BBEdit package aimed at Zend Framework hacking

2011-08-06 Thread Gregg Thomason
Hey everyone,
I've found an excuse to exercise the new bbpackage functionality; I'm trying 
to extend a bunch of stuff I need in my day job, working with Zend 
Framework. So I put it up on Github, I hope someone finds it useful. Love to 
hear some feedback!

https://github.com/neurobashing/BBEdit-Zend-Framework-

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Add support for custom Terminal

2011-08-06 Thread Asger Drewsen
I want support for another Terminal than Apple Terminal supported.
I specific want to use iTerm2 instead.
You used to be able to do this: defaults write com.barebones.bbedit
Misc:TerminalBundleIDOverride com.googlecode.iTerm2
But it doesn't work anymore :s

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changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Bill Thayer
I've been a user of BBEdit for over 10 years, and there's surely
nothing better on the market; and usually, with every new version,
I find nifty improvements.
   I'll also preface this by saying that, resistant as I can be to
change, I've immediately adjusted, and happily too, to each new
version. With version 10 though, it's not a matter of me adjusting or
not, but what I feel to be the introduction of real flaws.

The worst course reversal has been in the Find function, and I hope
it'll be set right again in the next version. Specifically:

One of the very nice arrangements in previous versions was the
handling of the Live Find feature.
   I used to do a Live Find on a document, then go to another document
and do the same Live Find on it with no further ado. Now, I have to
reënter the same thing all over again for each document.
   The Live Find also worked so that when I found the instance I was
looking for I could just type over it, or arrow my way to what
I wanted from there. No more! Now, I have to press Tab; to continue
with the Live Find, I then have to go back to the Live Find box etc.
Very irritating.
   A corollary of this new handling of Live Find: It used to be that
when you were thru with one live find, you could proceed with another,
by rekeying the key equivalent. Now if you do that, you still have the
previous one to get rid of.

The two separate Find windows don't make much sense; all the more so
that if you change one, the other is changed as well. (The two
separate windows might make some sense if they allowed us to have one
search in a document, the other over a set of document. Even then, not
much.)

In the Find window, I used to be able to specify Case Sensitive,
Entire Word, and GREP, Wrap Around, Case Sensitive in the Find
window — with command keys. That's gone (and the check boxes for them
to boot have shrunk really small): very, very inconvenient. ▸Please
restore the command-key equivalents! And, especially if you don't do
that, at least make those checkboxes some normal size again so we
don't have to have the fine fingers of brain surgeons to click on
them!

I used to be able to manage my Find Patterns, from a very handy window
reached thru Preferences. In that window, my patterns appeared in the
order I had them: I could add them, rename them, delete them, or move
them higher or lower in my menu. Now — as far as I can tell — there's
no way of doing some of that: Manage Patterns appears as a line in
that menu, and opens a window in which I can only add, delete, or
rename: I can't move them in the menu. (Over time, some patterns
become more important, or less important, to me: why shouldn't I be
able to move them up or down in the menu?) The patterns do not appear
in the order in which I have them, but in alphabetical order.
   [I just tried, by the way, to circumvent not being able to move the
patterns in the menu — a pattern I'd named variant. . ., I want it
at the top these days — OK I'll rename it AAA variant: to my
surprise, BBEdit crashed.]

In the Find Patterns menu — mine has 133 patterns in it (just counted)
— the Save line used to be at the top. Now, idiotically, it's at the
bottom: forcing me to scroll all the way down the list just to save a
pattern. ▸At least put it back at the top!

In sum, a lot of good features have been thrown over; I can't see why,
either. Please restore them! (Don't get me started on those horrible
document drawers, which global searches sometimes wind up creating.)


