Re: Cancer etc
Merla, I am off th JPI- will right more on return early next week. BLessings on us all-Sunny
Re: Organic Inputs
- Original Message - From: Liz Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Organic Inputs > Hi Lloyd, > Have found all the analysis for inorganic and organic fertilisers in one > book. (An American book so I'll have to do some extra calculations) No need > for you to fax me that info, thanks though. > > Strong winds today with the sky tainted red from all the topsoil. The last > of the green fades on the hills, never have I witnessed a spring > (summer,yes) like it. On the bright side there's no spending 8 - 10 hrs a > week behind a push mower. The bore still plentiful, but for the first time > it is not overflowing, the dams mere puddles, beginning to crack on the > edges. And this one of the few areas not declared drought stricken. > > How's it at your place? > > L&L > Liz Hi Liz Just starting to get nasty here . We are getting dust in from the west (south australian and south western NSW mallee I think ) wind like you wouldnt believe. Crops near enough to a write off - we have/are grazing about half of it and will harvest a bit for seed off the balance. It will likely take us five fair to good seasons to get back to where we were 12 months ago. We will fatten the remainder of our sheep, on failed crop and stored grain, over the next two months and de - stock until we get a seasonal break, otherwise we will start to loose topsoil from the wind. Still have reasonable water supplies - only because of the hard work and considerable money we have spent building and maintaining large farm dams. The financial pain comes (in a large dose) from the middle of next year till harvest. Have been re negotiating finances for the last two months in an effort to beat the rush and put a survival plan in place. Luckily fat sheep prices have held up reasonably well so we can at least get a return from that part of the excercise and if they're too dear to buy after the rains come we can plant more crop for a year or two. Its the wind that really gets me I could not live in those windy regions of western australia. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Cancer etc
Sunny, Please speak more about the "microcosmic expression of our macrocosmic thought life." I also just read the email which contained a reference in a book called Permanent Peace of changing the war vibrations we are feeling so strongly now to peace by a large number of people engaging in transcendental meditation. I am very drawn to these ideas, and would like to hear yours and other people's explanation of them. Also, I'm thinking about the idea that "we are all one." When we are stung by the rudeness of someone who is our philosophically opposite, it is very hard not to return the hate. What kind of process must we go through to change ourselves so that we are impervious to all the setbacks in ideological battles. RS certainly felt pain from these kind of attacks. Sincerely, Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony, All the suggestions given are important, I would say that with all "new" treatments addressing the 'disease of our time' i.e "cancer", there will be lots of misinterpretations, which lead to fear, which will keep those who may benefit from said therapies unaware of alternatives, so to speak. Cancer is a microcosmic expression of our macrocosmic thought life, I would say, I would like to see us addressing this pressing issue in our times, as well as treatments for the actual diseases of the manifestation of our collective unconcsiousness. Blessings, Sunny
Organics: Cheap Oil/Clean Food
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Many longtime organics advocates ... imagine massive mono-cropped fields with their own environmental problems, and fear being driven out of business because larger producers will be able to offer organic food at lower prices. ... However, Warren Weber, a pioneer of organic farming in California, says the latest developments are a sign that the movement has succeeded "beyond its wildest dreams." >> I am inclined to agree with both Mr. Weber and the longtime advocates: there is the very real fear of being out-competed; however, at the same time, we are witnessing the "acknowledgment" by agribusiness of the "organic" model of production. Let's face it, the entire corporate/agribusiness food production system, as we know it, is being held aloft by a magic carpet of cheap petroleum. Corporate Farmer Brown climbs upon his fuel sucking steed to apply his fuel-dependent, oil-derived petro-pharmaceutical chemistry; the food is then shipped an average of 1200-1500 miles from field to table by way of clattering petroleum-driven pistons; and simultaneously the corporate factories churn out "semi-edible recreational fodder" on the backs of dinosaurs; and so on ... Turn the valve closed on the oil barrel and watch the entire contemporary complex start to crumble. The bigger they are ... While there is cheap petroleum available, local grown produce (BD, organic, or otherwise) cannot compete on a playing field dictated exclusively by PRICE. There are varying