Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Pye
Words, words, words - language, language, language

Those 'diverse methodologies' are all aspects of the same thing - an 
indefinable thing we call 'natural energy'. Add it to the soil and it 
grows stuff. Take it away from plants and they stop growing.  Applying 
'cosmic' or 'earth' forces to it in certain solid states produces 
miracles. Changing its frequency converts wood into coal, lead into 
gold, sunlight into chairs and tables.

Reiki diverts or channels it, homeopathy and BD uses its imprint, 
naturopathy uses it in herbal form, radionics relies on its frequencies.

Let your mind wander a bit, Gil, don't let convention hold you back. If 
you were lying out in a mesa with a broken leg, suffering in the burning 
sun, and a total stranger came along, produced an instrument you'd never 
seen before and offered to help you, would you refuse on the grounds 
that you knew nothing about the person or device? I suggest you would be 
grateful for any help.

We have been trying to control invasive weeds and the like for almost a 
hundred years with toxic chemicals and all we have proved is they are no 
solution. Don't you think it's past time we tried a different approach? 
Like changing the plants' energy flows, patterns and requirements, for 
instance? That is how we enliven soils and plants with BD preps - don't 
you think it might work the other way?

Roger



Gil Robertson wrote:

Roger, I enjoy your posts and much of the time, I agree with what you 
have to say in general terms and with the restraints of the imperfect 
language which we use.

But I can't let you bundle so many diverse methodologies into one basket.

If one reduces life, the universe and everything to a one liner and 
state All is energy, one could be forgiven for the above act, but if 
we give quite different things specific names, then one should also 
recognize that while there are some similarities, there are also 
differences.



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Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus

.

 We have been trying to control invasive weeds and the like for almost a
 hundred years with toxic chemicals and all we have proved is they are no
 solution. Don't you think it's past time we tried a different approach?
 Like changing the plants' energy flows, patterns and requirements, for
 instance? That is how we enliven soils and plants with BD preps - don't
 you think it might work the other way?

 Roger
Is there anywhere that toxic substances really help long term. Drugs kill or
maim as many people as they save. Look at rabbits in our countries and your
Brushtailed Possum in N.Z.
Regards,
Peter.





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Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Resonant Info
Hi All,
I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the 
Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics.  Many 
will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar.  He 
puts forward some of the points I and others have made about 
radionics and BD, but much more eloquently, and more as well.  It 
also has a response from Hugh Lovell.  Cheryl Kemp (editor) may allow 
the text to be reproduced here for those who don't receive Newsleaf.

Brian is not directly arguing against radionics as such but is asking 
questions practitioners need to ask.  (They may have asked themselves 
these questions and even have satisfactory answers.  But they haven't 
been presented here on BDNow as far as I can tell)
Questions like
How is self-deception avoided?
What is the price to be paid for the ease that it offers?  Moral 
questions, labelling questions and more.

Worthy a read if you are following this thread.

--
Graeme Gerrard
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Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Garuda
Yes please can we have a copy of this article.
GA
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www.bdmax.co.nz
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 Hi All,
 I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the 
 Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics.  Many 
 will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar.  He 
 puts forward some of the points I and others have made about 
 radionics and BD, but much more eloquently, and more as well.  It 
 also has a response from Hugh Lovell.  Cheryl Kemp (editor) may allow 
 the text to be reproduced here for those who don't receive Newsleaf.
 
 Brian is not directly arguing against radionics as such but is asking 
 questions practitioners need to ask.  (They may have asked themselves 
 these questions and even have satisfactory answers.  But they haven't 
 been presented here on BDNow as far as I can tell)
 Questions like
 How is self-deception avoided?
 What is the price to be paid for the ease that it offers?  Moral 
 questions, labelling questions and more.
 
 Worthy a read if you are following this thread.
 
 -- 
 Graeme Gerrard
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Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics

2003-07-17 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics



Well Graeme,
can you get permission of either Cheryl or Brian and reprint it here?
I believe both are on BDNow.

