Mad Cow Update
Canadian authorities are now saying that the said cow may have originated in the US with a large shipment 20,000+ pregnant cows that came to canada in 1997 before the US ban on feeding cattle remnants. Sounds like they are just trying to come up with an excuse to open up the border. peace eric ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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Title: Re: Mad cow update ect... Lloyd You wrote last week Hi Markess You've instanced Johnies disease - we have it rampant in south east aussie at the moment (sip) It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with meat protein feeding - these are sheep run on open grazing country - grass fed animals! The fact that there is a huge soil imbalance problem (calcium is under 20% CEC in many of the worst areas) has escaped the scrutiny of officialdom, some farmers in the fine wool areas are loosing over 20% of their flock annually, while others that test infected but have decent soil test numbers are not experiencing mortalities much different than uninfected. Its a transmissable disease and there is a vaccine, no one has wanted to look at the soil mineral side of this . common factors are : extremely low calcium; acidity sufficient to make available aluminium high (enough to be detrimental to pasture growth); a long 50+years history of superphosphate fertiliser (high cadmium in early days) My point understanding of dis-eases that in corporate micro-organisms possible most parasites is that they (the secondary organisms) are only trying to clean out the garbage in the primary bodies. Whether this is garbage from rendered parts or poisoned range feed is beside the point. Toxicity of food in this case is being handled by several organisms. SEs have no secondary organism involvement - only the primary! (from one of your earlier posts)The other most important Manganese soars was downed Japanese bombers during the war providing the tribes with their first metal pots pans. The metal a Alu Mng alloy ???I thought the metal used in aircraft was aluminium - magnesium alloy - manganese is used extensively in steel making to bring hardness/toughness but aircraft are mostly made of the silver metals? Seeing neither of us know first hand on this one we will have to just smile and realize we all collect the data to support our personal belief system as you pointed out with your hipperoony observation! Blessings In love Light Markess ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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I don't know much about the origins of Mad Cow, but in reading the reply that was posted, I was not clear on whether or not Purdey was saying it was the result of radioactivity? Lucia On Wed, 28 May 2003, Allan Balliett wrote: Thanks for this profound post, Markess. I remind everyone: if you want to discuss this the origins of Mad Cow and other 'wasting diseases' with Mark Purdey, please post any questions you have to the list. This discussion will be driven by your questions and comments and will not, I am told, fly into your mouth like roast pigeon. This is a great opportunity. I pray that we as a group do not miss it. -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow -- -lucia http://lrw.net - No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. -- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816 _ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\- against microsoft attachments ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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Just for clarification: I think the argument for pasture-fed ruminates has already been won in the biological farming movement. I do not think that anyone in this movement who has been paying attention thinks that it is ok to feed by-products (proteins) or grains, for that matter, to grazing animals. I agree that we live in a self-made cesspool, a world we've thrown out of balance. (Anyone sense that the recent earthquakes were brought on by the big bombs the US dropped in IRAQ?) We also know that it is a problem that is not going to be readily solved because there is so little agreement about its sources or solutions. The mad cow situation, however, presents not so much a threat to human health as it does to the future of farming, with governments given martial law-type powers to destroy herds. Purdey's research reveals that there is no need to destroy these herds and that the origins of mad cow (what do we need to say? the ACUTE origins of Mad Cow Disease...) are in inappropriate government policies (too much insecticide applied to already imbalanced herds) I'm not too optimistic that there is anything we can do about what the governments are doing in response to Mad Cow, primarily because none of us are clear on what their true motivations are. What I think is clear is that even through everything is broken, Mad Cow represents a particularly disconcerting disruption of 'health as usual' and I, for one, feel much more comfortable with Purdey's explanation than I do with the 'official' one. As for quoting Steiner, well, he also said that farms might taste better with peppers on them, didn't he? What was he getting at?? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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One of the issues that interests me is why there is a need to feed more protien and so much so that meat meal is considered as a source for ruminants with such long digestive tracts? Is it because the application of watersoluble fertilisers particulally nitrogen is reducing the protien levels in plants? My partner Gill Cole is working on some aspects of this for her Master of Science thesis right now. Lettuces have been the test plant and various mixes and matches of the preparations have been used. She has a list of other questions that I could pass on to anyone who would like to discuss them. From what I've taken from Mark Purdies dissertation we should see that copper zinc and selenium should be well supplied in the soil and the major cations should be well balanced too, plus active use of the Steiner remedies. One might also ask why the Warble fly is such a pest and would peppering be part of the remedy? Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Mad cow update ect... Just for clarification: I think the argument for pasture-fed ruminates has already been won in the biological farming movement. I do not think that anyone in this movement who has been paying attention thinks that it is ok to feed by-products (proteins) or grains, for that matter, to grazing animals. The mad cow situation, however, presents not so much a threat to human health as it does to the future of farming, with governments given martial law-type powers to destroy herds. Purdey's research reveals that there is no need to destroy these herds and that the origins of mad cow (what do we need to say? the ACUTE origins of Mad Cow Disease...) are in inappropriate government policies (too much insecticide applied to already imbalanced herds) I'm not too optimistic that there is anything we can do about what the governments are doing in response to Mad Cow, primarily because none of us are clear on what their true motivations are. What I think is clear is that even through everything is broken, Mad Cow represents a particularly disconcerting disruption of 'health as usual' and I, for one, feel much more comfortable with Purdey's explanation than I do with the 'official' one. As for quoting Steiner, well, he also said that farms might taste better with peppers on them, didn't he? What was he getting at?? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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Lettuces have been the test plant and various mixes and matches of the preparations have been used. She has a list of other questions that I could pass on to anyone who would like to discuss them. I'd like to see these! -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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One might also ask why the Warble fly is such a pest and would peppering be part of the remedy? Peter. If you follow the dollar trail, massive amounts of pesticides were applied to 'the entire british herd' at 3 times the normal application rate. It appears to me that the move to eradicate the fly was a move to put a lot of public money into someone's pockets. All the more its about money because the cover up is motivated by the damage suits that would follow if truth were known. It's scarey business to see government, big business, and the press working so well together against the interest of man and Nature. Oh, please add this to my last dozen posts: IMHO -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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On Wed, 28 May 2003, Allan Balliett wrote: (Anyone sense that the recent earthquakes were brought on by the big bombs the US dropped in IRAQ?) YES. definitly had that thought. weren't there also earthquakes after they bombed Afghanistan? ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
MAD COW UPDATE ( 2) Mark Purdey theory
My ola to the gruop , with all my respect I am a A Brazilian Organic Veterinarian , who recently finished the treining in a Biodynamic . In relation with the mad cow disease are you aware of Mark Purdey theory - High-dose exposure to systemic phosmet insecticide modifies the phosphatidylinositol anchor on the prion protein: the origins of new variant transmissible spongiform encephalopathies? and his biography and eco-detective journeys to the centre of scientific truth http://www.markpurdey.com/ Alberto ( Sorry for my spelling )
Re: MAD COW UPDATE ( 2) Mark Purdey theory
Thanks, Alberto. Mark Purdey spoke with Will Winter at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic Food and Farming Conference Oct 3-5 this past year right here in Virginia, USA. He has also been a 'guest speaker' on BD Now! on a couple of occasions. I find the article of great interest, aside from what Mark's investigations have revealed. And, I appreciate your willingness to share what you know. What do you make of this particular story, after reading it carefully? -Allan
MAD COW UPDATE
From today's Washington Post: 'Mad Cow Disease' Deemed Unlikely In Deaths of Game-Eating Hunters Hunters who feasted on their prey at a cabin in northern Wisconsin -- and later died of brain diseases -- probably did not contract mad cow disease from their meaty banquets, U.S. health officials said yesterday. Two of the men who died were diagnosed with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a human version of mad cow disease, but it was likely a naturally occurring form, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. We didn't find any association, said Vincent Hsu, an epidemiologist at the CDC's National Center for Infectious Diseases. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, or CJD, occurs naturally in about 1 in a million people. It is incurable and fatal, and produces holes in the brain that lead to dementia and death. Since the 1990s, a second form has been found in people, almost all of them in Britain, and linked to an outbreak of a related disease in cattle called bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease. Doctors have found that people can contract a variant of CJD from eating BSE-infected beef. About 130 people, mostly in Britain, have died from the new variant CJD. Elk and deer in parts of the United States contract a related disease called chronic wasting disease, and federal health officials investigated when hunters in Wisconsin developed CJD. -- Compiled from reports by the Associated Press and Reuters
