Rate Books, Heironymous, & Malcolm Rae

[Wes Watkins]

Title: Re: Deer disease and BD Preps



Markess (& other BDNOW listers) -  
 
After reading your post to Lloyd (Re: Deer disease and BD 

Preps - 6/10/02), I went to 
the Little Farm Research website
in search of info about radionic 'rate' books.  
Since I 
found no specific mention of a 'rate' book, I wrote 
requesting such info as they may be able to provide.
 
In the meantime, I'm curious to learn of other sources
which might be able to provide rate books, Heironymous
(sp ?) instruments, & Malcolm Rae cards.  I've E-mailed
a similar request to the Radionic Association in England,
& was referred to Nick Franks www.nicko500.co.uk .
Again, I have yet to receive a reply.
 

Can you recommend books, &/or websites, that provide 
instructions on devising/constructing Rae-type cards  ?
 
Might anyone on this list already possess, or have created,
an electronic (floppy/CD) database of rates they/you
would be willing to $ell ?   How about electronic (scanned 
?)Rae Cards ?  
 
Are Heironymous instruments being made these days ?
If they are still available, what is fair US market $ for 
one ?
 
Thank you.
- Wes
 
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  - Original Message - 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:07 
PM
  Subject: Re: Deer disease and BD 
  Preps
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White House Opposes Biotech Labels + Calls For FDA Overhaul

[Wes Watkins]

White House Opposes Biotech Labels
http://healthy.net/asp/templates/news.asp?Id=4953

TORONTO (AP) - The Bush administration opposes the labeling of genetically 
engineered food, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson told the 
world's premier biotechnology industry gathering. 
``Mandatory labeling will only frighten consumers,'' he said during a 
breakfast speech Monday at the BIO 2002 conference. ``Labeling implies that 
biotechnology products are unsafe.'' 
Labeling food produced through genetic engineering is a touchy subject for 
the U.S. biotech industry, both at home and abroad. Domestically, the industry 
worries that labels would sour consumer demand. 
Abroad, however, 19 countries require labeling and the European Union has 
since 1998 banned the sale of any new engineered products. The ban has angered 
U.S. exporters and hampered the growth of European agricultural biotech firms. 
The EU is expected to consider lifting the ban later this year, but may require 
labeling. 
Some 70 percent of the world's biotech food is grown in the United States. 
Soy and corn genetically engineered to be pest- or herbicide-resistant are used 
in a wide variety of foods and drinks. The Food and Drug Administration says the 
ingredients are just as safe as those produced by conventional methods. 
U.S. officials have said the labeling could cost U.S. companies $4 billion a 
year. 
Thompson said biotechnology can lead to safer food that are better for the 
environment because of improved crop yields, among other benefits. 
Critics complain that not enough testing has been done to determine the 
long-term health effects of splicing the genes of two species together to create 
food. 
``The science is so immature, we don't know what we are doing,'' Canadian 
genetics professor David Suzuki said at an anti-biotech rally in a Toronto park 
on Sunday. If you took Bono out of U2 and stuck him in the Toronto Symphony and 
said make music, noise would come out but you have no way of knowing what it 
would sound like.'' 
Thompson on Monday also called on drug makers to lower their costs and 
promised to overhaul the approval process of the FDA. 
``We are creating an FDA where risk management is the rule and not the 
exception,'' he said. ``You will not recognize the FDA a year from now.'' 
He said the FDA currently treats all applications the same, whether its for 
cosmetics or lifesaving drugs. 
While the FDA is streamlining its application process, Thompson called on 
drug makers to lower the cost of their products. 
``They're looked at as part of the problem instead of part of the solution,'' 
he told a news conference. Some drugs sold in the United States sell for 40 
percent less in other countries, including Canada, Thompson noted. 
If drug companies don't heed the call to lower their prices, public and 
regulatory pressure could ultimately lead to price controls, he said. 
Thompson also said that the impact on his department of President Bush's 
proposal to create a Department of Homeland Security have not yet been detailed. 
Bush proposed to move 300 workers, mostly involved with bioterrorism research, 
and $4 billion from Thompson's agency to the new department. 
Thompson also said a permanent FDA chief could be nominated ``within a few 
weeks.'' The post has been vacant since Bush's 
inauguration.

Re: Help with Glycyrrhiza glabra when to plant?

