[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute music for Holy Week / The Book for Lute
Dear Lute enthusiasts, I would like to share with you the next parts from the Book for Lute project. One of them from the last week is a Menuet by S. L. Weiss ([1]http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-menuet/) - Weiss SW 79.4 / SW 7.5. The newest piece is probably connected with The Passion time called Jesu du wirst jetzt verrathen ([2]http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-jesu-du-wirst/). It could be connected with the Stations of the Cross from Gruessau: A kiss by Judas. Both pieces performed in the old Gruessau Cistercian provostry in Bad Warmbrunn (today Polish Cieplice |l+-skie) by Jan Ei 3/4mao/. Grzegorz References 1. http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-menuet/ 2. http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-jesu-du-wirst/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Tombeau de Mazarin
Dear all, did you hear Tombeau de Mazarin performed by Jan Čižmář? You can listen to it together with short prelude placed before Tombeau and also read short text about it: http://blog.polona.pl/2015/03/ksiega-na-lutnie-prelude-tombeau/ This is the part of The Book for Lute - project connected with PL-Wn Mus. 396 Cim. lute manuscript. Grzegorz -- Lute in Silesia and in Poland http://www.lute.pl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] The Book for Lute, Part 2: Gavotte
Dear baroque lute friends, there is the next part from the Book for Lute: Gavotte. This time a piece is longer than the last Prelude:) You can watch and read it on [1]http://blog.polona.pl/2015/02/ksiega-na-lutnie-gavotte/ or on [2]http://lute.pl/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid Itemid!. Anna Wiktoria Swoboda is playing. Grzegorz References 1. http://blog.polona.pl/2015/02/ksiega-na-lutnie-gavotte/ 2. http://lute.pl/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid%20Itemid! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Book for Lute / Livre du Luth
Dear lute lovers, after the Introduction from the cycle of The Book for Lute connected with lute manuscript from Silesia with popular title page Livre du Luth, you can watch and listen to the first movies from this manuscript. It was recorded in the Ballroom of the former Schaffgotsch Palace in Cieplice Slaskie (Bad Warmbrunn). A short prelude is performed by great lutenist Anna Wiktoria Swoboda from Cracow: [1]http://blog.polona.pl/2015/02/prelude/ You can find more information also on the [2]http://www.lute.pl Grzegorz References 1. http://blog.polona.pl/2015/02/prelude/ 2. http://www.lute.pl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute in Silesia and in Poland
Dear Lute Friends, I would like to invite you to new lute web page Lute in Silesia and in Poland [1]www.lute.pl I recommend you the newest project The Book for Lute connected with so-called Schaffgotsch' manuscript (PL-Wn Mus. 396 Cim.) from Gruessau collection. Best wishes Grzegorz References 1. http://www.lute.pl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] CD recording from Lute Manuscripts of Krzeszów/Grüssau Cistercians
Dear lute friends, I would like to share with you a good news that music from the Lute Tablatures Collection of Krzeszow Cistercians from 18th century was just recorded in Krzeszow monastery for CD recording. Polish TV from Wroc^3aw prepared short report about it and published them during the main News edition called Fakty. I hope so that hole project will be finished until November or in a half of December. Musicians: Jan Ei 3/4mao/: baroque lute, baroque guitar Marta Kratochvilova: traverso flute Martyna Pastuszka: violin Julia Karpeta: viola da gamba Grzegorz Joachimiak: originator, artistic and organizing director of this project See to 10.20 min [1]http://www.tvp.pl/wroclaw/informacyjne/fakty/wideo/27092013-g2200/12 536840 Best wishes Grzegorz -- Grzegorz Joachimiak Department of Musicology University of Wroclaw http://www.muzykologia.uni.wroc.pl References 1. http://www.tvp.pl/wroclaw/informacyjne/fakty/wideo/27092013-g2200/12536840 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] The Trail of Lutenists from Silesia - a cycle of concerts
Dear Lute friends, if you are going to Poland at the beginning of October, you have to come to Silesia. During October 3-6, 2013 Paul Beier will perform lute concerts in rare places: the Castle and Museum of the Silesian Piasts in Brzeg (Brieg), The Museum of Natural History (previous library of Schaffgotsch's family) in Jelenia Gora-Cieplice (Bad Warmbrunn), The Copper Museum - Knight Academy in Legnica (Liegnitz) and St. Christopher's Church in Wroc^3aw (Breslau). More information you can find here: [1]http://www.gitaraplus.pl/project/the-trail-of-lutenists-from-silesia / If you would like to ask about something connected with this project you can use this e-mail address. Best wishes Grzegorz References 1. http://www.gitaraplus.pl/project/the-trail-of-lutenists-from-silesia/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute music in Wroclaw (Breslau)
Dear lute friends, I would like to share with you some memories and reports about Lute Weekend during 15th Wroclaw Guitar Festival in Wroclaw (Breslau), 20-21.10.2012. You can watch this and listen to some music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfCoocO8qCUfeature=youtu.be Lute things start from 8'25''. Unfortunetely interviews are in Polish but you can also listen to music which was performed as a world premiere in Aula Leopoldina the main Hall of University of Wroclaw. Have fun Grzegorz Joachimiak To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Tomasz Jeż: About the Provenance of the Lute Tablatures from Grüssau
Dear Ralf and lute friends, thanks for this link. This article was also published in the *Musicology Today* Journal (2009) and it was presentend in 2006 during the 12th Baroque Music Congress in Warsaw. Some information from this article are not actual now but of course there is really interesting and important. In the near future it will be much more big work about this collection. I promise:) BTW: One mystic musical cycle from this collection which is talking about by Tomasz Jez will be performed during the Lute Weekend in Wroclaw (Breslau) on 21st October 2012 in Aula Leopoldina - the special main sale of University of Wroclaw near the Jesuit Church and the tomb of Angelus Silesius. You are welcome in the capital of lute music this part of Europe! http://gitara.wroclaw.pl/index.php?id=11lang=_en Best wishes Grzegorz Dnia 18-09-2012 o godz. 20:19 Ralf Bachmann napisał(a): [1]http://uw.academia.edu/tomaszjez/Papers/1490383/Some_Remarks_About_t he_Provenance_of_the_Lute_Tablatures_from_Grussau_Krzeszow Nice to know a little more about the Warsaw W2001 ... W2011, etc. tablatures ;-) (BTW, the link goes from http:// .. to .. Krzeszow, and if that does't work, just google the title of the paper ...) -- References 1. http://uw.academia.edu/tomaszjez/Papers/1490383/Some_Remarks_About_the_Provenance_of_the_Lute_Tablatures_from_Grussau_Krzeszow To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Grzegorz Joachimiak Department of Musicology University of Wrocław http://www.muzykologia.uni.wroc.pl
