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>> >>Although Georgia has had a long string of drought years I quit using my >>irrigation equipment long ago as I have discovered how to make rain. It's >>cheap and effective and the last eight years I have had adequate rain for >>free out of the sky for all my crops. And it's not a miracle, I can teach >>people how to do it. I'm giving a rain making seminar out in Santa Fe, NM >>the 22 and 23rd of November, courtesy of CHI/Bioneers and Kenny Ausubel. >>I'm hoping farmers here in Georgia will pick up on this and organize some >>courses here. I do this for a living, and I'm totally immersed in it. >> > >Hey, Hugh, I see you're teaching a rain making course at ACRES this year, also. >For those of us who just cannot make it to SF in Nov, do you think >you'll be able to give us the rainmaking tools in your few minutes at >ACRES in December? >(Of course, this assumes that you haven't been disappeared by then.) > >-Allan Dear Allan, I'll try. Rainmaking is sure important. I'd like to see more workshops organized. I'll teach them if others will organize them. As for getting "disappeared" it is surely possible. If I disappear you can be sure what has happened. I have had trouble keeping my mouth shut when things suck the way they do. I protested the Viet Nam war too, once I got out of the Air Force. Back in '77 I had a FOIA exempt file that was a couple inches thick, presumably because the CIA has had me under surveliance for some time. Great stuff, considering I'm far from anti-social. I'm part of the solution, not part of the problem, and I wish no ill on anyone. I'd give Richard Nixon or George Bush a free meal and speak civilly to them any day. But I see what is going on, and I think it is time for those who will to wake up. Our democracy is in grave danger. The stampede to war? Very dangerous. Maybe we should save Israel. Maybe no one else can or will. I don't know this to be true, but I'm not trying to pass judgment on that or stand in its way. I'll simply continue doing what I can to make things better. What I think is so foreign to the American way is that dissent will not be tolerated. So I may get shipped to the Gulags--or worse. Better make use of me while you have me. I've already spent too many years not keeping my mouth shut. At least you will know what has happened to me. Storch wants me to keep my mouth shut. It's a good idea, only I should cower in fear in a time of crisis? There's a good chance I'd disappear even if I kept my mouth shut--depends on how scared the leadership is. Best, Hugh "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind... And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader - and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." --William Shakespeare, Julius Ceaser Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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DearStacey, You're right, of course. But how many will see that Congress's efforts to give up our rights to president Bush's agenda involves giving up our responsibilities? It a bit oblique. Anyway, I think we need to strike out in a new direction, which is why I resoundingly endorse the Green Party. I hope you will vote. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org Why, Hugh, is it that we only hear from the Green Party just before election day? I never seem to hear a peep, otherwise. I'm one of those trusting souls who believe that a wolf in a democrats clothing is somewhat better than a wolf in republican's clothing. It makes it hard for me to literally through my vote to the republicans by voting for a Green Party that doesn't seem to work hard enough to ever have a chance of winning. It's not easy to forget that had that literal dildo Ralph Nader not taken votes from Al Gore, Bush would have had to be even more blatant in the stealing of Florida. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for the Green Party and would like to see it as a dominant force in this country. For now, however, I don't get it. Do tell us more. -Allan
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Allan writes: Why, Hugh, is it that we only hear from the Green Party just before election day? I never seem to hear a peep, otherwise. I'm one of those trusting souls who believe that a wolf in a democrats clothing is somewhat better than a wolf in republican's clothing. It makes it hard for me to literally through my vote to the republicans by voting for a Green Party that doesn't seem to work hard enough to ever have a chance of winning. It's not easy to forget that had that literal dildo Ralph Nader not taken votes from Al Gore, Bush would have had to be even more blatant in the stealing of Florida. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for the Green Party and would like to see it as a dominant force in this country. For now, however, I don't get it. Do tell us more. -Allan Dear Allan, I have to agree that the republicans are far worse than the democrats. Both are very bad, however. Why not have the worst so the problems with their agenda come to light more readily? Learning what I only suspected a week ago--that the World Trade Center debacle was inspired by our own government, and that the Bali bombing was too? I just didn't encounter the evidence any sooner than this, that's all. I suspected it from the first I heard of both events, however. I can't say I have placed much trust in any of our leaders except, perhaps, Jimmy Carter. But we know the US and Israel have perfected the manufacture of what were called tactical nuclear warheads. These were also called battlefield nuclear warheads. Small bombs such as were set off under the Trade Center and in the storm drains in Bali. I know from my scientific studies it only takes 10 kilograms of plutonium to go critical. For Uranium 235 fifty kilograms are needed for critical mass, a lot more fissionable material, a much bigger bomb. When the Israelis tested their bomb in the Negev Desert the seismic spike was small enough that there was debate whether they had really tested a nuclear weapon or not. Of course nuclear weapons of this sort are the logical way for Israel to go with their nuclear program. I don't know of any other countries besides the US and Israel that have perfected this sort of weapon. As a biodynamic farmer I apply Rudlof Steiner's homeopathic agricultural remedies to my farm and I grow corn as a soil improvement crop without fertilizers. I'm harvesting