Love to see it.
The ease Q is most curious - NO pain no gain? stiquek?


L*L
Markess

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Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics


Hi All,
I just read an interesting article in the Winter issue of the 
Newsleaf - the BACA journal, by Brian Keats about radionics. Many 
will know him as the author of the Antipodean Astro calendar. He 
puts forward some of the points I and others have made about 
radionics and BD, but much more eloquently, and more as well. It 
also has a response from Hugh Lovell. Cheryl Kemp (editor) may allow 
the text to be reproduced here for those who don't receive Newsleaf.

Brian is not directly arguing against radionics as such but is asking 
questions practitioners need to ask. (They may have asked themselves 
these questions and even have satisfactory answers. But they haven't 
been presented here on BDNow as far as I can tell)
Questions like
How is self-deception avoided?
What is the price to be paid for the ease that it offers? Moral 
questions, labelling questions and more.

Worthy a read if you are following this thread.

-- 
Graeme Gerrard
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Re: Creeping Charlie aka Ground Ivy

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Pye
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  My property is being overridden with Creeping Charlie AKA Ground 
Ivy. This small round scalloped shape leaf with purple flowers spreads 
easily via runners, Plucking them from the soil usually leads to 
further sprouts from the remaining roots and any little bit left on 
soil will root.

  I would like to know if minerals lacking in the soil will stimulate 
this plant to grow or is it inevitable to just spread?

  Has anyone peppered this plant to retard growth?  If so, what moon 
and planet signs would be best.

Pull up every scrap you can regardless of further sprouts, compost it 
with the compost BD preps added, then dig it back in.

Feed/correct the copper deficiency your soil has.

Talk to your local Reiki person about increasing the energy in any water 
you irrigate the area with. Or ask me how.

Ground ivy has an inherent bio-energy charge of 65 pytrons. Pure 
rainwater has a charge of 200 py. (Tell me where you are located and I 
will dowse your water energy from here.)  Putting an energy of 
Rainwater*3 into the irrigation water should retard the ivy's growth if 
not reduce it very considerably.

Roger

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Re: Creeping Charlie aka Ground Ivy

2003-07-17 Thread Turtle Bend
Title: Re: Creeping Charlie aka Ground Ivy



Ah yes Ale Hove,
 Allen men are to call it Creeping Jenny!

It does an amazing job of clearing ale of over suspended protein and yeast and should not be over looked as a great anti fungal in urinary complaints.

10% Borax spray in the spring will greatly decrease ground ivy's vitality.
As will clearing the areas Aura complaints which I don't know how to determine with out Radionics. But I bet BD 501 will will give the area a sparkle that it, by any name, will not appreciate.

L*L
Markess





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Dear Friends,

 My property is being overridden with Creeping Charlie AKA Ground Ivy. This small round scalloped shape leaf with purple flowers spreads easily via runners, Plucking them from the soil usually leads to further sprouts from the remaining roots and any little bit left on soil will root.

 I would like to know if minerals lacking in the soil will stimulate this plant to grow or is it inevitable to just spread?

 Has anyone peppered this plant to retard growth? If so, what moon and planet signs would be best.

 Suggestions welcome.

 Allen S. Hoaglund DC

The soil must be kept in good health 
if the animal is to remain in good health.
The same is true of man.

 Paraphrase of Andre' Voisin

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Re: Creeping Charlie aka Ground Ivy

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Pye
Turtle Bend wrote:

Ah yes Ale Hove,
Allen men are to call it Creeping Jenny!
It does an amazing job of clearing ale of over suspended protein and 
yeast and should not be over looked as a great anti fungal in urinary 
complaints.

10% Borax spray in the spring will greatly decrease ground ivy's vitality.
As will clearing the areas Aura complaints which I don't know how to 
determine with out Radionics. But I bet BD 501 will will give the area 
a sparkle that it, by any name, will not appreciate.

501 will give the area a sparkle all right but it won't affect the ivy 
except to make it grow!

roger

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