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Arpeggio question
Dear Bernd, Christopher, Martin, Andreas, if I properly remember Karl-Ernst Schroeder wrote the article about the Sonata A-dur S-C (SW) 47 by S. L. Weiss and the intriguing fantasie from the so-called Krzeszow lute tablatures collection: PL-WRu 60019 Muz. (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2002). This piece is also in two others manuscripts from this collection: PL-Wu RM 4140 (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2008) and PL-Wu RM 4141 (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2009). For the other parts of this piece you have to see to the famous D-Dl2841-V-1 manuscript and to the SBB Berlin Mus. ms. Bach P 226 - part for cembalo. This piece was lately very interesting also for Jurek Zak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85kB6rWPNQ Best wishes from Vienna Lute Festival! Grzegorz Dnia 17-05-2012 o godz. 13:45 Christopher Wilke napisał(a): Bernd, This is a tricky thing. Usually, I try to find a pattern written out in some other lute solo. Karl-Ernst Schroeder did a very good survey of the ones found in Weiss sonatas. (I don't remember the source off the top of my head.) I find a strict pattern to be uninteresting, however, and so I occasionally vary the base pattern for effect when the progression is interesting or when there's an especially dissonant chord. I usually keep a consistent number of notes in each chord. Who knows if this is really correct? Many times the arpeggio sections are unmeasured and the very fact that a pattern was not specified on the page may imply that a more rhapsodic and personally idiosyncratic approach was intended. For progressions in which the number of notes varies, you could always make a patchwork of patterns utilizing each grouping from various existing solos, such as Schroeder compiled. Or you could follow your own muse and see where it takes you. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Thu, 5/17/12, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Arpeggio question To: Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu List l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, baroque Lutelist baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 5:17 AM Dear all, sometimes we find in baroque lute music chains of chords, notated evenly as it seems and with the mark arpeggio or arp. Now, if the chain looked like this (with n being the number of notes in the chord) 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 or 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 one would think of some arpeggio scheme to use it in such a passage. But what the number of notes in the chords looks like this 5 5 5 5 5 5 3 3 3 2 3 3 4 6 6 5 4 4 4 or so? What would you do? Thank you for your hints! best regards Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Grzegorz Joachimiak Department of Musicology University of Wrocław http://www.muzykologia.uni.wroc.pl
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Arpeggio question
Thank you Bernd. The Festival is starting on 19.30 so I hope it will be successfully on concerts, lectures, meetings as well as a good fun. Grzegorz Dnia 17-05-2012 o godz. 16:47 Bernd Haegemann napisał(a): Oh! Best regards to the Vienna lute festival and everybody attending there! I hope you have a good time! Holdrikafeitzel , Grüß Gott and Jodeldididudeldö! Am 17.05.2012 16:42, schrieb Grzegorz Joachimiak: Dear Bernd, Christopher, Martin, Andreas, if I properly remember Karl-Ernst Schroeder wrote the article about the Sonata A-dur S-C (SW) 47 by S. L. Weiss and the intriguing fantasie from the so-called Krzeszow lute tablatures collection: PL-WRu 60019 Muz. (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2002). This piece is also in two others manuscripts from this collection: PL-Wu RM 4140 (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2008) and PL-Wu RM 4141 (olim in Wroclaw as Mf. 2009). For the other parts of this piece you have to see to the famous D-Dl2841-V-1 manuscript and to the SBB Berlin Mus. ms. Bach P 226 - part for cembalo. This piece was lately very interesting also for Jurek Zak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85kB6rWPNQ Best wishes from Vienna Lute Festival! Grzegorz Dnia 17-05-2012 o godz. 13:45 Christopher Wilke napisał(a): Bernd, This is a tricky thing. Usually, I try to find a pattern written out in some other lute solo. Karl-Ernst Schroeder did a very good survey of the ones found in Weiss sonatas. (I don't remember the source off the top of my head.) I find a strict pattern to be uninteresting, however, and so I occasionally vary the base pattern for effect when the progression is interesting or when there's an especially dissonant chord. I usually keep a consistent number of notes in each chord. Who knows if this is really correct? Many times the arpeggio sections are unmeasured and the very fact that a pattern was not specified on the page may imply that a more rhapsodic and personally idiosyncratic approach was intended. For progressions in which the number of notes varies, you could always make a patchwork of patterns utilizing each grouping from various existing solos, such as Schroeder compiled. Or you could follow your own muse and see where it takes you. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Thu, 5/17/12, Bernd Haegemannb...@symbol4.de wrote: From: Bernd Haegemannb...@symbol4.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Arpeggio question To: Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Listl...@cs.dartmouth.edu, baroque Lutelistbaroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 5:17 AM Dear all, sometimes we find in baroque lute music chains of chords, notated evenly as it seems and with the mark arpeggio or arp. Now, if the chain looked like this (with n being the number of notes in the chord) 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 or 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 one would think of some arpeggio scheme to use it in such a passage. But what the number of notes in the chords looks like this 5 5 5 5 5 5 3 3 3 2 3 3 4 6 6 5 4 4 4 or so? What would you do? Thank you for your hints! best regards Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Grzegorz Joachimiak Department of Musicology University of Wrocław http://www.muzykologia.uni.wroc.pl -- Grzegorz Joachimiak Department of Musicology University of Wrocław http://www.muzykologia.uni.wroc.pl
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?