carbon dioxide and nitrogen out of the air where they are abundant. My main input is my tractor and diesel fuel, and the remedies are homeopathic and applied radionically so there is no using them up to worry about. You can ask anyone who has seen it what my soil is like--it's teeming with life. Although Georgia has had a long string of drought years I quit using my irrigation equipment long ago as I have discovered how to make rain. It's cheap and effective and the last eight years I have had adequate rain for free out of the sky for all my crops. And it's not a miracle, I can teach people how to do it. I'm giving a rain making seminar out in Santa Fe, NM the 22 and 23rd of November, courtesy of CHI/Bioneers and Kenny Ausubel. I'm hoping farmers here in Georgia will pick up on this and organize some courses here. I do this for a living, and I'm totally immersed in it. Cleaning up our environment PAYS, rather than costs. It's pollution that costs. I get all my nitrogen fertilizer out of the atmosphere for FREE. It's biological and abundant. Other farmers are paying through the nose for it, and in the process destroying their soils and the environment in general. Out in the sandhills of Nebraska the nitrate contamination of the aquifer is so bad farmers sometimes joke they don't use fertilizer any more--they irrigate. Of course, they still have to pump from the aquifer, which is not as cheap and nowhere near as good for crops as making rain. For me doom is boom, and if it means letting republicans get in office everywhere so the bankruptcy of their agenda comes into full view? I'm for it. Elect the bastards. But I'm not wasting my vote on them. I'm voting GREEN at every opportunity. GREEN is where the real difference lies. And when GREENS get in office we can make a REAL difference since good environmental policy and good government is cheap and efficient. It's the only thing that makes sense. I'll admit to voting for democrats too. I'm especially itchy to vote for Max Cleland, our Georgia dem senator who voted against Bush's war. They are out to get him--smear tactics and real underhanded stuff like putting his phone numbers in their smear ads telling people to call him and protest his stance on a certain education bill so his phones will be tied up. There really aren't many Greens to vote for, but we need votes for Greens badly so we reach critical mass to gain automatic ballot access. Right now you have to vote Green by write-in. Not good. Well, enough said. Best, Hugh Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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I'll admit to voting for democrats too. I'm especially itchy to vote for Max Cleland, our Georgia dem senator who voted against Bush's war. They are out to get him--smear tactics and real underhanded stuff like putting his phone numbers in their smear ads telling people to call him and protest his stance on a certain education bill so his phones will be tied up. There really aren't many Greens to vote for, but we need votes for Greens badly so we reach critical mass to gain automatic ballot access. Right now you have to vote Green by write-in. Not good. Well, enough said. How far will they--ulimately--go to keep a good DFL'er from being re-elected? Susan
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In my poly sci and legal theory classes, the term right was considered to implicitly assign a duty, as by the very nature of what a right is. You raise good points. Is our current political system up to the tasks? When the UN was formed Mahatma Ghandi was asked to contribute to the writing of a BILL of RIGHTS for humanity. He flatly refused, saying that what was need was not a Bill of Rights but a Bill of Responsibilities. Why? Because a Bill of Rights makes people the victims of their perpetrators, while a Bill of Responsibilities makes everyone the policemen of themselves. We can know, especially now that the nuclear truths of 9/11 and the Bali bombing are revealed, that our existing political system has failed. It has not done the job FOR us that we needed to do. We are in the beginnings of a nuclear war with tactical nuclear weapons. We have to ask, How responsible is that? Very? Maybe? Not at all? I'm sure different people will have different opinions. Many years ago an Indian scientist, Dr. Ravi Batra, stated what he called the rule of Cognitive Dissonance. He said, The mind involuntarily rejects information that is contrary to its beliefs. It is automatic, without thought. Inside Germany people believed Hitler was a genius and their savior right up until the end of the war. Everyone outside knew otherwise. We are seeing a similar phenomenon inside America today. People refuse to believe their government is not their friend. Most of them are my age or older, as I am amongst the last of the baby boomers. The old advice that all is illusion and one must see the world with new eyes, is right on. How we will restore the fisheries of the world is a world problem, as you point out. I happen to like eating fish, so I'm very concerned. I grew up near the coast of Louisiana where the fishing was great and the pollution even better. I'm looking at how to grow fresh water prawns on my farm in north Georgia, but that's a personal solution only. Global solutions may grow out of personal solutions, since personal solutions pave the way. If I stop buying fish and start growing some alternative, the question is half addressed. The other half? The global half? It is times like these when the system comes down around our ears that everyone is piqued to question, and the opportunities for growth occur. = @@@ Stacey Elin Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zip.to/anaserene @@@ __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
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Oh, yes, absolutely. I am actually starting a local green party chapter here in the Northern Berkshires area of MA. If anyone on this list is in the area, and interested, please contact me. You're right, of course. But how many will see that Congress's efforts to give up our rights to president Bush's agenda involves giving up our responsibilities? It a bit oblique. Anyway, I think we need to strike out in a new direction, which is why I resoundingly endorse the Green Party. I hope you will vote. = @@@ Stacey Elin Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zip.to/anaserene @@@ __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