[Kent J Carson]

my experience with licorice root...  i planted the russian version , yes you
should plant the chinese.i didn't and just harvestedthe 4 yr old russian
root last fall and it taste way yukkie! it may have the same medicinals or
not ,but it is an abdaptagene so i think taste is important. so plant it in
a pot on a root day and get some chinese.. live and learn :)sharon
- Original Message -
From: "jsherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bdnow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Help with Glycyrrhiza glabra when to plant?


> Hello,
> I have licorice which I am not sure whether to consider a root or stem
> plant? Steven Foster says it is an underground stem, Richter's little
> plastic thing that came with the plant says the underground stolons are
used
> for flavoring etc (oops, is that what a stolon is? An underground stem?).
I
> guess I thought it was roots being used? Should I have gotten the Chinese
> variety for medicinal use?
>
> Anyone know? I was thinking of using that little window this morning (8-11
> am EST) to plant it even though we're just after the eclipse. One of them
is
> begging to go into the ground, the other two are growing fast, and I would
> rather not wait a week.
>
> Anyone with experience? Thanks,
>
> Jane
>
>
>

Fw: [globalnews] u.s. opposes labeling genetically engineered food

[jsherry]

http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06112002/reu_47503.asp


U.S. opposes labeling genetically engineered
food
By Deena Beasley, Reuters
Tuesday, June 11, 2002

TORONTO - The U.S. White House is against adopting regulations, already in
use in some countries, that would require companies to label foods that use
genetically engineered ingredients, Health and Human Services Secretary
Tommy Thompson said Monday.

Thompson said labeling foods as genetically altered "puts fear in the
market"
and would serve only to stymie innovation in the rapidly advancing
biotechnology food industry.

"I don't think it solves the problem. Mandatory labeling doesn't work," he
said at
the annual meeting of the Biotechnology Industry Organization, the trade
group
representing the fields of health care, agricultural, industrial, and
environmental
biotechnology.

Last year the group's conference, held in San Diego, was targeted by
marchers
opposed to so-called "Frankenfoods," but their ranks fell short of
forecasts.
Here in Toronto, the scene is even more subdued; protesters staged a brief
rally
on Sunday, and there are no concrete barriers, although the police presence
is
still noticeable.

Some countries already require labels to state whether food contains, for
instance, corn whose genes have been altered to enable the organism to
resist
the corn borer pest. But the United States does not.

"We are concerned about food safety. None of these crops have been tested
for safety," said Charles Margulis, genetic engineering specialist at the
environmental group Greenpeace.

The European Union, unnerved by food safety scares such as mad cow disease,
has banned new biotech crops from other parts of the world for the past
three
years. The United States is by far the largest producer of genetically
altered
corn- and soy-based food.

No one really knows what happens when plants that have not evolved in nature
are consumed by humans, Margulis said. "There could be allergies, increased
toxins, or other unexpected side effects," he said.

In the United States, weed- and pest-resistant versions of six crops -
soybeans, corn, cotton, papaya, squash, and canola - are now being grown,
and many other transgenic plants are being developed.

Last month, a report by the U.S. General Accounting Office said the U.S.
Food
and Drug Administration had adequately tested the safety of new biotech
foods
before allowing them to be sold, and consumers who ate bioengineered foods
were not at a higher risk of allergies or toxic reactions.

A biotech corn variety not approved for human consumption slipped into the
food supply in late 2000, sparking a nationwide recall of more than 300
kinds of
corn-based foods. StarLink was approved only for animal feed due to concern
that it might cause allergic reactions in humans. Several U.S. class action
suits
are pending against Aventis CropScience, which made StarLink.

A National Academy of Sciences panel in February said the government had
allowed food manufacturers to market biotech crops without fully probing
their
potential environmental impact.



Copyright 2002 - Reuters

Any reprinting, rebroadcast or digital transmission of this
work without written permission from Environmental News Network, Inc. is
strictly prohibited.

Fw: [globalnews] GM contamination spreads in Mexico

[jsherry]

BBC News

Sunday, 9 June, 2002, 13:09 GMT 14:09 UK
GM contamination spreads in Mexico


Scientists fear crop varieties will be dramatically reduced



  By Nick Miles
  BBC correspondent in Mexico


Political leaders and academics begin a three day meeting in Rome on Monday
to discuss issues surrounding global food security.
The United Nations World Food Summit will be looking at the spread of
genetically modified crop strains as well as the immediate problem of famine
in parts of southern Africa.



  Our best guess is that the Mexican corn harvests have been
contaminated by imported corn from the United States

  Juan Martin
  Laboratory manager
Recent reports from Mexico suggest that despite a moratorium on planting GM
corn strains, wild varieties have become contaminated by laboratory
developed plants.