Dear Bernhard and Markus, I would like to add that I searched also others engraving portraits of Weiss by Folino. I think that very interesting things are so-called independent engraving (not included in Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften ..., Vol. 1, 1765). These informations wrote in Singer's catalogue (H. W. Singer, Allgemeiner Bildniskatalog, Leipzig 1934, no. 95597). One copy was/is (?) in Vienna National Library, two copies were/are in Dresden, one copy was in Breslau/Wroclaw-Stadtbibliothek Breslau (now in Wroclaw University Library) and one (no mentioned by Singer) is in Paris National Library. Probably an engraving from Stadtbibliothek Breslau is actually in Ossolinski National Institute, Department of Prints (Graphic). Look at http://www2.oss.wroc.pl/index.php/english/ (there are only my presumption based on the same possessor's name who had collection of engravings from Stadtbibliothek Breslau. Engraving preserved in Ossolineum contains in paper no provenance sign, so I can not be sure). These engravings were obtained and than sold after 2nd World War by Mr. Zdzislaw Szczyglowski from Raciborz (germ. Ratibor). Department of Prints (Graphic) in Wroclaw University Library also bought graphics in auction from Mr. Szczyglowski from Raciborz so I thought that probably there was the same person who sold in auction independent engraving with Weiss's portrait to Ossolineum. Actually in Wroclaw University Library we could find only index card connected of engraving with Weiss's portrait from Stadtbibliothek Breslau. I wrote short article about these things (cf. semi-annual Polish magazine about baroque history, literature, art: Barok 17 (2010) no. 2, pp. 97-105: http://www.neriton.apnet.pl/product_info.php?cPath=47products_id=643 ). In Ossolinski National Institute I found others engraving by Folino. In Warsaw Gallery called Na Tlumackiem existed among others things two portraits of musicians by Denner: J. A. Hasse and G. F. Haendel. Unfortunately this gallery actually is not exist and we do not know where is this collection now (A. Ryszkiewicz, Kolekcjonerzy i milosnicy, Warszawa 1981). By Folino in Ossolinski National Institute, Department of Prints in Wroclaw (Ossolineum) I found also similar manner of Folino's engraving technique like portrait of Weiss: e.g. portrait of Stanislaw August with Ciolek coat of arms, bust of Adam Naruszewicz and Maciej Kazimierz Sarbiewski (follow by medallion from 1770). Best wishes Grzegorz Dnia 10-07-2011 o godz. 22:04 Markus Lutz napisał(a): Dear Bernhard, no there isn't any further portrait of Weiss, only the picture by Denner and the engraving of this portrait. It's true, that Hoffmann writes about three, but the engraving in the Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften ..., Vol. 1, 1765, is the engraving by Folin! So he is wrong. On the following site you will find a digital copy of the complete volume: http://scout.ub.uni-potsdam.de/fea/digbib/view?did=c1:209p=1 But the quality of the copy, especially of the engraving is very poor. Also on http://www.tabulatura.com you will find a better copy of it. Kenneth Sparr writes there: Silvius Leopold Weiss. Copper engraving [1765] by Bartolomeo Folino [1730-after 1808] , after a painting (c. 1740), now lost, by Balthasar Denner [1685-1749]. This engraving (a copy of which is in the author's collection) was included in the first volume of Neuen Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften und freyen Künste, Leipzig 1765. The reasons for dating the original painting to c. 1740 is that it shows Weiss in his mature years and that Denner in 1740 also portrayed Johann Adolf Hasse, who was the leader of the court orchestra at Dresden. It is hardly likely that the engraving was made before 1750 as Weiss died that year and Folino was but 20 years old. Folino was born in Venice and died in Warsaw. Best regards Markus Am 10.07.2011 18:06, schrieb Bernhard Hofstoetter: Dear lute netters, Carl J. A. Hoffmann's The musicians/composers of Silesia (Die Tonkünstler Schlesiens), published in Breslau in 1830, contains an entry on Weiss, both Silvius and Siegmund. The last two sentences in the article on S.L. Weiss, in my translation, read as follows: His picture is in the library of fine arts. There is also another one, in octavo format, which has been drawn by Denner and engraved by Folin. (German original: Sein Bildniß befindet sich in der Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften. Auch giebt es noch ein anderes in Oktav, gezeichnet von Denner, gestochen von Folin.) It seems to me that the second sentence refers to the well-known engraving by Folin which is based on the lost painting/drawing by Denner. The first sentence, however, apparently refers to another portrait by a painter whose name is not given. Is Hoffmann the only source suggesting that such other portrait ever existed? Can anyone
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?
