RE: Weeds
I am compiling some details at the moment and shall communicate them through next week but a lot of what |I shall say is based on observation over many years I have 2 managed wild areas in Hertfordshire, some land in Northern France, I have spent time in a rainforest in Sumatra, visited Makaibari in India and Botobolar in Mudgee Australia but I speak chiefly about the UK. I remember Mr Valquist telling me in Australia that he found that vines grown in bare areas without wild plants didn't yield greater numbers of grapes and that tastier grapes came from the areas he left to grow side by side with wild plants,I re-call at Makaibari there are other plants around the tea plants and a lot of composting and mulching going on,plants that grow naturally in specific areas are encouraged, a far cry from conventional tea planting everywhere else in India and for that matter vines in Australia I also spent some time in Makaibari's jungle area and noted the wild plants that grew side by side there. Rex -Original Message- From: Rex Tyler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 August 2002 07:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Weeds good to hear from you I will go home and write out some books and things that will help you I am just verey sad we like so far apart you clearly think very much on my wavelength just read another posting about your book I shall keep glued to this newsgroup now for more posting from your Roger Rex Tyler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Pye Sent: 25 August 2002 14:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weeds Rex Tyler wrote: great to hear that, at last someone knows what he's talking about I have studied so called wild plants for years and eaten many of them as food at last some light! Rex, has your study revealed to you any characteristics of plants, wild or otherwise, which could be of use in demonstrating that the usefulness of them goes beyond the accepted or expected? For example, serrated tussock, a fibrous grass which originated in South America, is classified as a noxious weed in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and the United States. The reason for the classification is that stock animals will only eat it as a last resort (ie, when there is nothing else edible at all) and then because of its composition (about 92% fibre + 4% protein + 4% moisture) they cannot draw enough sustenance from it to maintain life no matter how much they consume. In some animals, the fibre blocks the gut preventing anything else from going through. But that's the 'downside' - and in this case, the downside is a killer; ST is the Number One noxious weed in Oz, kill on sight etc. (Makes little difference, the chemicals used, which include Roundup, only kill the current plant, have no effect on the seed bed, and each mature plant can dump 100,000 seeds a season which may remain dormant for up to 40+ years. BD ST peppers have been shown to do a better job.) The 'upside' is that ST is a fantastic erosion-stopper - a ground cover which will grow in the poorest soils, protect and hold them together. It also makes great mulch. Incidentally, it's inhibited by common gorse (ulex europa), another noxious weed; the two will not grow together. I have an embryo plants resource reference (currently in Excel) which I am putting together using information gleaned from all over the place.To name a few - the Ohio Plant Dictionary, http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/, http://www.geocities.com/nutriflip/Naturopathy/, books about herbs weeds, Culpeper's original writings and so on. There are currently 500 plants in there. Some of the info's pretty sketchy. This is the type of info I'm aiming for : Common Name - Burdock; Botanical Name - Arctium Lappa; Other Names; Planet - Venus; Treatment For or Uses - Acne,Gout,Arthritis,Eczema,Blood Purifier,Itch,Uric Acid,Builds Liver Health,skin diseases, flu, tonsilitis; Description - A rapid blood purifier, a diuretic, and good for ulcers. Aids the pituitary gland, keeps waste moving out of a weak body, and expels kidney and bladder stones. Reduces calcium deposits in the joints. Banana Peel - Fixes phosphorus, potash. Bury around rose bushes for stunning blooms.. Canada Thistle - growth inhibited by alfalfa, red clover. Assist inhibition by clipping thistle growth thrice per growing season. Sunflower - this plant has been sown thickly in radiation-affected areas around Chernobyl. Believed to absorb radiation components such as strontium and break down into harmless substances. Tall fescue - grass native to Southern Canada. Absorbs petro-chemical wastes and converts them as above. I welcome any info on plants regardless of whether they are classified as 'weeds' or not. roger
FW: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says BritishGuru
