Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Joshua Root
Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of every 
window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to 
TextWrangler. It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the 
unusable menu items starting with "Upgrade".

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Bucky Junior
I think the best way to stop the “Evaluation Ended” showing up in every window 
is to pay for the software. I don’t remember seeing it at all.

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Joshua Root  wrote:
> 
> Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of every 
> window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to TextWrangler. 
> It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable menu items 
> starting with "Upgrade".

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread 'Bruce Linde' via BBEdit Talk
absolutely... cough up $50. bbedit is not a free app. there is a 30-day 
evaluation, after which you have the choice of paying for it or living with 
upgrade/evaluation messages. either way, you get to use the ultimate 
text/coding power tool... but there's always a choice. if you don't like 
the ones bbedit offers, you could go back to text wrangler... but bbedit 
(essentially) pays my mortgage, and has done so for a very long time. i'm 
thrilled to support barebones and bbedit.




On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 10:15:55 AM UTC-8, Joshua Root wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of every 
> window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to 
> TextWrangler. It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the 
> unusable menu items starting with "Upgrade".
>

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Alfredo
Few software companies,anywhere in the world, have the level of product 
(and product support) that the BBEdit folks have. There is no question 
about this. Why should there be any question about paying them the 
extremely fair prices they charge for BBEdit?

On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 11:48:20 AM UTC-7, Bruce Linde wrote:
>
> absolutely... cough up $50. bbedit is not a free app. there is a 30-day 
> evaluation, after which you have the choice of paying for it or living with 
> upgrade/evaluation messages. either way, you get to use the ultimate 
> text/coding power tool... but there's always a choice. if you don't like 
> the ones bbedit offers, you could go back to text wrangler... but bbedit 
> (essentially) pays my mortgage, and has done so for a very long time. i'm 
> thrilled to support barebones and bbedit.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 10:15:55 AM UTC-8, Joshua Root wrote:
>>
>> Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of every 
>> window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to 
>> TextWrangler. It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the 
>> unusable menu items starting with "Upgrade".
>>
>

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Rich Siegel
On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, Joshua Root 
 wrote:


Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar 
of every window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch 
back to TextWrangler.


Is there a specific functional issue that you're having with this?

It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable 
menu items starting with "Upgrade".


You can use the "Menus & Shortcuts" preferences to hide any menu 
commands that you don't ever use.


R.
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Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they 
sedate me.


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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Rich Siegel
On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, 'Bruce Linde' via BBEdit Talk 
 wrote:



but bbedit (essentially) pays my mortgage, and has done so for a very
long time.


Funny, I was going to say the same.

And thank you (all) for your support. :-)

R.
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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Luis Speciale

Le 14/12/2016 à 21:52, Rich Siegel a écrit :

On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, Joshua Root
 wrote:


Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar of
every window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch back to
TextWrangler.


Is there a specific functional issue that you're having with this?


It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable menu
items starting with "Upgrade".


You can use the "Menus & Shortcuts" preferences to hide any menu
commands that you don't ever use.

R.


Nicest answer ever. But, I must confess, BBEdit it's the only software I 
bought in my all life.


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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Robert W. Franson
Thank *you*, Rich, and all the BB team for many years of this great application!

BBEdit is my favorite application. I certainly spend more time in it than in 
any other, and it’s the only one I leave open 24/7, always.

Robert W. Franson

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, 'Bruce Linde' via BBEdit Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
>> but bbedit (essentially) pays my mortgage, and has done so for a very
>> long time.
> 
> Funny, I was going to say the same.
> 
> And thank you (all) for your support. :-)
> 
> R.
> -- 
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>   
> 
> Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me.
> 

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Kyle DeMilo
Agreed.

I was always using workarounds, and demos and then I finally strapped on my
big boy pants™ and bought a copy.
This application is fantastic, the support top-notch, and if my purchase
helps to develop a Yojimbo 5 (cough cough), then it's money well spent.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:19 PM Robert W. Franson 
wrote:

> Thank *you*, Rich, and all the BB team for many years of this great
> application!
>
> BBEdit is my favorite application. I certainly spend more time in it than
> in any other, and it’s the only one I leave open 24/7, always.
>
> Robert W. Franson
>
> http://www.Troynovant.com/
> prismatic essays & untimely reviews
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, 'Bruce Linde' via BBEdit Talk <
> bbedit@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> >> but bbedit (essentially) pays my mortgage, and has done so for a very
> >> long time.
> >
> > Funny, I was going to say the same.
> >
> > And thank you (all) for your support. :-)
> >
> > R.
> > --
> > Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc.
> >   
> >
> > Someday I'll look back on all this and laugh... until they sedate me.
> >
>
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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 12/14/16 at 1:19 PM, edi...@troynovant.com (Robert W. 
Franson) wrote:

BBEdit is my favorite application. I certainly spend more time in it
than in any other, and it’s the only one I leave open 24/7, always.


