Contacts, Outlook, Emacs BBDB
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 14:12 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: Have a look at the project page at: http://karra-asynk.appspot.com/ on where to get it, documentation etc. The download and other links don't seem to work for me. Btw, if you are sharing code please publish it in github or google code. or bitbucket -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] workshop
hi, I am conducting two python workshops for students in Trivandrum on 23rd and 24th June. I would like to have some help in the lab on these days - and maybe to take a few sessions also. The organisers will handle travel and accommodation. Please contact me offlist. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT?] Re: Industrial Control Systems in Python
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 21:24 +0530, Vishal wrote: If I am wrong on this line of thought i would love to be corrected. you are 100% correct. If you want warranty, you have to pay for it - many open source projects offer warranty on payment, and there are also many third party vendors who offer warranties for specific products/stacks. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python for a college kid..
I have something available in Ooty - the only thing is my interns pay me (and not the other way round) On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 19:34 +0530, kracethekingmaker wrote: Hi Most important point to be noted does your brother enjoying programming? He wants to code in python personally? Introduce him to other language as well. Bhavyabhavya.ma...@gmail.com writes: Hello everyone, I am looking for some information advice on Python jobs internships in Bangalore. My brother will be passing out of college with a degree in information science engineering this semester. Unfortunately, his grades are bad. I work with a start up in Montreal we are python crazy,Though I am not on development side, I have been singing praises about web development python to him. He is learning python right now - he is been on Zed Shaw's Learn python the hard way on Udacity's course. Zed Shaw is a good teacher. I think he's picked a good book to work through. So, here is what I wanted to know - are there any entry level internships dealing with python web development in Bangalore ? How much do academics matter to get into any of these ? I think there are small companies in Bangalore (and possibly other cities) that are open to the idea of taking smart kids as interns. They *might* not pay too well but I think that's okay as long as the kid understands that he's being paid lesser than the market rate. I'm not sure if this will affect his later salaries though. The larger companies, atleast in my experience, have become so laden with bureaucratic barnacle that to simply apply for an internship is a bit of a chore in itself. The other thing is that a lot of college students these days get exposed to real world software development via. free software. Along with more structured programs like the Google summer of code, they have a lot of ways other than grades to prove their mettle to prospective employers. This is double edged. It magnifies the differences between the students so smart kids get a greater advantage earlier on while average ones who stick to the purely academic line lose out a little. Any advice and/or help will be much appreciated. So, in summary, my advice would be for your brother to get involved in some free software work. This will give him a bit of a reputation if he pulls it off. Then connect with the startup and tech communities in Bangalore and other cities. I think something will come his way. Good luck to him! [...] -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] JOB - Senior Web Developer - Talented Team!
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 10:39 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: Ah well, that was supposed to go to the sender. My bad. Ignore it. welcome to the club -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] JOB - Senior Web Developer - Talented Team!
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 06:51 +, स्वक्ष wrote: Let's not change the default setting to address a corner case. Not asking for a change, just saying that blaming the mail client** is not a solution when it is the last point in the delivery chain. ** most linux clients are smart as is I use evolution which is the stupidest mail client that I have seen. When doing a private reply, I click on 'reply privately' - it gives a warning - 'you are replying privately to a group mail', and happily sends the mail to the group. There is no way to reply privately other than cutting and pasting the sender's address. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Question on GUI
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 01:19 +0530, Nikunj Badjatya wrote: I have never worked on developing GUIs before. Need some suggestions on how to proceed with one. basic - tkinter, advanced - wxPython, sexy - kivy -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python private coach?
