Re: [beagleboard] webrequest with thread.

2015-02-14 Thread John Syn

From:  ber...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, February 13, 2015 at 12:14 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] webrequest with thread.

 i have a database table that holds the url information and i read line by line
 and work this with thread for doing web request. While programm is runinng if
 someone add an url to my database table i want to check new record was added.
 If it is , i want to create new thread. How can i do that in c#? Can you give
 me some algorithm idea? And May be some sample code.
If you use Nodejs for your webserver, you don¹t need to use threads.

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Starting processes (via bash script?) automatically at boot?

2015-02-07 Thread John Syn

From:  Teiresias salaugh...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 5:35 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Starting processes (via bash script?)
automatically at boot?

 So does systemd deprecate the init.d stuff?  Namely the things described here:
 
 https://www.debian-administration.org/article/28/Making_scripts_run_at_boot_ti
 me_with_Debian
 
Yes. Most of the main Linux distributions are migrating to systemd which
replaces the old SysV init. Systemd has the benefit of starting
drivers/services in parallel based on dependencies and that is why it boots
much faster than SysV init.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 9:58:16 PM UTC-5, john3909 wrote:
 
 From:  Teiresias salau...@gmail.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Friday, February 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Starting processes (via bash script?) automatically
 at boot?
 
 I'm extremely new to linux programming (as a matter of fact to any OS
 programming, I'm more used to to-the-metal Atmel, etc. programming). A few
 of my other posts probably indicate this, haha.
 
 Luckily, the application I'm trying to develop doesn't look like it will
 require changing pin muxing any longer (which I still can't quite wrap my
 head around) and instead I'll just use the available i2c and UART1 and UART2
 (which I know how to enable easily by editing uEnv.txt).
 
 However, my system needs to start and then just automatically run some
 processes when the system boots.  These are all compiled c-code.  I need to
 run an initialization program that sets up some shared memory locations, and
 then start a number of processes that run concurrently using these shared
 memory resources and interface with the i2c and UART interfaces.
 
 I've got the code figured out to do most of this, but I'm still a bit
 unclear on how to actually get this to run automatically at boot.  Is there
 some way to just get a bash script to execute at boot where I can simply
 call my process names from there?
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
 Everything you need will be done by systemd, so search google for systemd.
 
 Regards,
 John
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Re: [beagleboard] a couple questions about device trees and ranges

2015-02-07 Thread John Syn

On 2/7/15, 2:27 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, John Syn wrote:


 On 2/6/15, 11:50 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

 
   crawling my way through the DTS files for the BBB and i ran across
 this in am33xx.dtsi:
 
 epwmss1: epwmss@48302000 {
 compatible = ti,am33xx-pwmss;
 reg = 0x48302000 0x10;
 ti,hwmods = epwmss1;
 #address-cells = 1;
 #size-cells = 1;
 status = disabled;
 ranges = 0x48302100 0x48302100 0x80   /* ECAP
*/
   0x48302180 0x48302180 0x80   /* EQEP
*/
   0x48302200 0x48302200 0x80; /*
EHRPWM
 */
 
 ecap1: ecap@48302100 {
 compatible = ti,am33xx-ecap;
 #pwm-cells = 3;
 reg = 0x48302100 0x80;
 interrupts = 47;
 interrupt-names = ecap1;
 ti,hwmods = ecap1;
 status = disabled;
 };
 
 ehrpwm1: ehrpwm@48302200 {
 compatible = ti,am33xx-ehrpwm;
 #pwm-cells = 3;
 reg = 0x48302200 0x80;
 ti,hwmods = ehrpwm1;
 status = disabled;
 };
 };
 
   first question ... should there be a node definition for eqep?
 after all, the second triplet in ranges is commented with EQEP,
 but there is no associated child node for that. i would have expected
 one.
 
   also, based on my understanding of ranges, the above definition
 seems to be simply mapping the child address space directly back to
 the parent address space; i.e., no translation is required. so what is
 the point? wouldn't the same thing be achieved with a simple:
 
   ranges;
 
 which specifies that the two address spaces are identical and no
 address translation is required?
 
   or does the above also restrict the mapping to specifically the
 ranges listed there?
 Hi Robert,

 Better to ask this question on the devicetree mailing list:
 Send e-mail to majord...@vger.kernel.org with subscribe devicetree in
the
 body.

  except this isn't a general device tree question, it's specific to
something related to the DT on a BBB, which is why i thought it would
be more appropriate here. and the answer(s) might be helpful to other
BBB users who are curious about device tree stuff as well.

  i'm probably going to have a couple more questions about device
trees related specifically to the BBB -- anyone uninterested is
welcome to ignore them.
I wasn¹t being critical, I was only trying to be helpful. There are
several people on the DeviceTree mailing list that use BBB, but
specifically, Pantelis Antoniou who wrote the cape manager and later the
devicetree overlay is someone who could answer your question and I¹m not
sure if he monitors this mailing list.

Regards,
John

rday

p.s. i'm trying to clarify a few things for the sake of writing up a
DT tutorial for a couple of my courses. so i want to make sure i
understand it before trying to explain it. :-)

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Re: [beagleboard] a couple questions about device trees and ranges

2015-02-06 Thread John Syn

On 2/6/15, 11:50 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:


  crawling my way through the DTS files for the BBB and i ran across
this in am33xx.dtsi:

epwmss1: epwmss@48302000 {
compatible = ti,am33xx-pwmss;
reg = 0x48302000 0x10;
ti,hwmods = epwmss1;
#address-cells = 1;
#size-cells = 1;
status = disabled;
ranges = 0x48302100 0x48302100 0x80   /* ECAP */
  0x48302180 0x48302180 0x80   /* EQEP */
  0x48302200 0x48302200 0x80; /* EHRPWM
*/

ecap1: ecap@48302100 {
compatible = ti,am33xx-ecap;
#pwm-cells = 3;
reg = 0x48302100 0x80;
interrupts = 47;
interrupt-names = ecap1;
ti,hwmods = ecap1;
status = disabled;
};

ehrpwm1: ehrpwm@48302200 {
compatible = ti,am33xx-ehrpwm;
#pwm-cells = 3;
reg = 0x48302200 0x80;
ti,hwmods = ehrpwm1;
status = disabled;
};
};

  first question ... should there be a node definition for eqep?
after all, the second triplet in ranges is commented with EQEP,
but there is no associated child node for that. i would have expected
one.

  also, based on my understanding of ranges, the above definition
seems to be simply mapping the child address space directly back to
the parent address space; i.e., no translation is required. so what is
the point? wouldn't the same thing be achieved with a simple:

  ranges;

which specifies that the two address spaces are identical and no
address translation is required?

  or does the above also restrict the mapping to specifically the
ranges listed there?
Hi Robert,

Better to ask this question on the devicetree mailing list:
Send e-mail to majord...@vger.kernel.org with subscribe devicetree in the
body. 

Regards,
John

rday

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Re: [beagleboard] Starting processes (via bash script?) automatically at boot?

2015-02-06 Thread John Syn

From:  Teiresias salaugh...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, February 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Starting processes (via bash script?) automatically
at boot?

 I'm extremely new to linux programming (as a matter of fact to any OS
 programming, I'm more used to to-the-metal Atmel, etc. programming). A few of
 my other posts probably indicate this, haha.
 
 Luckily, the application I'm trying to develop doesn't look like it will
 require changing pin muxing any longer (which I still can't quite wrap my head
 around) and instead I'll just use the available i2c and UART1 and UART2 (which
 I know how to enable easily by editing uEnv.txt).
 
 However, my system needs to start and then just automatically run some
 processes when the system boots.  These are all compiled c-code.  I need to
 run an initialization program that sets up some shared memory locations, and
 then start a number of processes that run concurrently using these shared
 memory resources and interface with the i2c and UART interfaces.
 
 I've got the code figured out to do most of this, but I'm still a bit unclear
 on how to actually get this to run automatically at boot.  Is there some way
 to just get a bash script to execute at boot where I can simply call my
 process names from there?
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
Everything you need will be done by systemd, so search google for systemd.

Regards,
John
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Re: [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie

2015-02-05 Thread John Syn

From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
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Date:  Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 10:08 PM
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Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie

  
 
 I am. 
 But I would prefer the integration of Putty, which also has SSH.
 Or I would like to, hence my other post J
From your Debian terminal window, simply issue the command ssh root@ip
address of your BBB

Regards,
John
  
 
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 Behalf Of John Syn
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 10:37 PM
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 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie
  
 
  
 
 From: William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 7:11 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie
 
  
 
 Hello all;
  
 I have just installed Debian Jessie (8) on an x86 machine.
 When I went to setup Putty as I did on my Windows Xp machine there was no way
 to
 Set flow control to ³none² my only options were XON/XOFF and CTS/RTS.
 Does anyone know what is wrong here ?
 
 Why don¹t you use minicom?
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 John
 
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie

2015-02-05 Thread John Syn

From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 7:11 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Putty serial setup with Debian Jessie

 Hello all;
  
 I have just installed Debian Jessie (8) on an x86 machine.
 When I went to setup Putty as I did on my Windows Xp machine there was no way
 to
 Set flow control to ³none² my only options were XON/XOFF and CTS/RTS.
 Does anyone know what is wrong here ?
Why don¹t you use minicom?

Regards,
John
  
 Bill
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could
 do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
 Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
 http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/bill-pretty/2b/b07/602
  
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black boot order

2015-02-05 Thread John Syn

On 2/5/15, 12:12 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:

 Am 05.02.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Sherman Boyd:
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   MLO
 
 
  Ok, so no uEnv.txt and it will boot to eMMC.  Thanks.

 I'll still have a picture online which might explain what happens:

 http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg

  i'm not sure that diagram is complete ... as i recall from a
previous edification from RCN, the MLO and u-boot.img files might
exist *outside* of a partition, at specific offsets on the SD card
(128K and 384K, respectively, if memory serves). and those
possibilities don't seem to be mentioned in your diagram.
You are correct, but the physical location of MLO and u-boot doesn¹t
change the boot sequence. Alex, nice work.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black boot order

2015-02-05 Thread John Syn

From:  Sherman Boyd sherman.b...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 11:14 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Beaglebone Black boot order

 I thought the boot order was: eMMC, uSD, UART0, USB.  But it seems to boot
 from uSD as long as one is present, S2 pressed or not.  What's going on here?
BBB uses MLO and u-boot from eMMC and then loads uEnv.txt file from the
SDCard and then boots the kernel from the SDCard. If you press the boot
button, then MLO and u-boot on the SDCard are used.

Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] olsr working but cannot get information from them.

2015-02-04 Thread John Syn

From:  SHAO MIN shaomin1...@gmail.com
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Date:  Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 12:56 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] olsr working but cannot get information from them.

 
 
 down votfavorite 
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/531684/olsr-not-communicating-in-two-hops#
 I was trying to set mesh network using olsr protocol.
  node1 node2-ode3
 (olsrd)  adhoc(olsrd)   adhoc(olsrd)
 (laptop)   (BeagleBone1)  (Beaglebone2)
 All the nodes are in the same adhoc network and running olsrd . In node 1
 ,when i run the olsrd it able to ping to node 2 and node 3. However, when i
 want to get the sensor data from node 2 to node 1 it's doesn't work. How can i
 do that?Thank you in advance
My guess is the route tables have been setup on Node1, but Node2 route
tables have yet to be setup.

Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Resources for a new user

2015-02-02 Thread John Syn

From:  rjc2827 bobthecass...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Monday, February 2, 2015 at 5:00 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Resources for a new user

 I'm a new user.  Reading this board has brought me a wealth of useful
 information, but I could use a similar resource that can help me with the more
 basic pieces such as general Linux stuff, utilities like make, compiling, and
 generally finding my way around.  I've put PuTTY on my Windows Vista PC and am
 working fairly well from the shell command line, and have done some controlled
 LED pulsing using Python code that I wrote under Cloud 9, but am still short
 of building and running effective shell scripts, and stand-alone programs of
 my own.  I have two requests ...
 
 1)  Can you offer a link (or links) that might take me to site suitable for a
 computer programming literate (but Linux naive) user?
 
 2)  I've signed up for  local Introduction to Linux course that will be
 based on running a Mint distro (not on a BBB or equivalent), under its Mate
 GUI.  I would like to know if I can get (or if I already have without knowing
 it), a GUI for Debian that I can use on the BBB, and in general terms, how I
 would get it installed.  It's not even clear to me at this point, whether or
 not such a GUI would actually be running on my PC or on the BBB.  My current
 set up is with my PC providing power and interface to the BBB with the simple
 USB cable that came with my BBB.  If using a GUI would be sensitive to whether
 I'm running a 3.8.x vs 3.14.x core (or whatever), now might be the best time
 to make a comment on that too.
This book covers just about everything you will need.