The most heavily contaminated area is in Oaxaca, where up to a quarter of
corn samples have tested positive for GM.

GM contamination

The area is home to thousands of small subsistence farmers. High up in the
central mountains of the state one such farmer, Olga Maldonado, is weeding
her tiny plantation of corn. It's just forty metres square and barely
provides enough food for her and her family.

"Corn is our way of life," she told me, as she worked under the harsh
tropical sun. "Most of what we eat like tortillas and thick soups come from
the crop."


  Research has yet to prove GM foods are harmful

But six months ago Olga got a shock. Tests showed that her field had been
contaminated with genetically modified corn. Now she says she's worried
about the possible effects on the heath of her children.

"I'm concerned because our children eat corn all the time. We don't know
whether it's safe to eat or not. The government has told us nothing about
these GM plants. Absolutely nothing."

Just 16 kilometres away down a dirt track in the incongruous setting of
rural Mexico, white coated workers at a hi-tech laboratory are testing
samples of corn from across the country. The hum of electrical stirrers
fills the air as the corn goes though the rigorous testing procedures.

This privately funded work has found widespread GM contamination in corn
samples from across Mexico.

"Despite the moratorium on GM crop growing four years ago, many GM strains
have slipped through the net," says Juan Martin, who's in charge at the lab.



  We've had a number of different campaigns aimed at telling farmers not
to use imported corn as seed

  Victor Arambula, Mexican agriculture spokesman
"Our best guess is that the Mexican corn harvests have been contaminated by
imported corn from the United States," he says.

"That corn was supposed to be for human consumption but farmers weren't
aware of that and they sowed it in their fields."

Genie released

It's difficult to assess the Mexican Government's stance on the issue. State
and federal governments seem to contradict each other on the significance
and even the very existence of GM contamination.


  Halberg fears food security will be affected

"If there is GM contamination then it's not because of any government
failure," says Victor Arambula, spokesman for the Mexican agriculture
ministry.

"We've had a number of different campaigns aimed at telling farmers not to
use imported corn as seed.

"Over the last four years, we've made it perfectly clear to farmers that
this contamination might happen."

However it happened, the GM genie is now out of the bottle. And many people
are worried.

Whilst there is no universally accepted research proving any health risks
from eating GM crops, environmentalists say that many GM strains encourage
pests to become tolerant to insecticides.

"There will also be a drastic reduction in the variety of corn strains in
Mexico," Boone Hallberg told me. Mr Hallberg, a sprightly 79-year-old US
educated botanist, has been working with Mexican corn growers for almost
four decades.


  Maldonado's field has been contaminated

"Until now, when there's been a virus in other parts of the world, people
have been able to come here to find strains resistant to the virus," he
tells me as we walk through his organic corn fields.

"GM contamination will change all that. The thousands of varieties here will
be lost forever, threatening food security around the world."

Meanwhile for small farmers like Olga the concerns are more immediate. Every
mealtime is now a worrying time for her. She has to feed her children corn
tortillas made from her now genetically modified crops by a farmer who
unwittingly tainted her own land.

"I feel misled by the government," she says as she ladles some steaming corn
drink into a bowl. "As usual in Mexico the needs of the farmers here have
been overlooked".



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Be the change
you want to see in the world.
-- Mahatma Gandhi

OFF: Fw: [globalnews] Only the FBI could spend a year in the French Quarter and find just 12 prostitutes

[jsherry]

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-39957jun07.story?coll=
la%2Dnews%2Dcomment%2Dopinions
COMMENTARY

A Comedy of Eros
Only the FBI could spend a year in the French Quarter and find just 12
prostitutes
By JONATHAN TURLEY
Jonathan Turley teaches constitutional law at George Washington University
School of Law.

June 7 2002

When I lived in New Orleans, I was told about a trial before one of our
state judges in which a local madam appeared under a charge of assaulting an
officer. The bordello was periodically subject to routine sweeps by the
police to "keep up appearances." The madam, however, was mistaken on the
appointed time and, according to one arresting officer, slammed a swinging
door in his face.

On cross-examination, the madam denied the allegation and insisted that
there was no swinging door in that room. When the prosecutor expressed
skepticism, the madam turned to the judge and said, "Judge, you know ...
there is no swinging door in that parlor."