I do private one-to-one coaching in python and django. I am based in Ooty and find for Indians, remote usually does not work. I normally insist on personal presence (at least at the beginning). However I am willing to give remote a try. I charge 25K. My code is here: http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/ On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 01:35 -0800, quantrum75 wrote: Hi Bangpypers, I just joined this group as I am highly enthusiastic about Python. However, the reason for this mail is to see if there are anyone in this group with an aptitude for teaching python on a one-to-one basis? I would like to obtain python coaching online for a fee. This would be the ideal situation for a smart college educated pythonista to get some extra money. I am quite comfortable with the syntax of python. In fact I have written fairly long scripts previously. What I am looking for is a complete perspective with regards to writing software professionally. I am completely self-taught so I am very rough with regards to writing elegant python software. The interested person would act as a coach to help me to progress to writing professional, COMPLETE software. I expect this to be one hour every week online. I pick up stuff fairly easily, so the main role of the person would be act as a guide more than anything else. I know I could join a open source project etc, but what I am looking for is rigor in the learning process. I also expect the person to be professional about the teaching part. Thank you very much for your time and I shall look forward to receiving your replies (please reply to my email and not the group) Regards Rama PS - Anyone who is interested, I would like to go in depth your previous background with python before I commit if it is ok. I am quite easy to get along with, so once we are ok with each other, you should find the teaching process quite interesting. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python private coach?
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 22:20 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 03:17:06PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I do private one-to-one coaching in python and django. I am based in Was the group response intentional? If so, appreciate that!. :-) ouch -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python 3 availability
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 16:06 +0530, Jins Thomas wrote: Would like to have some guesses on when Python 3 will be available with standard distributions of Linux/Unix. depends on what you mean by standard distributions. For example archlinux moved in 2010 to it as default. Fedora has it - but not installed by default. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python 3 availability
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 17:17 +0530, Jins Thomas wrote: Yes, Thanks, i meant the same, especially RHEL debian will take some time and RHEL will take a long time. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python 3 availability
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 17:29 +0530, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 17:17 +0530, Jins Thomas wrote: debian will take some time and RHEL will take a long time. You are replying without really checking :) Debian(Squeeze) already has python 3. It is not the default though. Much like what you told for Fedora. Thanks my bad (/me upgrades has opinion of debian) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python ORM
On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 21:40 +0530, kracekumar ramaraju wrote: Out all examples and discussions, every one seems to recommend SQLAlchemy, but it has deep learning curve whereas storm, peewee are light weight. Have anyone tried any of these for non-trivial project or real life big sites, in case yes please share the experience. my (highly prejudiced) opinion: 1. I would rather write raw sql than grapple with SQLAlchemy 2. Canonical are the bad boys of the open source world, so I would not touch any of their products with a barge pole. 3. My vote is for peewee - it is django-like, and although I have not tried peewee in production, it looks like just the thing I need for my forthcoming android project. ps. thanks for introducing me to peewee. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] python framework for android
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 14:13 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: You can use django and fireup the browser in android to do the requests. :) some how I have the feeling that django may be a trifle overkill ;-) Apart from that, there is android-scripting application (not a framework) http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/, where in your restricted python scripts can be made to execute But that is far less featured than using Android SDK itself. I have seen people going back to SDK after trying the scripting environment for a while. am looking at kivy right now -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] python framework for android
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 14:24 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com wrote: am looking at kivy right now Looks neat. I would like to try that one too. there was a wonderful talk on it in the last pycon. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 06:44 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: def peoria(holes): import random random.shuffle(holes) result = [] checklist = [] used = [] for hole in holes: if len(checklist) == 3: break if hole[1] not in checklist: result.append(hole) checklist.append(hole[1]) used.append(hole) available = set(holes) - set(used) result.extend(list(available)[:3]) return result and the my final version: def peoria(holes): random.shuffle(holes) result = [] checklist = [] for hole in holes: if len(checklist) == 3: break if hole[1] not in checklist: result.append(hole) checklist.append(hole[1]) available = [x for x in holes if x not in result] result.extend(available[:3]) return result -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 18:19 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote: I have posted at, http://pastebin.com/BG6X70Sv I don't understand why or how it got stripped. mailing list policy -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 17:34 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote: I don't like special casing stuff and the 3 selections outside the main flow sticks out in my solution. I guess that is right. Any logic that is outside the main flow breaks the beauty and create kludge. the old fashioned way: def peoria(holes): import random random.shuffle(holes) result = [] checklist = [] used = [] for hole in holes: if len(checklist) == 3: break if hole[1] not in checklist: result.append(hole) checklist.append(hole[1]) used.append(hole) available = set(holes) - set(used) result.extend(list(available)[:3]) return result -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Coming soon page designer needed (was: BangPypers Digest, Vol 52, Issue 26)
On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 18:26 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: P.S. This is the first email I've seen that's explictly asking for a beautiful coder to get work done. :) I was wondering why he did not ask for her photo -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 10:01 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote:
# Initialize variables
holes, bk = HOLES[:], {} ;
random.shuffle( holes )
# Make buckets
[ bk.setdefault(y, []).append((x,y)) for x, y in holes ]
# Result
print [ bk[3].pop(0), bk[4].pop(0), bk[5].pop(0) ] + random.sample(
bk[3] + bk[4] + bk[5], 3 )
Some times the crude method is the best method ?