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-BeagleBone-Techniques-Building-Embedded/dp/1
118935128/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1422929780sr=8-1keywords=Beagleboneblack
pebp=1422929783726peasin=1118935128

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks
 Bob
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: OSX + Baeglebone = Nightmare

2015-02-02 Thread John Syn

From:  SimGQ garymquig...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Monday, February 2, 2015 at 5:49 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Re: OSX + Baeglebone = Nightmare

 So, plugging the BBB into a Mac that was upgraded from 10.9 to 10.10 worked...
 The plot thickens.
 
 I have pulled IOUSBFamily.kext from this machine, I will compare the versions
 of the kexts inside to that of the machine that won't boot the BBB,
 specifically AppleUSBXHCI.kext and AppleUSBFTDI.kext to see what Apple have
 updated.
 
 Will report back later.
Why don¹t you use a ethernet switch/hub and do all this over ethernet? You
can use ssh/sftp/nfs for all your development and it works out of the box.

Regards,
John
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: OSX + Baeglebone = Nightmare

2015-02-01 Thread John Syn

From:  SimuGQ garymquig...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 4:54 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: OSX + Baeglebone = Nightmare

 Good God is that it?
 
 Seriously, you guys are selling an 'OSX compatible product?
 
 What % users are OSX? What profit margin have you made there? Sell product,
 does't work, no support = 100% user profit. Host forum, post try this
 solutions, stay calm.
 
 I give up.
 
 Beaglebone is a joke until these drivers are sorted.
Any serious developer would not have updated to 10.10 for at least a year to
ensure that all third party drivers are functional. It is your fault for
updating to Yosemite and that is why you are wasting your time; nothing to
do with BBB. In any case, we are all volunteers and donate our time to help
others. We don¹t get paid, so stop demanding that we get something fixed. If
you listen to Robert¹s advice, he will help you get up and running, but with
your attitude, I don¹t know why he bothers. The guy is a saint.

Regards,
John
 
 On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 12:47:43 AM UTC, RobertCNelson wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:36 PM, SimuGQ garymq...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  Well what are we doing wrong?
 
 Well, apple pushed out OS X 10.10, and the 3rd party driver writers
 still need to catch up.
 
 We use kernel.org http://kernel.org 's g_multi driver as a cdc ether/serial
 and usb flash 
 drive combination when users plug in the usb-slave port.
 
 On Linux this pretty much works out of the box.
 
 On Windows, it works if you install the signed driver*. Luckily the
 usb-flash drive just works without drivers which allows us to easily
 give users the dirvers. Linux developers provide the *.inf:
 https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Document
 ation/usb/linux.inf
  The rest is built-in to windows...
 
 On Mac, we have nothing, but the work of Joshua Wise's horndis driver:
 http://joshuawise.com/horndis
 
 It looks like we have more testing/bug reporting we need to forward Joshua..
 
 Regards, 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Control Power LED?

2015-01-30 Thread John Syn

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Date:  Friday, January 30, 2015 at 2:05 PM
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Subject:  [beagleboard] Control Power LED?

 Is it possible to control the Power light like we control the other 4 lights
 on the Beaglebone black?  I'd like to shut it off.
No, it is connected directly to the VDD_3V3AUX rail.

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Re: [beagleboard] Really, how do I get started?

2015-01-29 Thread John Syn

From:  Phil Schmidt phil.s@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:05 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Really, how do I get started?

 I just got a BeagleBone Black, and I've been fumbling around the documentation
 for almost 3 days, and still don't feel I know how to get started doing what I
 want to do
 
 Goal: I want to create some hard-real-time PRU functionality, create a
 less-hard-real-time executive running under Linux, and link the two together,
 so that I can control/monitor the functionality at the PRU level via ethernet.
 
 My background: I have many years of down-to-the-metal embedded systems
 development, using no RTOS or an embedded RTOS. I use Windows, and I use
 desktop Linux and use the terminal when I need to, but I don't have deep
 knowledge of how Linux works.
 
 Where I've landed thus far: I have installed the TI Code Composer Studio on
 Windows - and it looks reasonable enough. I have a TI AM335x SDK installed on
 a Linux PC, and have a micro-SD with the SDK on it, but have not installed it
 on the BBB. I have read tons of documentation, but nothing that walks a newbie
 through the development and deployment process.
 
 Sticking points and questions:
 * I have a gaping hole in my knowledge about embedded Linux, and how to
 develop and deploy applications to it. Are there any good online resources to
 help me along with this? Books? Other suggestions?
 * I am going down the path of installing the TI SDK, but I don't even know if
 this is the right thing to do. How do I evaluate my options in the context of
 my objectives?
 * Can I do PRU development and make it run on and with the Debian distro that
 is factory installed on the BBB?
 I could ask lots more questions, but I think this provides a good picture of
 where I'm at with all this. Can anyone offer some guidance?
Given your limited knowledge of embedded Linux, I would recommend buying
this book because it covers everything you have asked for above:

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-BeagleBone-Techniques-Building-Embedded/dp/1
118935128/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1422565808sr=8-1keywords=Beagleboneblack
pebp=1422565811391peasin=1118935128

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks!
 Phil
 
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Re: [beagleboard] for people teaching embedded linux classes, a suggestion ...

2015-01-25 Thread John Syn

On 1/25/15, 1:50 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, John Syn wrote:


 On 1/25/15, 1:33 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:

 
   still on the subject of filling out my wiki page here:
 
 http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/RCN_eewiki_BBB_page
 
 using the theme of minimal steps, each step being testable before
 going on to the next step, first, if anyone wants to comment on what's
 already there and suggest corrections, bring it on.
 
   and i was pondering what would be the very next step in the
 process and realized, even before getting into building and letting
 u-boot boot the kernel, the next teeny step would be to format the
 rest of the card, then install *nothing* but /boot/uEnv.txt in the new
 ext4 filesystem where u-boot would find it.
 
   does that make sense? it's the smallest unit of progress i can think
 of that would still have an effect on the boot process. *then* the
 kernel and the dtb ...
 Hi Robert,

 I understand what you are attempting to do, but won¹t it be more
 helpful if you explained to your students how to interpret the
 console output. For example if there is no MLO, you will see
 ³CC² printed. If it cannot find a valid u-boot or DTB file. What
 happens when there is no kernel magic number. What happens when
 there is no valid rootfs, etc. Just a thought.

  all good points, but at the moment, i'm just trying to put together
something *very* quick and dirty for this week. and it's not meant to
be read standalone, it's meant to be accompanied by, well, me
standing up at the front walking people through it.

  also, if i try to cover every conceivable detail and contingency,
then it's turning into a book, and that's *exactly* what i'm trying to
avoid.
Hi Robert,

You may be correct, but here is a way I think that might simplify things.
Working backwards from a working system might be a good approach. Start
with a working system and update uEnv.txt file to make the console output
more verbose, and then after a complete boot, copy that console output.
Break the rootfs and then make a copy of that console output. Next, break
the kernel and make a copy of that console output. Next, remove the DTB
file and record the console output. Next break u-boot and record the
console output. Next break MLO.

If your students study these console outputs, they will see a pattern and
will have a better understanding of what to look for in the future. This
seems to work for me, but you are the Prof, so I defer to you if this will
help your students.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] for people teaching embedded linux classes, a suggestion ...

2015-01-25 Thread John Syn

On 1/25/15, 1:33 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:


  still on the subject of filling out my wiki page here:

http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/RCN_eewiki_BBB_page

using the theme of minimal steps, each step being testable before
going on to the next step, first, if anyone wants to comment on what's
already there and suggest corrections, bring it on.

  and i was pondering what would be the very next step in the
process and realized, even before getting into building and letting
u-boot boot the kernel, the next teeny step would be to format the
rest of the card, then install *nothing* but /boot/uEnv.txt in the new
ext4 filesystem where u-boot would find it.

  does that make sense? it's the smallest unit of progress i can think
of that would still have an effect on the boot process. *then* the
kernel and the dtb ...
Hi Robert,

I understand what you are attempting to do, but won¹t it be more helpful
if you explained to your students how to interpret the console output. For
example if there is no MLO, you will see ³CC² printed. If it cannot
find a valid u-boot or DTB file. What happens when there is no kernel
magic number. What happens when there is no valid rootfs, etc. Just a
thought. 

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] BBB does not recognize usb3 seagate 5TB drive

2015-01-24 Thread John Syn

From:  wjr w...@ksu.edu
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 5:42 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] BBB does not recognize usb3 seagate 5TB drive

 I'm wanting to use a BBB as a backup server for a cloud-based mysqld. I'm
 running ubuntu 13.10 and I got a Seagate 5TB usb3 ntfs expansion drive. I'm
 using it with my desktop that runs centos and everything's OK. But when I
 tried moving the drive to the BBB, it simply does not recognize it, i.e. ls
 /dev shows no difference before and after I plug it in. I'm so used to things
 like this just working that I'm really not sure where to start.
After you insert your drive, what errors do you see when you run the command
dmesg?

Regards,
John
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Re: [beagleboard] Fast ADC using PRU to bitbang SPI

2015-01-24 Thread John Syn

From:  touste baptiste.pier...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 7:24 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Fast ADC using PRU to bitbang SPI

 Hi John, thanks for your suggestion. What frequency can I expect using this
 method? I need at least a 1MSPS sampling rate.
 Also, do you have any code example of this? I tried googling it but I didn't
 find what I was looking for.
Theoretically you should be able to run at 3MSPS. Regarding sample code,
look at Linux Kernel source under drivers/staging/iio. Look for any driver
that uses SPI. What you need to do is setup SPI transfer in large blocks so
that DMA will be used. I also recommend that you post your question of
e2e.ti.com as TI might have some example code that will help.

Alternatively, you could always use a I2S ADC and then use the MCASP to
stream the samples. It is also possible to convert the SPI signal format to
I2S so that you can use the ADS7883 with MCASP. What you do is write a SPDIF
style codec and then use the ALSA (Linux Audio) framework to capture your
samples. Here is an example of doing this for a DAC, but just do a capture
version for ADC. 

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Sitara_Linux_SDK_Audio_DAC_Example

Regards,
John
 
 Many thanks
 
 On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 12:52:29 AM UTC, john3909 wrote:
 Why don¹t you use SPI with DMA? DMA is automatically used when the size of
 transfer exceeds 160 bytes. You would have to create a kernel driver because
 SPIDEV has too much overhead.  The SPI interface can transfer up to 48MHz
 clock, which is the max clock of the device you want to use.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 From:  touste baptiste...@gmail.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Friday, January 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Fast ADC using PRU to bitbang SPI
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I would like to know if someone here has already tried bitbanging SPI with
 the PRU units? 
 
 I have a 12bit ADC (TI ADS7883) which takes a clock signal and outputs 12
 bits of data, and I would like to use the PRU to achieve high sampling rate.
 
 See http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ads7883.pdf for the ADC documentation
 with the interface timing diagram.
 
 Basically, the PRU program would do the following (assuming a cycle time of
 5ns and one cycle for each line of the loop):
 
 - Initiate 3 GPIO channels (2 outputs: SCLK and CS, 1 input: SDO)
 - Allocate memory (a lot! I'd like to capture millions of samples)
 Loop for N samples:
 - Pull CS high
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 2 cycles
 - Pull CS low (initiate output)
 - Wait 2 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (first bit)
 - Store it somewhere
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (2nd bit)
 - Store it somewhere
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (3rd bit)
 - Store it somewhere  ... and so on until 12th bit
 - Wait 60ns (acquisition time) while always pulling CLK high and low every 6
 cycles
 End of loop
 
 
 The problem is that I have never programmed in assembly code. I have tried
 looking at examples but have a really hard time understanding the simplest
 commands (ex: what is a simple MOV r3, 17 doing?).
 
 I'd like to have a thoroughly commented, simple example to start if
 possible. 
 
 Memory issues are also a big problem. How can I store all the captured data
 so that it is fast and doesn't overflow the PRU memory?
 
 Many thanks for your help!
 
 Touste
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Re: [beagleboard] Fast ADC using PRU to bitbang SPI

2015-01-23 Thread John Syn
Why don¹t you use SPI with DMA? DMA is automatically used when the size of
transfer exceeds 160 bytes. You would have to create a kernel driver because
SPIDEV has too much overhead.  The SPI interface can transfer up to 48MHz
clock, which is the max clock of the device you want to use.

Regards,
John

From:  touste baptiste.pier...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, January 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Fast ADC using PRU to bitbang SPI

 Hi guys,
 
 I would like to know if someone here has already tried bitbanging SPI with the
 PRU units? 
 
 I have a 12bit ADC (TI ADS7883) which takes a clock signal and outputs 12 bits
 of data, and I would like to use the PRU to achieve high sampling rate.
 
 See http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ads7883.pdf for the ADC documentation
 with the interface timing diagram.
 