I forgot add that this independent engraving from Wroclaw'a collection is exactly the same portrait than object in Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften... I now also that many peoples cut graphics from books and than sold. But for me were interesting objects which had or still have call numbers in libraries as work by Folino as independent engraving. About format, for example engraving with Weiss's portrait from Ossolinski National Institute Department of Prints has dimension: 157 x 94 millimeters. From Stadtbibliothek Breslau's index card I read that this engraving had a little other dimension: 9,7 x 15,4 cm. Probably base for dimension was edge of pressure and edges of wide probably were cut. There is not too impossible that there are two different engravings. GJ Dnia 10-07-2011 o godz. 22:04 Markus Lutz napisał(a): Dear Bernhard, no there isn't any further portrait of Weiss, only the picture by Denner and the engraving of this portrait. It's true, that Hoffmann writes about three, but the engraving in the Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften ..., Vol. 1, 1765, is the engraving by Folin! So he is wrong. On the following site you will find a digital copy of the complete volume: http://scout.ub.uni-potsdam.de/fea/digbib/view?did=c1:209p=1 But the quality of the copy, especially of the engraving is very poor. Also on http://www.tabulatura.com you will find a better copy of it. Kenneth Sparr writes there: Silvius Leopold Weiss. Copper engraving [1765] by Bartolomeo Folino [1730-after 1808] , after a painting (c. 1740), now lost, by Balthasar Denner [1685-1749]. This engraving (a copy of which is in the author's collection) was included in the first volume of Neuen Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften und freyen Künste, Leipzig 1765. The reasons for dating the original painting to c. 1740 is that it shows Weiss in his mature years and that Denner in 1740 also portrayed Johann Adolf Hasse, who was the leader of the court orchestra at Dresden. It is hardly likely that the engraving was made before 1750 as Weiss died that year and Folino was but 20 years old. Folino was born in Venice and died in Warsaw. Best regards Markus Am 10.07.2011 18:06, schrieb Bernhard Hofstoetter: Dear lute netters, Carl J. A. Hoffmann's The musicians/composers of Silesia (Die Tonkünstler Schlesiens), published in Breslau in 1830, contains an entry on Weiss, both Silvius and Siegmund. The last two sentences in the article on S.L. Weiss, in my translation, read as follows: His picture is in the library of fine arts. There is also another one, in octavo format, which has been drawn by Denner and engraved by Folin. (German original: Sein Bildniß befindet sich in der Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften. Auch giebt es noch ein anderes in Oktav, gezeichnet von Denner, gestochen von Folin.) It seems to me that the second sentence refers to the well-known engraving by Folin which is based on the lost painting/drawing by Denner. The first sentence, however, apparently refers to another portrait by a painter whose name is not given. Is Hoffmann the only source suggesting that such other portrait ever existed? Can anyone shed light on this matter? Bernhard To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Markus Lutz Schulstraße 11 88422 Bad Buchau Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Tombeau de Mazarin
Dear Bernhard, thank you for your copy from Vienna ms. I sow that you changed a little bar 5: you wrote a separee instead appogiatura from above and omitted a sound c (6d). And I see that you also agree with among others Thomas Mace's words from Musick's Monument and with idea of hermeneutics. Bests Grzegorz Dnia 3-06-2011 o godz. 9:41 B. Fischer napisał(a): Dear Mathias, Dear Grzegorz, Please find attached my copy of the Tombeau de Mazarin from the Vienna manuscript MS 17706. I belief, that all the ornaments reflect the private taste of the lute player. One and the same piece can be found in many manuscripts and each time the ornaments are different. So there was / still is a broad range of freedom to interpret especially French baroque lute pieces. This is also note in several forewords and introductions to lute manuscripts from the 17 and 18 century. So I would not look for the one and only true interpretation of ornaments. Kind regards, Bernhard, Vienna. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Grzegorz Joachimiak Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2011 05:55 An: Mathias Roesel Cc: Lute List; baroque-lute mailing-list Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Tombeau de Mazarin Hi Matthias, I recently also compared this pieces. Unfortunatelly I have not all copies of manuscripts from the list of concordances (http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2type=mslang=deums=PL-Wn396page=44v) . But I checked this pieces and compared with A-Wn17706, ms. Saizenay, GB-Ob ms. G.616 and D-ROu ms. Mus. Saec. XVII.18.53.1A. I think piece from so-called ms. Schaffgotsch has a lot of errors. There concern mainly intervals, absence of some letters, and differents of rhythm. But you asked about ornamnets. I thought about comma ornaments. In PL-Wn 396 Cim. they are not look the same in my opinion. So maybe comma ornament with bigger curve (tunny) are appogiaturas (from above) and comma with smaller tunny are mordents (also from above). But there is also a comma with smaller tunny and with crosswise short line. It could be a mordent from below. But your interpretation about melody line is very interesting. There is more fascinating when we pay attention that this manuscript was dedicated to Cistercian monk (Father Hermann Kniebandl). For me is interesting too an chordal conclusion in Schaffgotsch ms. In any other sources I did not find ending like here. And this chords have all of component (prime-third-fifth). By the way one chord has a mistake in bass. But