Title: FW: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says British Guru Subject: [globalnews] Goldsmith: Johannesberg a Confidence Game InterPress Service News Agency DEVELOPMENT: Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says British Guru Sanjay Suri India and China are committing one of the greatest crimes in history in agreeing to allow Western agriculture produce into their markets, says Edward Goldsmith, founder of The Ecologist magazine and a celebrated pioneer of Britain's environment movement since the 'sixties. Opening up of these markets to highly subsidised food from the West will make up to two billion people destitute around the world, Goldsmith told IPS in an interview on the eve of the World Summit on Sustainable Development that began in Johannesburg Monday. LONDON, Aug 26 (IPS) - India and China are committing one of the greatest crimes in history in agreeing to allow Western agriculture produce into their markets, says Edward Goldsmith, founder of The Ecologist magazine and a celebrated pioneer of Britain's environment movement since the 'sixties. Opening up of these markets to highly subsidised food from the West will make up to two billion people destitute around the world, Goldsmith told IPS in an interview on the eve of the World Summit on Sustainable Development that began in Johannesburg Monday. The push to these policies is coming from giant multinational companies with the backing of the U.S. government, Goldsmith said. The WTO (World Trade Organisation) agriculture agreement specifies that the third world open up its borders to food from the EU and the U.S., Goldsmith said. But opening up markets to subsidised food from the rich countries will throw small farmers out of business. India alone has some 500 million small farmers, China some 900 million. Most of them will inevitably seek refuge in the slums where there is no land to plough, no jobs and little or no government aid. British officials have spoken of pushing 'reforms' in the estimated 350 billion dollars of subsidies paid annually to farmers in developed countries. But Britain is looking to change subsidies, not to end them, Goldsmith said. Like the other countries of the EU, it is looking at the U.S. system of subsidies, where small farmers are made to sell to big grain merchants like the Cargill Corporation at a price that is below the cost of production. This will enable the grain merchants to ruin the agriculture of third world countries. In Britain the income of farmers has fallen 90 per cent in the last 10 years or so, he said. The government wants to get rid of the small farmers, for big corporations to take over, he said. In California 70 per cent of the food produced comes from farms with no farmers - farms which belong to big corporations. In Britain the Blair government pleads for importing all food, arguing that agriculture in the country is not economic. This is suicide, says Goldsmith. With climate change the U.S. corn belt is drying up, so is the Australian wheat belt. We now have less than 15 million acres of arable and 15 million acres of grass land in Britain to feed nearly 60 million people. The last land utilisation survey done in 1977 came to the conclusion that in 2157 no agricultural land will be left. But since then the loss of farming land has accelerated. Blair wants new airports, a network of super highways, more nuclear plants, more incinerators, four million new houses. That will eat up much of what is left. Unless we rethink these policies totally, the discussions in Johannesburg make no sense at all. The decisions are being made by multinationals, Goldsmith says. So long as this remains the case we cannot solve any of our real problems. What is more, they will unquestionably take over whatever institution we set up to control them. This must make us seriously consider whether humanity can survive global economy, which by its very nature must be controlled by multinationals. A sine qua non of survival is a return to much smaller companies catering for a local market. Goldsmith does not believe that the developed countries will seriously set out to control consumption. In the U.S., consumption accounts for about 75 per cent of Gross National Product. One of the devices resorted to create the economic boom was to persuade people who saved about 9 per cent of their income to spend it all on consumer goods. This has made the U.S. totally dependent on foreign investments, including capital flight from third world countries rendered bankrupt by the World Bank, IMF and WTO policies. This capital flight adds up to more than five times the money third world countries get for development aid. If American consumers and the same is largely true of British consumers, save more, the economy will in the immediate term correspondingly suffer - GDP will fall. Are governments willing to accept this? The U.S. economy depends on capital flows, and the U.S. needs inward investment of
FW: [globalnews] Greens Defeat GM Crops in Britain