opinions, but the cheap stuff is anticipated to be history in about 10-20 years. Big Petrol, Big Auto, Big Biz, AgriBiz, etc., all will most certainly run the show until then. How do you compete? With their access to relatively "free" petroleum energy, years of market share and staggering profits, government bedfellows, and a firm grip on the media and advertising, we 'localists' are but a mere fly on the bull's arse! HOWEVER, when the oil well runs dry, ladies and gentlemen of farm and field (and if we humans are still around in an organized society of some sort), get your sunscreen 'cause with a little luck, it just might be your day in the sun. Maybe. At least we can hope for some kind of significant change ... But I don't see "The Have's" willingly giving up control of anything if it can be avoided. In my feeble estimation, without cheap energy, you can no longer ship product thousands of miles to consumers or operate from centralized production "hubs" profitably. Green peppers in the USA from Holland? You are joking, right? Without profit, can you say -- once again -- virtually everything "locally grown" (circa dawn-of-man to post industrial revolution). There may be new technology or perhaps a step back to something like coal and steam power, however, that may allow the powers-that-be to persist for another hundred years for all I know. Pure speculation. Until the Jolly Green Giant falls, stay the course. Keep up the BD, organic, and specialty direct marketing. We'll take the fight to 'em, one health-promoting dinner plate at a time. In other news ... It is not perfect, but grasp the reality of a recognized national organic standard -- by the USDA no less!! Just a few years ago, growing clean food was looked upon by some as a joke ... a passing elitist fad ... a waste of valuable soil resources ... a practice condemned due to alleged poor production -- a sure way to starve the masses! It is now recognized and is being implemented by the very agribiz industry that for years tried to kill it. In the immortal words of Dr. Frankenstein, "IT'S ALIVE!" Biodude
Re: Organic Inputs
Hi Lloyd, Have found all the analysis for inorganic and organic fertilisers in one book. (An American book so I'll have to do some extra calculations) No need for you to fax me that info, thanks though. Strong winds today with the sky tainted red from all the topsoil. The last of the green fades on the hills, never have I witnessed a spring (summer,yes) like it. On the bright side there's no spending 8 - 10 hrs a week behind a push mower. The bore still plentiful, but for the first time it is not overflowing, the dams mere puddles, beginning to crack on the edges. And this one of the few areas not declared drought stricken. How's it at your place? L&L Liz on 19/10/02 10:22 AM, Lloyd Charles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Liz Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:54 AM > Subject: Re: Organic Inputs > > >> Thanks Lloyd and Tony, appreciate your feed back. Know what you mean > Lloyd >> by jumping through the hoops, just don't want to do that anymore. Bad > hoop >> jumper. > Yeah me too I got sick of it !! > I will locate a fax # in the next few days. >> Tony those were exactly the sort of breakdowns I'm looking for, thanks. >> I've got all the calculations, just don't want to work from an incitec >> brochure. Thanks for the further reading, my 4 month summer break will be >> full of such reading. >> >> Whilst here, have any of you attended a Stoneage Farming course by Alanna >> Moore? Have a chance to go to one in Mudgee in Nov, sounds interesting. > > Hi Liz > We had Alanna Moore here last year for a one day course - it was > interesting - 14 mostly non dowsing, more or less conventional farmers, had > a great day, we put up a paramagnetic tower in the yard. I would say go, it > wont be all that expensive, and you will have a good time. > Lloyd Charles > > >
FW: [globalnews] Starhawk Issues Code Pink Alert: Unreasonablewomen's call to action
Title: FW: [globalnews] Starhawk Issues Code Pink Alert: Unreasonable women's call to action Starhawk Code Pink: Women’s Pre-Emptive Strike for Peace Call to Action We call on women around the world to rise up and oppose the war in Iraq. We call on mothers, grandmothers, sisters and daughters, on workers, students, teachers, healers, artists, writers, singers, poets, and every ordinary outraged woman willing to be outrageous for peace. Women have been the guardians of life—not because we are better or purer or more innately nurturing than men, but because the men have busied themselves making war. Because of our responsibility to the next generation, because of our own love for our families and communities and this country that we are a part of, we understand the love of a mother in Iraq for her children, and the driving desire of that child for life. Our leaders tell us we that we can easily afford hundreds of billions of dollars for this war. But in the United States of America, many of our elders who have worked hard all their lives now must choose whether to buy their prescription drugs, or food. Our children’s education is eroded. The air they breathe and the water they drink are polluted. Vast numbers of women and children live in poverty. If we cannot afford health care, quality education and quality of life, how can we afford to squander our resources in attacking a country that is no proven immediate threat to us? We face real threats every day: the illness or ordinary accident that could plunge us into poverty, the violence on our own streets, the corporate corruption that can result in the loss of our jobs, our pensions, our security. In Iraq today, a child with cancer cannot get pain relief or medication because of sanctions. Childhood diarrhea has again become a major killer. 