Re: Mail Irradiation

2002-02-05 Thread D S Chamberlain

They make them around here, do you want me to check it out? Won't be cheap
though, they paint them up for the tourists.
David C

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Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Mail Irradiation


 Thanks for the comments, Gil!

 Too bad it costs so much to ship to Australia, 'eh???

 Hey - here's a completely unrelated question:  any chance you have a
 didg source over there?  I've been playing for a couple years, and would
 love to find something authentic.

 TIA,

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Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in BD Cultivation?

2002-02-05 Thread D S Chamberlain

Allan: I doubt if any one has the answer who will own up. The 2 Million
figure has been around for years and emulated from a claim by AP. Maybe
Cheryl with her contacts in the higher regions of the bureaucracy may be
able to find out. If it was true then I doubt that it still is given the
purported dropouts from APs group, everything is run so secretly that only
AP knows.
David C

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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in BD
Cultivation?


 I think the usual answer to this question is Only A.P. knows, but
 he's not telling.

 Since I meet so many growers from OZ outside this list and since the
 non-BD ones have never heard of BD and I've only met one who was BD
 and none who work with A.P., it's hard for me to fathom the
 factuality of this common quote.

 Tell me again, ok?

 Thanks

 -Allan






Fwd: Re: Phylloxera and biodynamic wines (was: Grape Cuttings)

2002-02-05 Thread bdnow

From Greg Willis -

Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 03:30:10 -0800
From: Greg Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lorraine Cahill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Phylloxera and biodynamic wines (was: Grape Cuttings)

Dear Allan,

Please forward to BDNOW.  Thank you.

Please inform Messers Robertson, Heinricks and Wright that Steiner
mentions a cure for Phylloxera a couple of times in his ag. lectures.
In 1995, I put together a Steiner/Albrecht/Burbank/Willis based protocol
which I then tried on two Phylloxerated vineyards in 1996 and 1997.  We
saved on average over 80% of the vines in each vineyard, a fact that can
be attested by Messers Michael Topolos and Ralph Riva ( an infrequent
contributor to Acres U.S.A.).  That was for the first year only.
Although I was not able to return personally to Ralph Riva's vineyard,
which was sold for housing, I was able to return to Mr. Topolos'
vineyard for 4 more years of treatment.  I am happy to say that there is
no more Phylloxera in the treated part of this vineyard.

Since that time, I have developed even more powerful remedies which
speed up recovery considerably.  This year, I am using my newer methods
on several vineyards that have a multitude of disease and insect
problems including bacterial and viral infections.  What once took 3 or
4 years to correct, I now see we can accomplish in only one year with
respect to disease and insects.  Improving the tilth, friability and
humus content of the soil is another matter which takes some time to do
but with copious amounts of compost, of the right kind, and with cover
crops, of the right kind, we now have the capability of accomplishing
tremendous soil improvements in much shorter times as well.  Believe me,
I'm only touching this topic.  At Agri-Synthesis®, we can now do things
with plants and land, and people too, that no one dreamed was possible.

I have developed a homeopathic spray of seven Steiner compost remedies
that can be applied to the OUTSIDE of a compost pile at a 90% reduction
in labor time.

Everyone wants to know how we do these miracles.  Well, I'm sorry, I
can't tell you how.  It's proprietary.  This is information that we've
spent hundreds of thousands of dollars gathering and 9 years developing
in the field.  I will say this, though.  Steiner was a genius, he was
right and he was prescient.  If you want to make his genius work for
you, you must use ALL of his remedies.  In most cases, they have to be
applied once each season - summer, fall, winter and spring.  Failure to
do so guarantees failure at some level.  And you must use horn clay or
you will never achieve what is possible.

Look.  Let's be clear about one thing.  Steiner's potions as one
viticultural genius called them, are not preparations.  They prepare
nothing.  Anyone who thinks so simply doesn't understand Steiner or his
intentions.  They're remedies.  They fix things.

Some of you over the age of 50 may recall that in the old days of
pharmacy, prescriptions were called recipes or preparations made by
the pharmacist.  The term preparations was applied to Steiner's
remedies in the days when that was a common description of what a
pharmacist prepared.  You know, I've ranted for years at the stupidity
and ignorance prevalent in biodynamics and my mind hasn't changed one
bit.  I would like to see those who profess that they are biodynamics
practitioners to at least drag themselves into the 21st century and
ditch the word preparations or preps for nomenclature that is more
modern, more definitive and more accurate.  Remedies is certainly
easier to use and more understandable by the illiterati who think that
Steiner was a bozo dealing in witchcraft.  Of course, the term
illiterati applies to the self-appointed leaders of biodynamics too
inasmuch as they also refuse to use the proper terminology.  And I mean
PROPER terminology.  You want to live in the 19th century.  Be my
guest.  I don't and I certainly see no purpose in wallowing in the past.

Anyway, I have no trouble recommending planting Vitis vinifera vines on
their own rootstocks if they use our system of viticultural design and
management, which is far superior to others and which is, I have been
informed by a leading self-proclaimed Anthroposophic genius, Steiner
inspired but not biodynamic®.  Thank God.  If I was forced to use
what he calls biodynamic® farming I'd be stuck in the Stone Age.  With
him!  Arrrgh!

What is acutely interesting to me is that each year we experiment with
new ways of using Steiner's remedies, and my remedies together with
Steiner's, and we see quantum leaps in both our understanding of the
processes and potentials of these remedies.  I have two observations
that I will make.  First, the potential of Steiner's remedies is limited
only by one's imagination.  Second, at the rate we're going, in a few
years, I expect to make Steiner remedies 100 times more 

Dodge Fest Boulders

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Farr

Don't follow, indeed!

The Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry fest is in Waterloo Village, NJ - about 45
min. west of Parsippany, if my memory serves me well.  It's held every
two years.  The web address is:

http://www.grdodge.org/poetry/

A very spiritual place, Waterloo Village.  On a lake, where there is a
restored Native American village.  Lots of good fraternity - about
20,000 poets show up (nice to know there's that many of us out
there...).  About 45 min. from one of my favorite state parks - Jenny
Jump, which was formed by glaciers.  There's a HUGE boulder field at
Jenny Jump - maybe a mile-and-a-half long.  Great to walk down the
trail, just looking at those rocks.

Ah -

--
Robert Farr
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shipping BD horns across borders

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Roboz



Dear List,

 Has anyone experience with sending bd horns across 
the border from US into Canada.? Is there any restriction? If so, a 
way around it?
cheers, Michael


Re: shipping BD horns across borders

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Roboz

From US to Canada-M.

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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: shipping BD horns across borders


 Dear List,
 
Has anyone experience with sending bd horns across the border from 
 US into Canada.?  Is there any restriction?  If so, a way around it?
 cheers, Michael
 
 Which way are you going, Michael? -Allan PS I mean 'which way are the 
 HORNS going?'
 
 




Re: shipping BD horns across borders

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

Dear List,

   Has anyone experience with sending bd horns across the border from 
US into Canada.?  Is there any restriction?  If so, a way around it?
cheers, Michael

Which way are you going, Michael? -Allan PS I mean 'which way are the 
HORNS going?'




Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in BD Cultivati...

2002-02-05 Thread Allane67
Who is A.P.?


Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder inBD Cultivati...

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

Who is A.P.?

Who, for that matter, is Allane67? -Allan




Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder inBD Cultivati...

2002-02-05 Thread Steven McFadden
Title: Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in BD Cultivati...





I am a small land holder (20 Ht) on the far Nth coast of NSW. 

Allan Emerton. 

Hi AllanE,
Are you near Wollombin (Mount Warning) ? 

That mountain holds a crucial place in the lore of Aboriginal peoples of Australia and North America. A tale for the times !

Welcome aboard Earthship BDNow, Steven




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Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder inBD Cultivati...

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Farr

Steven:

I'd like to know more about Wollombin.

How is this mountain woven into the Dreamtime - and do you know the
song?

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Drought update

2002-02-05 Thread D S Chamberlain

3 inches of rain in last 24 hours, ah life is good!
David C




Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder inBD Cultivati...

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

Who is AllanE67?.
I am a small land holder (20 Ht) on the far Nth coast of NSW.

Allan Emerton.

Then it's fallen to me to tell you that A.P. refers to Alex 
Podolinsky, best known in the US for the 3 volumes of BIODYNAMIC 
AGRICULTURE that he has written. Hopefully, a member of his 
Association will come foreward and tell us all more (and maybe 
confirm this 2,000,000 acre figure).  Podolinsky is often held up as 
the living proof that biodynamics can be dramatically successful. 
Unfortunately, more and more it appears that one must accept his 
claims of success through faith, rather than through objectively 
verified evidence.

-Allan




Shanti Yoga busted for Whole Milk Sales

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

I don't have this from the horse's mouth, maybe someone reading does 
and will share with the group.

I hear that Victor was busted at Shanti Yoga for selling 
unpastuerized milk to a Maryland  state inspector.