I know we're not supposed to pile on with me-too's on this list, 
but... Ditto.


Thanks,
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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Joshua Root
On Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:52:15 UTC+11, Rich Siegel wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, Joshua Root 
> > wrote: 
>
> >Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar 
> >of every window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch 
> >back to TextWrangler. 
>
> Is there a specific functional issue that you're having with this? 
>

The red draws the eye and suggests that there is cause for alarm.
 

> >It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable 
> >menu items starting with "Upgrade". 
>
> You can use the "Menus & Shortcuts" preferences to hide any menu 
> commands that you don't ever use. 
>
 
Thanks, that's very helpful.

As for everyone else: OK, I get it, I'm a terrible person for using 
TextWrangler instead of buying BBEdit. I just read that BBEdit in 
unregistered mode would be replacing TextWrangler, and this was a 
noticeable difference between the two.

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread 'Bruce Linde' via BBEdit Talk
joshua -

you're (obviously) not a 'terrible person'... but please do note the 
incredible loyalty to barebones and bbedit from us long-time 
users/supporters.

don't need the additional features offered by bbedit and can get by with 
text wrangler? vaya con dios, hermano.

on the other hand, if you want (need?) the full monty offered by bbedit, 
you'd get a big bang for the buck.

for a complete comparison of what each app offers, please see: 
https://goo.gl/A3gu1

fyi... i've built hundred of websites using bbedit and do all of my coding 
(mostly php), craigslist ads, whatever using the app... even so, i'm sure i 
don't use a lot of the functionality it offers... kind of like having a 
ferrari and only using it to drive to the safeway a mile and a half away... 
but it's an awesome ride!   8-)

you didn't say what you're using the app(s) for, but it might help inform 
the discussion.

and... sorry we all jumped on you!














On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 2:44:08 PM UTC-8, Joshua Root wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:52:15 UTC+11, Rich Siegel wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2016, Joshua Root 
>>  wrote: 
>>
>> >Would it be possible to stop this being shown in the title bar 
>> >of every window? It's annoying enough to make me want to switch 
>> >back to TextWrangler. 
>>
>> Is there a specific functional issue that you're having with this? 
>>
>
> The red draws the eye and suggests that there is cause for alarm.
>  
>
>> >It would also be nice to be able to just hide all the unusable 
>> >menu items starting with "Upgrade". 
>>
>> You can use the "Menus & Shortcuts" preferences to hide any menu 
>> commands that you don't ever use. 
>>
>  
> Thanks, that's very helpful.
>
> As for everyone else: OK, I get it, I'm a terrible person for using 
> TextWrangler instead of buying BBEdit. I just read that BBEdit in 
> unregistered mode would be replacing TextWrangler, and this was a 
> noticeable difference between the two.
>

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-14 Thread Jan Erik Moström

On 14 Dec 2016, at 22:19, Robert W. Franson wrote:


I leave open 24/7, always


To be more precise: launch when starting computer, shut down when 
shutting down computer.


= jem

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-15 Thread Robert W. Franson
Ah, but the spirit of BBEdit is always present, even when the Mac is powered 
off.

Robert W. Franson

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> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Jan Erik Moström  wrote:
> 
> On 14 Dec 2016, at 22:19, Robert W. Franson wrote:
> 
>> I leave open 24/7, always
> 
> To be more precise: launch when starting computer, shut down when shutting 
> down computer.
> 
> = jem

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Re: Red "Evaluation Ended" text

2016-12-16 Thread Dave
Just wanted to share an example of how far ahead of the curve BBEdit is in 
usability. Ever since Safari and Finder got tabbed windows, I have hoped in 
vain that the next upgrade will bring a hierarchical Window menu. BBEdit 
has had this feature for as long as I can remember (which isn't saying all 
that much these days, but it's been a long time), and it just seems crazy 
to only be able to see whatever is open in the current tab in each window 
on the Window menu. I just amazes me that Apple hasn't seen the need for 
them yet.

Before anyone asks why I haven't requested this feature,
1. How do you know I haven't (i.e. what difference would it make)?
2. Have you even tried to figure out how to send a feature request--or even 
a bug report--to Apple lately?
Barebones hasn't implemented every feature I've ever suggested, but they've 
always responded--yes, no or maybe--in a day or two, and usually discussed 
them with me.

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