500,000 children have already died from inadequate health care, water and food supplies due to sanctions. How many more will die if bombs fall on Baghdad, or a ground war begins? We cannot morally consent to war while paths of peace and negotiation have not been pursued to their fullest. We who cherish children will not consent to their murder. Nor do we consent to the murder of their mothers, grandmothers, fathers, grandfathers, or to the deaths of our own sons and daughters in a war for oil. We love our country, but we will never wrap ourselves in red, white and blue. Instead, we announce a Code Pink alert: signifying extreme danger to all the values of nurturing, caring, and compassion that women and loving men have held. We choose pink, the color of roses, the beauty that like bread is food for life; the color of the dawn of a new era when cooperation and negotiation prevail over force. We call on all outraged women to join us in taking a stand, now. And we call upon our brothers to join with us and support us. These actions will be initiated by women, but not limited to women. Stand in the streets and marketplaces of your towns with banners and signs of dissent, and talk to your neighbors. Stand before your elected representatives: and if they will not listen, sit in their offices, refusing to leave until they do. Withdraw consent from the warmongers. Engage in outrageous acts of dissent. We encourage all actions, from public education and free speech to nonviolent civil disobedience that can disrupt the progress toward war. http://www.codepink4peace.org A Code Pink Diary By Starhawk Tuesday, October 1, 2002 I am mostly thinking about how to perhaps take in a museum and go to the airport when I drive over to meet with Medea Benjamin of Global Exchange, to talk about organizing around the war in Iraq. I’m in Washington DC, staying on for a day or two after the actions around the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. The war vote is coming up in Congress in the coming week. Medea is hanging out with Diane Wilson, who has been organizing in her home state of Texas against major toxic polluters, Mary Bull, who spearheads Save the Redwoods/Boycott the Gap, Margo Bielecki who is a climber and activist from California. We’re joined later by Jodi Evans and Carolyn Casey, astrologer, writer and host of the Visionary Activist radio show. I was thinking in terms of a leisurely breakfast conversation about long term organizing. I was definitely not thinking about doing an action—I’d spent Friday morning on the streets with the Pagan cluster marching as part of the Anti-Capitalist Convergence actions to shut down DC. By nine AM, we were in jail—where we’d remained for thirty-six hours, missing the events of Saturday. On Sunday, we’d marched for peace. On Monday, we’d done press conferences and media work. I was ready to go home. But by the end of the afternoon, I’d postponed my flight, helped to dream up a series of actions for the next day, written a call to action, scouted at least one of our action sites, helped to make signs and banners, and recruited the remaining Pa
FW: [helpinghands] Strawbale homes-data
Title: FW: [helpinghands] Strawbale homes-data If this helps, L*L Markess Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:49:27 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Straw Bale Registry Update Message-Id: A quick update on the International Straw Bale Registry (http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/) We now list a total of 846 straw bale homes in 18 countries worldwide, including 38 US states and 6 Canadian provinces. Many of you have also supplied mortgage and insurance contacts for the companies you have used. (please update your listing if you haven't...) We also know that there are a *lot* more out there. Please list yours if you haven't already, and encourage your straw bale dwelling friends to do the same. Web stats show over 1500 visits to the Registry during both August and September, with an average of 240 visitors also checking out the Mortgage and Insurance pages. -- Bill Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Green Building Professionals Directory: http://directory.greenbuilder.com Sustainable Building Calendar: http://www.greenbuilder.com/calendar/ Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/ Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Community email addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/natbldg Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .
Re: Cancer etc
If it's cancer cures you're after you may want to check out this website: http://www.tibetanrefugeehealth.org/ Click on the link for Dr. Yeshi Dhonden, the 80+ Tibetan Monk/physician in cancer trials with UC (SF) and in many hospitals in India. Very interesting and high success rates. There's also a great film available on video called "The Knowledge of Healing" about Tibetan medicine. Jane > From: "Tony Nelson-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:55:39 + > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cancer etc > > Thanks, folks, for useful responses. I'll check out recommended websites > asap; it was a matter of curiosity, I'm glad to say that (so far as I > know!) I have no immediate need for mistletoe/Iscador therapy. As to the > queried efficacy of this preparation, I guess it's the usual problem of > conventional medics testing alternative therapies in inappropriate ways. > Tony N-S. > > > > > > _ > Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >
Fw: The barbed wire won¹t keep contamination in,but it will keep consultation out
feel free to join in ! thanks, gideon. - Original Message - From: "Munlochy Vigil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MV02" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: The barbed wire won¹t keep contamination in,but it will keep consultation out Please read, act, and circulate! Thanks -- >From the Greenpeace website: http://www.greenpeace.org/news/details?news_id=47978 Plotting behind the fence The barbed wire won¹t keep contamination in, but it will keep consultation out Tue 22 October 2002 BELGIUM/Brussels Jim Thomas woke up to another sleepy day in Brussels, but the police were up long before. The day¹s mission protecting the powerful GE seed industry from protestors while they plot the contamination of the European food supply. Jim tells the story from this side of the fence. Sometimes Greenpeace uncovers the bad guys, and sometimes they uncover themselves. This rainy Monday morning a Greenpeace supporter in Brussels tipped us off that the European Seed Industry was meeting to discuss genetically engineered seed - not that it was difficult to tell! When we arrived to check it out we discovered an entire Brussels street had been cordoned off with razor wire. Armoured vans and over 110 police surrounded the Crowne plaza hotel with the sort of protection usually afforded to ministers and heads of states. So what exactly was going on inside? "Its a meeting about the transgenic seeds," explained a friendly policeman handing out Belgian waffles to his troops manning the barbed wire "They are worried that Greenpeace will find out." There was a time when the seed industry was about providing farmers and gardeners with the seeds they needed to grow the food people wanted. Today's seed industry however is another arm of the genetic engineering industry and is made to dance to their tune. The world's largest seed companies are now either owned by GE companies (such as Du Pont's Pioneer Seeds) or are themselves GE companies such as Monsanto, Bayer and Syngenta. First they tried to mix GE ingredients with the food unlabelled. Then they tried unsuccessfully to convince farmers and consumers to support GE crops. Now they moving on to plan C: Contamination. Plan C: Contamination. "The real strategy is to introduce so much genetic pollution that meeting the consumer demand for GM-free food is seen as not possible. The idea, quite simply, is to pollute faster than countries can legislate - then change the laws to fit the contamination." Naomi Klein, When Choice Becomes Just A Memory, The Guardian, January 21, 2001 For two years the European Seed Association has been at the forefront of lobbying for a new European Seed Contamination Directive. That regulation was due to be finalised next month. It would allow an initial release of up to 7000 million unregulated and unmonitored GE plants across Europe by contaminating ordinary planting seed that all farmers buy. It could affect the 10 percent of EU arable land currently planted to maize and oilseed rape. It could introduce an unprecedented amount of GE contamination into the food chain. Greenpeace and others have warned that it would add extra costs to farmers and could destroy the viability of the European organic industry which must stay GE-free. In one respect the barbed wire was no surprise. The proposed Seed Contamination Directive has so far been characterised by closed doors and secrecy. In an unusual move, both the European Parliament and Council of EU Environment ministers are being excluded from the decision making process on this controversial measure. Instead an unelected technical committee, the Standing Committee on Seeds, are being asked to give the final go ahead for what may be the biggest single release of GE crops Europe has