just curious - why do you and Noufal think this is a crude method?
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Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 17:34 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote: Attached is the file. I think the attachment got stripped. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 10:01 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote:
# Initialize variables
holes, bk = HOLES[:], {} ;
random.shuffle( holes )
# Make buckets
[ bk.setdefault(y, []).append((x,y)) for x, y in holes ]
# Result
print [ bk[3].pop(0), bk[4].pop(0), bk[5].pop(0) ] + random.sample(
bk[3] + bk[4] + bk[5], 3 )
Some times the crude method is the best method ?
A crude analysis on the above logic and number of passes made on the
sample list.
1. To copy HOLES to holes
2. To shuffle holes using random.shuffle()
3. To make buckets
4. random.sample() is another crude algorithm which seems to be in
between O(n) and O(n^2) - a wild guess.
I am pasting Gora's and G0sub's solutions here as pastebins expire and
the next golfer who searches this list will get confused.
Gora:
import random
ALL_HOLES=[(1, 5),
(2, 3),
(3, 4),
(4, 4),
(5, 5),
(6, 4),
(7, 3),
(8, 4),
(9, 3),
(10, 4),
(11, 3),
(12, 4),
(13, 4),
(14, 3),
(15, 4),
(16, 5),
(17, 4),
(18, 4)]
PAR3_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==3]
PAR4_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==4]
PAR5_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==5]
# Must allow at least 2 holes of par 4, and 5
n3 = random.randint( 1, 4 )
SEL_PAR3_HOLES = random.sample( PAR3_HOLES, n3 )
# Must allow at least 1 hole of par 5
n4 = random.randint( 1, 5 - n3 )
SEL_PAR4_HOLES = random.sample( PAR4_HOLES, n4 )
n5 = 6 - n4 - n3
SEL_PAR5_HOLES = random.sample( PAR5_HOLES, n5 )
# Selected values are in SEL_PAR3_HOLES, SEL_PAR4_HOLES, SEL_PAR5_HOLES
print len( SEL_PAR3_HOLES ), len( SEL_PAR4_HOLES ), len( SEL_PAR5_HOLES
)
G0sub:
import random
ALL_HOLES=[(1, 5),
(2, 3),
(3, 4),
(4, 4),
(5, 5),
(6, 4),
(7, 3),
(8, 4),
(9, 3),
(10, 4),
(11, 3),
(12, 4),
(13, 4),
(14, 3),
(15, 4),
(16, 5),
(17, 4),
(18, 4)]
PAR3_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==3]
PAR4_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==4]
PAR5_HOLES=[i for i in ALL_HOLES if i[1]==5]
# Must allow at least 2 holes of par 4, and 5
n3 = random.randint( 1, 4 )
SEL_PAR3_HOLES = random.sample( PAR3_HOLES, n3 )
# Must allow at least 1 hole of par 5
n4 = random.randint( 1, 5 - n3 )
SEL_PAR4_HOLES = random.sample( PAR4_HOLES, n4 )
n5 = 6 - n4 - n3
SEL_PAR5_HOLES = random.sample( PAR5_HOLES, n5 )
# Selected values are in SEL_PAR3_HOLES, SEL_PAR4_HOLES, SEL_PAR5_HOLES
print len( SEL_PAR3_HOLES ), len( SEL_PAR4_HOLES ), len( SEL_PAR5_HOLES
)
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Re: [BangPypers] golf problem
On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 10:01 +0530, Pratap Chakravarthy wrote:
# Initialize variables
holes, bk = HOLES[:], {} ;
random.shuffle( holes )
# Make buckets
[ bk.setdefault(y, []).append((x,y)) for x, y in holes ]
# Result
print [ bk[3].pop(0), bk[4].pop(0), bk[5].pop(0) ] + random.sample(
bk[3] + bk[4] + bk[5], 3 )
Some times the crude method is the best method ?
perfect - you win a free golf lesson the next time you are in Ooty.
