Re: Fwd: Prep 500 and 501 effects
Glen, I look forward eagerly to discussion with you as e-mail is entirely too inadequate. Hugh Hugh The main reference we need to refer to is the diagram in lec 8- pg 155 I think. >From what you have said below you have what RS is saying re Cosmic and Earthly nutrition streams in humans which is a 4 fold story. With plants though you keep telling a 3 fold story. So apply your 4 fold understanding of humans to plants Double Head forces = below ground Double Metabolic system = above ground. Dear Glen, I'm sure I still don't have it straight. I'm very visual in my thinking, meaning I want to picture things unfolding in my mind so I can see the processes unfolding and be able to cite examples everyone can relate to in everyday experience. It leaves me in limbo to say 'double head forces' and only works when I can say WHAT double head forces, as in carrot or turnip and ant or earthworm and what these DO. For example, watch ants living on Florida sugar sand and you'll see they delve down and mine clay, bringing it up to the surface where it is so badly needed to serve as the intermediary between the silica forces rising out of the earth and the nutrient uptake by the plant that the silica forces provide the pressure but not the connection for. Clay provides the connection (though not the pressure) and on those soils where there's 60 feet of sand before you hit the limestone below, perennial peanut needs this clay to connect with the lime below and bring it up. With all that sand there's plenty of pressure, but the lime's deep down. The peanut gets there with its tap root (which takes it 3 or 4 years to delve that deep, but once it does--step back!) but it needs a bit of clay to do so. Ants go down and search out the clay (there usually is little enough down there) and bring it up so the peanut can catch on a lot better. Once the peanut gets to the lime, the soil it's in (pH 5.2, CEC 2) will improve of itself with rotational graizing and you'll see that sugar sand colour up with grey/browns and the pH and CEC will climb as the plant pulls carbon in from the atmosphere and feeds it to the soil, while the soil pulls nitrogen in and feeds it to the plant. The cow eats the peanut forage and digests the carbon and nitrogen, feeding the carbon back to the air and the nitrogen back to the soil. Now let's take this example and go through it tagging all the little components of the process with earthly forces, cosmic forces, earthly substances, cosmic substances. For example, nitrogen feeds/builds the human head and its activities, so it must come from the soil. Oxygen feeds/builds the limbs and their activities so it must come from the air. That is because--as Steiner so cogently pointed out--we must develop our head organization out of what we take in from eating (earthly, below ground stuff like lime, phosphorus, nitrogen), while we develop our limbs and metabolic system out of what we take in by breathing (cosmic, above ground stuff like oxygen, carbon, sliica). If we break everything down like this I believe it will be a lot clearer from tieing it in to real/life examples like the ant, earthworm; perennial peanut, cow; silica, clay and lime, etc. Sorry, but I never seem to get there by way of these soaring abstractions that are free and clear of any examples and any real-life, gutsy, look-at-this stuff. I have to tie it into the things in nature I can point to as examples. I'm always amazed by anyone who can grasp these things as purely abstract principles and yet never seems to come up with the example-after-example thing. Hell, everything in nature is an example. I really must get to the endless examples immediately or there's nothing to ground my thinking and it sails off into la-la land like nitrogen in the atmosphere. I need some lime in my thinking to drag nitrogen into my head organization and light up my conscious thinking. Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.net ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?/certification
Dear List, Of course, writers on this list sometimes disparrage others either on this list or off it. A couple cases in point are: People are using the real preps, (as though homeopathic and radionically prepared preps are not real) Well I meant real in the sense of substantial living matter. Whatever. There is an obvious difference between these, um..manifestations? of the preps. Obviously the EU thinks so - there seems to be no ban on homoeopathic dilutions or Malcolm Rae cards. ... With that said, please let me address certification. We are free to certify or not to. Like I said in another post - there are those who already have established customers who trust their growers - those growers have no benefit from certification. Here in the US some of the better known pioneers of the organic movement--Elliott Coleman and myself for two--have opted out of certification You must be a lot older than I thought Hugh. i thought the pioneers of the organic movement were active world wide in the 1930s,40s and 50s, except for Steiner, who preceded these others by a decade, or more! now that the government has taken it over by force. Why? We don't want to lend our good names to what we perceive as a prostitution of the founding ideals of the movement. I don't think it has so much to do with size. Some very large growers have a reputation for reliable quality--Lundberg rice, Coleman beef, etc. that far transcends the organic label. Arrowhead Mills had it at one time and hasn't entirely lost it after changing hands. ... Otherwise I am in agreement with your other comments on certification. Spot on as we convicts say! -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re:501+clay against rust