★★★
Finally, not bugs or disimprovements, but friendly suggestions for
continued improvements (after the vs. 10 stuff I mentioned has been
undone):
   ▸It  would be nice to add a Save Pattern button directly on the
Find Window: why should I have to open the Find Pattern list and
scroll to a menu line to do this? This is surely one of the commonest
things people do?
   ▸It would be nice if Find Pattern submenus were available: so that
those of us with long sets of find patterns could group them, and
navigate to individual patterns faster and more logically. (Some of my
patterns deal with stuff I do to document on one part of my site but
not the others; some are manipulations of polytonic Greek — checks for
example that there are no unaccented words other than enclitics, etc.)

Thanks in advance for considering these improvements —

BT

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Bruce Van Allen

On 2011-08-06, Bill Thayer wrote:

The two separate Find windows don't make much sense; all the more so
that if you change one, the other is changed as well. (The two
separate windows might make some sense if they allowed us to have one
search in a document, the other over a set of document. Even then, not
much.)


I on the other hand like this a lot (and it's not changed from 
v. 9.x). Sometimes I search and replace in one doc, test, then 
decide I want to make the same change in several other docs, so 
it's convenient to have same pattern and replacement in the 
muti-doc dialog.



In the Find window, I used to be able to specify Case Sensitive,
Entire Word, and GREP, Wrap Around, Case Sensitive in the Find
window — with command keys. That's gone


No it's not - the key commands have changed - see the manual or 
a post from BB folk on this list about a week ago.



I used to be able to manage my Find Patterns, from a very handy window
reached thru Preferences.


That's now handled under BBdit - Setup.

I do agree that having Save Pattern at the bottom of the list is sub-optimal...

Did you send you message to Support?

HTH



   - Bruce

_bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Bill Thayer
▸I on the other hand like [the two separate Find windows] a lot (and
it's not changed from v. 9.x).

I'm getting used to it, and it's not critical (oh, and sharp eye! I
jumped from 8.6).

▸▸In the Find window, I used to be able to specify Case
Sensitive. . .
▸No it's not - the key commands have changed - see the manual or
a post from BB folk on this list about a week ago.

Hearty thanks! and very good to hear. Missed that somehow, tsk‑tsk.


▸▸I used to be able to manage my Find Patterns, from a very handy
window
reached thru Preferences.
▸That's now handled under BBdit - Setup.

I didn’t know about that. On the other hand, it still displays them in
alphabetical order and doesn't seem to let me move the Find Patterns
and put them in the order I want, which was my big beef. In sum it's
the same window I get from the Find window: and in fact if I open Set
Up, then go to the Find window and open the other, I have one set-up
window open, not two.


▸Did you send you message to Support?

No, I didn’t. It seems more of a bug than anything I need support
with.



BT

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Christopher Stone
On Aug 06, 2011, at 12:30, Bill Thayer wrote:
 No, I didn’t. It seems more of a bug than anything I need support with.
__

Hey Bill,

Support is where you *report* bugs.  :)

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Christopher Stone
Hey Bill,

On Aug 06, 2011, at 08:53, Bill Thayer wrote:
 The worst course reversal has been in the Find function, and I hope it'll be 
 set right again in the next version. Specifically:

I still prefer the old modal dialog.  :)

 I used to do a Live Find on a document, then go to another document and do 
 the same Live Find on it with no further ado. Now, I have to reënter the same 
 thing all over again for each document.

I'm not certain I like this either...  But I haven't yet made up my mind.

One thing you *can* do is type your live search string and then type Cmd-G or 
Return or click the next arrow.  That will make the string active in the main 
find dialog, so Cmd-G will work globally.

I think the way this works is a little confusing, but it's nothing I can't get 
used to.

 The Live Find also worked so that when I found the instance I was looking for 
 I could just type over it, or arrow my way to what I wanted from there. No 
 more! Now, I have to press Tab; to continue with the Live Find, I then have 
 to go back to the Live Find box etc.

Not sure what you're saying here.

Live Search.
Slap the Escape key.
If you want to find again hit Cmd-E and then Cmd-G.
 

Do what you want.