Title: FW: [globalnews] Greens Defeat GM Crops in Britain Food and science The grim reaper Aug 22nd 2002 >From The Economist print edition Still Pictures The green lobby has won the GM debate, and the GM crop business is leaving Britain. Which, depending on your point of view, may be a good or a bad thing IT WAS during his trip to India last year that Tony Blair was converted to genetic modification, according to Ian Gibson, chairman of the House of Commons select committee on science and technology. The Indians were saying how delighted they were that Britain was having trouble with GM, because then they could take over and become masters of the science. But Mr Blair's enthusiasm hasn't, so far, had much effect on attitudes in Britain towards GM. Last week there was another GM scare, when it turned out that Aventis, a Franco-German biotech company, had mixed in with a trial of an approved seed a small amount of a variety not approved for use in Britain. Never mind that this variety had been approved all over the rest of the developed world; the media went into its usual spin, talking of Frankenstein foods and Superweeds. The public mostly shares its concerns. According to MORI, a pollster, while 18% of Britons think the benefits of GM outweigh the risks, 39% think the risks outweigh the benefits, and the rest don't know. That is why the government is launching a public debate next month, with a one-day summit, a public information film and a lot of public meetings. Three years' worth of government-sponsored field trials of GM crops are to be evaluated next year, and the technology's supporters think that, although its opponents have made all the running so far, opinion can be turned around if the public is given enough decent information. There are any number of theories as to why Britain, along with much of Western Europe, is so hostile to GM when America and most of the developing world are embracing the technology enthusiastically. Maybe it's because Britain is rich and small, and so its people are more concerned about their environment than are people in larger or poorer countries. Maybe it's because BSE has made the public deeply suspicious both of unfamiliar agricultural practices and of reassuring scientific pronouncements. Maybe it's because GM has become a totem for the anti-globalisation movement, which is stronger in Europe than in America. Maybe it's because organic farmers, an increasingly vociferous lobby which includes Prince Charles, have an interest in seeing off new technologies. Maybe it's because GM is a good excuse for keeping out foreign food. Maybe it's because Europe is right and America is wrong. Whatever the reason, the consequences of the disparity are showing up. Outside Europe, GM is powering ahead. In 1996, no genetically modified crops were commercially cultivated in America. This year, around 34% of all maize, 71% of cotton and 75% of soya grown in America is GM. Canada, Australia, Argentina and China, among others, are also enthusiastic GM growers, and Indonesia and India have decided to go along with it too. No health risks have been identified, and evidence of the economic and environmental benefits is mounting: according to a paper on GM in China published earlier this year in Science, for instance, GM cotton cost three-quarters as much to grow per kilo as the conventional crop, and required only one-sixth as much pesticide. In most of the European Union, there has been a moratorium on commercial cultivation since Monsanto, an American biotechnology company, tried to launch GM products in the late 1990s and crashed against a wall of hostile public opinion. Research continues, but the economic and scientific consequences that India hopes for and Mr Blair fears are already showing up in research institutes and companies. The number of new GM products being developed in Europe has collapsed. In Britain, the number of field trials is down to four in 2002, from a peak of 37 in 1995. This is particularly galling for British scientists, because Britain was second only to America in the development of plant biotechnology during the 1980s and early 1990s, and is losing its place to more enthusiastic countries such as China. According to Philip Stott, emeritus professor of biogeography at the University of London, these days there are somewhere between 100 and 130 transgenic scientists working in crop research institutes in Britain. The comparable figure for China is 1,988. The decline of plant science in Britain is evident in both private and public sectors. Research and development capacity is shrinking. The number of crop-protection research centres has fallen over the past few years from six to onethe Jealott's Hill, Berkshire, research facility of Syngenta, a Swiss-British agricultural biotechnology firm. According to the UK Crop Protection Association, the number of RD and technical jobs in the business fell from 2,400 to 1,638 between 1986 and 2000.
Re: Weeds
Rex, did you also check out the tea curing processes while at Makaibari? Jane From: Rex Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:11:00 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Weeds I also spent some time in Makaibari's jungle area and noted the wild plants that grew side by side there.