 Basically, the PRU program would do the following (assuming a cycle time of
 5ns and one cycle for each line of the loop):
 
 - Initiate 3 GPIO channels (2 outputs: SCLK and CS, 1 input: SDO)
 - Allocate memory (a lot! I'd like to capture millions of samples)
 Loop for N samples:
 - Pull CS high
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 2 cycles
 - Pull CS low (initiate output)
 - Wait 2 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (first bit)
 - Store it somewhere
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (2nd bit)
 - Store it somewhere
 - Wait 3 cycles
 - Pull SCLK high
 - Wait 5 cycles
 - Pull SCLK low
 - Read SDO (3rd bit)
 - Store it somewhere  ... and so on until 12th bit
 - Wait 60ns (acquisition time) while always pulling CLK high and low every 6
 cycles
 End of loop
 
 
 The problem is that I have never programmed in assembly code. I have tried
 looking at examples but have a really hard time understanding the simplest
 commands (ex: what is a simple MOV r3, 17 doing?).
 
 I'd like to have a thoroughly commented, simple example to start if possible.
 
 Memory issues are also a big problem. How can I store all the captured data so
 that it is fast and doesn't overflow the PRU memory?
 
 Many thanks for your help!
 
 Touste
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Re: [beagleboard] Same wire going to adc and comparator kills interrupts

2015-01-20 Thread John Syn

On 1/19/15, 9:41 PM, maxmike maxmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 6:23:49 PM UTC-8, john3909 wrote:
 From:  maxmike maxmi...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:10 PM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com beagl...@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Same wire going to adc and comparator kills
interrupts
 
 
 
 I have the output of an op amp go directly to the BBB adc and the
values are read correctly.
 But, the same wire is going to a comparator to generate interrupts.
 It looks like the comparator is not firing all the way to ground
because of the adc drag.
 I thought of placing a 1K resistor from the adc input to ground but
that does nothing.
 Anything higher is going to bother the adc. I'm stumped.
 Well, it depends on the opamp. Some opamps are not able to drive all
the way to 0V, but as long as it goes below the logic low for your I/O
input, it shouldn¹t matter. If you really want an opamp that goes to
zero, choose one that is capable to operating rail to rail. Also, the
opamp feedback circuit is important because you are going to want some
hysteresis or your GPIO input might see some noise close to the trigger
point. 
 
 
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The lmv762 comparatorworks 100% if I sever its input from the adc - it's
only when the adc is tied to it that it does't go to ground at the output.
Well, the datasheet shows VO has a worse case voltage range from 250mv to
VCC-0.35v. Is this consistent with your measurements?

Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Same wire going to adc and comparator kills interrupts

2015-01-19 Thread John Syn

From:  maxmike maxmikes...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Monday, January 19, 2015 at 5:10 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Same wire going to adc and comparator kills
interrupts

 I have the output of an op amp go directly to the BBB adc and the values are
 read correctly.
 But, the same wire is going to a comparator to generate interrupts.
 It looks like the comparator is not firing all the way to ground because of
 the adc drag.
 I thought of placing a 1K resistor from the adc input to ground but that does
 nothing.
 Anything higher is going to bother the adc. I'm stumped.
Well, it depends on the opamp. Some opamps are not able to drive all the way
to 0V, but as long as it goes below the logic low for your I/O input, it
shouldn¹t matter. If you really want an opamp that goes to zero, choose one
that is capable to operating rail to rail. Also, the opamp feedback circuit
is important because you are going to want some hysteresis or your GPIO
input might see some noise close to the trigger point.

Regards,
John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

2015-01-14 Thread John Syn

From:  JAY KOTHARI jaikothar...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:17 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

 bmp085 sensor works on 3.3v volt. I have internally pulled up the pin and I
 can see resistor connected in the harware diagram of bmp085.
 Still I connect external resistor?
The internal resistors don¹t provide enough current. You will still need
external resistors and I suggest 4k7.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Thursday, 15 January 2015 09:56:46 UTC+5:30, liyaoshi  wrote:
 Can you try connect with external 5V supply ?
 BTW, suggest R2 and R3 connect with 10k resister ,
 
 
 2015-01-15 12:14 GMT+08:00 JAY KOTHARI jaikot...@gmail.com javascript: :
 Hello,
   I am using bmp085 sensor with uext connection with beaglebone black. I
 have made change in device tree of BBB. I have made i2c1(pin 17 and 18) as
 input pin and pulled up internally and set it to mode two. I have also set
 compatible property in device tree to load module of bmp085.
  After looking into hardware design manual of bmp085 I interface with
 beaglebone black.I connected four wire (vdd(pin3),gnd(pin1),sda(pin17) and
 scl(pin18)) and kept other unconnected.
 
 https://www.olimex.com/Products/Modules/Sensors/MOD-BMP085/resources/MOD-BMP
 085_sch.pdf
 
When I boot my kernel my bmp085 module is loaded automatically and I am
 getting entry in /dev of i2c1
 
 Problem:
 When I connect BBB with bmp085 my kernel hangs or BBB does not start at
 allWhat may be the problem
Note:  
I am not using 5v supply.
  
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Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

2015-01-14 Thread John Syn

From:  JAY KOTHARI jaikothar...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:56 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

 I belive that they may not provide required current. But would it cause by BBB
 not to power on? 
 
 I will connect external resistor with sda1 and scl1 pins of BBB which are
 already pulled up. Where should I connect the other leg of these resistor.
VDD_3V3B
 
 Regard 
 Jay Kothari
 
 On Thursday, 15 January 2015 11:21:22 UTC+5:30, john3909  wrote:
 
 From:  JAY KOTHARI jaikot...@gmail.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:17 PM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB
 
 bmp085 sensor works on 3.3v volt. I have internally pulled up the pin and I
 can see resistor connected in the harware diagram of bmp085.
 Still I connect external resistor?
 The internal resistors don¹t provide enough current. You will still need
 external resistors and I suggest 4k7.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 On Thursday, 15 January 2015 09:56:46 UTC+5:30, liyaoshi  wrote:
 Can you try connect with external 5V supply ?
 BTW, suggest R2 and R3 connect with 10k resister ,
 
 
 2015-01-15 12:14 GMT+08:00 JAY KOTHARI jaikot...@gmail.com:
 Hello,
   I am using bmp085 sensor with uext connection with beaglebone black.
 I have made change in device tree of BBB. I have made i2c1(pin 17 and 18)
 as input pin and pulled up internally and set it to mode two. I have also
 set compatible property in device tree to load module of bmp085.
  After looking into hardware design manual of bmp085 I interface with
 beaglebone black.I connected four wire (vdd(pin3),gnd(pin1),sda(pin17) and
 scl(pin18)) and kept other unconnected.
 
 https://www.olimex.com/Products/Modules/Sensors/MOD-BMP085/resources/MOD-B
 MP085_sch.pdf
 
When I boot my kernel my bmp085 module is loaded automatically and I am
 getting entry in /dev of i2c1
 
 Problem:
 When I connect BBB with bmp085 my kernel hangs or BBB does not start
 at allWhat may be the problem
Note:  
I am not using 5v supply.
  
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Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

2015-01-14 Thread John Syn

From:  JAY KOTHARI jaikothar...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:56 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB

 I belive that they may not provide required current. But would it cause by BBB
 not to power on? 
The pull up resistors will have nothing to do with BBB power up. My bet is
you have something connected to LCD_DATA[15..0] which changes the startup
mode of the BBB. Anything connected to these pins must be isolated until
after the SYS_RESETn goes high. Use a high impedance buffer to isolate these
signals and gate then with SYS_RESETn.

Regards,
John
 
 I will connect external resistor with sda1 and scl1 pins of BBB which are
 already pulled up. Where should I connect the other leg of these resistor.
 
 Regard 
 Jay Kothari
 
 On Thursday, 15 January 2015 11:21:22 UTC+5:30, john3909  wrote:
 
 From:  JAY KOTHARI jaikot...@gmail.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:17 PM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] bmp085 with uext connection with BBB
 
 bmp085 sensor works on 3.3v volt. I have internally pulled up the pin and I
 can see resistor connected in the harware diagram of bmp085.
 Still I connect external resistor?
 The internal resistors don¹t provide enough current. You will still need
 external resistors and I suggest 4k7.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 On Thursday, 15 January 2015 09:56:46 UTC+5:30, liyaoshi  wrote:
 Can you try connect with external 5V supply ?
 BTW, suggest R2 and R3 connect with 10k resister ,
 
 
 2015-01-15 12:14 GMT+08:00 JAY KOTHARI jaikot...@gmail.com:
 Hello,
   I am using bmp085 sensor with uext connection with beaglebone black.
 I have made change in device tree of BBB. I have made i2c1(pin 17 and 18)
 as input pin and pulled up internally and set it to mode two. I have also
 set compatible property in device tree to load module of bmp085.
  After looking into hardware design manual of bmp085 I interface with
 beaglebone black.I connected four wire (vdd(pin3),gnd(pin1),sda(pin17) and
 scl(pin18)) and kept other unconnected.
 
 https://www.olimex.com/Products/Modules/Sensors/MOD-BMP085/resources/MOD-B
 MP085_sch.pdf
 
When I boot my kernel my bmp085 module is loaded automatically and I am
 getting entry in /dev of i2c1
 
 Problem:
 When I connect BBB with bmp085 my kernel hangs or BBB does not start
 at allWhat may be the problem
Note:  
I am not using 5v supply.
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Compile Problem

2015-01-13 Thread John Syn

On 1/13/15, 12:33 AM, William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
wrote:

Thanks for all the help guys.
I don't mind if I have to start over from scratch.
Just so long as I end up with a Kernel with RAID support.

I am cross-compiling on a quad core i7 laptop, so no worries about
how long it takes. Just so long as I end up with a working image I can
copy to
a uSD card.
Yeah, but I think what Robert was showing you is that GIT is your friend
and is extremely powerful. I highly recommend that you take the time to
learn GIT because it will save you so much time. It also helps organize
your development process.

Regards,
John

Thanks again ...

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On 1/12/15, 1:38 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, William Pretty Security
bill.pre...@xplornet.com wrote:
 Pardon my ignorance Robert, but I'm not sure what you mean by rebase
the branch ?

git commit -a -m 'xyz' -s
git pull --rebase
I think this is a little more complicated. I¹m guessing William is on the
tmp branch, but since the he probably hasn¹t setup the tmp branch to
track the origin/xyz branch, he will get an error. If he did setup the
tmp branch to track origin/xyz branch, then he would retain all his
kernel changes after updating his repo.

or just:

git checkout master -f
git branch -D tmp
git pull
git checkout origin/xyz -b tmp
In this case William will loose all his kernel changes.

At least I think this is how it works.

Regards,
John

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Cross Compile Problem

2015-01-12 Thread John Syn

On 1/12/15, 1:38 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, William Pretty Security
bill.pre...@xplornet.com wrote:
 Pardon my ignorance Robert, but I'm not sure what you mean by rebase
the branch ?

git commit -a -m 'xyz' -s
git pull --rebase
I think this is a little more complicated. I¹m guessing William is on the
tmp branch, but since the he probably hasn¹t setup the tmp branch to track
the origin/xyz branch, he will get an error. If he did setup the tmp
branch to track origin/xyz branch, then he would retain all his kernel
changes after updating his repo.

or just:

git checkout master -f
git branch -D tmp
git pull
git checkout origin/xyz -b tmp
In this case William will loose all his kernel changes.

At least I think this is how it works.

Regards,
John

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge ESD testing

2015-01-07 Thread John Syn

From:  Lee lee.s...@bibby-scientific.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, January 7, 2015 at 9:00 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge
ESD testing

 When we discharged the ESD into either USB shell (positioned at the edge of
 the enclosure as previously described) the beagle reset (more often that not).
 We believe we have now fixed that particular issue by solidly grounding the
 USB shell to the enclosure at the point of entry.  A mechanical fix.
 There are other parts of the units that are metal and would be touched by the
 end user.  Some of these are also susceptible to the ESD.  We are going
 through a process of grounding these but this sometimes seems to make things
 worse!
 If by ground plane you mean on the enclosure rather than at the PCB level then
 yes there are holes in the ground plane, by necessity due to the mechanical
 design of the enclosure.
 We have previously assessed the unit for emissions and are up around the limit
 in the region of 160MHz to 180MHz.  We have not yet investigated the cause of
 that.
 Thank you for your help John, much appreciated.  Any further advice
 welcomed...
You need to look for frequencies in the GHz region because of the sharp rise
time for ESD pulse. I was talking about holes in your PCB ground plane.
Always remember there is a return path to every signal and this is what
newbies forget. What you want to do is prevent current from the ESD passing
through your board.  All these concepts and more are covered in the EMC
bible:

http://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Signal-Propagation-Advanced/dp/013084408X/r
ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1420660141sr=8-1keywords=black+magic+signal+integrit
y

Yes it is very old, but I haven’t found any other reference that is as
comprehensive. 

Regards,
John
 
 Regards,
 Lee.
 
 
 On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:17:47 UTC, john3909  wrote:
 
 From:  lee@bibby-scientific.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Monday, January 5, 2015 at 1:41 AM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge
 ESD testing
 
 To give further background...
 
 The BBB is positioned centrally at the front of a relatively large
 enclosure.  It is connected to a display/touchscreen which are also situated
 in the same area.
 
 The USB I/O is brought out of the enclosure at the side of the unit via USB
 cables and another PCB.  Both of the BBB USB connectors are connected within
 the enclosure by their own USB cable to a PCB of my own design.
 