this is an uniquelly cadance when we compare this piece with other examples. Bests Grzegorz Dnia 2-06-2011 o godz. 0:28 Mathias Roesel napisał(a): Dear everybody, is someone familiar with the Tombeau de Mazarin? Pls find sources and concordances at http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=2type=mslang=deums=PL-Wn396page=44v In PL-Wn396, fol 44v, there are three different ornaments, viz. comma, cross and half-moon below. The cross once appears with an unstopped course. So, if the comma means an appogiatura from above, the comma necessarily means a trill starting from the upper note. Then the half-moon probably means an appogiatura from below. If that is so, my impression is that the melody is intentionally disfigured not only in Wn 396 but also in A-Krems79 (#164 on fol. 89v), A-Wn17706 (fol. 17v) and even in Saizenay (#167). Also in this piece, there are tediously repeated phrases which belong to the Italian style of baroque composing, but would be carefully avoided in French baroque lute music. Is it supposable that this tombeau is not a tombstone of beloved memory, but a mockery, rather, aimed at the pet-hated Italian cardinal who overcame the uprising of the Fronde? Any ideas? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Monsieur de Montarcis
Hi Nicolas, few trace about connection with Montarcis you could find in lute manuscripts: F-Pn Rés. Vmb. ms. 7 (Ms. Barbe), p 104 [La Montarcis de Gautier]; F-Pn Rés. Vmc ms. 61 (ms. preserved before in A. Polinski's library) f. 48v [Loure]; F-Pn Ms. Rés Vm7 375 p. 27 [Double] look also to: 1. CLFDGa N°7a 2. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=deuid=2type=mssmss=nam=Montarkey=msnam=comp= I do not know another sources by Monsieur de Montarcis music like e.g. printed lute book. Best wishes Grzegorz Dnia 18-03-2011 o godz. 13:51 Nicolás Valencia napisał(a): Hi, In the introduction to Livre de tablature des pieces de luth, Denis Gaultier mentions a Monsieur de Montarcis, recommending his books on lute performance. He says one of his books would be published soon and one other had been published recently. According to The New Grove Dictionary, Montarcis was a Gaultier's pupil who completed Livre de tablature after his death. Is there any other data about him and/or his books? Nicolas -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Re: The timing of A-KR ms. L 83?
Hi Arto and rest of lute-gang, I would like to finish my work as quick as possible. But before I have to go to few libraries to do a search query, among other things to Vienna, Prague, Paris and Stockholm. To Vienna I will go on March, rest of things, we will see. Maybe somebody lives in Vienna from this list? In published issue I will consider when I finished, but I think it should be no problem with availability in the Net. Have a nice day Grzegorz Dnia 10-01-2011 o godz. 12:14 wi...@cs.helsinki.fi napisał(a): Grzegorz, thanks for your very interesting information! When are you going to finish your study about Silesian lute music? Sounds interesting. Will it be available in the Net? All the best, Arto On 09/01/11 21:09, Grzegorz Joachimiak wrote: Hi lute-gang, Arthur gave the most important information about ms. L 83. But if we go a bit deeper, we could get something more of course. I would like to add something to Arto#8217;s question. Kremsmünster baroque lute collection could be more interesting when we compare them with other similar collection like e.g. Silesian lute tablature collection. I will try to do it in my study. But Arto asked about date of ms. L 83. In#8220;RISM B VII by W. Boetticher we could find information that this tablature comes from end of 17th c. to 1705. (p. 159). Ernst Pohlmann in#8220;Laute, Theorbe, Chitarrone... wrote ca. 1700 (p. 145). Monique Rollin wrote in catalogue by Meyer (ed.) that Ms. L 83 could comes from ca. 1680-1705. But Rudolf Flotzinger in#8220;Die Lautentabulaturen des Stiftes Kremnmünster (thematic catalog) dated ca. 1697. So we could see that is not clear. Maybe study on the watermark would be more precisly. I will try checked. Flotzinger wrote also that content from this volume is connected with war between France and 2nd coalition (Austria, Spain, England, Netherland, Sabaudia). [The Frenchmen won on shore (the Fleurus 1690, Neerwinden and Marsagli 1696) and even forced count of Sabaudia to do of separate transaction Peace of Turin (1696). However an Englishman, admiral Russel ruined French fleet on the See, near the Cape La Hougue (1692). So he destroyed French imagine of invasion to England. Louis XIV had to meet half way because he had no more military and finance power. The Peace of Rijswijk (1697) brought kept Strasbourg, but gave back a Lotharingia]. Second issue is about monk-lutenists. We know now that not all of volumes so-called Grussau lute tablatures did create by Cistercian monk Kniebandl himself [Franz Karl-names given on the baptized. But in this sources we could find sometimes monograms as H.K. which I think it could be Hermann Kniebandl]. But two manuscripts were surely dedicated to him: PL-WRu 60019 Muz. (olim Mf. 2002, Lautenbuch 2) and PL-Wn 396 Cim. (K. 44 from Schaffgotsch#8217;s Library in Cieplice-Bad Warmbrun, near Jelenia Góra-Hirschebrg). Surely we have at least one more monk which could made something in this collection. It is somebody with monogram W.B. but I don#8217;t know yet who it is. Maybe somebody knows who could it be? Probably this problem is connected with modesty and humility of monks to recognize oneself in the lute books (cf. Flotzinger, op. cit., p. 36). So they ciphered the name as good as monk Fischer who used name Pecheur or#8220;Sünder=Sinner. This guy is connected with our ms. L 83. About second, Benedictine monk-lutenist, father Johann Kaspar Ferdinand Fischer, we know a few biographical information from work by Altmann Kellner (also Benedictine),#8220;Musikgeschichte des Stiftes Kremsmünster nach den Quellen dargestellt (Kassel and Basle, 1956). He wrote that Fischer was born 1652 in Kuchl, near Salzburg and died in 1725 (probably also in Salzburg). In 1677 he started study of theology. In 1681 he came back to Salzburg where received a holy order as priest. Next to, he was a Professor in Gymnasium which than took his leadership. In 1693 he did take over many books from several churches and through 32 years stayed there to rest of life. The third, Benedictine monk-lutenist could be Iwan Jelinek (1683-1759). His pieces have written into Ms. IV. E. 36 (National Library in Prague). It is dated to 1712. This is also very interesting lute manuscripts collection where we could find inscription:#8220;Jvani Jelinek Bohemi/ monasterii S. Joannis sub Rupe/ Sacerdotis jubilati/ Anno suae aetatis 76 sepulti/ die 26 Decb 1759 mortui/ in nova crypta a Rissimo D. D. Aemiliano Kotterowsky/ Abbate/ in antiqua Ecclesia 1712 facta. Best wishes Grzegorz Dnia 9-01-2011 o godz. 7:32 A. J. Ness napisał(a): There is a through study of the KremsmĂźnster manuscript by Rudolf Flotzinger*. Of the nine manucripts of lute music, MS L83, was partially copied by Scribe E, the Abbot, Ferdinand Fischer (d. 1711), who seems to have incuded some of his own pieces
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: music by Count Bergen
Thanks for reply and many informations. So we don't have yet audio recordings with music by Bergen (Pergen). Did someone see Austrian lute manuscripts? Are there autograps of Bergen in Vienna, Ebenthal and Goettweig manuscripts or copies? G. Dnia 22-10-2010 o godz. 16:04 Bernd Haegemann napisał(a): I know that the question is about recordings, but as far as tablature is concerned Bergen, (Pergen) Ferdinand Graf von, Three lute suites in French tablature are preserved in the Vienna National Library, Ms. Suppl. Mus. 1078, ca 1740. you'll find that one here http://jdf.luth.pagesperso-orange.fr/Musiques/Les_manuscrits/Vienne/Les_manuscrits_de_Vienne.htm#Volume_3 Some of these lute pieces are also found in Ebenthal, Grafen Go`ss'sche Primogenitur-Fideikommiss-Bibliothek, ca. 1730-40, and in G=9Attweig, Benediktinerstiftsbibliothek, Musikarchiv, ca. 1740. there is more: http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=deuid=2type=mssmss=nam=key=msnam=comp=Bergen best regards Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Hans Neeman Photo
Dear friends, this photo surely is in JLSA (1979) vol. 12: The Resurrection of the Lute in Twentieth Century Germeny by Kurt Rottmann, pp. 67-72. I have this article. Let me know who needs this text I would send to private e-mail box. Grzegorz Dnia 8-10-2010 o godz. 19:11 sterling price napisał(a): Well I found the photo of Hans Neeman and his semi-tone device. I scanned it so if anyone wants to see it let me know. Still not sure where I copied it from... Sterling - Original Message From: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 8:07:20 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Semi-Tone Device Some more info about the semi tone device. The base is made of maple stained black. The nut is lignum vitae as well a the smaller nut which actually raises or 'frets' the course. Hide glue is used. Also I am looking for the photo I have of Hans Neeman. I think it was from an old LSA quarterly or journal. Does anyone know which one? Sterling - Original Message From: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 5:30:25 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] New Semi-Tone Device Dear all-- I have just created a new semi-tone device for a Jauck type baroque lute. This allows me to change the pitch of bass strings by a half step without tuning. I can go from say e-flat minor to A-major in just a few seconds with complete stability. A similar semi-tone device is seen on the 1732 lute by J.H. Goldt,(formerly in the VA) of course I don't know when it was added. Also Hans Neeman and his associates used semi-tone devices on all their baroque lutes including bass rider lutes in the 1930s. (This I know from a photograph of Neeman and his lutes). If anyone is interested I can send pics of my new device. Sterling To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Baroque German lute sources
Dear Oskar, I think that you should take cognize book by Per Kjetl Farstad: German Galant Lute Music in the 18th Century, Goteborg 2000. Very helpful would be preface to edition by Weiss, Reusner and others music. List of articles and elementary books you find in http://www.slweiss.com/ (Literature). Many important articles are place in JLSA. By the way I'm working about baroque lute music in Silesia and among other things I'm interested in Reusner, Weiss, Baron, Kropfgans, Hagen, Falckenhagen and rest of lute Mafia in Silesia. When you finished your article may I please to send me some link or copy of your publication? Grzegorz Dnia 13-04-2010 o godz. 2:47 Oskar De Mari napisał(a): dear list, I'm doing my honours thesis on the developments that led to a German Lute school - post-30 years war french lute, through the Reusners etc, Conradi, to Weiss and beyond. I would realyl appreciate some help in the form of any relavant books you can think of I've got Baron obviously, and Ledbetter on French stuff, and a host of general baroque books. Are there any studies of the lute in this period? Any Weiss Biographies out there? any published articles on baroque german lute and later styles? this sort of thing would really help! thanks sincerely, Oskar __ Looking for a hot date? [1]View photos of singles in your area! -- References 1. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Intabulated Chorals