Steve wrote: ...As you stir clockwise sing in ascending tones into the stirring pot and as you stir counter clock wise sing in descending tones... Thanks for the advice. I usually run preps through a stack of small flowforms instead of stirring - would this be satisfactory (don't know how/when I should sing to them)? When best tospray (time of day, astrological situation)? Tony N-S. _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Fwd: Prep 500 and 501 effects
Hugh Now let's take this example and go through it tagging all the little components of the process with "earthly forces, cosmic forces, earthly substances, cosmic substances." For example, nitrogen feeds/builds the human head and its activities, so it must come from the soil. So we have to look for the substances and forces coming from the head / soil as a double process not a single one What is Silica coming upwards and what is Calcium coming upwards??? Physically we have all sorts of Cations - Ca Mg Na K etcthese are diamagnetic elements and therefore can be seen as part of the Earthly substance. WE thenhave anions in N, P, S etc as well as paramagnetic elements which would be seen as the physical Si or Cosmic force elements Energetically we have forces coming from the Earth upwards too The "Cosmic forces" / outer planet 1 forces are those that carry the archetype of the the plant upwards, in doing so they thrust the plant upwards and work on the strength of the cell wall and the basis for the silica structures of the plant The "Earthly substance' activity are the calcium process inner planet 2,that are active in germination and cell division ie the number of cell devided, and physically are concerned with the development of amount and quality of the tissue structure in the plant. The quality of this Earthly Substance / Calcium process working in with the cosmic foces / Siprocess determines the structural quality of any plant as it grows into space. We off course can talk about how if the Cosmic Forces dominate we get tap roots, if the Earthly substance dominates we get the ramified roots and so on. If the Cosmic Forces do not move upwards as they should then the stalks are weak, there is no archetypal impulse for the atmospheric Silica / Earthly forces to hook on to to allow for flowering, let alone seed formation or for fruit to blow out. If the Earthly substance /Earthly Ca is not active then the plant tissues are weak, undernourished and therefore break down and rot easily. This is the rot of Ca in fungal control. Cell division is not great and so the fruit does not have many cells to be filled out by the mass devlopment of the Atmospheric Ca / cosmic substance. Oxygen feeds/builds the limbs and their activities so it must come from the air. That is because--as Steiner so cogently pointed out--we must develop our head organization out of what we take in from eating (earthly, below ground stuff like lime, phosphorus, nitrogen), while we develop our limbs and metabolic system out of what we take in by breathing (cosmic, above ground stuff like oxygen, carbon, sliica). So in the above ground limbs, where is this a two fold process The Oxygen with its inherenet association to the etheric body provide at least a partial hint. In the metabolism we need to look for theCosmic substance and Earthly forces. The Oxygen you mention as the the mass developer coming from our breathing, is the homeopathic calcium RS mentions in the atmosphere, which does the same thing. This is all the plant potentised 'susbstance' that the plant has exuded out into the atmosphere via transpiration. Callum Coates so eloquently describes this process in 'Living Water'on pg 220?? or there abouts when he talks about the flow of water through the plant. He describes how the water comes to the soil with its atmosphereic N, exchanges this for cations which are taken up into the plant. As the water spirals thru the ever decreasing 'veins'of the plant, the elements are taken out of the water while in turn the water is potentised via the vacuums created by the spiralling. Hence the water then carrys the activity of the substances it once carried. This is transpired into the atmosphere, hence becoming part of the World Etheric activity carried in the atmospheric moisture we experience asdew. It is then drawn into the plant again boththrough the stomata and also directly by the plants 'personal etheric body',This is the Cosmic Substance / Calcium process and by itself develops MASS. Left to itself it creates emorphous 'fat' forms. I have a 50 meter long row of lettuces, with each 3 meters sprayed with a different homeopathic substance. When you visit I will show you the ones sprayed with the Cosmic Substance elements and you can see for your self, what I mean. They look like they have been over done with Nitrogen except they are not blue green. They tend to a light green colour and no flavour. The etheric body is maxed out. If the atmospheric cosmic substance is not active fruit does not swell through cells filling out The Earthly Forces work in the atmospheric Silica which are primarily active in the light and warmth of the environment. The light and warmth are needed to bake the Si and Ca coming from below and the Ca from the atmosphere into a plant that will be lifted up into seed formation and nutrition. Without this light and warmth of the atmosphere
