Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
If we accept biodynamics, do we have to accept Steiner's religious outlook? I'd like some clarifying comment on this. cheers, Matt You don't need to follow anyone's religious outlook but your own. It is not our experiences that we have problems with but rather the interpretations of them. Personally, in my meditative mind, spiritual beings are a part of God as are insects or a blade of grass and it is precisely in being aware of all of Gods manifestations that eventually get us there (which is here and everywhere).It is true that the pursuit of visions of beings can be a distraction, but it need not be. I am aware of some meditative teachings that say to not pay attention to beings, but by no means all med teachings. (one very definite teaching that comes to mind is Don Juan) If you want some clarification on this, try and think of a different form for these beings such as color, love,energy, light, health, just a sense or what ever works for you. It's just easier to find our way when we try to find what's behind the words rather than what the words mean. In Love and Light, Mr. Chris
Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Hi Peter, Glen, Hugh--How does one prepare 501 or any other prep for human intake? What is a dose? Have any of you any sort of chart on which prep affects what ailment? I have felt inclined to try using 501 on myself all year, but wasn't sure exactly what to do. Thanks, Pam - Original Message - From: Peter Michael Bacchus [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had an interesting experience with 501 in relationship to an abscess in the nerve canal of my lower jaw. The abscess was on the move towards the jaw hinge and it was time to do something decisive. After a discussion with Glen I started taking some 501. After about four doses at two hourly intervals the abscess returned to the tooth where it started, then climbed up past the tooth and sat just under the skin beside the tooth. -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Get 4 DVDs for $.49 cents! plus shipping processing. Click to join. http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-3566-59
RE: Spray Nozzles and Sprayers was Re: Sequential spraying for rain equisetums role
Steve and, Thanks to your recommendation some time back on the list, I got my new Birchmeier senior last week. A fine piece of equipment...no more struggling with my old solo diaphragm...runs like a watch and is a smooth as chocolate...Highly recommended (if you have the funds). Sharon, I just ran a google search with birchmeier and a large city close to me and found a distributor there... Ed As far as backpack sprayers go I still love the Birchmier, a Swiss model probably originating out of the biodynamic impulse...SStorch
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Do you ever get to sleep in the summer or does someone else do that for you? Thanks for the ever rare expression of empathy, Peter. Hosting the list, hosting Joel Salatin on Sept 4, hosting the BD Conference on October 4-6. Yes, it is all consuming. (I'm sure it shows up in my spelling.) Proxy sleeper? Yes, I could use one. Thanks for the consideration and the very optimistic outlook on the Kolisko book! ;-) -Allan
RE: Seawater ?
Steve, Plan on testing it on a small plot in my pasture...I guess if the grass doesn't turn brown it works... Barry, Thanks for the links..some good info there...we'll try some things as soon as we get to the coast for water. Regarding paramagnetic rock dust...where does one find it in the U.S. I looked into Azomite, but Utah is a long way from Florida. Full semi loads were not unreasonably priced per ton, but 24 tons would still be a large investment. (anybody near Florida want to split a load??) Looked in to a more local source of granite sand from close by in Georgia, but I wonder now, is any granite dust better than no granite dust. If I did get a sample from my local source how could I tell or test for quality. I understand that off-farm inputs must be scrutinized properly, but I've read some Albrecht and have a clearer understanding of how much help my washed out subtropical sands needI've got the resources now to do something...just need to figure out what! (yes I know, been putting the new 25 gal crock to good use, the cows are making contributions daily, and the summer legume cover is doing well) Ed
Re: Seawater ?