Re: FW: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says British Guru
the corporate rape of the earth continues, these peasant farmers are their last frontier. Does anyone not think that these are not the same folks promoting the war in the east??? It is all connected to money and the corporate domination of the food supply. For many of these people ingesting this chemically grown food will start a rash of degenerative dis-ease...sstorch
Re: Field Broadcaster
Title: Re: Field Broadcaster Gil, You must be back in the loop! Now to the situation in question. IMO and experience a field broadcaster's pattern takes considerable time to establish itself. I perceive a kite or a series of Kites to be a more substantial approach. Possibly design one that spins, using a wind turbine (?) to drive it, from the center of site. The vortex should give it some oomph! Roger is also bringing important information that is seeming being overlooked. (the one that made me ill) What is this, his dis-ease at the site. Sound like the dis-ease is being shared by the plantings. In Love and Light Markess From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:34:04 +0930 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Field Broadcaster Hi! Lloyd/ Roger, I have the Base 44 Rates for five different rabbit deterring broadcasts. I can make phials of pillules of any or all... They are: To make unattractive to rabbits. To prevent rabbits breading in... To prevent rabbits over wintering in To prevent rabbits crossing the boundary of . To keep free of rabbits. To make them I need the details of the piece of land, as that is part of making them and I understand they are not transferable, but only work for the stated land. Gil
Re: FW: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says British Guru
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 06:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the corporate rape of the earth continues, these peasant farmers are their last frontier. Does anyone not think that these are not the same folks promoting the war in the east??? It is all connected to money and the corporate domination of the food supply. For many of these people ingesting this chemically grown food will start a rash of degenerative dis-ease...sstorch Ahhh, but perhaps there is a plan at work here. That GM food is already causing infertility in animals. I'm sure it will cause infertility in people too. Just imagine, birth control on a global scale. Of course there will be other side effects, but what do the multi-national corporations care. They will be able to buy clean food. Bonnie
Re: Egg shaped
hi gil, thanks for sharing these hands on skills. i don't understand why you would say this should be off line when what we are talking about is prep storage and empowering a person to do it themselves rather than rely on an outside source. seems like it is very ,on topic, as many of the posts make no mention of biodynamics. not that i don't learn from them and mostly enjoy them. thanks again. :)sharon - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Egg shaped Hi! Sharon, This maybe should have been off line. There are many ways of making free form shapes from clay. (A distinct from thrown or slip cast.) The best known is coil. This is like the kids plasicine. The clay is rolled out into snakes and built up in spirals. The surface is smoothed off while still damp. Very complex shapes can be built this way. Bat and ball is another, where small balls of soft clay are placed in position and beaten into place and shape with a small wooden bat, made from a scrap of timber. The easiest is the plaster mould method. As you want an egg shape, find a balloon that when inflated is the right size and shape. Bury the balloon in the slightly damp sand, to the half way point on the long axis. Use some sort of form and cast a block of plaster of paris to cover the exposed part. One can then construct a form in the mould, using slabs, coils or balls of clay. When that section is formed, carefully remove and rotate about ninety degrees and continue. Then turn again and finish the full 360 degrees. One has to leave a hole to get your hand in. I assume you need an opening and a lid. The lid can also be made in the same mould. If one has a tame potter, use a clay like they do and get them to fire it for you. If not, hit Google and put pottery in the first line and primitive firing in the second. You can then fire your own. Gil kentjamescarson wrote: hi gil, I'm sure those things are to be of foremost consideration, but ,,, it seems worthy of a trial here with using the gourds as a vessel to make 504 and bc. .