 This PCB sits at the internal side face of the enclosure and provides access
 to USB Connectors from the outside world.
 
 On this PCB I have designed-in a Wurth Electronics ESD solution.  This
 solution is documented in the PDF (titled: USB Port Protection) at this
 link:  
 
 http://www.we-online.de/web/en/electronic_components/produkte_pb/application
 _notes/robustes_design_von_usb_anwendungen.php
 
 The solution I have implemented is described in the document as Double
 protection of single USB port on page 7.
 
 Any further comments welcome...
 So what happens when you discharge the ESD probe? Are you probing the USB
 connector case, pins, etc? I’m guessing the board either resets or hangs?
 This could be a grounding issue or an antenna issue; either way, you have to
 use a process of elimination to determine which. Best way to determine if it
 is an antenna issue, start by looking for radiated signals (you need a RF
 probe with a spectrum analyzer). If you don’t have the required equipment,
 your local university is always a great resource. EMI and EMC are really two
 sides of the same coin. If a signal radiates at a certain frequency, then it
 is also susceptible to those same frequencies. For grounding, it depends on
 how good your ground plane is and whether you have holes in your ground
 plane. 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 02:07:41 UTC, john3909  wrote:
 
 On 12/23/14, 4:58 PM, Chris Morgan chmo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How is your esd protection designed at the usb connections, or are you
 hitting the usb connectors right on the bbb? Would need a lot more
 details about exactly how the system was being built and where you are
 discharging to know what might be going on. I'm guessing your esd
 protection may not be getting to a solid enough chassis ground close
 enough to the connector that is being hit.
 Actually, from what I recall, the USB protection isn¹t in the right place.
 The correct layout is USB connector, ESD protection and then USB
 transceiver. However, in the BBB, the USB connector is connected to the
 USB transceiver and the ESD protection is on the other side of the USB
 connector. Granted, the distance is small and may even 

Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge ESD testing

2015-01-06 Thread John Syn

From:  lee.s...@bibby-scientific.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Monday, January 5, 2015 at 1:41 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge
ESD testing

 To give further background...
 
 The BBB is positioned centrally at the front of a relatively large enclosure.
 It is connected to a display/touchscreen which are also situated in the same
 area.
 
 The USB I/O is brought out of the enclosure at the side of the unit via USB
 cables and another PCB.  Both of the BBB USB connectors are connected within
 the enclosure by their own USB cable to a PCB of my own design.
 
 This PCB sits at the internal side face of the enclosure and provides access
 to USB Connectors from the outside world.
 
 On this PCB I have designed-in a Wurth Electronics ESD solution.  This
 solution is documented in the PDF (titled: USB Port Protection) at this link:
 
 http://www.we-online.de/web/en/electronic_components/produkte_pb/application_n
 otes/robustes_design_von_usb_anwendungen.php
 
 The solution I have implemented is described in the document as Double
 protection of single USB port on page 7.
 
 Any further comments welcome...
So what happens when you discharge the ESD probe? Are you probing the USB
connector case, pins, etc? I’m guessing the board either resets or hangs?
This could be a grounding issue or an antenna issue; either way, you have to
use a process of elimination to determine which. Best way to determine if it
is an antenna issue, start by looking for radiated signals (you need a RF
probe with a spectrum analyzer). If you don’t have the required equipment,
your local university is always a great resource. EMI and EMC are really two
sides of the same coin. If a signal radiates at a certain frequency, then it
is also susceptible to those same frequencies. For grounding, it depends on
how good your ground plane is and whether you have holes in your ground
plane. 

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 02:07:41 UTC, john3909  wrote:
 
 On 12/23/14, 4:58 PM, Chris Morgan chmo...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
 
 How is your esd protection designed at the usb connections, or are you
 hitting the usb connectors right on the bbb? Would need a lot more
 details about exactly how the system was being built and where you are
 discharging to know what might be going on. I'm guessing your esd
 protection may not be getting to a solid enough chassis ground close
 enough to the connector that is being hit.
 Actually, from what I recall, the USB protection isn¹t in the right place.
 The correct layout is USB connector, ESD protection and then USB
 transceiver. However, in the BBB, the USB connector is connected to the
 USB transceiver and the ESD protection is on the other side of the USB
 connector. Granted, the distance is small and may even work correctly, but
 this layout doesn¹t follow good ESD layout principles.
 
 Regards, 
 John 
  
 Chris 
  
  
  
 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:40 AM,  lee@bibby-scientific.com
 javascript:  wrote:
  Thanks for the prompt response Gerald.
  
  The beagle has been designed into a system which is in a plastic and
 metal 
  enclosure.  The only I/O it has to the outside (other than touchscreen)
 is 2 
  USB connections.
  
  These connections are what are prone to the 4kv ESD.  A discharge on the
  shell of the USB connector causes the micro to reset.  This occurs even
  though ESD suppression has been designed in at the USB connectors.
  
  The micro seems particularly prone to this phenomenon.  ESD is an
 awkward 
  problem to solve, there isn't one solution to fit all and things such as
  enclosure design can have an influence...
  
  On Monday, 22 December 2014 19:42:37 UTC, Gerald wrote:
  
  I am not sure what was used, other than putting it in a box or adding
 ESD 
  protection devices on every point on the board likely to be touched by
 a 
  person. 
  
  The certification was done by a lab. You are welcome to download the
 full 
  report from the WIKI.
  
  http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack
  
  Gerald 
  
  
  On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:57 AM, lee@bibby-scientific.com wrote:
  
  Hi Guys,  I am seeing the same issue as Richard above.  Was a
 solution 
  ever found for this ESD reset issue?
  
  In the past I have had some success on solving this issue on other
 micros 
  by adding some capacitance on the micro's reset line to prevent the
 reset 
  I/P bouncing when the ESD takes place, however looking at the BBB
  schematics, this is already included in the form of C24 being 1uF.
  
  Richard, did you find a solution to this?
  
  Gerald,  I assume this family of processors must be used in many
  commercial products.  Do you have an idea of what solutions were
 used 
 to 
  overcome this?
  
  Many thanks in advance.
  Lee. 
  
  On Friday, 1 August 2014 18:57:39 UTC+1, Gerald wrote:
  
  CE testing 

Re: [beagleboard] beaglebone black jtag/pru beginner advice

2015-01-06 Thread John Syn

On 1/6/15, 1:59 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote:

So, there's still a market for my once-upon-a-time project to make an OS
X-native debugger with a plug-in architecture for stuff like this...
Well, TI are considering releasing CCS on OSX, just not sure when. For now
I would just add a Parallels virtual machine running Ubuntu and run CCSV6
on that. Short of that, I think the project you are proposing to way to
big for just one person.

Regards,
John

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 13:27 , John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 1/6/15, 12:35 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote:
 
 Will this work with gdb or ddd on OS X?
 No, I don¹t believe it will. GDB or DDD require GDBServer running on the
 BBB or you can use an JTAG emulator from Ronetix (PEEDI) or Abatron
 (BDI2000) which emulates GDBServer.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:13 , tolga.cey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Thanks John. Sounds like USB100v2/CCSV6 will get me started.
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] beaglebone black jtag/pru beginner advice

2015-01-06 Thread John Syn


On 1/6/15, 12:35 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote:

Will this work with gdb or ddd on OS X?
No, I don¹t believe it will. GDB or DDD require GDBServer running on the
BBB or you can use an JTAG emulator from Ronetix (PEEDI) or Abatron
(BDI2000) which emulates GDBServer.

Regards,
John

 On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:13 , tolga.cey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Thanks John. Sounds like USB100v2/CCSV6 will get me started.


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB SYS_5V not dead on power off

2015-01-02 Thread John Syn

From:  maxmike maxmikes...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, January 2, 2015 at 2:30 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] BBB SYS_5V not dead on power off

 I am powering a DC/DC converter on my cape with SYS_5V and just noticed that
 on toggling the
 power button the machine does turn off, but there's still about 2V on SYS_5V -
 why?
 Using a 2A regulated power supply to power the unit.
That is because the PMIC driver is broken and I believe it will be fixed in
V3.19

Regards,
John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] eglibc is no longer developed

2015-01-01 Thread John Syn

From:  hansh...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] eglibc is no longer developed

 While building a crosstool-ng toolchain for my Mac, I noticed the following:
 1. ldd --version on my BBB gives 'Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38'
 2. eglibc.org http://www.eglibc.org/home  says that it is no longer
 supported
 3. 
 4. ct-ng recent issue response
 https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/issues/8  seems to state that
 they're starting the process to remove it
 Still having some difficulties getting my cross-compile toolchain built for
 mac os x... but that's to be expected.
 I'm also using 'Lion' (v10.6) which is two versions older than 'Maverick' or
 whatever... guess they ran out of cats...
 Hey, I just hate upgrading because it's always involved from my development
 perspective.
 
 Rather than make a public forum, I'd like to assess the situation.
 * Should I be concerned that the debian distro uses eglibc?
 * If I don't use eglibc, I probably can build the toolchain, but I'm not sure
 how that will work out in the longrun?
 * 
 * Is it possible that I can build a distro for my BBB that uses glibc instead?
 I saw that I can build the kernel in FAQ section, but I'm not sure about all
 the other drivers and such for peripherals?
 * 
 * Are there any plans for beaglebone to migrate to a distro that uses glibc
 instead of eglibc, or is this a non-issue?
 Meanwhile, I keep attempting to build a cross-compile toolchain for eclipse.
 
 Yes, I have a virtual machine for Ubuntu 14.10... but that's not the point...
 the VM can really slow my machine down, so I'd rather just work under Mac if
 possible.
 
 Any suggestions or topics you might have for building a cross-compile
 toolchain for Mac OS X would also be appreciated.
The biggest problem you will find is that OSX uses very old version of awk,
sed, make, grep, etc so a lot of the scripts you use to build rootfs,
kernels, u-boot, etc don¹t always work. Best to look at GNU compatible
versions of these tools like MacPort, HomeBrew, Fink and this might help
make thing easier. 

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks,
 Hans
 
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] seeking recommendation for SD card imaging hardware

2015-01-01 Thread John Syn

From:  Eric Fort eric.f...@gmail.com
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Date:  Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] seeking recommendation for SD card imaging hardware

 After recently upgrading my computer, I moved my desktop from windows to linux
 and no longer havea built in SD card slot.  I'm thus seeking recommendations
 for an inexpensive USB 3 adapter known to work well with debian jessie AMD64
 for imaging SD cards for Beagle(bone) and Rpi.  What are you using that works
 well for you and can be had reasonably cheaply from a US supplier?
I think most of them work. I use IOGEAR with Ubuntu 14.04 and it works
great.

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Eric
 
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Re: [beagleboard] beaglebone black jtag/pru beginner advice

2015-01-01 Thread John Syn

From:  tolga.cey...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] beaglebone black jtag/pru beginner advice

 Hi All,
 
 I've just purchased a beaglebone black for the purposes of learning embedded
 development and
 work on some fun robotics personal projects.
 
 I'd like to experiment with real-time processing, rt-linux, etc. And perhaps
 test/develop some pru
 code as well. But this is a personal project, so I can't really afford to buy
 expensive TI compilers/IDE
 software.
 
 However jtag documentation and options are a little bit overwhelming for a
 beginner. I've even seen
 blog posts on the internet suggesting certain jtags to sidestep TI
 compiler/ide license fees.
 
 Here are some options I've come up with;
 
 1) Buy blackhawk jtag emulator and ti 20-pin and solder pins on BBB.
 http://store.blackhawk-dsp.com/default/usb100v2d-jtag-emulator.html
 (and Samtec part number FTR-110-03-G-06)
 I think this is free to use with TI CCC IDE. But can I use this with openocd?
 
 2) try flyswatter2 and jtag kit and solder the pins. This seems a bit more
 expensive 
 and most importantly from online forums I see people not being able to get
 this working well...
 This seems more for openocd? Can I still use TI CCC IDE with this? Or would
 this incur license fees?
 
 I apologize if these don't make sense, since I've got this info from random
 research online.
 
 I'd appreciate any help with this...
There are a number of users on this mailing list who have tried to get
openocd working with BBB, but I¹m not aware of anyone doing this
successfully. I know these users spent weeks working on this and if you
consider the opportunity costs, the USB100V2 at $100 is much more cost
effective and it just works. Also note, that with CCSV6, you don¹t get a
Linux aware debugger so you are limited in the things you can do. You get
source level debugging and you can set hardware breakpoints, but you don¹t
get tracing and don¹t think about debugging kernel modules because that
requires you to understand how Linux loads kernel modules. Also, CCSV6 isn¹t
thread aware so when you are single stepping, the scheduler might switch
switch threads on you and that adds another level of complications. I use
Lauterbach which is Linux kernel aware and this make life much easier. It is
possible to use CCSV6 for Linux Kernel debugging, but just be aware of the
limitations. 

Regards,
John
 
 Cheers,
 Tolga
 
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] How to make BBB pins work after Ubuntu Trusty install?

