Re: Incorporating Manures During the Growing Season

2002-07-06 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD

Hi Allan  Chicken litter is strong on nitrogen  so it will make any crop you
plant grow rapidlyand hence prone to insect attack . Before spading in
spread some humic powder over chicken manure and also spray with some
molasses. This will soak up some of the excess nitrogen and hold it for next
year. Humic powder is a good alternative if you are low on compost. if you
are able to mix it with the chicken litter  it will allow you to spread the
litter further.
Cheers Tony Robinson
New Zealand
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From: A Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: Incorporating Manures During the Growing Season


 I probably need someone to slap me silly on this one, but maybe not.

 I'm managing a 163 share CSA this season and, for a variety of
 reasons, have been operating with a compost deficit all season. Now
 we're coming to plantingtime for the fall crops and I'm wondering
 about incorporating all that beautiful chicken litter that's accrued
 in the coop since this spring in beds before planting.

 As you know, my motto has always been 'compost, compost, and more
 compost,' but this year it's gone faster than I can make it plus a
 friend here in VA is growing circles around me thanks (in part, I'm
 sure) o the poop he incorporated last fall

 What say? I'm talking maybe two pickup loads into two 400 sq ft
 raised beds, spraying with BC and Field Spray, spading in, and
 letting it sit for, say 3 weeks before planting brassica's into it.

 It's the devil talking, I'm sure, but I can find the time to
 incorporate the litter but am not likely to find the time to make an
 appropriate compost stack out of it until the fall.

 Advice, please.

 Thanks

 -Allan






Re: Drip Tape

2002-07-06 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD



 Is anyone using t-tape to get BC out in the root zone on a regular basis?

 Hi Allan  Yes i have being putting all the preps through both trickle and
over head irrigation. All my liqiud fertiliser brews have BC in them and are
fed to crops on a weekly basis . It is a quick and efficient way of getting
them out on to paddocks when you are busy.
I see it as no different then using compost as the medium for getting the
preps out..
particularly when you are bring new ground in to the bd fold.
Cheers Tony Robinson
New Zealand




Re: St John's Tide and bd remedies

2002-07-06 Thread Peter Cotterill



Dear Robin,
Excellent web page. May I suggest you look at 
the paragraph on 'Lunar Movements and Tides'. Last 
sentence.As the earth rotates, the bulge follows the side facing the 
Moon so there is a high tide about every 6 hours. Here we only get a high 
tide every 12 hours.

My original question on root, leaf, flower or fruit 
years was not answered fully. 

 Could some one expand on this intensify 
the 501 and what determines a root,leaf, flower or fruit year? It's new to 
me.

Couldthe influence of Jupiter and the 
background constellationdetermine the influence year?

Jupiter takes 11.86 years to circle the Sun. So 
Jupiter as seen fromEarth stays in the same constellation for about 1 
year. Jupiter moves into Cancer 20th ofJuly this month. So if this 
is correct we are now moving towards a leaf year. could someone confirm 
this?
Peter.
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  From: 
  Robin 
  Duchesneau 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: St John's Tide and bd 
  remedies
  
  Hi,
  
  My boring answer to Peter, and/or all new comers to the 
  celestial component of BD gardening, is to read the excellent web page of the 
  Oregon Biodynamic Group. There you willfind all sorts of 
  stuffnamelyclasses.Fortunately there is a class on 
  COSMIC INFLUENCES. For those who know about that stuff, but have 
  never seen the page, will be delighted to see some original graphs of Maria 
  Thuns experiments.Real neat!
  
  http://www.oregonbd.org/Class/Mod3.htm
  
  Rbn
  


Control of pharming

2002-07-06 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith


Today's 'New Scientist' (as I've said before, not noticeably anti-GMO) is 
very concerned about both the concept and the control of genetically 
modifying plants to produce therapeutic drugs.  They ask, why use food 
plants? (Answer - much more is known about growing them).  They point out 
that, whereas a distaste for plants genetically modified for flavour, 
shelf-life or herbicide resistance could be dismissed as cranky, the fear 
that a powerful drug might escape into a similar crop grown for food is a 
very real one.  The USDA is heavily criticised for its very feeble program 
of regulating GMOs:  for example, separation distances have been set quite 
arbitrarily and the rules for keeping harvested crops segregated are vague 
and possibly unenforceable.  The article also points to loopholes - for 
example, maize engineered to produce the protein Avidin (which is known to 
be harmful to insects) doesn't come under control because the product isn't 
a drug and the crop isn't being grown to kill insects.  I guess that you 
guys in the USA know more about this - any comments?
I note that, once the regulations are finally published, the public will 
have 120 days to respond.  I hope that you've all got your pens sharpened 
ready?
As US food crops are an international rather than a domestic issue, I'd like 
to have my say - can anyone give me the relevant USDA address?  James White 
is said to be the USDA's branch chief for biotech evaluations.
  Tony N-S.



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Changing the subject (was Should Australia go native)

2002-07-06 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith


Sorry to appear as a whining old fogey, but could we please remember to 
change the subject field when the topic changes?  The latest post has 
nothing at all to do with the original topic and it's very confusing if one 
is trying to follow that original argument!   Tony N-S.



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Re: Drip Tape

2002-07-06 Thread aballiett

Tony - What tape/hose are you using for drip and what sort of 
injector/siphon? What do you filter/screen with? -Allan




Re: Changing the subject (was Should Australia go native ) reply

2002-07-06 Thread Kent J Carson

sorry tony about the confusion, i was relating to the last statement
,,anyone out there making preps?  i personally have never been to austrailia
, or even out of the country, but  we do grow medicinal herbs from there.
what is a nasty invasive plant to one ; is a food, medicine or thing of
beauty to another . we are interested in growing as much of our own food,
and medicines as possibe , much as all of our ancestors did. these days
there are a lot more choices. .. i think it is a good thing, for more people
to get more involved all over the world in producing their own food. so we
won't be so dependent
on imports or mass marketing. have you heard of the white list ?   these
days of global mixing, i don't think there is anymore, anywhere- totally
native.. but it sure is a good starting point to go out in our neighborhoods
and find out what is and is not native .  see   - j. l. huhson rare seeds---
( i don't know the web site) about the white list-  ... hope this doesn't
confuse things even more !love sharon- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Changing the subject (was Should Australia go native)



 Sorry to appear as a whining old fogey, but could we please remember to
 change the subject field when the topic changes?  The latest post has
 nothing at all to do with the original topic and it's very confusing if
one
 is trying to follow that original argument!   Tony N-S.



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Re: Drip Tape

2002-07-06 Thread SBruno75


In a message dated 7/4/02 9:38:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 JPI's instructions for BC useage clearly allows for stringent 
straining of the stirred BC before application. I'm wondering if 
anyone on BD Now! is putting BC out this way (or compost teas).
   I have been using bc as an inoculant for compost tea.  It really gets the 
microbes ands fungus going.
Doing this, of course, would violate the 'thou shalt not dilute 
stirred preps' rule.

That is a dogmatic an wrong rule.  I feel that the stirred remedies have a 
far greater instinct to correct a disturbed environment {ie: a river or 
irrigation system} than for the preps to get ruined by it.  I have been 
working on restoring the bay system by applying the bd remedies to 
it...sstorch