Prep container
At 12:01 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, sharon wrote: . last time i tried 504 there wasn't much left in the ground. the worms must have et it. We make 504 in a piece of earthenware pipe. Likewise, we bury the other preps in an earthenware flower pot. Otherwise, it's difficult to find them after the soil critters munched on them. as to the b.c. it is quite expensive and hard to find a clean , small wooden keg,as recomended. We make a wooden box from scrap lumber, it's not even round. Seems to work ok. I have made a barrel in the past, rip a bevel on a bunch of wooden slats and band them together into a cylinder. Using regular (Doug fir) lumber, it's only good for about one season. So hasn't been worth the trouble. As for the shape question, I've not tried storing the preps in anything other than brown glass bottles, but it sounds like an intriguing idea. I don't know how decay-resistant gourds are, and I'm not sure about coating them with other substances, but sounds like Steve has had good experiences. David Robison
Re: Peter Proctor's e-mail address
Dear list, I am trying to respond to an e-mail I received from Peter Proctor, [EMAIL PROTECTED], however my mail administrator rejects this address as undeliverable. Does anyone on the list have another address I can contact him with. Please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Henry Karczynski Costa Rica Dear Henry, This is what I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have recently e-mailed to him at this address. Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: FW: [globalnews] Opening Markets Is Not Sustainable, Says British Guru
In a message dated 8/29/02 11:51:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahhh, but perhaps there is a plan at work here. That GM food is already causing infertility in animals. There is already mass infertility in many people. That is from chemically grown food. The gm food will start to do things like making holes in the intestinal tract + increased dummying down...sstorch
Rain
It finally started to rain last night. The last rain was a few hours and did not even cut the dust, that was a month ago. This will be the first real meaningful rain of the summer of 2002. I go a nice bc spray in late last night, good to get it washed in...sstorch
Re: Rain
It finally started to rain last night. The last rain was a few hours and did not even cut the dust, that was a month ago. This will be the first real meaningful rain of the summer of 2002. I go a nice bc spray in late last night, good to get it washed in...sstorch Steve - We got 3inches since 6am yesterday morning. It's still raining. It might be a v. good thing in the long run, but it's not good in the short run. I've got about 1000 ft of choice sunflowers lying on the ground and some wonderful incan corn from smuggled seed that toppled. (The curse of raised bed farming.) And then there's all those fuzzy little squash... But, yes, I'm thankful for what we got
Re: Rain
In a message dated 8/29/02 1:17:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The curse of raised bed farming.) spray some 500 and take a nap...sstorch
RE: Weeds
Dear Jane I didn't actually I was more interested in plants, in the growing part of the production it what he did for his workers and meeting almost everyone of them and he has in excessof 1000, seeing the compost and the preps and generally talking to people. Is there something wrong with them did you try silver tips? rex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jane Sherry Sent: 29 August 2002 13:22 To: BdNow Subject: Re: Weeds Rex, did you also check out the tea curing processes while at Makaibari? Jane From: Rex Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:11:00 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Weeds I also spent some time in Makaibari's jungle area and noted the wild plants that grew side by side there.
rain
Except for some rain on the July 1 and Aug. 1 long weekends, it hasn't rained at all the rest of the time here in North Vancouver, BC. More like the summers we used to have backthe 1960's and 70's and maybe some in the 80's. I should do some seq. spraying in leaf per. ?? for rain. M.
Rain/CEC
We also experienced our first rain yesterday and last night. Heralding in the Spring. The drought seems to have made it a mild winter, with my dreaded willows only loosing their leaves for 5 weeks. I'm trying to get my head around CEC, if you add Ca2+, Mg2+, Na+, K+, you get the CEC. The remainder is what, hydrogen? Is this assumed, what about aluminium? Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Hope many went to sleep to the sound of rain on the tin roof last night. LL Liz
Re: Compost Tea List/tomatoes
on 29/8/02 8:40 AM, Roger Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trem, Chris wrote: Will try Charles Wilber's method of growing tomatoes next year, my cages won't be more than 8 feet tall though. I came across an idea in an Australian magazine (Grass Roots, I think) for growing tomatoes. Materials needed are six empty 20 litre (5 gallon) drums (like the ones motor oil comes in), three pieces of steel concrete mesh 2.4m (8 feet) long by 1.2m wide and six steel star pickets (posts). Of course the mesh can be as long as needed. Prepare the bed. Place the drums in position so a piece of mesh will lay flat on top with two drums at each end and two in the middle set back from the edges of the mesh a bit. Drive steel posts well into into the ground on the inside of the four corners and on the inside of the middle section aligned with the others. Securely wire the mesh to the posts. Pull the drums out and reposition then on the mesh. Lay another piece on the drums, fitting it over the posts. Wire it to the posts. Repeat the process with the third piece. Take the drums away and use them for something else. SNIP Friends of mine who live in a rocky area tried this method as getting stakes into their ground proved to be a difficult task. They are very pleased with the results of this method, they've had higher yields and less problems all around with their tomatoes. Liz
Re: Prep container B.C.