Hi Barry and Nancy, I live close to the ocean near Tauranga in the North Island of New Zealand. Much of the land around us is grazed by dairy cows. We have an African grass invaiding called Kykuyu. The frosts used to keep it in check but our winters are getting warmer. I went down to the sea side with two twenty litre containers, filled them with seawater and sprayed neat onto the grass to drip off. That is good and heavy, I expected to see some burn off, but no, in one place it almost trebled growth and elsewhere only doubled it. It is interesting to hear others experiences. I wouldn't imagine this would be good practice in Australia. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Barbara Hedley signs herself 'Bioethical Agriculture Consultant' - I like that, is it what I do, I wonder? No, I am a bridge-building worker bee - bridging the chasm between the information 'haves' and 'have nots'. Forgive me, I should have introduced myself. I joined this list today and in my next message I shall do an intro. For now, let it be known that I am a colleague (and friend) of Barbara Hedley and Hamish Mackay, a member of the Biodynamic Farming and Gardening Association in Australia, I know a very little about biodynamics and I have a few bright ideas. To get to the point - chamomile. Five years ago I suddenly began to be assailed by violent debilitating headaches which put me in bed, totally energyless, for three days. Nothing chemical would shift them, I had to wait until they passed off naturally. I have suffered from headaches for most of my life but nothing like these. They all began on the left side of the head, moving subsequently to cover both temples, then down the right side before finally disappearing. The headaches I was used to were almost without exception confined to one side or the other. Those on the left side were stomach-related and I could cure them with paracetamol. Those on the right were caused by tension or stiff neck - a soluble codeine/aspirin mix such as Solcode (now extinct) or Aspalgin did the job there. Sometimes I used both in combination. The naturopath I visited (and her successor when she moved away) uses a diagnostic and treatment system called Vegatesting. My interpretation of how it works and what it does is that it is a form of radionics. At first I thought it was mumbo jumbo - sitting for an hour and a half in a circuit with a human who asked questions of the cosmos (apparently) and two machines, one of which held vials of fluid and the other beeped, whirred or burped according to whatever. After an hour I was told I had a list of ailments including heavy metal toxicity, depressed immune system, the non-HIV form of hepatitis - and Ross River Virus. That's the cause of the headaches, I was advised, would I like to know how long it had been in my system? Yes, I would. What followed was illuminating. The naturopath touched my left thumb with her stylus (in my right hand I held a cylindrical contact) and asked 'How long has this person had this disease - one year? Five years? More than five years?' Each time the noise machine whistled, indicating a 'Yes' answer. She worked her way up to 15-20 years before it became uncertain, dropping down the scale. I cannot get it closer than that, she said apologetically. I stared at her, thinking. It was late February 1997 and my headaches had begun five weeks before. (You should note that I knew nothing of BD or radionics then; did not even come across the terminology until early 2001.) I counted back 20 years - 1977 - went forward five, one by one. What carries Ross River Virus? I asked. A certain sort of mosquito found in sub-tropical conditions. I nodded. In the midsummer of 1979 I was living in Canberra with my first wife, I said. I went on a driving holiday around part of NSW on my own, staying at caravan parks. At least that was my intention. The first night I stayed at Wellington, a small town not far to the north of the national capital by Australian standards. The second I reached Parkes, not much further north because I had dawdled on the way. It was incredibly hot and dry and the whole region was suffering from drought, very little water in reservoirs, dead sheep and cattle about, awful. I woke up on the third morning with a dreadful headache like I had never had before. I paused, remembering. How strange it was. One of these headaches, I continued slowly. The first. Good heavens, I'd forgotten all about it. The lady smiled at my confusion, asked me whether I had been in similar conditions recently. Yes, I had; Robin (my wife) and I had returned five weeks before from two weeks in Brisbane in sub-tropical Queensland. She nodded. You were bitten again, quite likely. That would do it. RRVcan lie dormant for years and be re-triggered by another attack. Now I'll work out the remedy. Which she did. It contained chamomile. As the weeks and months passed, the headaches diminished. I found that chamomile as a tea was as effective (if not moreso) than paracetamol in getting rid of the 'ordinary' left side of the head aches. I also learned my lesson as far as radionics is concerned. Came the day I decided it was all hoo-ha and gobbledy-gook and went off the herbs and homeopathic solutions. At that time I hadn't had a 'bad' headache for over two months; three days later I was in bed in agony! Over four years they got my headaches down to two hours every few months. That is where we are at today. I've learned a lot. I know when I'm beginning one and what to do to combat it. I don't lose my energy any more. Two days ago I went to see Lisa (the
FIRE-ANT ALARM
From the 2002 Southern edition of the Old Farmers' Almanac: FIRE-ANT ALARM After years of trying to get rid of those nasty, sometimes-fatal fire ants, scientists think they have a solution imported from Argentina. The pinhead-size phorid fly, also known as the decapitating fly, injects an egg into the ant and takes off. The egg hatches into a maggot, which slithers into the ant's head and feeds on juices there. The rest--well, you can imagine. These flies are slowly infiltrating fire-ant strongolds in seven southern states without any apparent danger to the rest of the ecosystem.
Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Virginia, That's the way I do it. I treat with the potency simulator radionically. Sometimes, if it is more convenient, I'll make up a potency and take it. Best, Hugh Hugh, Rather than take a BD prep as a homeopathic remedy, can one radionically treat oneself with it, dowsing for which prep and for how long? Virginia - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Re: BD Prep 503 for humans Right, Allan, Silica remedies can often seem as radical in the human body as they do in the field. They can be moderated by treating in tandem with the lime remedies, and then it doesn't seem so radical. In fact, using them along with horn clay is probably the most advisable method. Watch out about using silica remedies by themselves. Best, Hugh I've been experimenting with treating myself with preps for some time. I have a lot of questions so I won't run that by you yet, but I've found the silica remedies such as horn quartz to be astonishing. It's been like a roller coaster with all the thrills, but with some obvious fruits too. I'm convinced Steiner's agricultural remedies are amongst the best medical remedies invented. Please experiment more, and let us know the results. Hugh - I don't know about 501, but I do know that Joe Lillard has warned that homeopathic silica is not for everyone and it can bring up a lot of things for the body that people (or their livers) may not be able to deal with. It can be currative, of course. Very curative. My advice for experimenters, though, would be to not do it unless you are able to take a lot of time off from work, should you need to. -allan Visit our website at: www.unionag.org Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
If we accept biodynamics, do we have to accept Steiner's religious outlook? Today almost all 'religious' thought is presented in the context of the Cartesian split, i.e. those who hold religious beliefs do so while at the same time accepting, or not critically questioning, science's claim that 'all causes in nature are physical causes'. People who uncritically accept sciences causal premise, and try to simply 'add on' a religious belief system of any kind, are by definition 'dualists' in the Cartesian sense. I've never heard of anyone describing their own personal experience of Steiner's spirit-world in exactly Steiner's Euro-centric terms Steiner was an anti-dualist in the strongest possible sense, so it is very misleading to think of his anthroposophy as a religion. He often deals with religious subject matter, but not in a 'religious' manner. He does not ask for or expect 'belief' in what he says, or claim to be in any sense infallible. He simply presents the things that he had experienced as a challenge to our understanding, to accept or reject as we see fit. The British philologist Owen Barfield, when asked why he placed so much emphasis on Steiner's work, once stated succinctly If one wanders in a barren desert does one complain that water only comes from one spring. The desert that he refers to, is that created over the past several centuries by the Cartesian contradiction. Steiner is unique in modern thought in that he is the only genuine non-dualist (monist) thinker in modern times, and this includes most proponents of a purely scientific (non-religious) outlook. If anyone wishes to explore this dimension of Steiner's uniqueness, may I suggest my own recently published work on the subject, 'Evolution and the New Gnosis' (ISBN: 0-595-22445-8). This work does not touch on biodynamics per se, but the subject matter that it does explore is, I suspect, vital to a true understanding of the future role of biodynamics. That biodynamics, Waldorf education and the very many other practical aspects of Steiner's thought (including the Inversion mixer, System Schatz) work so well, is not an accident. It is because Steiner was able to consciously draw on the Cosmic wisdom in a way hitherto not possible. He was a trailblazer on what for mankind as a whole may prove in time to be the most important trail of all. My wife Eve, who is a member of this list, has brought this question to my attention, so I send this posting it in her name. Don Cruse
Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