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[BangPypers] golf problem
hi, a golf course has 18 holes. There are three types of hole - par 3, par 4 and par 5. For a certain type of tournament it is necessary to generate a random list of 6 holes. The only condition is that this list should contain at least one of each type of hole. What would be an elegant way of doing this. Sample data for Ooty golf course is given below. The hole number is the first element of each tuple and the par is the second element. [(1, 5), (2, 3), (3, 4), (4, 4), (5, 5), (6, 4), (7, 3), (8, 4), (9, 3), (10, 4), (11, 3), (12, 4), (13, 4), (14, 3), (15, 4), (16, 5), (17, 4), (18, 4)] -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: GlobalLogic Python Position
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:07 +0530, chetan giridhar wrote: - OOPS concepts in Python they want people who apologise when they drop things? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Some weird issues even though apparently the syntax is correct.
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 00:19 +0530, Subhodip Biswas wrote: Debugging reveals that the data in s becomes nonetype during the flow(so print y.someresult is also nonetype in the end). I am sure I am missing out something very silly here but catch the cat. Please help me in finding where I am going wrong here. it would be nice if you posted the actual code you used (even if you are working for the CIA I am sure they won't mind) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Selenium with python training
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 07:08 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: javascript? not java? I think, while recording the tests with selenium ide, DOM, XPATH, CSS and id know-hows were more useful than anything else. These concepts are language agnostic, but given that many times we try to test the javascript events on browser, I thought javascript is more useful. sorry - I was under the impression that selenium was written in Java Java is for mobile /server side these days, right? :) I would rather not express my opinion on what Java is for ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Transmeta in django is not working with mysql
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 04:57 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Thank you for your information. I'm using django_modeltranslation that did the trick for me. me too -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Hello // Intro
On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 18:59 +0530, bhuvan thaker wrote: + What programming language is most suitable for web 2.0 kind of application development. This is in the context of time taken to build app + less problematic + platform neutral. errm ... a wild guess - python? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Selenium with python training
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 15:07 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: BTW, selenium is web functional testing, more like how user uses the web app. It provides hooks to variety of languages, python being one. Javascript knowledge would be more desirable for selenium than python. javascript? not java? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] django signals
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 14:19 +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: Found via this wonderful site - https://www.google.com/search?q=django+signals+example which gave much better results than http://duckduckgo.com/?q=django+signals+example I resent that ;-). How about this: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Adocs.djangoproject.com+signals+example -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] seantis questionnaire - Django App
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 06:47 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Thanks for your answer. Now how user is created in 'Subject' model of Questionnaire App? Whether we need to create manually or allow user to create his credentials? And why this app always creates AnonymousUser? the docs specifically state that django auth is not used. You will have to roll your own (or use django auth) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] seantis questionnaire - Django App
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 22:32 +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote: * A smart person on the Solr mailing list put together this Wiki page on how best to use mailing lists. Somewhat Solr-specific, but definitely worth a read: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/UsingMailingLists this is the django equivalent: https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingTheMailingList -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] seantis questionnaire - Django App
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 13:21 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Another question how we can check the feature 'export CSV' in this questionnaire app? export CSV means to create a comma separated file which can be imported into a spreadsheet for analysis. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] seantis questionnaire - Django App
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:52 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Where i can get user manual or tutorial for seantis questionnaire django application? their website would be a good place. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] seantis questionnaire - Django App
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 04:37 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Can you provide me the url for their webite? http://duckduckgo.com/?q=seantis+questionnaire -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Seeks Professional Guidance ?