Hello Ralf, I would like to agree with your opinion about mentioned sources. I would like also draw yours attention to silesian lute tablatures (now mainly part are kept at the University of Warsaw Library) are arouse in my interesting. I'm preparing Ph.D. thesis about this tablatures and I hope it will be also helpful as Beckman's work. I think some conections between Cistersian, Jesuits, bishops (e.g. Neuburg) with many patrons from Silesia, their music group and of course with S.L. Weiss, are fascinating and research about this issues are necessary. This culture conext is very interestng. I suppose this work will be important for research of Weiss's work and his life. The history of music in Central European, especially Silesia, included many lute players in baroque era (Reusner-father and son, family of Weiss, family of Kropfgans, LeSage de Richee and others), many conections with King August II, Polsh Princess and others, are necessary. About Warsaw W2009, W2011 I think there are contain a quite original and plaisant repertoire. Best wishes Grzegorz Dnia 2-04-2010 o godz. 21:33 Ralf Bachmann Fricke napisał(a): Hello friends, A few years ago we discussed briefly the interesting fact that there are lots of choral intabulations for baroque lute out there, like Reusner: 100 Geistliche Melodien, Sciurus: Canzoni devote, Falckenhagen: erstes dutzend christlicher Gesnge, Warsaw W2009,W2011, Thibault I Weiss a Rome, etc. Well, Gary Dean Beckman, B.A.; M.A., wrote a thesis with the title The Sacred Lute: Intabulated Chorales from Luthers Age to the beginnings of Pietism that can be downloaded at [1]http://www.lib.utexas.edu/etd/d/2007/beckmang19812/beckmang19812.pdf in case you want to check the analysis he does of Reusner: 100 Geistliche Melodien with a facsimile, have a look at Luca Manasseros page [2]http://liuti.manassero.net/ Very interesting must have been hard times without TV, radio or Internet ;-) Best wishes, Ralf __ Con Hotmail hay una forma muy fcil de encontrar tus emails: organzalos por carpetas. [3]Haz clic aqu -- References 1. http://www.lib.utexas.edu/etd/d/2007/beckmang19812/beckmang19812.pdf 2. http://liuti.manassero.net/ 3. http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/hotmail/organizacion.asp To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Wratislavia Cantans Festival
Dear Friends, If somebody will be in Wroclaw on 5th-20th Sept., I would like to invite to Wratislavia Cantans Festival under Paul McCreesh as artistic director. I recommend especially few concerts: on Monday (7.09.): The English Baroque Soloists, The Monteverdi Choir and Sir John Eliot Gardiner (conductor) - Georg Friedrich Händel #8211; Izrael in Egypt on Tuesday (8.09.): Andreas Scholl and Edin Karamazov - musical banquet of Robert Dowland See you soon Grzegorz GRAMY FAIR PLAY , NIE MNOŻYMY OPŁAT - Konferencje w Trójmieście http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.nadmorski.plsid=850 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: b-lute mss catalogue incipits?
I think that is great idea. If I could help with b-lute mss from Poland I will join to this proposition. Catalog on-line with incipits surely will be very helpful. We have web page with S.L. Weiss works, with incipits and concordances. It is very helpful. By the way I have second an open question. What do you think about notifing concern work on the some project, for example like preparing this big b-lute mss catalogue? I think this information will be helpful to escape make a duplicate. Usually big project takes a long period of time so I think it will be worth know if somebody work on something which I would like to take up. Grzegorz Dnia 28-07-2009 o godz. 21:20 David van Ooijen napisał(a): An open question. Would it be feasible, given all the goodwill of the people on this list and all the mss they have stashed away, to provide the wonderful on-line catalogue of Manuscripts for Baroque Lute by Peter Steur and Markus Lutz (hear hear!) with incipits of all the entries? Just a few measures, tab is enough It would make the cataloge even more valuable ... David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html HANNAH MONTANA FILM - gra komputerowa na PC i konsole. http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2FHannahMontanaFilm280709.htmlsid=815
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song?
Some from them sounds suspiciously like bandoras songs which I had pleasure heard in Lviv. G Dnia 17-06-2009 o godz. 0:03 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): Look in http://www.torban.org/pisni/ ;-) RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Cc: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Odp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song? Fantastic, do you have more them? May I please? G Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 23:47 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): http://www.torban.org/pisni/images/ojprjadu.pdf there is one. FG - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Cc: theoj89294 theoj89...@aol.com; BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song? Really nobody know any happies songs for lute in weddings special day? Thanks Roman, for mothers-in-law is could be useful:) Is it on polyhymnion web page? GJ Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 22:32 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): I checked my collection, but it's all pretty ominous...;-((( http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html I have quite a few on the subject of evil mothers-in-law...;-)) RT Dear friends, do you know any songs for baroque lute, theorbo with soprano or countertenor or both, for the special occasion which is wedding? Grzegorz Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 14:42 theoj89...@aol.com napisał(a): Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) This also begs the question - what changed so that the baroque lute was not popularly used to accompany voice? cheers trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763 Życie to gra? Powiedz co myślisz i wygraj cenne nagrody Kliknij: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fbadanie06.htmlsid=766 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song?