If you can't get the timber to hold then make it as a cow manure compost above ground. The remedies are held much better in this form and Earth energy is collected in the manure rather than the opposite process when it is buried below ground level. What else you put with it should be to meet the needs of the environment that you are working in. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Dave Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:23 AM Subject: Barrel compost At 12:01 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, sharon wrote: . last time i tried 504 there wasn't much left in the ground. the worms must have et it. Worm don't usually eat nettle, but other plants will send their roots to it esp. nettle and grapes. as to the b.c. it is quite expensive and hard to find a clean , small wooden keg,as recomended. We make a wooden box from scrap lumber, it's not even round. Seems to work ok. I have made a barrel in the past, rip a bevel on a bunch of wooden slats and band them together into a cylinder. Using regular (Doug fir) lumber, it's only good for about one season. So hasn't been worth the trouble. David Robison
Re: Rain
Title: Re: Rain From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rain and some wonderful incan corn from smuggled seed that toppled. Stand them back up, lightly step them in - they'll be fine! Take some rescue remedy! L*L Markess
Re: Rain
Stand them back up, lightly step them in - they'll be fine! Take some rescue remedy! Have done. Will do.
Re: Prep container
thanks roger for all the good advice , i'll save ,use and share it :)sharon - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Prep container Dave Robison wrote: We make a wooden box from scrap lumber, it's not even round. Seems to work ok. I have made a barrel in the past, rip a bevel on a bunch of wooden slats and band them together into a cylinder. Using regular (Doug fir) lumber, it's only good for about one season. So hasn't been worth the trouble. Douglas fir is very similar to Radiata (Monterey) pine, may even be the same. When supplied by the lumber yard it is too high in water content, usually around 12% if not more. Timber is a living substance so it should reflect the prevailing ambient conditions. Coating with poly products suffocates it through changing the composition of the outer 5mm to a hard impenetrable surface, the inner wood slowly dries out, crumbles, and the item falls apart. Softwoods rarely last more than a few years if coated on all four sides. Paint (other than poly based), no matter how many coats, protects timber and allows it to breathe. Pine may be seasoned with sodium bicarbonate dissolved in tepid water, one tablespoon to 750ml (medium sized dog food can), stir well, apply with a 4 brush, one coat is enough. The bicarb dries the timber by driving water out of the cells. There's also an actual colour change to yellow. Allow to dry (doesn't take long). Coat it on all sides with a 70/30 mixture of gum turpentine and boiled linseed oil. (That is, 70% gt + 30% oil. Linseed oil comes in two sorts, boiled and raw. Don't use the raw, it doesn't dry out.) Use a 2 brush and then rub in with a lint-free cloth. Allow to dry 24 hours. Seal with a beeswax polish. Gourds and pumpkins may be protected with the same turps/linseed oil mix. I've made caskets in the past for pets (deceased, of course) from recycled cedar because it resists rot and soil organisms. Could be useful. roger
Re: Rain
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Rain Stand them back up, lightly step them in - they'll be fine! Take some rescue remedy! Have done. Will do. Give the corn some rescue remedy too ! (not kidding) LCharles