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 16:45 +0530, vishnu prasad wrote: Greetings from vishnu prasad gaddam, am working in call centre i would like to continue my carrer in open source especially in python language can u tell me python is related to web development how it is suppose to explore with django frame work ? could you explain what you mean? is there any fresher job openings related to python yes - many ?how much knowledge they can expect as a fresher in python ? you should know how to write a decorator. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] collections
hi, python collections are cool and I am dying to use them in production. But so far I am yet to find a use case for using them - any experiences? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] collections
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 17:23 +0530, Saager Mhatre wrote: python collections are cool and I am dying to use them in production. But so far I am yet to find a use case for using them - any experiences? I'm assuming you mean the Python collections package that provides 'High-performance container datatypes'. yes We use defaultdict to good effect at work, but as far as I can tell, that's the only one we use from that package; other than Callable that I used in a bunch of test utilities, but that usage wasn't really valuable. but it must be useful for *something* ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] ubutu fonts..
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 18:51 +0530, Sreenivas Reddy T wrote: Please pardon me for this off-topic post. why should we? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] ubutu fonts..
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 10:48 +0530, Sreenivas Reddy T wrote: Would have been much better if you say why should i?,since you cannot speak for others/you do not represent others here.anyway , i am leaving it to you to pardon me or not.. I do not - this is a blatant misuse of this list. And to add insult to injury you give an arrogant reply instead of accepting your mistake. It also shows that your 'apology' in the original post is insincere. btw, since this list is governed by peer pressure every member is entitled to speak in the list on behalf of the list. You did not ask *me* to forgive you - you asked the list, so I have every right to ask why the list should do so. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] File read
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 16:53 +0530, Shashidhar Paragonda wrote: is my if else structure is wrong or not I am totally not getting other idea please help thank you in advance. please paste code -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] pyjamas
hi, I was looking at pyjamas - it seems a little unusual - has anyone used it and has feedback on it? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] webmail server
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:47 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: that is my problem - the default for roundcube is mysql, and am unable to configure it for postgresql without spending time on understanding how installing drivers for PHP works. And I do not want to spend that time for a one-off thing like this. If it's one off and you're not going to use it for long, you can try posterity. *I* am not going to use it, and since it is not going to live on *my* server, I went with roundcube/mysql. I now need to purify my laptop. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] webmail server
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:01 +0530, Baishampayan Ghose wrote: Lamson - http://lamsonproject.org/ sorry - wrong question - I meant webmail client - like openwebmail. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] An interesting post on the next web app language
On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 13:29 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: http://seldo.com/weblog/2011/08/11/php_needs_to_die_what_will_replace_it the guy seems to be a bit confused at the difference between a language and a framework - hardly surprising given his core competency. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Git training course
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 13:59 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: This is OT for the list but a lot of people expressed interest in this when I spoke to them at PyCon in Pune. I am offering a training on git on the 22nd and 23rd of October in Bangalore. The details are at http://nibrahim.net.in/2011/10/07/git_training.html Please spread the word. if you were to include something on mercurial, it would no longer be OT -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Git training course
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 15:23 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: if you were to include something on mercurial, it would no longer be OT Arguably but I don't use hg. I see some repos on bitbucket - you maintain them with hg-git? (a good topic that you could add) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python 3.2 and Django
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 21:53 -0700, Hussain Bohra wrote: Let me identify if any other MVC framework I can use along with python 3.2. django is not an MKC framework anyway. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines (was: [JOB] - Yahoo!)
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:10 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: I hear from others (BRUG, BarCamp Bangalore) that first time posters who send recruitment mails are simply rejected. That sounds like a sane policy to me. chennaipy rejects all recruitment mail that does not have any concrete reference to python. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:47 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: So, job postings not at all related to Python are fine as long as they're prefixed with [JOB]? no - unless it is a generic 'programmers wanted' post without specifying tools. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:56 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: So, random headhunters/recruiters are free to use this list to post for any job postings but the onus is on the list members to filter out the Python related postings from the non python ones. Correct? Am I the only one who thinks this is backward? I am with you -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] List guidelines
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 20:17 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: Sorry, poking fun at a company's board of directors, etc, is in poor taste, and cannot be condoned off as light hearted humor. Poking fun at a company's practices, especially one which one may not yourself practice and therefore not be in a position to comment on, is also tells poorly poorly about that commentator. It has been only these two cases that I've raised concerns about. nothing wrong with poking fun -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Yahoo!