I heard one guy, who played and sang well. He learned in Kiev special school for bandurist and now he know few hard songs (in polish language called Duma) and teach some boys in Lviv. His songs was not sugary. GJ Dnia 17-06-2009 o godz. 0:23 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): Those are rarely a pleasure to hear, as they mostly play sugary 20th century fare. RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Cc: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song? Some from them sounds suspiciously like bandoras songs which I had pleasure heard in Lviv. G Dnia 17-06-2009 o godz. 0:03 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): Look in http://www.torban.org/pisni/ ;-) RT - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Cc: BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Odp: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song? Fantastic, do you have more them? May I please? G Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 23:47 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): http://www.torban.org/pisni/images/ojprjadu.pdf there is one. FG - Original Message - From: Grzegorz Joachimiak gjoachim...@wp.pl To: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net Cc: theoj89294 theoj89...@aol.com; BAROQUE-LUTE baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Odp: baroque lute song? Really nobody know any happies songs for lute in weddings special day? Thanks Roman, for mothers-in-law is could be useful:) Is it on polyhymnion web page? GJ Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 22:32 Roman Turovsky napisał(a): I checked my collection, but it's all pretty ominous...;-((( http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html I have quite a few on the subject of evil mothers-in-law...;-)) RT Dear friends, do you know any songs for baroque lute, theorbo with soprano or countertenor or both, for the special occasion which is wedding? Grzegorz Dnia 16-06-2009 o godz. 14:42 theoj89...@aol.com napisał(a): Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) This also begs the question - what changed so that the baroque lute was not popularly used to accompany voice? cheers trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763 Życie to gra? Powiedz co myślisz i wygraj cenne nagrody Kliknij: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fbadanie06.htmlsid=766 19 Międzynarodowy Festiwal Teatralny MALTA, Poznań 23-27/06. W programie m.in. Nine Inch Nails i Jane's Addiction z Peaches. - Szczegóły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fnin.htmlsid=763 Życie to gra? Powiedz co myślisz i wygraj cenne nagrody Kliknij: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fbadanie06.htmlsid=766
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Music Morality
Unfotunately I will not be there, but I will keep one's fingers crossed for your success and constructive questions after your paper. Sounds really interesting. Good luck. Grzegorz Dnia 11-06-2009 o godz. 19:56 Benjamin Narvey napisał(a): Dear all, In case any of you may be in London this coming Monday, I am giving a paper on French baroque lute music at the Music and Morality conference hosted by the Institute of Musical Research and the Institute of Philosophy (University of London). See below for details: [1]http://music.sas.ac.uk/imr-events/imr-conferences-colloquia-performa nce-events/music-and-morality.html This looks set to be a really interesting conference (Susan McClary, Jerrold Levinson, John Deathridge, Roger Scruton and many others will be there), and it even appears that parts of the conference may be broadcast on the BBC. I have included the abstract below. All best wishes, Benjamin BENJAMIN NARVEYHonest Music: The Case of the Seventeenth-Century French Lute If morality can be understood to be a code of social conduct, then French lute music of the Grand Sicle presents us with an intriguing example of how music can function as a moral agent. In the wake of the civil war known as the Fronde (1648-53), the traditional French nobility amongst whom the lute counted as a favourite instrumentre-invented itself in a bid to preserve its challenged status through a code of social forms and manners they called honntet: literally honesty. This term at once evokes morality, but as we shall see, it is also intricately linked to contemporary discourses of power, representation, rhetoric, and artistic taste (bon got). In fact, many of the musical forms found in French lute music, and many of the luthistes playing techniques and compositional strategies, are directly linked to this moral code of honest courtly conductto the point that much of the lute repertoire proves uncommonly dependent on honesty for its coherence as an art form. Where from the view of modern common practice tonality this repertoire often appears to lack the very components that render musical discourse intelligible (its harmonies often seem aimless, there is not always a continuous or defi nable melody, and rhythms can be displaced well beyond the bounds of normative hypermetricity), a reading of this repertoire through the lens of honntet shows how French lute music functioned as a classic moral performance, since it reproduced contemporary social conduct through artistic experience. Thus, the case of the French lute serves to highlight the interdependence between contemporary ethics and aesthetics, and thereby provides a useful example of how music can be linked to moral sensibilities. Benjamin Narvey is professional lutenist and a post-doctoral fellow at the Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes (Sorbonne) working on a critical edition of the lute music of Robert de Vise (c.1660-c.1732). In 2008, Benjamin was the winner of the Goldberg Musical Essay Competition. -- Dr Benjamin A. Narvey Post-doctorant/Post-Doctoral Fellow Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes (Sorbonne) IVe Section des Sciences historiques et philologiques t +33 (0) 1 44 27 03 44 p/m +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 Site web/Website: [2]www.luthiste.com -- References 1. http://music.sas.ac.uk/imr-events/imr-conferences-colloquia-performance-events/music-and-morality.html 2. http://www.luthiste.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Radiohead. Jedyny koncert w Polsce! Poznań dla Ziemi 25 sierpnia, Park Cytadela, Poznań Bilety: wwW.eventim.pl. To będzie koncertowe wydarzenie roku! http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fradiohead.htmlsid=762
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: Re: Telemann enquiry
Dear friends, Warsaw lute tablatures (in fact Silesian lute tablature) were used to various editions (EDM, Samtliche Werke and others smaller edition). But availability alike edition from choice ms. and some CD's recording from this sources is specific situation, because there were availabled in not much editions and in fact they are not available to buy now (mainly CD's). Similarly situation is with RM 4135 (a+b). I acquainted with all source and edition so-called Grussau lute tablature, but I didn't see Gusta Goldschmidt edition, because (at least to my knowledge) Warsaw Library doesn't have it. I would like get to know Gusta Goldschmidt edition. Best wishes Grzegorz Joachimiak Poznaj prawdę o swojej rodzinie. Wejdź na Bliscy.pl Kliknij: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fbliscy.htmlsid=684 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