2014-12-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Thorsten von Eicken tvoneic...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, December 27, 2014 at 5:10 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] How to make BBB pins work after Ubuntu Trusty
install?

 Thanks for the links! Much preferred over Robert's sarcasm. I know I'm not
 part of the BBB's in crowd. I don't have time for it, however interesting it
 is. I want to buy BBBs and use them and if I can't use them, I will buy
 something else, as simple as that...
You really shouldn¹t be so sensitive if you work on Linux, because we have
all been criticized from time to time. Learn from what Robert said and it
will make you smarter. If you had to answer the same questions from newbies
all day long for the last several years, you too would says something like
this. Robert is one of the most helpful people you will find and he works
very hard to make the rest of us look good. BTW, there is no ³in crowd²; we
are all individuals who give of our free time to help others. My hope is
that as you learn, you too will assist those who are just starting out.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Saturday, December 27, 2014 2:36:33 PM UTC-8, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 12/27/2014 4:15 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Thorsten von Eicken
  tvone...@gmail.com javascript:  wrote:
  On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:53:42 AM UTC-8, RobertCNelson wrote:
  
  I'm not really planning to document v3.14.x further, as something
  special is planned to be merged for v3.19-rc1. (if your following the
  device-tree mainline list)
  
  Can you kindly point me to any info about what 3.19 is going to bring?
  Thanks! 
  
  Where's the fun in that! ;) It's what everyone has been bugging me
  about personally and on this list for over a year. ;) if you can't
  find it on the device-tree mailing list, you didn't want it bad
  enough!!! ;) 
  
  (Sarcasm!!! ;))
 
 A late holiday present, since RCN seems to be camped out a bit too close
 to the eggnog!  :)
 
 It's device-tree changesets.  This is basically what cape manager was
 trying to do, but with the full support of the kernel developers behind
 it which will hopefully result in fewer kernel crashes!  :)
 
 ...some links to get you started:
 
 http://beagleboard.org/blog/2014-08-27-device-tree-overlay-support-lands-upst
 ream/
 
 http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Documentation/devicetree/changesets.txt
 
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Re: [beagleboard] make custom BeagleBone Black board

2014-12-27 Thread John Syn

From:  hali...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, December 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] make custom BeagleBone Black board

 So basically I want to use the functionality of the BB Black but make a custom
 board for my project. So far I was able to find the PCB schematics, but
 couln'd find any useful information on how to actually do it. How hard is it
 to make something like this ?
It depends on your skill sets. Have you designed high speed digital circuits
before?

Regards,
John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] CE and ESD, BBB is failing 4kV contact discharge ESD testing

2014-12-23 Thread John Syn

On 12/23/14, 4:58 PM, Chris Morgan chmor...@gmail.com wrote:

How is your esd protection designed at the usb connections, or are you
hitting the usb connectors right on the bbb? Would need a lot more
details about exactly how the system was being built and where you are
discharging to know what might be going on. I'm guessing your esd
protection may not be getting to a solid enough chassis ground close
enough to the connector that is being hit.
Actually, from what I recall, the USB protection isn¹t in the right place.
The correct layout is USB connector, ESD protection and then USB
transceiver. However, in the BBB, the USB connector is connected to the
USB transceiver and the ESD protection is on the other side of the USB
connector. Granted, the distance is small and may even work correctly, but
this layout doesn¹t follow good ESD layout principles.

Regards,
John

Chris



On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:40 AM,  lee.s...@bibby-scientific.com wrote:
 Thanks for the prompt response Gerald.

 The beagle has been designed into a system which is in a plastic and
metal
 enclosure.  The only I/O it has to the outside (other than touchscreen)
is 2
 USB connections.

 These connections are what are prone to the 4kv ESD.  A discharge on the
 shell of the USB connector causes the micro to reset.  This occurs even
 though ESD suppression has been designed in at the USB connectors.

 The micro seems particularly prone to this phenomenon.  ESD is an
awkward
 problem to solve, there isn't one solution to fit all and things such as
 enclosure design can have an influence...

 On Monday, 22 December 2014 19:42:37 UTC, Gerald wrote:

 I am not sure what was used, other than putting it in a box or adding
ESD
 protection devices on every point on the board likely to be touched by
a
 person.

 The certification was done by a lab. You are welcome to download the
full
 report from the WIKI.

 http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack

 Gerald


 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:57 AM, lee@bibby-scientific.com wrote:

 Hi Guys,  I am seeing the same issue as Richard above.  Was a solution
 ever found for this ESD reset issue?

 In the past I have had some success on solving this issue on other
micros
 by adding some capacitance on the micro's reset line to prevent the
reset
 I/P bouncing when the ESD takes place, however looking at the BBB
 schematics, this is already included in the form of C24 being 1uF.

 Richard, did you find a solution to this?

 Gerald,  I assume this family of processors must be used in many
 commercial products.  Do you have an idea of what solutions were used
to
 overcome this?

 Many thanks in advance.
 Lee.

 On Friday, 1 August 2014 18:57:39 UTC+1, Gerald wrote:

 CE testing that was does not cover ESD testing. This board has never
 been tested for ESD.

 Gerald



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Richard Ketcham
rich.k...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm interested in CE testing a device which includes the BBB. In
order
 to determine if the device will pass, I've been shocking it with an
ESD gun
 (both contact and discharge).  I have been running into an issue
where when
 I shock the ground plane with a 4kV contact discharge, the BBB
Ethernet
 becomes unresponsive and does not recover until I cycle the power.
I've
 tried this test with only the BBB and it reacts the same way. I see
there's
 a CE certification which says it passes 4kV contact discharge, but
I've been
 unable to replicate it.


 Are there caveats to the CE certification which the BBB has
relating to
 ESD testing?
 Is this a self certification?
 Do you have any suggestions on how mitigate this problem?

 I will appreciate any information you can provide on this problem.
 Thanks,
 Rich

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Re: [beagleboard] Linux Image building for Beagke Bone Black

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

From:  chirag panchal chiraagkam...@gmail.com
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Date:  Saturday, December 20, 2014 at 2:27 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Linux Image building for Beagke Bone Black

 Hi, Beagle Board provides latest images online.
  But I want to build my own image from readily available kernel, boot
 loader and file system.
  How to build OS image file from these sources???
https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black

Regards,
John
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Re: [beagleboard] Second Ethernet Port

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

On 12/20/14, 11:10 AM, faimbs fai...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello!

Is it possible to add a second Ethernet Port for a second network range?
This cannot be done with BBB because the pins for the second Ethernet Port
are available on the cape connectors. The TI AM335x EVM has two ethernet
ports and there are several third party boards/modules that bring out both
ports.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Second Ethernet Port

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

On 12/20/14, 12:49 PM, faimbs fai...@gmail.com wrote:

Am Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014 21:46:16 UTC+1 schrieb john3909:
 On 12/20/14, 11:10 AM, faimbs fai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 Is it possible to add a second Ethernet Port for a second network
range?
 This cannot be done with BBB because the pins for the second Ethernet
Port
 are available on the cape connectors. The TI AM335x EVM has two ethernet
 ports and there are several third party boards/modules that bring out
both
 ports.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
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Hello John!

There are a second port on the connectors?
Not all the signals are available. Gerald who designed the board says it
isn¹t possible, and he is the authority on this issue. If you have any
doubt, download the schematic of the AM335x EVM and see if all the signals
are available on the BBB cape connectors.

Regards,
John

Where can I find more information?

Thank you!

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Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

From:  nima talebpour nta@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, December 20, 2014 at 1:50 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

 could you please tel more about this language? I do not have any information
 about cobol. and please tel me why are you suggest this language ?
Cobol is mainly for financial industry and is a language that has been
around for a long time. I don¹t think this is suitable for your
requirements.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:59:40 PM UTC+3:30, RobertCNelson wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:02 AM, nima talebpour nta...@gmail.com
 javascript:  wrote:
  I want to start write application for BBB. but i am confused.
  which program language is better for BBB?
  
  Java or C++ and why?
  
  which of these languages has a better examples and source codes ?
 
 Neither. 
 
 There's only one true language... COBOL...
 
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Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

From:  nima talebpour nta@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, December 20, 2014 at 1:59 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

 1- yes
 2- no
 3- yes, for example communicate with usart and so on.
 4- I dont get your answer exactly
 5- yes, C,C# and java. but i am amateur in java :D
 6-as i told you in section 3 :D yes, Usart , control IO pins ,I2C,SPI
I would say you have a few choices. Because you have C experience, I would
recommend Python which is an interpreted language, but is still pretty fast
and interfaces with C code when you need better performance. Python has a
large library which will help speed up your development. Another choice is
C++ and QT development environment which is very powerful at producing
amazing GUI displays and also has everything you need to interface with your
I/O. You could always stay with C and use one of the GUI libraries, but I¹ll
defer to others who have more experience in this area.

Regards,
John
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:14:15 PM UTC+3:30, john3909 wrote:
 
 From:  nima talebpour nta...@gmail.com javascript: 
 Reply-To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Date:  Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM
 To:  beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:  beagl...@googlegroups.com
 javascript: 
 Subject:  [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB1-
 
 I want to start write application for BBB. but i am confused.
 which program language is better for BBB?
 
 Java or C++ and why?
 The obvious answer, it depends on what your application does. Answer these
 and it will be easier to give you an answer:
 1. Do you have a GUI?
 2. Will your app display output to a web browser?
 3. Does your app interface with I/O and if so, what type?
 4. What are the performance constraints?
 5. Do you have any programming language experience?
 6. Do you have any communication requirements?
 There are several other distinguishers, but let¹s start with these and go
 from there. BTW, Robert and William¹s responses were hilarious. Really made
 me laugh. 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 which of these languages has a better examples and source codes ?
 
 thank you for guiding me.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

2014-12-20 Thread John Syn

On 12/20/14, 2:46 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:50 PM, nima talebpour nta@gmail.com wrote:
 could you please tel more about this language? I do not have any
information
 about cobol. and please tel me why are you suggest this language ?

My response was sarcasm...  Your question was too simplistic, without
know what you wanted to do there's really no true answer for the
original question.
It went right over the heads of some, but I got a good laugh out of your
suggestion. Actually, I think one use thought it was a good solution.
Interesting. 

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Gesture Recognition System

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  biswesh panda bisweshanu...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Gesture Recognition System

 I am working on a project where I'm trying to capture different kinds of
 gestures that mute people generally make and try to link it to a audio file
 which conveys the meaning of that particular gesture. I'm using opencv for
 computer vision applications and BeagleBone Black. Can you tell me which edge
 detection algorithms will be best suited for me? The challenge that I may face
 are-
 1) The color intensity of the hand may match with that of the sourrounding.
 2) There's no guarantee that the background will be moving or will it be in a
 standstill.
 
 Another thing is the efficiency of the algorithm should be fast so as to
 recognize the gestures quickly.
I think the BBB won¹t have the horsepower to do what you want. The next
product called BeagleBoard-X15 will be more suitable for this application
and is scheduled for release sometime in Feb 2015.

Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] A new camera board for the Beagleboeard XM - Vifff-024

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

On 12/18/14, 1:49 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote:

Oh, I didn't realize a camera port wasn't available on the am335x on the
BBB. Hmm. That puts a damper on a different project idea I had. Maybe
I'll pick up an xM.
Better to wait for the BeagleBoard-X15 which will have the camera
interface.

Regards,
John

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wrote:
 
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com
wrote:
 Will you be making one for BBB?
 
 This is using the dedicated camera interface on the xM, the am335x
 used on the BBB doesn't contain this IP block, thus would have much
 MUCH slower performance. (if any performance at all)
 
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Re: [beagleboard] A new camera board for the Beagleboeard XM - Vifff-024

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

On 12/18/14, 1:58 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote:


 On Dec 18, 2014, at 13:56 , John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Better to wait for the BeagleBoard-X15 which will have the camera
 interface.

Oh, goodness, how long do I have to wait for that beauty?
Scheduled for Feb, 2015

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Re: [beagleboard] Gesture Recognition System

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  biswesh panda bisweshanu...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Gesture Recognition System

 Thank you for the advice. But I'm a student and a newbie and experimenting out
 on things. So can you say about the efficient edge detection algorithms?
I don¹t know enough to offer any advice but I asked my brother-in-law who
does image recognition for JPL and he suggested Canny.

http://www.robotix.in/tutorials/category/opencv/edge_detection

Regards,
John
 
 
 
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 From:  biswesh panda bisweshanu...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Gesture Recognition System
 
 I am working on a project where I'm trying to capture different kinds of
 gestures that mute people generally make and try to link it to a audio file
 which conveys the meaning of that particular gesture. I'm using opencv for
 computer vision applications and BeagleBone Black. Can you tell me which
 edge detection algorithms will be best suited for me? The challenge that I
 may face are-
 1) The color intensity of the hand may match with that of the sourrounding.
 2) There's no guarantee that the background will be moving or will it be in
 a standstill.
 
 Another thing is the efficiency of the algorithm should be fast so as to
 recognize the gestures quickly.
 I think the BBB won¹t have the horsepower to do what you want. The next
 product called BeagleBoard-X15 will be more suitable for this application and
 is scheduled for release sometime in Feb 2015.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] connect Capacitive Touch Sensors on BBB

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  nta@gmail.com
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Date:  Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 5:36 AM
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Subject:  [beagleboard] connect  Capacitive Touch Sensors on BBB

 hi.
 I bought 4DCAPE_70T  lcd from http://www.4dsystems.com.au/product/4DCAPE_70T/.
 this lcd has a resistive touch screen the question is, is there any way to
 connect capacitive touch screen to  that lcd? and does debian image of BBB
 support capacitive touch ?
 is the answer is positive please guide me how i can do this ?
Typically, the capacitive touch sensor is connected via USB. The one I used
was from Chalk Elec which is LCD with Capacitive Touch sensor already
attached to the display. This does work with BBB.

http://www.chalk-elec.com/

Regards,
John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] interfacing GSM module with Beagle board xm

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  noob chaitree.baradkar...@gmail.com
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Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:51 PM
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Subject:  [beagleboard] interfacing GSM module with Beagle board xm

 Hello .
  I want to start with a project in which i have to interface GSM 300 module
 with Beagle Board xm. And then sending a sms after specific interval . I'm new
 to this area. I want to know the details about how to interface GSM module
 with Beagle Board xm and how to make board to control the module .
  please help me to understand considering i'm new to this field.
  thank you. 
The interface is normally a serial connection and you use predefined AT
commands to dial and setup the connection.

http://www.engineersgarage.com/contribution/how-to-interface-GSM-SIM-300-mod
em-with-atmega32-to-send-and-receive-SMS

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Re: [beagleboard] Direct PRU pins available?

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  Charles Kerr charlesker...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Direct PRU pins available?

 But that is the BBB  isn't it? (I have used that). Was curious about the X15.
Knowing Gerald, he isn¹t going to talk about this until after the
BeagleBoard-X15 is released in Feb, 2015.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:49:52 PM UTC-5, Gerald wrote:
 That is covered in the SRM.
 http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#LATEST_PRODUCTION_FILES_.28
 C.29
 
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Charles Kerr charle...@gmail.com
 javascript:  wrote:
 Was curious how many PRU pins (on each PRU) would be available for direct
 mapping to R30/R31 of the PRU?  One of the drawbacks I have with the BBB is
 the limited direct access pins for output on both PRUs (after you use the
 FLASH and a few peripherals).
 
 This board looks like it might be a really nice package.
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Re: [beagleboard] A new camera board for the Beagleboeard XM - Vifff-024

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  Hristo Laftchiev laftch...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 8:37 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] A new camera board for the Beagleboeard XM -
Vifff-024

 I think that the problem with every processor is to manage also the Image
 Signal Processor, which is
 the entry port of the video stream toward the main processor memory space.
 With the new processor
 (compatible with Cortex A-15 but which one? - omap5 or ?) one must redo the
 drivers for the ISP
 and also change the boaromap3beagle.c file in the Linux kernel with
 appropriate settings
 for the camera. I hope also that the camera port will be also pin to pin
 compatible with the cameras
 for Beagleboard XM. So, let me resume:
 1. Beagle Bone can have camera attached, but not through the natural ISP of
 the processor.
 2. BBB - I must see.
 3. BB-XM is for now the ideal choice from the Beagle family of boards to
 attach a camera.
 4. BB-A15 is in the future and we do not know how much time will take to write
 the appropriate drivers for the ISP
 of the unknown processor. For the BB-XM (DM3730 is OMAP3 architecture), before
 the drivers became really well functioning
 it took 2,5 years of development. The right persons to ask about future camera
 compatibility of this are J. Kridner or L. Pinchart.
 Because the software support for the ISP of the processor is decisive for the
 appearance of working camera boards for it.
 So for now, we stay with BB-XM, which works, it has enough processor power +
 DSP and is very stable.
You raise some good points. Beagleboard-X15 is based on DRA7 architecture
which is the next generation after OMAP5 targeted at the Automotive industry
(at least that is my understanding). One issue with DM3730 is that there is
no SysLink equivalent (RPMSG/REMOTEPROC) that works in Linux Kernels after
V3.4, which means you cannot use the DSP unless you implement RPC and Remote
DSP load yourself. RPMSG/REMOTEPROC is already working on Beagleboard-X15
and TI expect to push this into mainline early 2015. From what Robert Nelson
tells us, Beagleboard-X15 kernel V3.18 is mostly in mainline and there are
very few patches. I¹ll wait for Robert to respond as to the status of X15
camera support. 

Regards,
John
 
 Cheers,
 Hristo
 
 
 On Friday, December 19, 2014 12:11:08 AM UTC+2, john3909 wrote:
 
 On 12/18/14, 1:58 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
 
  
  On Dec 18, 2014, at 13:56 , John Syn john...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Better to wait for the BeagleBoard-X15 which will have the camera
  interface. 
  
 Oh, goodness, how long do I have to wait for that beauty?
 Scheduled for Feb, 2015
  
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Re: [beagleboard] How to resolve expired GPG key

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 10:24 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] How to resolve expired GPG key

 I've successfully updated two BBB to the latest 2014-12-11 Debian image.  I
 ran into a small problem trying to upgrade one more.
 
 When executing sudo apt-get update I'm seeing a GPG error that the other two
 boards didn't have.  Any help resolving this would be appreciated!
 
 debian@beaglebone:~$ uname -a
 Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone68 #1 SMP Sat Nov 22 02:12:03 UTC 2014 armv7l
 GNU/Linux
 debian@beaglebone:~$ cat /etc/dogtag
 BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2014-12-11
 
 debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo apt-get update
 Hit http://repos.rcn-ee.net wheezy Release.gpg
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
 Get:1 http://debian.beagleboard.org wheezy-bbb Release.gpg [490 B]
 Hit http://repos.rcn-ee.net wheezy Release
 Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release.gpg
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates Release.gpg
 Hit http://debian.beagleboard.org wheezy-bbb Release
 Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release
 Ign http://debian.beagleboard.org wheezy-bbb Release
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release
 Hit http://repos.rcn-ee.net wheezy/main armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates Release
 Hit http://debian.beagleboard.org wheezy-bbb/main armhf Packages
 Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main armhf Packages
 Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib armhf Packages
 Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy/main armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy/contrib armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy/non-free armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates/main armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates/contrib armhf Packages
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates/non-free armhf Packages
 Fetched 490 B in 8s (57 B/s)
 Reading package lists... Done
 W: GPG error: http://debian.beagleboard.org wheezy-bbb Release: The following
 signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1418840246 KEYEXPIRED 1418840304
 KEYEXPIRED 1418840246 KEYEXPIRED 1418840246 KEYEXPIRED 1418840304
My guess is your date/time is wrong. Try sudo ntpdate-debian² and try
again. 

Regards,
John
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Multiple IP camera streaming in BBB

2014-12-18 Thread John Syn

From:  Jesse Cobra jesseco...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 10:28 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Multiple IP camera streaming in BBB

 Sounds pretty simple, just use the Chromium browser on the BBB to look at the
 4 ipcams?
 Assuming you are using ip cameras...
Yeah, also look at:

http://webrtc.org

Regards,
John
 
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Vinayak Aghor vinayak.ag...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hello All,
 I want to stream 4 camera inputs at once through BBB. I have ethernet switch
 which connects four 1MP camera and this ethernet switch connects to ethernet
 port of BBB.
 Please help me how to stream from all 4 cameras at once. So I can check video
 on HDMI port. Please help what points i need to consider while designing.
  
 Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-17 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 I've had a bit of a dig on element14, this seems to fit the bill
 (http://au.element14.com/texas-instruments/sn74lvc1g14dbvr/ic-schmitt-trigger-
 inverter-smd/dp/1470878) but it's not suitable for a breadboard prototype. You
 don't know where I should be looking for a suitable prototyping product by any
 chance?
One more thing. If you do use this part with an adapter, don¹t use any of
the pins LCD_DATA[15..0] for GPIO or you board won¹t boot. If you want to
use any of these pins, you must use a schmitt trigger with an Output Enable
(OE) pin, which you tie to the SYS_RESETn pin.

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:58:21 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Yes, that sounds exactly like the device.
 
 Awesome, didn't even know such a beast existed. Will do my reading tonight.
 http://www.ti.com/lit/an/scea046/scea046.pdf
 
 Page 4 explains the concept.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 Thanks again,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:47:20 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine,
 though this'll only be the first install and the others may be different
 (but presumably similar) parts.
 OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
 GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is
 a resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
 signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
 trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even
 less sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+
 down to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
 divider after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal
 diode so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I
 can determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
 BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler
 way to interface this to the BBB.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4
 in this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at
 80uA, but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC
 input. The only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper
 signal conditioner. First start with the voltage range of the input and
 then scale that down with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference
 to deal with negative voltage inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a
 digital input?
 
 Regards,
 John

Re: [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

2014-12-17 Thread John Syn

From:  nima talebpour nta@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 6:02 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] which program language is better for BBB

 I want to start write application for BBB. but i am confused.
 which program language is better for BBB?
 
 Java or C++ and why?
The obvious answer, it depends on what your application does. Answer these
and it will be easier to give you an answer:
1. Do you have a GUI?
2. Will your app display output to a web browser?
3. Does your app interface with I/O and if so, what type?
4. What are the performance constraints?
5. Do you have any programming language experience?
6. Do you have any communication requirements?
There are several other distinguishers, but let¹s start with these and go
from there. BTW, Robert and William¹s responses were hilarious. Really made
me laugh. 

Regards,
John
 
 
 which of these languages has a better examples and source codes ?
 
 thank you for guiding me.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4 in
this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:

http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf

You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at 80uA,
but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC input. The
only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal conditioner.
First start with the voltage range of the input and then scale that down
with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal with negative
voltage inputs.

To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
input? 

Regards,
John

 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could
 do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
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 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
  
 
 From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Paul Hannah
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
  
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect flowmeter.
 
  
 
 My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to get
 down to the 0-1.8v I need.
 
  
 
 The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a different
 input voltage.
 
  
 
 I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to do this. I really only need to clip
 the voltage between 0-1.8v, it doesn't matter if it spends 90% of it's time
 clipped and throws away the negative half of the signal completely as I'm only
 interested in a count.
 
  
 
 The current draw will be in the millivolt-range used by the adc input, so it
 shouldn't need anything too heavy.
 
  
 
 My first thought is a simple voltage regulator set to 1.8v, but I don't know
 enough about them to know whether it's a viable option or which to choose.
 
  
 
 Any suggestions?
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Re: [beagleboard] Qt 5.4 on BBB OpenGL: Linux is dead after execute examples. Keyboard and mouse have no response.

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

On 12/16/14, 8:35 PM, Peter Gregory talkto...@gmail.com wrote:

You can turn off the cursor using environment variable
QT_QPA_EGLFS_HIDECURSOR=1

I haven't found the proper way to have the console and a EGLFS Qt
application on the LCD work at the same time.
I've found that debugging messages go to the main console while the Qt
application runs on the LCD
So, the LCD display flashes with debugging messages on the console.
I had to re-compile Qt 5.3 with -DQT_NO_DEBUG_OUTPUT
-DQT_NO_WARNING_OUTPUT to get it to stop spamming the main console.
If you figure out how to make it work right, that would be great.
I think you just remove the console=tty0 from your mmcargs line in
uEnv.txt file. That should remove the console output from your display,
but will continue to display the console on the UART.

Regards,
John

A great resource for Qt embedded options is here:
https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5-snapshot/embedded-linux.html

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Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even less
 sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+ down
 to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage divider
 after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal diode so
 that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I can
 determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
Yeah, the reverse voltage will exceed the limits set on the ADC so a zener
will not work for you. Here is a document that explains the principles that
will help you.

http://www.ti.com.cn/cn/lit/an/sboa097a/sboa097a.pdf

Or search Google for adc signal conditioning circuit² for more references.

Regards,
John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4 in
 this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at 80uA,
 but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC input. The
 only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal conditioner.
 First start with the voltage range of the input and then scale that down with
 an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal with negative voltage
 inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
 input? 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
 could do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
 Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/boo
 k 
  
 
 From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Hannah
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
  
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect flowmeter.
 
  
 
 My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to get
 down to the 0-1.8v I need.
 
  
 
 The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a different
 input voltage.
 
  
 
 I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to do this. I really only need to
 clip the voltage between 0-1.8v, it doesn't matter if it spends 90% of it's
 time clipped and throws away the negative half of the signal completely as
 I'm only interested in a count.
 
  
 
 The current draw will be in the millivolt-range used by the adc input, so it
 shouldn't need anything too heavy.
 
  
 
 My first thought is a simple voltage regulator set to 1.8v, but I don't know
 enough about them to know whether it's a viable option or which to choose.
 
  
 
 Any suggestions?
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Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even less
 sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+ down
 to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage divider
 after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal diode so
 that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I can
 determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler way
to interface this to the BBB.

Regards,
John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4 in
 this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at 80uA,
 but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC input. The
 only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal conditioner.
 First start with the voltage range of the input and then scale that down with
 an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal with negative voltage
 inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
 input? 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
 could do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
 Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/boo
 k 
  
 
 From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Hannah
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
  
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect flowmeter.
 
  
 
 My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to get
 down to the 0-1.8v I need.
 
  
 
 The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a different
 input voltage.
 
  
 
 I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to do this. I really only need to
 clip the voltage between 0-1.8v, it doesn't matter if it spends 90% of it's
 time clipped and throws away the negative half of the signal completely as
 I'm only interested in a count.
 
  
 
 The current draw will be in the millivolt-range used by the adc input, so it
 shouldn't need anything too heavy.
 
  
 
 My first thought is a simple voltage regulator set to 1.8v, but I don't know
 enough about them to know whether it's a viable option or which to choose.
 
  
 
 Any suggestions?
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Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 John,
 
 Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine, though
 this'll only be the first install and the others may be different (but
 presumably similar) parts.
OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is a
resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.

Regards,
John
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even less
 sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+ down
 to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
 divider after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal diode
 so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I can
 determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
 BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler way
 to interface this to the BBB.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4 in
 this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at 80uA,
 but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC input. The
 only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal conditioner.
 First start with the voltage range of the input and then scale that down
 with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal with negative
 voltage inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
 input? 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
 could do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
 nothing Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/bo
 ok 
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/b
 ook 
  
 
 From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Hannah
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
  
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect flowmeter.
 
  
 
 My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to get
 down to the 0-1.8v I need.
 
  
 
 The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a different
 input voltage.
 
  
 
 I'm wondering if there's a simpler way to do this. I really only need to
 clip the voltage between 0-1.8v, it doesn't matter if it spends 90% of
 it's time clipped and throws away the negative half of the signal
 completely as I'm only interested in a count.
 
  
 
 The current draw will be in the millivolt-range used by the adc input, so
 it shouldn't need anything too heavy.
 
  
 
 My first thought is a simple voltage regulator set to 1.8v, but I don't
 know enough about them to know whether it's a viable option or which to
 choose.
 
  
 
 Any suggestions?
 -- 
 For more options, visit http

Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 Yes, that sounds exactly like the device.
 
 Awesome, didn't even know such a beast existed. Will do my reading tonight.
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/scea046/scea046.pdf

Page 4 explains the concept.

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks again,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:47:20 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine,
 though this'll only be the first install and the others may be different
 (but presumably similar) parts.
 OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
 GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is a
 resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
 signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
 trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even
 less sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+
 down to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
 divider after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal diode
 so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I can
 determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
 BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler way
 to interface this to the BBB.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4
 in this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at
 80uA, but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC
 input. The only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper signal
 conditioner. First start with the voltage range of the input and then
 scale that down with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference to deal
 with negative voltage inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a digital
 input? 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
 could do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
 nothing Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/
 book 
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone
 /book 
  
 
 From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Hannah
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
  
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I'm looking to build a system to sense 'steps' of a hall-effect
 flowmeter.
 
  
 
 My first throught is to use a voltage divider and rectifier circuit to
 get down to the 0-1.8v I need.
 
  
 
 The problem I have is that every install may potentially have a
 different input voltage.
 
  
 
 I'm

Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 I've had a bit of a dig on element14, this seems to fit the bill
 (http://au.element14.com/texas-instruments/sn74lvc1g14dbvr/ic-schmitt-trigger-
 inverter-smd/dp/1470878) but it's not suitable for a breadboard prototype. You
 don't know where I should be looking for a suitable prototyping product by any
 chance?
http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2101+203662+110122219+110112
113Ntk=gensearchNtt=schmitt+triggerNtx=mode+matchallpartialNo=0getResul
ts=trueappliedparametrics=truelocale=en_AUdivisionLocale=en_AUcatalogId=
skipManufacturer=falseskipParametricAttributeId=prevNValues=2101+203662m
m=1001353||,1002627||,filtersHidden=falseappliedHidden=falseautoApply=fal
seoriginalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D2101%2B203662%26Ntk%3
Dgensearch%26Ntt%3Dschmitt%2Btrigger%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchallpartial%26No%3D0
%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_AU%26division
Locale%3Den_AU%26catalogId%3D%26skipManufacturer%3Dfalse%26skipParametricAtt
ributeId%3D%26prevNValues%3D2101%2B203662
http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2101+203662+110122219+11011
2113Ntk=gensearchNtt=schmitt+triggerNtx=mode+matchallpartialNo=0getResu
lts=trueappliedparametrics=truelocale=en_AUdivisionLocale=en_AUcatalogId
=skipManufacturer=falseskipParametricAttributeId=prevNValues=2101+203662
mm=1001353%7C%7C,1002627%7C%7C,filtersHidden=falseappliedHidden=falseauto
Apply=falseoriginalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D2101%2B20366
2%26Ntk%3Dgensearch%26Ntt%3Dschmitt%2Btrigger%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchallpartial
%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_AU%2
6divisionLocale%3Den_AU%26catalogId%3D%26skipManufacturer%3Dfalse%26skipPara
metricAttributeId%3D%26prevNValues%3D2101%2B203662

If this link doesn¹t work, search for schmitt trigger² then select ³Gates 
Inverters² and then select ³Logic case style of ³DIP²

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:58:21 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Yes, that sounds exactly like the device.
 
 Awesome, didn't even know such a beast existed. Will do my reading tonight.
 http://www.ti.com/lit/an/scea046/scea046.pdf
 
 Page 4 explains the concept.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 Thanks again,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:47:20 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine,
 though this'll only be the first install and the others may be different
 (but presumably similar) parts.
 OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
 GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is
 a resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
 signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
 trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even
 less sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+
 down to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
 divider after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal
 diode so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I
 can determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
 BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much

Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

2014-12-16 Thread John Syn

From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input

 I've had a bit of a dig on element14, this seems to fit the bill
 (http://au.element14.com/texas-instruments/sn74lvc1g14dbvr/ic-schmitt-trigger-
 inverter-smd/dp/1470878) but it's not suitable for a breadboard prototype. You
 don't know where I should be looking for a suitable prototyping product by any
 chance?
Or you could use the part you selected and use this adapter:

http://au.element14.com/capital-advanced/33205/convert-from-5-sc-59-sc-74a-s
ot/dp/1654363

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:58:21 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:50 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Yes, that sounds exactly like the device.
 
 Awesome, didn't even know such a beast existed. Will do my reading tonight.
 http://www.ti.com/lit/an/scea046/scea046.pdf
 
 Page 4 explains the concept.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 Thanks again,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:47:20 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 10:26 PM
 
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Cheers, it's a Gicar 9.0.95.05g -- sits in a cafe-style coffee machine,
 though this'll only be the first install and the others may be different
 (but presumably similar) parts.
 OK, I couldn¹t find a data sheet, but I think this is a three pin device,
 GND, POWER (4.5 - 20V) and PULSE. If this is correct, then all you need is
 a resistor divider as you suggested and a schmitt trigger to clean up the
 signal and then feed this directly into one of the GPIO pins. The schmitt
 trigger should be powered from VDD_3V3B and enabled with SYS_RESETn.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 17:02:30 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Paul Hannah p...@memetec.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 John,
 
 Digital input, hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, but I'm even
 less sure of myself in that arena...
 
 I have to admit first my electronics knowledge is very rusty...
 
 Maybe I can use a voltage divider after the diode/s to halve that 1.8v+
 down to a safe 1.0v-ish.
 
 My first thought here is to use a zener diode as in here
 http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode42.gif) with a voltage
 divider after.
 
 Is the reverse voltage low enough to be safe with the BBB?
 
 If not, what if I set up something like this, but make D_Z1 a normal
 diode so that the reverse current is completely stopped?
 
 Again, not interested at all in the quality of the signal as long as I
 can determine the number of cycles.
 
 Sorry for the electronics 101 questions, appreciate all your time.
 BTW, what is the flowmeter part number. Perhaps there is a much simpler
 way to interface this to the BBB.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Paul.
 
 On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 14:55:09 John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Pretty Security bill.pre...@xplornet.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Tuesday, December 16, 2014 at 7:00 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  RE: [beagleboard] Sensing flowmeter / protecting analog input
 
 Hmm
  
 Maybe a 1.8v zener ?
 
 I see this recommendation all the time, but it won¹t work. Look at fig 4
 in this document for the zener voltage characteristics DDZ9678:
 
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds30410.pdf
 
 You will see that the zener voltage is at 1.8v when the current is at
 80uA, but at 100uA, the voltage exceeds the maximum allowed on the ADC
 input. The only way to deal with this situation is to use a proper
 signal conditioner. First start with the voltage range of the input and
 then scale that down with an op-amp. You can also offset the reference
 to deal with negative voltage inputs.
 
 To the OP, you are only using this for counting, why use ADC. Why not
 scale/condition the output of the hall-effect flowmeter and use a
 digital input?
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Or 1N4007¹s in series = 1.4V
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he
 could do only

Re: [beagleboard] Qt 5.4 on BBB OpenGL: Linux is dead after execute examples. Keyboard and mouse have no response.

2014-12-13 Thread John Syn

From:  Yang Lei y34...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, December 13, 2014 at 1:55 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Qt 5.4 on BBB OpenGL: Linux is dead after execute
examples. Keyboard and mouse have no response.

 Hello everyone
 
 I¹m new on Qt on arm linux. I¹m trying to cross compile the newest version Qt
 5.4 for Beaglebone Black(BBB). I think I almost successed because I finished
 configure and make of Qt 5.4 based on root file system on BBB. When I try to
 run an example, the GUI shows up but the linux is dead and there is no
 response from keyboard and mouse. The only thing I can do is to reset BBB.
 Could someone help me with this problem? I will describe my steps as follow:
 
 1. Build Ubuntu SD card
 
 For this step, I followed the following website:
 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
 
 Kernel version:
  Linux arm 3.18.0-bone1 #1 Mon Dec 8 23:08:59 EST 2014 armv71 armv71 armv71
 GNU/Linux
 
 Root file system:
  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
 
 Cross compiler:
  arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-4.9-2014.09 ­ Linaro GCC
 4.9-2014.09) 4.9.2 20140904 (prerelease)
 
 The SD card just works fine.
 
 2. Build and install SGX driver
  Also, I followed the SGX part of the following website
 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
 https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
 
 The demo program OGLES2ChameleonMan works fine.
 
 3. Build Qt 5.4
  (1) Download Qt 5.4 source qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.4.0.tar.gz
 http://download.qt-project.org/archive/qt/5.4/5.4.0/single/
 http://download.qt-project.org/archive/qt/5.4/5.4.0/single/
 
 (2) Configure Qt 5.4
  copy the newest cross compiler library to root file system (otherwise the
 configure has errors)
 1. sudo cp -r some
 dir/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.9-2014.09_linux/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc
 /* some dir/rootfs
 edit /qtbase/mkspecs/devices/linux-beaglebone-g++/qmake.conf
 1. Ln 29: COMPILER_FLAGS  = -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon
 -mfloat-abi=hard
 2. 
 3. Ln 39: QMAKE_INCDIR_EGL= $$[QT_SYSROOT]/usr/include/OGLES2
 configure
 1. sudo ./configure -prefix /home/ubuntu/Qt
 http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  -device linux-beaglebone-g++
 -device-option 
 CROSS_COMPILE=/home/albert/arm-dev/kernel_dev/bb-kernel/dl/gcc-linaro-arm-linu
 x-gnueabihf-4.9-2014.09_linux/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf- -sysroot
 /media/albert/rootfs -release -opensource -confirm-license -opengl es2 -v
 configure result
 1.Configure summary
 2. 
 3.  
 4. 
 5. Building on:   linux-g++ (x86_64, CPU features: mmx sse sse2)
 6. 
 7. Building for:  devices/linux-beaglebone-g++ (arm, CPU features: neon)
 8. 
 9. Platform notes:
 10. 
 11.  
 12. 
 13. - Also available for Linux: linux-kcc linux-icc linux-cxx
 14. 
 15. 
 16. 
 17. qmake vars .. styles += mac fusion windows DEFINES += QT_NO_MTDEV
 DEFINES += QT_NO_LIBUDEV QMAKE_X11_PREFIX = /usr sql-drivers =  sql-plugins =
 sqlite qmake switches .
 18. 
 19.  
 20. 
 21. Build options:
 22. 
 23.   Build parts  libs examples
 24. 
 25.   Mode ... release
 26. 
 27.   Using C++11  yes
 28. 
 29.   Using gold linker... yes
 30. 
 31.   Using PCH .. yes
 32. 
 33.   Target compiler supports:
 34. 
 35. Neon . yes
 36. 
 37.  
 38. 
 39. Qt http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  modules and options:
 40. 
 41.   Qt http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  D-Bus ... runtime
 42. 
 43.   Qt http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  Concurrent .. yes
 44. 
 45.   Qt http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  GUI . yes
 46. 
 47.   Qt http://qt-project.org/doc/Qt.html  Widgets . yes
 48. 
 49.   Large File . yes
 50. 
 51.   QML debugging .. yes
 52. 
 53.   Use system proxies . no
 54. 
 55.  
 56. 
 57. Support enabled for:
 58. 
 59.   Accessibility .. yes
 60. 
 61.   ALSA ... no
 62. 
 63.   CUPS ... no
 64. 
 65.   Evdev .. yes
 66. 
 67.   FontConfig . no
 68. 
 69.   FreeType ... yes (bundled copy)
 70. 
 71.   Glib ... no
 72. 
 73.   GTK theme .. no
 74. 
 75.   HarfBuzz ... yes (bundled copy)
 76. 
 77.   Iconv .. yes
 78. 
 79.   ICU  no
 80. 
 81.   Image formats:
 82. 
 83. GIF .. yes (plugin, using bundled copy)
 84. 
 85. JPEG . yes (plugin, using bundled copy)
 86. 
 87. PNG .. yes (in QtGui
 http://qt-project.org/doc/QtGui.html , using bundled copy)
 88. 
 89.   journald ... no
 90. 
 91.   mtdev .. no
 92. 
 93.   Networking:
 94. 
 95. getaddrinfo .. yes
 96. 