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 18:37 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: We have to then solve a problem to having a common understanding of what's fine and what's not. python is fine - non python is not fine. Lighthearted banter is fine. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Yahoo!
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 18:38 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: Please, love your language etc, but let us give the impression that we are not a bunch of amateur kids here, but professionals who are ready to give a bit of space for others to live amongst us. I made the mistake of telling OK to this guy on posting here, never going to repeat the mistake again. I had thought better of this list in fact. My bad. love of language is not the issue - this list has a specific focus, and we need to respect that. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Yahoo!
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 18:39 +0530, hemant wrote: - Does it have [JOB] or something in subject, so as people can steer clear if they want? - Does it exactly say, what the requirements are and for which company? - Does it mention location? - It should not sound phony. If a job posting matches all of the above, it is all good. However, as a community if everyone agrees, one can add: - Must mention Python as keyword in job posting. an advertisement for a job in a zoo involving cleaning the reptile enclosure would fulfill your criteria. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Yahoo!
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 12:45 +0530, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: Let's keep it technical, they seem to look for perl guys and perhaps a python developers are useful for them too. Of course, any good company would think that good python programmers can be good (any language) programmers too. AFAIK, Y! is one such. That is not evident in their post. I think people should respect the list users when posting. In Python is not mentioned as a skill set, then this list should not be used for those wildcard job offers. +1 -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Create Better Python community
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 10:11 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: Maybe we should have more hackdays. Something the IPSS should think about pretty soon. [...] I don't mind travelling any distance once a month. My main problem is the lack of interest. I mailed for a few months (after our last PyCon) and meetings took place. After that, the apathy was too much. chennaipy meets on the 4th Saturday of every month, this is fixed. Attendance varies from 2 to 15. So the question is not 'shall we meet?' but 'are you attending'. This has been going on since 2006 with some breaks now and then. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] two dropdowns dependents on each other
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 05:50 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: Can you provide me example using ajax? I do not do ajax - all the samples are proprietary. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] two dropdowns dependents on each other
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 05:46 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: I have two dropdowns one dropdown is dependent on other (Ex. Country/State dropdowns) Now how can I implement this thing in django? I'm using modelform concept to display form which having two dropdowns Any sugtgestions? without ajax: 1. override __init__ on your modelform, pass the value of the first dropdown to __init__ and populate the second dropdown depending on that value. If the value is None, the second dropdown will not be populated. 2. in your template, refresh the page when the value of the first dropdown changes. A sample of overriding __init__ is here: https://bitbucket.org/lawgon/djangogolf/src/822bb414b722/web/views.py#cl-379 -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] two dropdowns dependents on each other
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 15:45 +0530, Amit Sethi wrote: without ajax: 1. override __init__ on your modelform, pass the value of the first dropdown to __init__ and populate the second dropdown depending on that value. If the value is None, the second dropdown will not be populated. 2. in your template, refresh the page when the value of the first dropdown changes. There might be a small problem doing this without ajax. While reloading, the __init__ of the first form will also run which will bring all user input to default,and thus would require you set the values again explicitly instead why not get the values as json object and populate as required using jquery. ajax is the way to go - but if you need to learn ajax for it and there is a deadline ... again depends on what kind of form it is. For bus booking one can force the user to populate the dropdowns first. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] two dropdowns dependents on each other
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 05:46 +, Asif Jamadar wrote: I have two dropdowns one dropdown is dependent on other (Ex. Country/State dropdowns) Now how can I implement this thing in django? ajax -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Create Better Python community
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 22:36 +0530, kracekumar ramaraju wrote: Things you could do to improve diversity what is a diverse person? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] how to write Operating System in python
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 15:26 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: vikas ruhil vikasruhi...@gmail.com writes: I am looking towards to write an operating system in Python? How i can write kernel and kernel calls on Debian Linux ! any body can help reagrd this !! [...] I mailed a while ago about choosing the right tool for a given task (as opposed to seeing everything as a nail). Are there any reasons why you're interested in doing this in Python (as opposed to say Ruby)? or C? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] parsing xml
