Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
Hi, On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:23, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. Suggestions for future events (maybe 2010/11(?)) : + Alternatively PyCon-India could be held multiple times in a year, in each city which finds enough volunteers (read critical mass) to get such an event going. + Heard a Colombian researcher (at the national coalition meet last week) mention that they hold a day long event for Libre software across 20 cities all over South America. They do this simultaneously as a Libre s/w event. Am not sure if a Python-only event will scale that well across cities. Anyway, ideas dont cost (not as much as implementing them :)) The PyCon (US) used to accept everyone, including newbies; sometimes non-coders also coming as speakers. They have tutorials targeting non-hard-core programmers. Remember, Python is a language which can be learned within one month (or one week ? ;) +1. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:56, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Best aim for the stars. In any case, I wanted to start us off. I'm not really clear on what a 'proposal' should contain as of now. We should trim down the aims though. Yup, ground events/meets/(un)confs is definitely where the action and (daresay) fun is :) My point was wrt the sponsors POV, who may (or not) come on board in future, especially if promised the stars and left undelivered. Not to suggest this will happen but a smaller set of expectations is easier to achieve. Maybe a stock-taking after the event, if need be ?? I think it should not become a Newbies only thing. People who have been hacking python for a long time should have good reason to come as well as the newbie. true, this also depends on how the tracks/sessions are planned, speakers, etc... which a structured conf has more control over, unlike say an unconference (the analogy is probably not correct since the focus is different for each event). Dedicated meaning that we're not planing to be part of a larger event like foss.in. vielen danke for including low hanging fruit like me :) @Bani : Hi *wave* long time no see :) -- || Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote: Hi, Maybe we should stick to the Wiki for the discussion with maybe weekly reminders here that the discussion is going on there. :) ~Roshan ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:28, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. i would help with the above (and the local media) but wanted to discuss some things on thelist instead of editing the wiki and annoying folks. That would be great. Good ideas. I have a page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. 0. Should'nt this page include the proposed dates (September 4,5,6 (Baiju M)) or is that still under discussion ?' Yes , we need to finalise the dates. I guess we'll take it for a discussion on the IRC . irc.freenode.org. #BangPypers 1. The Aims listed on the Draft page are huge in terms of scope and would take more than one conference to achieve. Heh. Its just a two day old wiki draft. give it some time to mature. pythonists are very energetic. wait and watch its gonna be awesome. 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? Usually the Original Pycon is given to user groups , who bid for it. we'll BangPypers isnt still a society. So we dont hold an authority .But we are intent to have a 3 day event. atleast I'm a +1 for a 3 day event. As long as people hold the event to spread python, I'm not complaining. The ProposalForPyConIndia wiki page has a community discussion section with varying opinions. Before editing I wanted to clarify the following: 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki page. Has that changed? 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok technical concepts?) Thats an interesting point. learn how to program ;-) It pays to be a python programmer. We need to discuss it over IRC. Ofcourse its open to everybody. Unless we plan to hire bouncers to kick people out after taking their entry fee. another discussion , Entry Fee , is also a topic for discussion. +1 for the low budget, sans swag concept but some clarity on what is the scope of the event, since its being held here for the first time, would be a lot nicer. The conf planning page was a nice read :) so how about a volunteers page ? Lets Keep it volunteer run, low budget and Honest. So everybody can participate. Lets make it happen folks. -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Saturday 28 February 2009 12:07:46 VidA wrote: 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok technical concepts?) dedicated to python - no other languages -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Ramdas S ram...@developeriq.com wrote: Good! Let's keep the momentum going I propose that we have a meeting soon to discuss this. Updated this with a Community Discussion section. Please enter individual comments there, so that we don't modify the main body. Later on we can integrate to the main proposal if required. I think if this has to work, a group has to produce something like a formal proposal on what the conference is about. A writeup on the goals and agenda of the proposed conference is essential for approaching sponsors. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] I think if this has to work, a group has to produce something like a formal proposal on what the conference is about. A writeup on the goals and agenda of the proposed conference is essential for approaching sponsors. I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Friday 27 February 2009 20:00:18 Baiju M wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can participate easily. and commit early and commit often -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
You can start by announcing it in 1) All User Groups -- like django, TG, Pylons, etc. There are a few hundred user groups.. It is viral. 2) Bloggers can start blogging about it. 3) We can have a few magazines as Media sponsors. We can get the ads bartered. 4) Target LUGs. There are lots of Python fans there. 5) Get a few high profile bloggers in India and abroad to write about it. Personal requests will help. 6) Its extremely important to get the big cos which has some interest in Python involved. say Google. They can help evangelizing the conference. 7) If we are officially Pycon India, then don't worry, there will be automatic links out of most Python related sites. You can bet that anyone who's interested in Python will be visiting one such places in the next 5-6 months. All the above steps will give you 99% of the target audience. I think all these activities will cost absolutely nothing expect some efforts from your home/office in your spare time. Ramdas On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Sibtey Mehdi sibt...@infotechsw.comwrote: How do you promote the pyCon-India? I think the people who are working in Bangalore or subscribed to the bangpypers know about this but what about the others python programmers working in different locations in India. Sibtey Mehdi On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. I would suggest to use wiki for writing draft proposal. So, others can participate easily. and commit early and commit often Good ideas. I have a page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. Please take a look. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:28, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing the proposal and talking to companies. i would help with the above (and the local media) but wanted to discuss some things on thelist instead of editing the wiki and annoying folks. Good ideas. I have a page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on. 0. Should'nt this page include the proposed dates (September 4,5,6 (Baiju M)) or is that still under discussion ? 1. The Aims listed on the Draft page are huge in terms of scope and would take more than one conference to achieve. 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? The ProposalForPyConIndia wiki page has a community discussion section with varying opinions. Before editing I wanted to clarify the following: 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki page. Has that changed? 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok technical concepts?) +1 for the low budget, sans swag concept but some clarity on what is the scope of the event, since its being held here for the first time, would be a lot nicer. The conf planning page was a nice read :) so how about a volunteers page ? -- || Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote: 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki page. Has that changed? 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok technical concepts?) The PyCon (US) used to accept everyone, including newbies; sometimes non-coders also coming as speakers. They have tutorials targeting non-hard-core programmers. Remember, Python is a language which can be learned within one month (or one week ? ;) Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Ramdas S ram...@developeriq.com wrote: You can start by announcing it in 1) All User Groups -- like django, TG, Pylons, etc. There are a few hundred user groups.. It is viral. [..] All the above steps will give you 99% of the target audience. I think all these activities will cost absolutely nothing expect some efforts from your home/office in your spare time. These are excellent Ramdas. I will put them up on the wiki. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM, (श्री) Sreekanth B gnuy...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote: 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events? +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years. In short the event can move to different city every year ! We can discuss about the next city on 3rd day of PyCon India 2009 :) Regards, Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers