Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Thank you for posting this Glen. I am most concerned about the coming period, based on other lines of information. Your astrology fits in within the possibility coming from other non astrological sources. Gil Glen Atkinson wrote: Hugh Below are the significant relationships and therefore dates to watch for.
Re: OT Re: To contribute to testing
Bonnie - If people have your paypal id they can simply go to the paypal site and make the size donation they are comfortable with to your account. PayPal also offers good support. I'm in the field all day every day right now, or I'd offer to walk you through this offline. Just saying this to encourage you: PayPal is a VERY EASY SYSTEM TO USE. Hopefully someone on BD Now! can walk you through this offline. Good Luck! -Allan Hello Allan and All, Sorry, I haven't been at the computer in a day or so. Taking care of one of my daughters who has had a tonsillectomy. Hectic and nervewracking. Sorry to post this to the group in general, but I don't know what else to do. I still have been able to not figure out how others can send their contributions to my account. Allan, if you or anyone else knows how the Paypal works, let me know. I do have an account, just confirmed on Saturday finally. There is a form that I can send to request payments from people, but I need to write in a dollar amount. Bonnie
Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Title: Re: OFF: Astrological portents Allan, you wrote: So, I don't get it, Glen. I don't think anyone in this country thinks of GW as a leader if part of being a leader is making decisions and acting on them. It's pretty obvious that he's just the token that a group of unknowns put into the White House and operate through. Are aspects really relevant when anticipating the actions of an individual who lacks Free Will? This does seem to be the point. Symbols can have much greater impact when they are unencumbered by free will. $ LL Markess
To contribute to testing
Okay, I may have this. Anyone who wants to contribute to the testing can go to PayPal.com My ID is my email address. This account is only for the purpose of collecting for the testing. As soon as those who have contacted Allan or I have contributed I will let you know what the total is and make arrangements for the testing. Again, my ID is: froghaven(at sign) spiretech.com Thanks, Bonnie
Re: The banning of seed exchange legislation
Hello bdnow friends, Because I'm a check for yourself kind of person, I went to the draft document and read it. I believe it possible that it would/could be applied to biodynamic preps if we are purchasing them through the mail and they cross state lines. I appears to me that anything that is a plant product that is sent interstate will be affected by this. Bonnie
Universe in synch (was Astrological portents)
Hugh (in particular) - did you ever come across the
news that two Japanese astrophysicists had detected the 'music of the spheres'
? I read it in 'New Scientist' a couple of years ago and have now
lost that issue but, in essence, these two were analysing the vibrations of
planet Earth. They gradually eliminated individual frequencies as they
assigned sources to each and eventually found that there remained one frequency
which apparently had no detectable source. They concluded that this is the
natural frequency of the planet, and that each celestial body has its own
characteristic frequency. This, to me, seems one of the most fundamental
validations for astrology - certainly worth quoting at those scoffers who
conveniently assume that the only influence such a body could have is by its
gravity, and thus 'demolish' astrology byshowing that a passing vehicle
has a stronger local gravitational effect than the nearest planet.
It ties in with an assertion by
Dr Percy Seymour,a very brave professional astronomer who supports
astrology ('The scientific basis of astrology', Quantum Books, 1997),
thata foetus recognisestheset of frequencies which define its
character and chooses to be born when external frequencies fit this - rather
than being defined by whichever set of frequencies happen to be vibrating at the
time of its birth. Makes one wonder what damage is being done by medical
intervention in the birth process
?
Tony N-S.
Knapweed
Is Merla's knapweed the same as ours in Britain -
Centaurea scabiosa or C. nigra (also known as Hardheads ? I have it
occasionally in a rough lawn on an old cinder patch but don't find it at all
invasive (it can easily be mown out). It is,
indeed,attractiveand valuable as the major food-plant
ofcinnabar moth larvae ('football jersey'
caterpillars). Tony
N-S.
Re: OT Re: To contribute to testing
Allan, I thought you didn't want us to do things 'offline'?! In any case, if there's someone who understands Paypal and is willing to talk Bonnie through, would they please include me on their instructions? Many thanks Hilary - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: OT Re: To contribute to testing Bonnie - If people have your paypal id they can simply go to the paypal site and make the size donation they are comfortable with to your account. PayPal also offers good support. I'm in the field all day every day right now, or I'd offer to walk you through this offline. Just saying this to encourage you: PayPal is a VERY EASY SYSTEM TO USE. Hopefully someone on BD Now! can walk you through this offline. Good Luck! -Allan Hello Allan and All, Sorry, I haven't been at the computer in a day or so. Taking care of one of my daughters who has had a tonsillectomy. Hectic and nervewracking. Sorry to post this to the group in general, but I don't know what else to do. I still have been able to not figure out how others can send their contributions to my account. Allan, if you or anyone else knows how the Paypal works, let me know. I do have an account, just confirmed on Saturday finally. There is a form that I can send to request payments from people, but I need to write in a dollar amount. Bonnie
Re: Draft Plan for the Noxious Weeds Prog-Seed Savers EX email
SSE wrote: Dear Merla Barberie, Thank you for your e-mail concerning the USDA's Draft Action Plan for the Noxious Weeds Program and possible ramifications for the programs of Seed Savers Exchange. We have carefully reviewed the plan, which deals only with noxious weeds and invasives. The proposed plan does not include vegetables and apparently would not impact Seed Savers' work in any way. We have no way of knowing, however, if this is USDA's first step in gradually restricting other plants as well, which is apparently what J. L. Hudson is attempting to stop right now by sending his warning to 1,400 nurseries and specifically mentioning SSE. Thank you for your concern, but we do not think that this will affect the efforts of the Seed Savers Exchange. Best wishes, Kent Whealy Executive Director - Original Message - From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent and Diane Whealy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Statutes to ban exchange of seeds in Draft Weed Control Legislation Kent and Diane, A certified organic grower sent me this. I need to know what you think. Are you aware of this? Do you need support? I am having trouble with similar legislation already in place for soil and plant amendments...$100 fee to register each soil amendment with the state. This is impossible for 501(c)(3) organizations like the Josephine Porter Institite. What say thou? Merla Barberie 1251 Rolling Thunder Ridge Sandpoint, ID 83864 J. L. HUDSON, SEEDSMAN, STAR ROUTE 2, BOX 337, LA HONDA, CALIFORNIA 94020 USA USDA Plans Severe Gardening Restrictions Direct quotes from USDA Action Plan Clean list - Everything not on government approved list banned. Penalties - $1000 for home gardeners, up to $250,000 for nurseries. Interstate movement of seeds - Prohibited without permit and inspection. Send objections to the USDA Write your representative (Sample letter) What President Bush says Your help is needed. The USDA is now accepting public comments on their Draft Action Plan for the Noxious Weeds Program, which includes the clean list or white list proposal. They are now going beyond the clean list and are stating that they intend to require permits and inspections for ALL seeds and plants moving interstate ? this will effectively shut down many popular seed exchanges like the North American Rock Garden Society exchange and the Seed Saver's Exchange. These exchanges have been hailed as important means of preserving biodiversity. How many home seed savers will be willing to get appropriate licenses and inspections when they cost a minimum of $100 (for a nursery stock or seed license here in California). Penalties of up to $250,000 are proposed with a minimum fine of $1000 even for home gardeners. Please link to this page. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and state you are opposed to the clean list and any permit or inspection requirements for interstate movement of seeds and plants. State that the Draft Action Plan for the Noxious Weeds Program is unacceptable must be halted, additional time for public comment allowed, and no new restrictions on the free flow of any seeds and plants that are not listed noxious weeds be put in place. Send 4 copies of your comments to: Docket No. 01-034-1 Regulatory Analysis and Development PPD, APHIS Suite 3C03 4700 River Road, Unit 118 Riverdale, MD 20737-1238 This is necessary so that your e-mails will not simply be deleted. Last year, the USDA requested comments on its clean list proposal - they received an overwhelming response - 8 to 1 against, yet they are ignoring the clear will of the American people. The government tried to impose a clean list policy three times during the 1970s, and had to back down each time due to negative response from biologists. Apparently, no is not an acceptable response. The public comment period ends March 29th, but it is important to keep up pressure even after this date, particularly by writing your representatives. The USDA is clearly out of touch with the American people. They just got through the huge furor when they tried to impose Organic Rules which allowed irradiation and toxic sewage sludge use. They have also instituted new phytosanitary certificate requirements which they admit are designed to prevent you from ordering from overseas. Please object to the new phytosanitary rules in your letter, too. Write to your representatives and demand that the out-of-control USDA be reined in. These proposals fundamentally change the regulations on the importation and distribution of plants. Currently, you may import, possess and distribute all plants except a few known harmful species that are banned ? a blacklist approach in which everything is permitted except what is prohibited.