The story captured the attitude of local authorities toward bordellos in
Louisiana. In New Orleans, houses of ill-repute are some of the oldest
institutions in the French Quarter and are often cited on tours as virtual
cultural landmarks. Prostitution itself is a misdemeanor, a law universally
honored in the breach. This is a view not shared by Atty. Gen. John
Ashcroft's Justice Department.

This week, the Justice Department announced the results of a long
investigation of a French Quarter bordello that serviced a virtual who's who
of New Orleans elite, including at least one judge.

For more than 13 months, the Justice Department has conducted a major
investigation of this bordello, producing hundreds of pages of surveillance
transcripts and reports by 10 FBI agents. With considerable fanfare, the
Justice Department touted its "catch" in a news conference: 12 prostitutes.

Only the FBI could go to the French Quarter and find just a dozen
prostitutes after a year of investigation. Given the roughly one-to-one
ratio between agents and prostitutes, the FBI could have produced a hundred
times this number by having agents walk down Bourbon Street.

In some parts of New Orleans, a "sting operation" for prostitutes requires
the simple opening of a car door.

Of course, when the Justice Department convinced an unwitting judge to sign
this surveillance order, it had promised something far more alluring. It
insisted that the bordello would reveal mob dealings as well as criminal
activities by an infamous gang. It further assured the judge that the
bordello was a hot spot for major drug transactions.

Ultimately, the surveillance failed to nail a single mobster or gang member.

As for the drugs, the FBI carefully made a case against a 62-year-old woman
who sold small amounts of marijuana for personal use at the location--often
a joint at a time.

When confronted by the ludicrous "haul" of 12 prostitutes, the Justice
Department was unapologetic and insisted that this was a major law
enforcement victory. Federal prosecutor Sal Perricone spoke for the Justice
Department when he pledged more of such enforcement.

'We'll seek it out, we'll find it, we'll grab it by the scruff of the neck,
and we're going to prosecute it," Perricone said.

That is certainly reassuring. While it was revealed this week that the FBI
largely ignored CIA identifications of known terrorists in the U.S. before
Sept. 11, it appears that it was able to find prostitutes in New Orleans.

It simply boggles the mind how such an investigation could have been
approved, let alone continued after the September attacks.

When these agents were carefully recording calls to a bordello, hundreds of
other agents were being shifted from major crimes to homeland security.
While Ashcroft was seeking expanded powers to listen in on suspected
terrorists, these agents were listening to the descriptions of particular
prostitutes and their special "capabilities."

Agents carefully recorded the strict rates of $200 to $300 an hour and how
the mother-daughter team that ran the bordello could barely pay their bills
on their 50% take. The mother and daughter are now cooperating in the
prosecution of their former "employees."

None of the johns (including the judge, respected lawyers, stockbrokers,
bankers and civic leaders) have been charged.

Though the Justice Department found federal crimes for the prostitutes, they
could not imagine a federal crime for the johns.

Such matters, they explained, are strictly matters for local enforcement.

The Justice Department is half-right. It was all a matter for local concern.

The Justice Department insists that it had jurisdiction in this case because
some of the prostitutes crossed state lines. However, this merely explains
that the government could investigate, not that it should.

Most any crime today has some element that crosses state lines, but we
expect the Justice Department to resist temptation.

One can certainly appreciate that it is more interes

RE: Help with Glycyrrhiza glabra when to plant?

[M.N.]

Jane writes: >>Should I have gotten the Chinese variety for medicinal use?<<

Jane,
I can't tell you too much about when to plant this guy, there are better
experts here than I, but I can give my two cents about the plant
medicinally.

Generally, I favour using the herbs from where you are, so American Licorice
(glabra) if you are over here. But, in this case, one point to consider is
that in some people, Licorice can aggravate hypertension by causing sodium
retention, and the Chinese Licorice (uralensis) has less of a tendency to do
this than the American you have.

I am not of the mindset that there are any inherently dangerous plants, and
I don't want to be seen as being on the anti-Licorice (or Comfrey, or
Chaparral, or whatever else suddenly becomes "dangerous" according to FDA)
bandwagon. Unless your hypertension is severe, most of American Licorice's
effects can be balanced out by extra water, potassium (i.e. take it with
Dandelion), and moderation of use. But, just so you know, the Chinese does
seem to act in a more balanced way at least regarding this issue.

I do know that both are really easy to grow, and lovely in their rambling
pea-vetchy way, I am quite fond of their "wood candy" roots. Both types
contain amazing healing properties wrapped up in beautifully complex
chemistries, I hope you get to know them well!

