Re: Mad cow update ect...
I don't know much about the origins of Mad Cow, but in reading the reply that was posted, I was not clear on whether or not Purdey was saying it was the result of radioactivity? Lucia On Wed, 28 May 2003, Allan Balliett wrote: Thanks for this profound post, Markess. I remind everyone: if you want to discuss this the origins of Mad Cow and other 'wasting diseases' with Mark Purdey, please post any questions you have to the list. This discussion will be driven by your questions and comments and will not, I am told, fly into your mouth like roast pigeon. This is a great opportunity. I pray that we as a group do not miss it. -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow -- -lucia http://lrw.net - No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. -- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816 _ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\- against microsoft attachments ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
Just for clarification: I think the argument for pasture-fed ruminates has already been won in the biological farming movement. I do not think that anyone in this movement who has been paying attention thinks that it is ok to feed by-products (proteins) or grains, for that matter, to grazing animals. I agree that we live in a self-made cesspool, a world we've thrown out of balance. (Anyone sense that the recent earthquakes were brought on by the big bombs the US dropped in IRAQ?) We also know that it is a problem that is not going to be readily solved because there is so little agreement about its sources or solutions. The mad cow situation, however, presents not so much a threat to human health as it does to the future of farming, with governments given martial law-type powers to destroy herds. Purdey's research reveals that there is no need to destroy these herds and that the origins of mad cow (what do we need to say? the ACUTE origins of Mad Cow Disease...) are in inappropriate government policies (too much insecticide applied to already imbalanced herds) I'm not too optimistic that there is anything we can do about what the governments are doing in response to Mad Cow, primarily because none of us are clear on what their true motivations are. What I think is clear is that even through everything is broken, Mad Cow represents a particularly disconcerting disruption of 'health as usual' and I, for one, feel much more comfortable with Purdey's explanation than I do with the 'official' one. As for quoting Steiner, well, he also said that farms might taste better with peppers on them, didn't he? What was he getting at?? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad Cows Englishmen
Non reporting in the US media. I get the local news here and farming issues are big news. They are saying different and new things almost every day it is weird I will keep people updated on our local news as long as everyone is interested? peace eric On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 09:13 PM, Allan Balliett wrote: I haven't seen a word about this on US media. Is this just because I've been on a media blackout since the season began, or is it not being covered in the US? -Allan -17 Farms under Quarantine and they have started slaughtering herds so tell that Mark Purdy to hurry up and get up here. Anything to stop the insanity and FEAR of it all. -They were talking about this being a singular and spontaneous occurrence? on the radio yesterday! PEACE eric ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
AB BSE/ news
The day after Alberta announced Mad Cow, the US closed its border to imports of Canadian beef. Same thing with other countries the next day. The US acted very fast. The Can. Health Min. is in consultation with the US in re-opening the border for export to the US contingent on no new cases. In BC, there are 3 farms under quarantine, 2 right here in the Fraser Valley and one near Prince George. Some goats were either culled or quar. because they received animal feed from AB. PL, Michael ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
One of the issues that interests me is why there is a need to feed more protien and so much so that meat meal is considered as a source for ruminants with such long digestive tracts? Is it because the application of watersoluble fertilisers particulally nitrogen is reducing the protien levels in plants? My partner Gill Cole is working on some aspects of this for her Master of Science thesis right now. Lettuces have been the test plant and various mixes and matches of the preparations have been used. She has a list of other questions that I could pass on to anyone who would like to discuss them. From what I've taken from Mark Purdies dissertation we should see that copper zinc and selenium should be well supplied in the soil and the major cations should be well balanced too, plus active use of the Steiner remedies. One might also ask why the Warble fly is such a pest and would peppering be part of the remedy? Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Mad cow update ect... Just for clarification: I think the argument for pasture-fed ruminates has already been won in the biological farming movement. I do not think that anyone in this movement who has been paying attention thinks that it is ok to feed by-products (proteins) or grains, for that matter, to grazing animals. The mad cow situation, however, presents not so much a threat to human health as it does to the future of farming, with governments given martial law-type powers to destroy herds. Purdey's research reveals that there is no need to destroy these herds and that the origins of mad cow (what do we need to say? the ACUTE origins of Mad Cow Disease...) are in inappropriate government policies (too much insecticide applied to already imbalanced herds) I'm not too optimistic that there is anything we can do about what the governments are doing in response to Mad Cow, primarily because none of us are clear on what their true motivations are. What I think is clear is that even through everything is broken, Mad Cow represents a particularly disconcerting disruption of 'health as usual' and I, for one, feel much more comfortable with Purdey's explanation than I do with the 'official' one. As for quoting Steiner, well, he also said that farms might taste better with peppers on them, didn't he? What was he getting at?? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing
Sorry about not picking up as a joke. I agree that humour is the best medicine and one does not need a prescription and seldom does one die of an over dose. Why I made the point was because I once helped a guy do some peppering, the timeing and process weremeticulously correct yet those little animals took not a blind bit of notice. All the way through the process feelings of hate and worse were expressed. Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: GM foods and gut lesions -- was Monsanto's Canola
I thought G.M. meant Genetically Muddled. Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: GM foods and gut lesions -- was Monsanto's Canola In a message dated 5/13/03 1:55:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will someone explain -- when should one use the term GM (genetically modified) vs. GE (genetically engineered) ? take care, -Lily Don't give them the credit of using a term like engineered or modified. I like the descriptive term of genetically 'prostituted' or 'raped'...sstorch or 'hacked' -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
Lettuces have been the test plant and various mixes and matches of the preparations have been used. She has a list of other questions that I could pass on to anyone who would like to discuss them. I'd like to see these! -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
One might also ask why the Warble fly is such a pest and would peppering be part of the remedy? Peter. If you follow the dollar trail, massive amounts of pesticides were applied to 'the entire british herd' at 3 times the normal application rate. It appears to me that the move to eradicate the fly was a move to put a lot of public money into someone's pockets. All the more its about money because the cover up is motivated by the damage suits that would follow if truth were known. It's scarey business to see government, big business, and the press working so well together against the interest of man and Nature. Oh, please add this to my last dozen posts: IMHO -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad Cows Englishmen
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:55 AM, Turtle Bend wrote: From: Eric this being a singular and spontaneous occurrence Brother all SEs are exactly that singular and spontaneous occurrence's nothing more nothin less. There is no known mode of transmission because there is none. L*L Markess___ Now that is funny! but seriously folks I had an interesting thought on the side of Mark Purdy's from the energetic side of things for those of us interested in such things Organophosfates would have an extremely high fire element component to them and the purpose or supposed intent of its use, would be to rid the cattle of the warble fly. So in essence what they are doing is peppering the warble fly while it is still in the cattle. This action of peppering inside the cow is punching physical quantum holes throughout the cows brain. (along with the copper/manganese reaction acting as the conduit, copper being a very good conductor of universal energies) are you following me on this or am I way off base and being silly? Or am I describing the energetic action of Mark Purdy's work? Remembering that they almost had to invent!!!? a protein (prion?) that was nearly impossible to detect to describe what was going on I still think that there are TWO issues here with NEARLY THE SAME OUTCOME the remnant food one and the one Mark Purdy discovered. The problem I see with the truth is usually one person discovers something and says ureeka I got it! and then proceeds to spread the word to everyone around him. Usually they have part of the truth but the problem is that there are 'almost' no absolutes in the universe. BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Allan Balliett wrote: (Anyone sense that the recent earthquakes were brought on by the big bombs the US dropped in IRAQ?) YES. definitly had that thought. weren't there also earthquakes after they bombed Afghanistan? ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