Knapweed
At 12:02 PM 4/4/02 -0500, Tony wrote:
Is
Merla's knapweed the same as ours in Britain - Centaurea scabiosa or C.
nigra (also known as Hardheads ?
Names are confusing.
Spotted knpweed is Centaurea maculosa
Hardhead is sometimes used as common name for C.
macrocephalea, one of my favorite garden flowers. well behaved tho it has
thugish cousins.
I have it
occasionally in a rough lawn on an old cinder patch but don't find it at
all invasive (it can easily be mown out). It is, indeed, attractive
and valuable as the major food-plant of cinnabar moth larvae ('football
jersey' caterpillars).
Tansy ragwort Senecio spp. is the host for cinnabar moth, at least over
here.
not to be confused with common tansy Tanacetum vulgare
==
Dave Robison
Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Hugh and Tony Hugh Lovel wrote: People ought to know that everything in the universe is in synch or it would not exist and could not manifest. I am continually struck by this reality the more and more I look at what is real from Astronomy. How can it be any other way. Where is the impermeable membrane that must be there for the scientists world view to work. It is false as they say 'the ether' is. How can humans be the only creature in creation separate and uneffected by creation? Is this not the ultimate in arrogance and madness? Tony wrote certainly worth quoting at those scoffers who conveniently assume that the only influence such a body could have is by its gravity, and thus 'demolish' astrology by showing that a passing vehicle has a stronger local gravitational effect than the nearest planet. Does this statement of the scoffers not suggest that gravity is a function of movement rather than mass? Where does gravity function without movement? The more I look the more I see 'movement' as the forgotten element in most views of creation. Are you standing still right now or are you moving/spinning at 115,000 mph through space? If so whats gravity? Are you being pulled to the Earth or are you being pushed? I say you are being pushed tot he Earth by the spinning, like the millions of tons of cosmic dust sucked into the Earth each year due to our spin thru space, not the mysterious gravity which somehow 'attracts' us from the centre of the Earth. And what spinning object does not have an electro magnetic field? and how does this field influence the attraction so often allotted to gravity? cheers Glen A cheers Glen
Re: Testing Preps
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 11:24 AM, Merla wrote: Bonnie, I just signed up for PayPal and sent my money. I signed up my bank account, but I sent the money by my credit card--a mistake because you can't receive credit card payments. Tell me what to do? Do you upgrade your account or refuse my payment and I resend it from my bank account. I'm sorry. Okay Merla, We'll get the hang of this yetG I can't recieve credit card payments unless I upgrade to a business or premier account. I can/will refuse your credit card payment and then I think you can send directly from your bank account or a Paypal account. Hope you are feeling more positive about your road weed project. Bonnie
Re: Chemtrails and shellfish poisoning
New Zealand has shell fish to toxic to eat from time to time. The effect is that the tounge and lips go tingly then numb if a little is eaten. If more is eaten more of the ailimentary tract is affected. Can cause death if enough is eaten. We generaly associate this with polution but I'm not sure that precise causes are known yet. Cheers. Peter. - Original Message - From: Anthony Nelson-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: Chemtrails and shellfish poisoning Thanks, Nancy and Michael. Seems like we've not experienced them here yet, then. We do have our own local mystery, tho' - for the last couple of months, the cockle fishery in our estuary has been closed because of Diarrheic Shellfish Poisoning. Poisoning of shellfish is usually due to a bloom of micro-algae, but only this estuary (the Burry Inlet/Loughor Estuary) seems to be affected. Three other rivers enter Carmarthen Bay and surely micro-algae would have gone up their estuaries, too: but cockles are still collected at Ferryside on the Tywi. There's talk of a mysterious toxin which no-one seems able (or willing ?) to identify - but then, it would have to be some outfall into the Loughor because, obviously, components of a chemtrail would fall over an even wider area. Tony N-S,
Re: Testing Preps
I can't recieve credit card payments unless I upgrade to a business or premier account. I can/will refuse your credit card payment and then I think you can send directly from your bank account or a Paypal account. Hope you are feeling more positive about your road weed project. Anyone who needs to make a credit card payment can do it to my PayPal account at [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, anyone who has been holding off making a donation to BD Now! due to being overseas or need to use a credit card, etc is more than welcome to make a contribution via this PayPal account. (But let me know your intent.) Thanks to the couple who recently made a contribution to support putting voice audio on line! -Allan