Dear Matthew: I like Don's reply, but wish to cArify something he didn't address. --- Matthew Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When this spirit-world is referred to, it seems to me to be usually in reference to what Steiner has said, not what the speaker has personally experienced. Steiner's erudition and exprience is so vast, it is frequently an intimidating influence, rather than a liberating one - esp. as it comes across in print. If one works against this it is a great fulcrum for appreciating his influence - which demands participation in the process. Enlightenment is described in common terms across all religious traditions. So are the demons wrestled with by the enlightened on their way to enlightenment, although the demons are described in terms of the meditator's religious background. But cosmic beings? Did Steiner pay too much heed to the shadows of his own mind? If we accept biodynamics, do we have to accept Steiner's religious outlook? As Don said, accepting the datum of one's experience does not have to be a religious trip, even if those percepts are non-physical, or are the same beings also described by religion tradition. Steiner differs from the general Eastern attitude, which is, in broad terms, to refuse the reality of phenomena and goe straight for the All. Steiner fully accepts the evidence of the senses, but requires training of the senses and discipline in discrimination and judgement, and cultivation of moral sensibility. Under such scrutiny, some beings turn out to be personal fantasy or hallucinations of the bodily organs. Some remain as allies, some as testers, some merely other. It's a abig world, and just as in daily life, one needs to be able to separate out the helpful from the distracting influences. And you said: Enlightenment is described in common terms across all religious traditions I don't know about that From what I've read and studied, there seems to be absolutely no agreement whatsoever about the meaning of the word, not to mention whatever it is that it refers to. Unless it is used with such unspecific and vague suggestivity as to be semantically useless: Stop the mind and you will become enlightened: that's crap. Spiritual growth in the West is allied with the cultivation of individuality and creativity, not the extinguishing of a sense of Self. According to this format, if the Self becomes freer from false associations and identifications, it is then more able to relate in a more free and unconditioned and appropriate manner to its relations in the world as in comes in touch with its total uniqueness. These relations include a myriad of other beings. Just some ideas... Stephen = Just cooperate and everything will be OK: The Authorities Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.Marshall McLuhan In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com
Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
Stephen - write more often and send more post-scripts like these!! Love that theory and practice one, I have to admit. Love that 'small secret' one, too. That and the 'big lie.' Take Care, friend, -Allan = Just cooperate and everything will be OK: The Authorities Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.Marshall McLuhan In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com
Re: Spray Nozzles and Sprayers / Birchmeier
Sharon, If you are in the East (U.S. that is) check these guys out (it's where I got mine) http://www.forshawonline.com/catalog/products.asp?SubCatID=45 or plug in BIRCHMEIER SPRAYER into google and wade through all the pest control companies that sell 'em. Ed i tried the google search for the birchmeirer sprayer , but all i found was a company in france selling livestock drugs . does anyone have a U.S. site? :)sharon - Original Message - From: Merla Barberie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Re: Spray Nozzles and Sprayers Hi Lloyd, Our experiences with the solo system and others of its ilk have been they same. They won't handle BD preps without jamming up and scoring your plastic pump barrels. What we're gone to is a home-built system with flo jet pump and one liter pressure tank to smooth the flow with a fine screen flo jet filter on the intake and a commercial hand nozzle, trigger type with interchangeable fairly large diameter tips of much larger size than the intake size screen. It's set up to use open barrels of BD preps. It does fine. Gives us about a 30 ft. jet spray reach on the roadside and will reach anywhere in the orchard that we need to because it can be extended with a garden hose. Since it's a diaphragm pump, it's not subject to the scoring that the piston pumps are and it runs off a 12 volt electrical system, though I found that it takes a high amperage DC plug (trolling motor). We've destroyed quite a few backpack pumps with BD preps. What you said is right on. Herb (of HerbnMerla) Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett I don't know about the rest of you, but I could sure use mentoring in picking a sprayer and in picking sprayer tips. I have to admit, I was pretty dumbed up as I looked at the wall of sprayer tips etc at TRACTOR SUPPLY the other day. I think I've outgrown my SOLO. I want something that will let me put more spray out faster. My solo has to be cleaned about every 5 minutes. A reflection of a larger problem, Im sure, but just the same, it gets very grating Hi Allan and frustrated sprayers Dont know if this will help but here goes During the eighties and early nineties we did a lot of field spraying, including