Re: your change "autoload `bbdb-insinuate-gnus'..."
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:18:10 -0600 "Roland Winkler" wrote: RW> Would you mind if I revert your change from 2011-10-11 RW> "Also autoload `bbdb-insinuate-{message,rmail,vm,mh}' from bbd..."? RW> All autoloads for bbdb are collected in bbdb-autoloads.el. RW> So if you load this file it really gives you everything necessary to RW> get BBDB going. (And this needs to be documented properly...) Sure :) Ted -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
> ... The goal is to make BBDB part of GNU Emacs, which requires that > the copyright for all its code (from all contributors) gets assigned > to the FSF. I sent in the needed paperwork, and would encourage others to do so as well. It is reasonably painless, and you get a free sticker, although I certainly concede that stickers are probably better at motivating toddlers than computer programmers. --Barak. -- Barak A. Pearlmutter Hamilton Institute & Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
> Barak, do I remember right that you also installed the old BBDB > code form sourceforge as a branch of the git repo on savannah? > My knowledge about git is still somewhat limited. How can this old > code be accessed on savannah? There is a branch on the savannah repo called v2.x which holds the old sf CVS 2.x development. The 3.x development happens on top of this, but the first thing that happens there is wholesale deletion of most everything. There is a clone you can access in your local repo via git remote add github git://github.com/barak/bbdb3 git fetch github which, in addition to the above, also has side-branches with (a) the debian packaging info for v2.x called debian-v2.x; (b) working (albeit not yet uploaded to debian) packaging info for v3.x, called debian-v3.x; and (c) various fixes and tweaks that were applied to the debian version of v2.x, called suggest-v2.x. It also might have some random tags. --Barak. -- Barak A. Pearlmutter Hamilton Institute & Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2011-11-20
> * Roland Winkler [2011-11-20 23:13:36 -0600]: > > On Sun Nov 20 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: >> as I said before, TRT is to use define-obsolete-function-alias & >> define-obsolete-variable-alias > > This would require a simple one-to-one correspondence between > function and variable names in BBDB v2 and v3 which is NOT the case. Only if the goal is to maintain backward compatibility, which is _not_ the case. The goal is to use the standard emacs functionality to automatically warn the users when they try to use obsolete variables and functions. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://camera.org http://memri.org http://pmw.org.il http://www.memritv.org http://dhimmi.com http://openvotingconsortium.org http://mideasttruth.com I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up! -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
On Mon Nov 21 2011 Christian Egli wrote: > Where would I find the source of the manual, i.e. the texinfo file? The > git repo doesn't seem to contain the manual. The best I was able to find > was at sourceforge > (http://bbdb.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bbdb/bbdb/texinfo/bbdb.texinfo?revision=1.59) > although I'm not sure how up-to-date this is. The git repo on savannah only contains those pieces of the BBDB code that have already been updated. No work has been done up to now on the texinfo manual. So what you found in BBDB's old repository on sourceforge is very outdated. But currently there is nothing else. Barak, do I remember right that you also installed the old BBDB code form sourceforge as a branch of the git repo on savannah? My knowledge about git is still somewhat limited. How can this old code be accessed on savannah? Part of the problem is also copyright-related. The goal is to make BBDB part of GNU Emacs, which requires that the copyright for all its code (from all contributors) gets assigned to the FSF. The older the code, the more difficult to find the authors and contributors. The more BBDB gets rewritten, the less this is a problem. So I also want to say: I appreciate help from everybody. But I'll request that the copyright gets assigned to the FSF before someone's contributions become part of BBDB v3. (It will be difficult enough to resolve these copyright issues for the old pieces of BBDB that have remained in the current code.) Roland -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
"Roland Winkler" writes: > On Sun Nov 20 2011 Philipp Moeller wrote: >> So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. > > I am sorry, the updates in BBDB v3 are still work in progress. > The code itself is already fairly mature by now, but the rest > (documentation and installation support) is stil lacking behind. > > Volunteers welcome :-) Where would I find the source of the manual, i.e. the texinfo file? The git repo doesn't seem to contain the manual. The best I was able to find was at sourceforge (http://bbdb.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bbdb/bbdb/texinfo/bbdb.texinfo?revision=1.59) although I'm not sure how up-to-date this is. Thanks Christian -- Christian Egli Swiss Library for the Blind, Visually Impaired and Print Disabled Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
your change "autoload `bbdb-insinuate-gnus'..."
Hi Ted, Would you mind if I revert your change from 2011-10-11 "Also autoload `bbdb-insinuate-{message,rmail,vm,mh}' from bbd..."? All autoloads for bbdb are collected in bbdb-autoloads.el. So if you load this file it really gives you everything necessary to get BBDB going. (And this needs to be documented properly...) Roland -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/