ever seen. The only other body who will have any say is the World Trade Organisation. It feels like a stitch-up from start to finish. Perhaps though the seed industry has good reason to be worried. In the past few weeks thousands of Greenpeace cyberactivists have been emailing European ministers to alert them to the real cost of the GE Seed Contamination Directive. Last week Greenpeace and others presented an online petition signed by over 70,000 individuals and 300 farmer, environmental and consumer groups representing over 25 million members. Franz Fischler, Commissioner for Agriculture, who received the petition seemed surprised and concerned by the scope of impact of legalising seed contamination. Down in central Brussels police are still standing in the rain and waiting in riot vans. They have even closed down the botanical garden, a little green haven of biodiversity, so that the genetically engineered seed industry can safely plan the destruction of our agricultural diversity away from public view. An undercover detective stops me and searches my bags, expecting Greenpeace climbers and thousands of activists to arrive momentarily on the street. I smile as I think of the thous
Re: Cancer etc
Tony, All the suggestions given are important, I would say that with all "new" treatments addressing the 'disease of our time' i.e "cancer", there will be lots of misinterpretations, which lead to fear, which will keep those who may benefit from said therapies unaware of alternatives, so to speak. Cancer is a microcosmic expression of our macrocosmic thought life, I would say, I would like to see us addressing this pressing issue in our times, as well as treatments for the actual diseases of the manifestation of our collective unconcsiousness. Blessings, Sunny
Organics.......
WEEKLY GRIST 10 Oct-16 Oct 2002 http://www.gristmagazine.com 1. CHEETOS SOMETIMES PROSPER Here are two words you never thought you'd see next to each other: organic Cheetos. Yep, it's true -- snack-food maker Frito Lay is entering the organic food market, along with dozens of other huge food companies. Heinz now makes organic ketchup, and General Mills owns Cascadian Farms, an organic brand started in the Northwest in the 1970s. Such companies hope to make a buck off a new USDA logo that, as of next week, will indicate that food has been grown without genetically modified material or irradiation, and with little or no chemicals or antibiotics. Many long-time organics advocates are dismayed that mega-corporations have entered what had been a niche market; they imagine massive mono-cropped fields with their own environmental problems, and fear being driven out of business because larger producers will be able to offer organic food at lower prices. Others believe agribusiness simply isn't compatible with the organic vision of food grown in a local and sustainable fashion. However, Warren Weber, a pioneer of organic farming in California, says the latest developments are a sign that the movement has succeeded "beyond its wildest dreams." San Francisco Chronicle, Kim Severson, 13 Oct 2002 http://www.gristmagazine.com/forward.pl?forward_id=568 CLIP 8. CARROT JUICE Compost isn't just for your garden anymore: Scientists at the University of the West of England have created a microbial fuel-cell battery powered by organic waste. The miniature battery converts biochemical energy from food into electricity, using E. coli bacteria that release hydrogen atoms as they break down carbohydrates. The fuel cell runs on sugar cubes, and the scientists are currently using it to run a light-sensitive robot. But eventually a series of connected cells, sold for about $15 each, could power home appliances, the scientists say. And possible creative improvements abound: "They aim to move on to carrot power," New Scientist magazine reported. CNN.com, Reuters, 10 Oct 2002 http://www.gristmagazine.com/forward.pl?forward_id=583 --- See also: Tohoku University Professor Produces Hydrogen from the Sunlight http://www.eyeforfuelcells.com September 30, 2002-- Tohoku University Prof. Kazuyuki Toji has discovered an efficient way to create hydrogen, which can be used in fuel cells to produce clean energy, by exposing a hydrogen sulfide solution to sunlight. Toji's discovery is expected to reduce costs in producing hydrogen for fuel cells. Hydrogen is mainly produced by passing electricity through water, but it can also be created through photodecomposition when hydrogen sulfide is exposed to sunlight. CLIP -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Sharon and Wayne McEachern "Expressing the Light" http://www.ExpressingTheLight.com "A Ministry Dedicated to the Divine Process" and "Light Expression Essences" http://www.LightExpression.com "A Divine Program for Healing and Transformation" *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
