Re: BD system
Thanks for the overview Dave! I haven't the time to peruse Steiner or a new sub right now. I skimmed your site. Burying a horn - or spraying very dilute (energy??) preps - homeopathy for the land ? I don't know! People believe some very strange things! I've listened to Bell (with tongue in cheek) and realize how seriously some take their odd views! I enjoy speculation but never take wishful thinking seriously - I need evidence and facts.. However our human knowledge is so limited that anything is a possibility. Philosophically I *suspect* that this planet is a living entity of which we are but a small part (as are the soil microorganisms) - and I like to view each living being as an entire universe of living cells, each with it's own life force and agenda! But belief, knowing?? - uh uh! One perspective among millions of possibilities! We are like ants, trying to understand the vast grain fields they find themselves in - let alone the world! Some of the posts I've seen here blow my mind - with their convictions of deities (even to their names!) elementals, fields, forces and rituals! How can you actually believe such things? Just curious! Best I remain silent for awhile - till I get a better handle on this boards perspectives! grin Geneva Dave Robison wrote: Yeah, me too. Recognize that BD is one aspect (the agricultural part) of a very complete conceptual model developed by Steiner. Other aspects relate to Waldorf education, Eurythmy dance/music therapy, medical treatments, etc. You can take the system as an alternative conceptual model -- a way to explain our observations about the natural world. In that sense, it is neither to be proved or disproved -- the question is whether it is useful. Does it explain things? Is conceptual system consistent? Does it lead to new understandings of how plants behave? Does it lead to remedies when you observe something off? And BD does all that, once you learn the system. In that system elementals or nature spirits can be thought of a poetic means for us to imagine how life is manifesting. But elementals, prayers to the deities, moon phases? Tho I try to be open minded, my base line is skepticism! The next part of is more difficult to believe and that is that any of this stuff actually works. For that, there is a body of documented experiments. I tried to cover this stuff in a rational way on the BD Intro at www.oregonbd.org == Dave Robison -- Visit the Best Mall on the net! http://members.tripod.com/connectionjunction/
Re: BD system
Greetings Geneva: You sayhuman knowledge is so limited anything is a possibility then go on to the 'uh uh's', and weird beliefs of some on this list, Art Bell, etc. So isn.t anything a possibility? Good for you for blowing your mind - an empty mind can often create the blank slate needed for the possibilities to show up. Let me quote a friend who was an artist and visionary of the weird(other dimensions sometimes available through mind blowing). Life is not only stranger than we suppose, it is stranger than we can suppose. Terence McKenna Blessings, Barbara and Woody http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: Re: BD system Thanks for the overview Dave! I haven't the time to peruse Steiner or a new sub right now. I skimmed your site. Burying a horn - or spraying very dilute (energy??) preps - homeopathy for the land ? I don't know! People believe some very strange things! I've listened to Bell (with tongue in cheek) and realize how seriously some take their odd views! I enjoy speculation but never take wishful thinking seriously - I need evidence and facts.. However our human knowledge is so limited that anything is a possibility. Philosophically I *suspect* that this planet is a living entity of which we are but a small part (as are the soil microorganisms) - and I like to view each living being as an entire universe of living cells, each with it's own life force and agenda! But belief, knowing?? - uh uh! One perspective among millions of possibilities! We are like ants, trying to understand the vast grain fields they find themselves in - let alone the world! Some of the posts I've seen here blow my mind - with their convictions of deities (even to their names!) elementals, fields, forces and rituals! How can you actually believe such things? Just curious! Best I remain silent for awhile - till I get a better handle on this boards perspectives! grin Geneva Dave Robison wrote: Yeah, me too. Recognize that BD is one aspect (the agricultural part) of a very complete conceptual model developed by Steiner. Other aspects relate to Waldorf education, Eurythmy dance/music therapy, medical treatments, etc. You can take the system as an alternative conceptual model -- a way to explain our observations about the natural world. In that sense, it is neither to be proved or disproved -- the question is whether it is useful. Does it explain things? Is conceptual system consistent? Does it lead to new understandings of how plants behave? Does it lead to remedies when you observe something off? And BD does all that, once you learn the system. In that system elementals or nature spirits can be thought of a poetic means for us to imagine how life is manifesting. But elementals, prayers to the deities, moon phases? Tho I try to be open minded, my base line is skepticism! The next part of is more difficult to believe and that is that any of this stuff actually works. For that, there is a body of documented experiments. I tried to cover this stuff in a rational way on the BD Intro at www.oregonbd.org == Dave Robison -- Visit the Best Mall on the net! http://members.tripod.com/connectionjunction/
BD system
At 04:48 PM 12/31/01 -0800, you wrote: A NUX = heightened sense of smell = MCS.. Makes sense! Thanks Allen! Don't know much about homeopathy - but seems to work for many. I want to know why! Maybe too scientific minded - I tend to toss the mysticism - and want concrete evidence! Just flipping around sites BD (all new to me) seems riddled with nebulous assumptions and mystical elements. Am I wrong? Yeah, me too. Recognize that BD is one aspect (the agricultural part) of a very complete conceptual model developed by Steiner. Other aspects relate to Waldorf education, Eurythmy dance/music therapy, medical treatments, etc. You can take the system as an alternative conceptual model -- a way to explain our observations about the natural world. In that sense, it is neither to be proved or disproved -- the question is whether it is useful. Does it explain things? Is conceptual system consistent? Does it lead to new understandings of how plants behave? Does it lead to remedies when you observe something off? And BD does all that, once you learn the system. In that system elementals or nature spirits can be thought of a poetic means for us to imagine how life is manifesting. But elementals, prayers to the deities, moon phases? Tho I try to be open minded, my base line is skepticism! The next part of is more difficult to believe and that is that any of this stuff actually works. For that, there is a body of documented experiments. I tried to cover this stuff in a rational way on the BD Intro at www.oregonbd.org == Dave Robison
Re: BD system
In a message dated 1/2/2002 12:35:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't know much about homeopathy - but seems to work for many. I want to know why! Maybe too scientific minded - I tend to toss the mysticism - and want concrete evidence! Just flipping around sites BD (all new to me) seems riddled with nebulous assumptions and mystical elements. Am I wrong? Homeopathy works on a vibrational level, deep into the body. Simple as that. Until one gets sick, when traditional medicine falls short, to beable to treat, one seeks out other alternatives. A skeptic may say, how dont we know, its not a placebo effect. In my particular experience, with my homeopath, he doesnt pratice "classic homeopathy" (using 1 remedy); but combines using several remedies together, creating a synergistic effect. The homeopath is 3rd generation, well into there late 60's,thus, lots of mileage under his belt. I was main stream, with blinders on, til I became sick for many years ,with the attitude, I am from Missouri, show me. Lucky for me, I became sick, and met my naturalpath/homeopath. Things do work in mysterious ways. Now I am a organic farmer, trying to become BD as well. Iam sure there are many other stories out there , simular to mine. It would be ignorant of me, to do anything else in life, when I know, I can help so many others, producing healty chickens, cattle, produce, and fruits. Respectfully, Don
