200,000 + horns

2002-02-07 Thread Lloyd Charles


- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett

 The A.P. figures are always thrown around as something impressive.
 This is neither here nor there, really, but it does fall on a
 reporter to investigate their facts. It seems that this 2,000,000
 acres of BD in Australia is unsubstantiated.

Allan
I have just been informed by one of the AP disciples that the group puts
down well in excess of 200,000 horns of 500 each year. You can do the sums
on that lot. He must have some big operators out there somewhere! It seems
pretty much a secret society deal with AP in total control ( he also OWNS
the Demeter trade mark for all of Australia) Our BDFGAA (Cheryl Kemp) has
0ver 600 members - predominantly horticulture and viticulture but gaining
numbers of broadacre farmers - wheat , sheep and cattle so you would
probably be able to substantiate the 2 million ??
Incidentally the informant above says he had three or four wonderful years
then a gradual decline of productivity and has now (after about 8 years) hit
the wall, hay cuts down to almost nothing, poor animal health, no feed so
the cattle are away on someone else's place, soil colour and structure gone,
its not working anymore! We had some posts from Hugh Lovel on the list about
this last year ( or maybe further back )
Hope this is of interest
Lloyd Charles





Re: 200,000 + horns

2002-02-07 Thread Allan Balliett

I have just been informed by one of the AP disciples that the group puts
down well in excess of 200,000 horns of 500 each year. You can do the sums
on that lot. He must have some big operators out there somewhere! It seems
pretty much a secret society deal with AP in total control ( he also OWNS
the Demeter trade mark for all of Australia) Our BDFGAA (Cheryl Kemp) has
0ver 600 members - predominantly horticulture and viticulture but gaining
numbers of broadacre farmers - wheat , sheep and cattle so you would
probably be able to substantiate the 2 million ??

Thanks for reporting this, Lloyd. Unfortunately, all I can infer from 
this information is that A.P's group buries 200,000 500 horns each 
year. Inferring any thing else from that would be a reach.

I am interested in hearing how many acres Chery's group has under BD 
management.

Incidentally the informant above says he had three or four wonderful years
then a gradual decline of productivity and has now (after about 8 years) hit
the wall, hay cuts down to almost nothing, poor animal health, no feed so
the cattle are away on someone else's place, soil colour and structure gone,
its not working anymore! We had some posts from Hugh Lovel on the list about
this last year ( or maybe further back )
Hope this is of interest
Lloyd Charles

This, of course, seems like a failure of the overseers and not a 
condemnation of BD itself. I'd like to hear more about this. I 
believe Glenn used to talk about this also.

Thanks again, Lloyd,

-Allan