 A corollary of this new handling of Live Find: It used to be that when you 
 were thru with one live find, you could proceed with another, by rekeying the 
 key equivalent. Now if you do that, you still have the previous one to get 
 rid of.

It should be coming up preselected like it always did, so you can just type 
over the old search string.

 The two separate Find windows don't make much sense; all the more so that if 
 you change one, the other is changed as well. (The two separate windows might 
 make some sense if they allowed us to have one search in a document, the 
 other over a set of document. Even then, not much.)

What two separate *windows*?

 In the Find Patterns menu — mine has 133 patterns in it (just counted) — the 
 Save line used to be at the top. Now, idiotically, it's at the bottom: 
 forcing me to scroll all the way down the list just to save a pattern. ▸At 
 least put it back at the top!

Calling the developers idiots is not likely to motivate them to change 
anything.  On the other hand there's nothing wrong with indicating that you 
don't like it as is.

There's a fairly reasonable work-around.  Open the Find dialog; Type 
Control-Shift-P; Type 's' or Option-Down-Arrow; Type 'Return' or 'SpaceBar'.

I still would like to see regular expressions available in the Live Search 
field.

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Bill Thayer
  The Live Find also worked so that when I found the instance I was looking 
  for I could just type over it, or arrow my way to what I wanted from there. 
  No more! Now, I have to press Tab; to continue with the Live Find, I then 
  have to go back to the Live Find box etc.

 Not sure what you're saying here.

To alternate the two kinds of search I now have to go thru extra
steps.


 Live Search.
 Slap the Escape key.
 If you want to find again hit Cmd-E and then Cmd-G.

Yes, of course. I use the live find to get me very quickly to a
particular place in my document, from where I may make a real search;
usually not.
 It should be coming up preselected like it always did, so you can just type 
 over the old search string.

I'm forgetting the old one already! Maybe it did.


  The two separate Find windows don't make much sense; all the more so that 
  if you change one, the other is changed as well. (The two separate windows 
  might make some sense if they allowed us to have one search in a document, 
  the other over a set of document. Even then, not much.)

 What two separate *windows*?

The single-document Find window and the multiple-document Find window.


▸Now, idiotically, it's at the bottom:

 Calling the developers idiots is not likely to motivate them to change 
 anything.

Quite right, and I didn’t.

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Bill Thayer
Oh, and Option-Down-Arrow — I replied too fast — is very nice, thank
you!!

B

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Re: changes to Find

2011-08-06 Thread Christopher Stone
Hey Bill,

On Aug 06, 2011, at 13:47, Bill Thayer wrote:
 What two separate *windows*?
 The single-document Find window and the multiple-document Find window.


Ah.  I actually like this separation, because I don't often use the 
multi-file-search.

 Oh, and Option-Down-Arrow — I replied too fast — is very nice, thank you!!

You bet.

If you have good mnemonic names for your patterns you can type-select in the 
list with alacrity.

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Re: Clipping and indent

2011-08-06 Thread verdonv
Hmmm... my formatting seems to get lost in the email version of this..
I'll try again using tab to indicate my indent...

Given that I have an variable number of lines of text like such,

The rain in Spain
falls mainly in the plain
The fog in the bog
makes a slippery log

I'd like to make a clipping that will result in this,

{c:Chorus}
tab{soc}
tabThe rain in Spain
tabfalls mainly in the plain
tabThe fog in the bog
tabmakes a slippery log
tab{eoc}

My rough clipping is like this,

{c:Chorus}
tab{soc}
tab#SELECTIONORINSERTION#tab{eoc}

Which results in this,

{c:Chorus}
tab{soc}
tabThe rain in Spain
falls mainly in the plain
The fog in the bog
makes a slippery log
tab{eoc}

I've tried fiddling with #indent# but I realize now, that's not it's
purpose.

Any thoughts how to get the subsequent lines to indent to the position
of the first in the selection?

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