Strength & Wisdom,
Micah




Al-Qemi- Alchemical & Spagyric products for healing body, spirit & soul.
Visit us on the web at: www.al-qemi.com 

Laura's Mystery Flower

[M.N.]

Laura,
What you've got there is Salsify, or Oyster Plant, Tragopogon 
porrifolius. It also comes in yellow, which is more common than the lovely 
purple-blue one you have.
 
It is caled Oyster Plant because the root has a 
seafood flavour, with hints of artichoke, and it is an old edible wild plant, 
cultivated in the Mediterranean for thousands of years. As a child, I had an 
elderly German neighbour who used to grow it & make a sort of pie with it, 
with a tart-type crust, sort of like French onion pie, with cheese, etc. It was 
really good.
 
Like dandelion & many others of its 
relatives, Salsify gives a milky sap when you break its stem, especially near 
the flower bud. I don't know much about what it means in your field, I know it 
grows in a lot of diverse places & is a tough little 
plant.
 
Strength & Wisdom,
Micah
Al-Qemi- 
Alchemical & Spagyric products for healing body, spirit & soul. Visit us 
on the web at: www.al-qemi.com
 

Help with Glycyrrhiza glabra when to plant?

[jsherry]

Hello,
I have licorice which I am not sure whether to consider a root or stem
plant? Steven Foster says it is an underground stem, Richter's little
plastic thing that came with the plant says the underground stolons are used
for flavoring etc (oops, is that what a stolon is? An underground stem?). I
guess I thought it was roots being used? Should I have gotten the Chinese
variety for medicinal use?

Anyone know? I was thinking of using that little window this morning (8-11
am EST) to plant it even though we're just after the eclipse. One of them is
begging to go into the ground, the other two are growing fast, and I would
rather not wait a week.

Anyone with experience? Thanks,

Jane

FW: OJD

[Moen Creek]

Title: FW: OJD




Vince wrote:
--
From: "Vince Heffernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:41:42 +1000
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OJD



>>
>>OR a wasting disease similar to the Johnes that has been 
>>around in sheep
>>and
>>cattle for ages? 
>>I haven't studied Johnes but the Acres US articles make it to be 
>>mainly
>>nutritional problem.
 
Hi

I'm currently quarantined for Ovine Johnnes Disease [OJD].  I don't 
have it but the local beaurcracy will not let me "move" sheep off my 
place because of a positive test that showed the disease from a 
fellow I bought rams from a decade back (he had one sheep in 600, 
it would seem he got the disease as a result of a neighbour).  The 
Government here knows Sweet-nothing about the disease and how 
to handle it but there has been some from the Ag science 
community who have built extremely successful 'empires' within 
the state department of agriculture.  They are ore interested in 
keeping their inflated positions of power than solving the disease 
and people like me who refuse to partake in their capers piss them 
off.  [hence the quarantine they stuck on me.]

It is a wasting disease but has little to do with nutrition in that i 
know people who have it and only saw it's impact 3 years ago 
(we've had a run of good seasons [bad one now] so it wasn't that 
stock lacked feed)

An old sheep farmer neighbour tells me its always been about but 
is prevalent now because of dog nuts.  the manufactured dog feed 
that farmers buy because it is easier to do so than skin a sheep.  
Previously weak sheep would have had their throats cut and been 
fed to the sheep dogs, but now the weak sheep are allowed to 
survive and eventually the OJD spreads through a mob or infection 
escalates.

For the record, I refused to partake in the Dept of Ag OJD program 
because farmers were being wrongly accused of having the 
disease.  Three examples from within 50 miles of me [close 
neighbours]:
1. Dept of ag returned a positive test based on the liver of a sheep 
when the only organ tested was the kidney of the slaughtered 
sheep (the grazier still had the liver in a jar at home!
2. D of A said that 2 of the three sheep tested had OJD - only two 
sheep were tested though
3. at a sheep stud down river from us the tests were done and 
disputed by a grazier who then asked they be done again and they 
came back with different results.  Department of Ag accused him of 
"swapping ear tags" on the sheep!

In every case they bulldoze their way forward while the real people 
in need cannot get help and those without the disease are treated 
like lepers due to Department bungles.

Sorry, I see something on OJD and feel I need to tell the world the 
truth...

Cheers
Vince


Vince Heffernan 

Halo Communications Pty Ltd

PO Box 149
Fyshwick ACT 2609

mobile 0418 628 241

---
Thanks for the clarity Vince.
It bring us back to the concepts of Miasms and just what is the nature of Dis-ease. 

Love in the time of Commodities (sic).

L*L
Markess