I also hear that Victor's unexplicable carelessness has now 
threatened the future of Seven Stars dairy. As you may remember from 
over a year ago, Seven Stars manager David Griffiths was paralyzed by 
a farming accident. His wife Edie has stuggled to keep the business 
going. If you don't know: 7 Stars is a Demeter-certified dairy that 
produces the best tasting yogurt to be found in most any coop cooler.

Anyone who can help 7 Stars, please do. (Hopefully, the threat to 
them is exaggerated.)

Pray for Victor. It seems that his IT still rolls over his higher 
self in rather spectacular ways and at inappropriate times.

Does anyone know the future of the Shanti/Kimberton CSA?

Contact info below.

Edie Griffiths
Seven Stars Farm
P O Box 560
Kimberton PA 19442
(610) 935-1949




Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in BDCultivation?

2002-02-05 Thread Lloyd Charles


- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder in
BDCultivation?


Allan
  First I think if you examine further, the statement used to be 
under BD management
Then consider this : 2 million acres is a big lot of country to most of us
but get out into the dry inland of Australia and its only a couple of
average size cattle stations (ranches),   Australia is roughly the same size
(area and distances) as the United States.  FORGET the 2 million acres there
is a strong upsurge in the number of PEOPLE  becoming involved through the
non AP groups all around the country. Some of these newcomers are also
prepared to look outside the square and bring their own ideas and
imagination so there is some good things happening with field broadcasters,
homeopathy etc.  This is not to denigrate the work done by AP over many
years, after all he had the guts and determination to put BD on national
television at a time when Organic agriculture was the lunatic fringe!
Cheers
 Lloyd Charles












Re: Friends in Oz: are there REALLY 2,000,000 acres downunder inBDCultivation?

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

This is not to denigrate the work done by AP over many
years, after all he had the guts and determination to put BD on national
television at a time when Organic agriculture was the lunatic fringe!
Cheers
  Lloyd Charles

No intention to 'denigrate,' Lloyd. Just a desire to substantiate.
I agree with you. I spoke with some OZ graziers at Acres who had tens 
of thousands of acres they were managing. There was apparently little 
of anything on this land, with the exception of kangaroos.

So, we come up the other side here: for those of us who think of 
biodynamics as 'garden quality farming' and imagine 2,000,000 lush 
acres of BD managed land downunder, the reality may well be something 
else.

Which, on a positive note, brings us back to the original question: 
are there 2,000,000 acres under BD management in Australia currently 
or are there not?

Thanks, Lloyd.

-Allan




[Fwd: organic herb farms]

2002-02-05 Thread Rambler

Hi to New Zealand list folk.

Can any one help Eva. Please contact her direct.

Many thanks 
Tony Robinson
Rambler Flowers 
Levin New Zealand

---BeginMessage---

To whom it may concern,

I am a student of organic agriculture in Witzenhausen, Germany. I would
like
to do an aprenticeship in the field of growing and processing of herbs
for medical
use, teas, herbs, etc. For that reason I would like to have more
information on farms
that grow herbs in New Zealand, if possible.
Thank you in advance,

Yours very sincerly,
Eva Gemmel




---End Message---


Re: Drought update

2002-02-05 Thread Gil Robertson

The dynamics of drought are very interesting.

The Dor Buster was very dangerous to use as it resulted in the Dor being
channelled back to the device. With what we are doing and Hugh Lovel,
who gave me the idea, does,  is clearing the Dor, or what ever it is
that is stopping precipitation and allowing the normal process to take
place. I would expect that the remainder of the season will be normal to
more than normal and that the following year would also be normal. Of
course I am working on only limited data as yet.

If it gets to be too much, just put the Horsetail in, but remove it as
soon as it stops, not even an hour later, or you will cause drought.

Gil

D  S Chamberlain wrote:

 3 inches of rain in last 24 hours, ah life is good!
 David C




Re: Shanti Yoga busted for Whole Milk Sales

2002-02-05 Thread Mary Ann Skillman


I am a CSA member of Kimberton which delivers during the season to Shanti Yoga drop off. The dairy products of milk, cream and cheese were meant for the CSA members however milk was sold to a state inspector who sent a long cease and desist letter to all involved. I do not want to say where the cream came from in writing and comment because I do not want to incriminate the entity which so generously donated the cream to the CSA.Many of us had grown healthier from that act of kindness.
It seems that there were still be a Kimberton CSA sans dairy.

Does anyone know the future of the Shanti/Kimberton CSA? 
 
Contact info below. 
 
Edie Griffiths 
Seven Stars Farm 
P O Box 560 
Kimberton PA 19442 
(610) 935-1949 
 
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