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 19:57 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: xml parsing in the case when all that you need from the string is a simple numeric value(not a string), then good luck; unlike esr i will not use adjectives; but i would not use your code either. To be fair here, I think what he is saying is that Kenneth's problem (getting at the particular value) can be solved by using an aptly written regular expression which might be the fastest - not in terms of CPU cycles alone, but in terms of time to code it up - solution. right now I need one value - but that will probably change. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] parsing xml
hi, here is a simplified version of an xml file: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? gpx metadata author nameCloudMade/name email id=support domain=cloudmade.com / link href=http://maps.cloudmade.com;/link /author copyright author=CloudMade licensehttp://cloudmade.com/faq#license/license /copyright time2011-07-28T07:04:01/time /metadata extensions distance1489/distance time344/time startSägerstraße/start endIm Gisinger Feld/end /extensions /gpx I want to get the value of the distance element - 1489. What is the simplest way of doing this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] parsing xml
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 15:33 +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: I want to get the value of the distance element - 1489. What is the simplest way of doing this? from xml.dom import minidom dom = minidom.parseString(x) dom.getElementsByTagName(distance)[0].childNodes[0].nodeValue u'1489' thanks - perfect. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 19:18 +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: Never seen KG type so much till now ;) finally getting some speed with Dvorak. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 15:10 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: I know my limitations - a, if the client agrees or c. But I *have* turned away work where my skill set does not fit. (I would not touch java with a bargepole - if that is language fanaticism, so be it). Maybe not code in the language but if something that already does what your client wants exists in Java, would you stay away from it purely because you don't like the language? (e.g. Solr for text indexing and searching) no - as long as there is no need for me to touch the source. I use freemind and josm very extensively. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 15:07 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: let us look at all points of view. In an ideal world, one chooses the best tool for the job at hand. No quarrel. But the world is not ideal. Compromises have to be made (or trade-offs). Given a task one has to take into account deadlines, resources/skills available etc etc. Maybe for a particular webapp Django is overkill - but do I have the time to learn something more suitable (or the ability)? It's sometimes an option to simply use an app already available (e.g. Wordpress for blogging) rather than to go out and build a custom one. If building and deploying (and maintaining) a Django or Flask (or rails for that matter) blogging app takes 6 hours whereas setting up a wordpress blog takes 5 minutes, what would you chose? django - I like to sleep at night. I use apps written in all sorts of languages, but never have and never will use a php app - unless it is set up and supported by someone else and is running on a system for which I am in no way responsible. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 15:51 +0530, satyaakam goswami wrote: django - I like to sleep at night. I use apps written in all sorts of languages, but never have and never will use a php app - unless it is set up and supported by someone else and is running on a system for which I am in no way responsible. why ? any personal bad experience or some technical reasons? many bitter experiences - security is a nightmare for php apps. Take a look at the number of security updates wordpress has per *month* - more than django has had in 6 *years*. http://wordpress-security.net/wordpress-software-security-updates/ --- do you want to live on the edge like this? Most LUG sites run php, maintained by 'experts' - they are regularly spammed or cracked even when the most draconian lockdown/captchas are implemented. Volunteers just do not have the time to spend half their nights applying security patches. quote Important note about updating Themes: If you have made **any** changes to your theme (tweaking things in style.css or changes to the template files), the changes will be overwritten when the theme is updated. Be ready to re-do the changes after updating. unquote what fun! -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 05:28 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: The Ruby Speed Center (which is similar to speed.pypy.org) uses codespeed which is a Python/Django based application[1]. And yeah, not to miss that many python based projects have started using jenkins for CI which is Java based. :) Quite recently, my experience with (good) developers is that everyone is picking up a variety of languages and libraries for different tasks. The choice seem to be with things that stack up well. For e.g using solr for python webapps. let us look at all points of view. In an ideal world, one chooses the best tool for the job at hand. No quarrel. But the world is not ideal. Compromises have to be made (or trade-offs). Given a task one has to take into account deadlines, resources/skills available etc etc. Maybe for a particular webapp Django is overkill - but do I have the time to learn something more suitable (or the ability)? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 08:07 +0800, Senthil Kumaran wrote: Question to you (hypothetical) - You have two choices: a) Choose Pyramid web-framework because the ORM works well the existing database. b) Java project with heavy interaction with database. Which would you likely choose? My bet is a) because it is much easier for a python programmer with django skills to do that than b). Of course, you are free to invent your choices like c) quit and do django elsewhere. I know my limitations - a, if the client agrees or c. But I *have* turned away work where my skill set does not fit. (I would not touch java with a bargepole - if that is language fanaticism, so be it). -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Iterating list of tuples