quite a few thousand acres of contracting, by ground rig boom spray at very low application rates, super fine nozzles = 25 litres/ha (about 2.5 gallon/acre). The system needs to be pretty good to operate at this level but results were fantastic and productivity (work rate per hour doubles) There is a basic rule for the trouble free operation of any spraying gear that says never put anything in the tank that wont go easily through the nozzle this manifests much more so with fine jets and low rates however it seems that the manufacturers of spraying equipment can't be bothered with this because they continue to put a coarse strainer several times larger than jet size on the tank inlet then put fine strainers on the jets. This almost guarantees blockages with any of the things that readers on this list will be using. (teas, molasses, fish, kelp, BDpreps) all have fibrous stuff that will block small diameter jet strainers real quick Reverse the order of filtration - put a fine mesh filter, smaller than your jet size on the tank inlet - this is the largest capacity and easiest to clean one in the system - put a medium filter in the line after the pump - then put the coarsest screen, almost the same size as the jets, on the nozzle - in many cases, if the other two are in place and working properly, and your application rate is over 100 l/ha you can run succesfully with no nozzle filter at all - life will go much easier with ANY spraying gear if you stick to this basic trick - its just common sense really but in most cases you are going to need to home make a better tank inlet filter than the manufacturer supplies - a piece of fine woven cloth will often do just nice - this will work with any sprayer from your 2 gallon pump unit on up. Hope this helps some as sprayer blockages are just about the ultimate frustration! Cheers all Lloyd Charles
Re: Spray Nozzles and Sprayers help
In a message dated 8/1/02 4:09:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: birchmeirer sprayer it's Birchmier
Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
Dear Allan, Steph, etc., Eve Cruse's husband makes Inversion Machines for many purposes. And in Canada also! Michael\ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality In a message dated 8/1/02 12:57:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That biodynamics, Waldorf education and the very many other practical aspects of Steiner's thought (including the Inversion mixer, System Schatz) work so well, is not an accident. Have been intrested in these inversion mixers for some time. Do they work for biodynamics? In what way? I build hydraulic biodynamic stirring machines; on the seventh prototype, I believe I hit the winning design. Has anyone doing bd purchased this device? SStorch
Re: Hugh Courtney on Spirituality
In a message dated 8/1/02 8:05:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eve Cruse's husband makes Inversion Machines for many purposes. And in Canada also! Michael\ well what do they do with them, mix paint???SStorch
Re: Spray Nozzles and Sprayers help
In a message dated 8/1/02 8:00:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it's Birchmier I mean birchmeier
Re: struggling with my old solo diaphragm
perhaps the diaphragm has a crack in it? needs only to be tiny and the air will leak out and the pump not work. Christiane [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/08/2002 19:41:41 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Christiane Jaeger/NRE) Subject: struggling with my old solo diaphragm I recently purchased a new 4-gal SOLO diaphragm sprayer. It worked great for the first hour or so and I was very glad that I purchased it. Now it's got this weird thing going on. You pump it a few times and it feels 'pumped' but will not spray. I guess this means that the outlet is clogged. It's a nice, clean, pump that's had nothing that wouldn't pass through panty hose mesh poured into it. What a hassle to think of completely disassembling it to find that blockage. Or is it not a blockage and just a quirk? Yesterday I picked up a new 3-gal Shindaiwa backpack sprayer. What a dream it appears to be!! -Allan
inversion machines
Dear Steph, We had a couple here when somebody was trying to make Weleda products. Mixing the ingredients to make medicines. Ask Weleda in the US, they can tell you much more. Also, Eve's husband, Don, if he is still doing this work. Def. distributes, if not making them from scratch sometimes for specific clients. Certainly mixing paints could be one use. Michael - Original Message -Eve Cruse's husband makes Inversion Machines for many purposes. And in Canada also! Michael\
Re: FIRE-ANT ALARM
What does teres the rub mean? Patti. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/1/02 11:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: without any apparent danger to the rest of the ecosystem. teres the rub...SStorch