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 06:37 +, delegb...@dudupay.com wrote: data = [ (10, 25, 18, 17, 10, 12, 26, 5), ] for value in data: if value 5: value = (10, 25, 18, 17, 10, 12, 26, 5) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] getting a business email vendor
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:57 +0530, Vishal wrote: This is Off Topic and nothing related to Python in general...thought of sending here since many industry veterans watch this list. please refrain from such questions in future. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] svg string to pdf
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:40 +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote: You must have mistaken me for someone willing to do your homework for you for free. please watch your tone - this is not ilugd. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] bof
hi, there will be a bof this evening at Koshys, 7 pm onwards. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] bof
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 14:18 +0530, Shashidhar P wrote: Which Koshys ? Richmond town or where? st Marks road and what is bof? come and find out -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] python SVN delete functionality
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 17:19 +0530, Shashidhar P wrote: If end user deletes some files from working copy MANUALLY not using SVN delete, I need to comapare working copy and repository before checkin and make sure that files which are deleted manually from working copy should be deleted from the repository. that is what svn status does. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] python SVN delete functionality
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 17:45 +0530, Shashidhar P wrote: I want to check all the files from working copy to repository if files are missing from working copy and found in repository I need to delete them. Ya SVN Status gives me files added, removed, I mentioned user deletes files manually not using SVN delete. how should I check for deleted files. shown as '!' - svn help status -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Error loading fixtures after adding a contenttype relation
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 22:05 +0530, Amit Sethi wrote: IntegrityError: duplicate key value violates unique constraint django_content_type_app_label_key it means that that particular column is already in the database. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Using south for migration for a django project
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 12:45 +0530, Amit Sethi wrote: Can some one help me out with this . Point to a good tutorial for south or recommend a tool that has worked for them in the past. as mentioned on IRC the easiest way is to write a script and do it manually. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] The myth of free software
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 17:35 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote: Hey, great argument, but I have some riders. Atleast, finally, I think we are on the same page. did you not notice that he was pulling your leg? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [commercial] python/django training
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:48 +0530, Ramdas S wrote: Kenneth as I understand is *offering nothing free*. He is charging* 25,000*for mentoring someone to be a Django/Python developer spending his personal time, energy and sharing his vast experience. He says exercise would take 1-3 months. Personally I feel he's charging low, but I am sure he has his economics right! Introductory offer It *does not in anyway make it a community* effort. Kenneth or anyone in this list has any such notion, or even making any such claims. I am not able to understand where you formed such an opinion that we are passing this off as a community effort. No we are not, and as far as I see there's *commercial in square brackets* in the subject of the mail. and to set the record straight, I have conducted innumerable workshops in python/django (and a whole raft of other topics), usually free, sometimes with accommodation and food provided, at other times even with travel provided and at other times entirely at my own expense. And have mentored very many people (totally free), and none of those people are walking around bare footed. From all this I have learned three things: 1. Quality training is takes up a lot of time and effort - no one can afford to do this free. 2. Unfortunately in our country very few people appreciate things that are free - and even fewer people really make much effort when doing something for free. At the most they will put up a few slides they have shown somewhere else, demo a few things and answer a few questions. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] The myth of free software
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 20:22 +0530, Santosh Rajan wrote: Disclaimer 2. I am not an expert on the subject of free Vs paid. this is obvious - I suggest you stick to things you are an expert on. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