Re: [beagleboard] v3.19-rc0 overlays...

2014-12-12 Thread John Syn

On 12/11/14, 3:23 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

So if your watching git:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id
=7ef58b32f571bffb7763c6252ad7527562081f34

- OF_RECONFIG notifiers for SPI, I2C and Platform devices. Those
subsystems can now respond to live changes to the device tree.
- CONFIG_OF_OVERLAY method for applying live changes to the device tree
Yeah, this is really good news. BTW, what is the mechanism to update the
devicetree from user space? Is this done via sysfs like capemanager?

Regards,
John

Regards,

-- 
Robert Nelson
http://www.rcn-ee.com/

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Re: [beagleboard] v3.19-rc0 overlays...

2014-12-12 Thread John Syn

On 12/12/14, 1:19 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/11/14, 3:23 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

So if your watching git:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?
id
=7ef58b32f571bffb7763c6252ad7527562081f34

- OF_RECONFIG notifiers for SPI, I2C and Platform devices. Those
subsystems can now respond to live changes to the device tree.
- CONFIG_OF_OVERLAY method for applying live changes to the device tree
 Yeah, this is really good news. BTW, what is the mechanism to update the
 devicetree from user space? Is this done via sysfs like capemanager?

It's thru: configfs, Pantelis's patch is here:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/devicetree/msg61079.html

docs in patch

+Howto use the configfs overlay interface.
+
+A device-tree configfs entry is created in /config/device-tree/overlays
+and and it is manipulated using standard file system I/O.
+Note that this is a debug level interface, for use by developers and
+not necessarily something accessed by normal users due to the
+security implications of having direct access to the kernel's device
tree.
+
+* To create an overlay you mkdir the directory:
+
+ # mkdir /config/device-tree/overlays/foo
+
+* Either you echo the overlay firmware file to the path property file.
+
+ # echo foo.dtbo /config/device-tree/overlays/foo/path
+
+* Or you cat the contents of the overlay to the dtbo file
+
+ # cat foo.dtbo /config/device-tree/overlays/foo/dtbo
+
+The overlay file will be applied, and devices will be created/destroyed
+as required.
+
+To remove it simply rmdir the directory.
+
+ # rmdir /config/device-tree/overlays/foo
+
+The rationalle of the dual interface (firmware  direct copy) is that
each is
+better suited to different use patterns. The firmware interface is what's
+intended to be used by hardware managers in the kernel, while the
copy interface
+make sense for developers (since it avoids problems with namespaces).
That is really nice.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Processing (dev' language) on BBB

2014-12-11 Thread John Syn

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Date:  Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 6:31 AM
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Subject:  [beagleboard] Processing (dev' language) on BBB

 Hi All
 
 First post after getting a shiny new BBB and 4D touch screen cape in the post.
 I bought the combo based on how much faster it performs than the Pi I am used
 to developing on. Now it's arrived it appears that my dev' language of choice
 (Processing) doesn't run on it. I'm hoping there's someone out there that has
 a list of instructions as to how to get Processing installed and running.
 
 If Processing really is a no-go, what other language that does work on BBB
 would you suggest for fast 2D GUI creation and serial comms? Here's what I'm
 working on...
If you only want this to develop a GUI, then why not use QT? Using BBB with
LXQT will make your life a lot easier.

Regards,
John
 
 [YouTube Link] 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFo_5EBweX0list=UUaRxpScjomwuKmD6VVhhoEw
 
 ... as you can see it's an interactive touch screen interface that works
 nicely (but slowly) on the Pi. I'm really hoping the faster BBB and bigger
 screen will work with it!
 
 Hmm... thinking out loud... Maybe if I install the JDK on the BBB and I
 compile the Processing code on another machine, just transferring the
 executable over to the BBB?...
 
 Many thanks
 
 Rich
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Re: [beagleboard] Purpose of the GND_OSC zero ohm resistors?

2014-12-05 Thread John Syn

From:  Seth transistorbo...@gmail.com
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Date:  Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:07 AM
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Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Purpose of the GND_OSC zero ohm resistors?

 Thanks for the info, John. I thought it might have something to do with that.
 If I get a chance I'll have to pick up that book - thanks for the suggestion!
 
 I see in the earlier BBB designs the GND_OSC wasn't connected to the main
 DGND. Only later were they connected (via those zero ohm resistors), and that
 apparently helped the BBB function better. To me it seems that would introduce
 more switching noise (as John put it) than leaving them not connected to DGND.
 I guess I'm a little confused about John's use of the word isolated (If you
 don¹t isolate the OSC gnd...) - were you suggesting the zero ohm resistors
 acted as isolation from digital ground in this case?
 
 Gerald - do you mean that I could connect the GND_OSC net to the DGND net
 directly, or were you saying that I didn't need to connect those two at all
 (as in the earlier versions of the BBB)? What's the reason for having the
 resistors on the BBB if they're not needed? I was speculating that maybe you
 weren't initially sure if connecting the ground nets together would solve the
 ground bounce problem or maybe introduce worse problems, so you used those
 resistors to allow yourself the ability to leave them unpopulated in the event
 that it caused more issues than it solved (rather than re-spin new boards
 without the connection at all).
GND represents the return path for each signal, so DGND represents the
return path for digital circuits and GND_OSC represents the return path for
the OSC circuit. Ideally, you create a reference point (normally GND pin of
the power plug and then using a star topology, you connect to each of the
GND circuits, such as AGND, DGND, etc. This way, no GND circuit will see the
return current of the other circuits. Normally, the PCB layout software
won¹t allow you to connect nets of different names, so you use zero ohm
resistors to connect these nets on the PCB.

If GND_OSC isn¹t connected to DGND, then it will be connected inside the
chip and this isn¹t ideal. Measure the voltage signal between GND_OSC and
DGND with and without the zero ohm resistor. You will see the noise between
the two nets increase without the zero ohm resistor. BTW, the zero ohm
resistor isn¹t idea either and we normally have special schematic symbols
that allow us to connect two nets with different names. The PCB
representation is just a copper trace which connects the two nets together,
but most important is that you can move this copper trace so that it is
close to the reference point (normally the GND pin of the power connector).

Hope this helps. 

Regards,
John
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBone Black based module boards

2014-12-04 Thread John Syn

From:  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
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Date:  Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 11:06 AM
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Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBone Black based module boards

 Nobody. We just designed it.
Because he is such a great guy and we are all so thankful for his work ;-)

Regards,
John
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Bremenpl breme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I dont think I can afford that. So who hired you to make BeagleBone Black?
  
  
 W dniu 2014-12-04 o 19:55, Gerald Coley pisze:
  
  
  
 We are a non profit. We have no employees. Now, if you want to hire someone
 to design a board for you, that can be arranged.
 
  
  
 Gerald
  
 
  
  
  
 
  
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Bremenpl breme...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
 
 I understand. The Mentorel company seems to have exacly what I was looking
 for.
  It is to bad to hear that theres not enough employees there  I was hoping
 to see more great products.
  
  
  
 
 Dnia 4 grudnia 2014 16:30:44 Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
 napisał(a):
  
  
  
  
 I have no plans to get into the commercial module business.
 BeagleBoard.org has no employees to support such an arrangement.
  
  
   
 
  
  
 Gerald
  
  
 
  
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
 
  
  
  
   
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  Subject:  [beagleboard] BeagleBone Black based module boards
  
   
 
  
  
  
 Hello there,
  I was wondering either are is any board on the market that has the same
 hardware as BeagleBone Black (mcu, mmc, ethernet etc) but is designed as
 a module, with more I/Os and no connectors? Like those popular All winer
 A20 module boards. I would aprichiate any help.
  
   
 http://www.mentorel.com/product/usomiq-am335x/
   
  
 
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio Cape Rev B

2014-12-03 Thread John Syn

From:  Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 6:35 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and
Audio Cape Rev B

 Hi John,
 
 Have you tried to record with external microphone?
You have to bias the microphone, but the audio cape didn’t implement the
microphone bias circuitry so you will have to bias the microphone externally
for it to work. If you search for the TLV320AIC3106EVM schematic, you can
see how to bias the microphone.
 
 The recording works fine if I connect the Audio Cape directly to the speaker
 source (a tablet) with a male-to-male 3.5mm cable. In case of using external
 microphone, the Audacity Frequency Analysis shows there is no frequency that
 is higher than 3KHz.
 I tried the same test with USB Sound Card and it works fine.
I haven’t checked the audio bandwidth, but if I use a sampling rate of
96KHz, the audio quality sounds fine.
 
 Do you have some special setting for alsamixer?
The only settings I change is Press F4 for Capture, make “Line Line2 Bypass”
= 100 and “PGA” = 50

Here is the command I use:

arecord -c1 -f S32_LE -r 96000 -t wav -vv test.wav
or
aplay -C -c1 -f S32_LE -r 96000 -t wav -vv test.wav

I use the second command because my debugger gets confused when loading
alsa-util debug symbols. After all, arecord is just a soft link to aplay.

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks,
 Dustin
 
 On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:10:12 AM UTC+7, john3909 wrote:
 
 On 12/1/14, 10:27 AM, Nicolae Rosia nicola...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
 
 Hello, 
  
 The clock is wrong. For some reason the clock clock rate is not
 changed to 12MHz as set in dts file but to 24MHz (ti,codec-clock-rate
 = 1200;).
 If you change the clock to 24MHz in your dts, it will work as expected.
 I¹m not sure that is how this is supposed to work. Surely the DTS defines
 the clock rate rather than reflecting the clock rate? My guess is that the
 ALSA subsystem is reading the DTS codec-clock-rate, but the MCASP_AHCLKX
 isn¹t been set correctly by the MCASP code and simply defaulting to 24MHz.
 
 Regards, 
 John 
  
 Regards, 
 Nicolae Rosia.
  
 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Dien Nguyen
 nguyentie...@gmail.com javascript:  wrote:
  Hi Jesse, 
  
  Tried out with 48KHz, same issue occurred. Have you recorded and played
  successfully with any kernel version?
  
  Thanks, 
  Dustin 
  
  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jesse Cobra jesse...@gmail.com
 javascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Curious what happens if you try 48k sampling?
  
  On Nov 30, 2014 9:37 PM, Dien Nguyen nguyentie...@gmail.com
 javascript: 
  wrote: 
  
  Hi John,
  
  Did you solve the issue yet, may you please share how to fix it? We
 also 
  tried with 3.18 and the issue is still there.
  
  Thanks,
  Dustin 
  
  On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM, John Syn john...@gmail.com
 javascript:  wrote:
  
  
  From: Dien Nguyen nguyentie...@gmail.com javascript: 
  Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
  Date: Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM
  To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
  Subject: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black
and 
  Audio Cape Rev B
  
  
  Hi All,
  
  We tried the Audio Cape Rev B with BeagleBone Black. The kernel
 version
  is 3.14.17 (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel.git branch
  am33x-v3.14)
  
  We was able to play and record via the Audio Cape. If we record
and 
 play 
  the file via the Audio Cape, it works fine. But when we move the
 recorded
  file to other machine or play it via the USB Sound Card, the speed
 of the
  recorded file seems 1.5 time slower than it really is.
  
  On the board, we recorded the audio with
  arecord -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
  
  Then, we playback the file with command
  aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
  
  1/ On x86 machine, the voice become very slow. If we change the
 sampling
  rate to 63000, it is played close to the real voice we recorded.
  2/ Trying with a USB Sound Card plugged directly to the board.
  aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 -D plughw:1,0 /tmp/1.raw
  We saw the same issue as seen on x86 machine
  
  It seems that there is something wrong with the sampling rate
 clock. 
 May 
  anyone please give some suggestions
  
  I¹ve seen the same problem when recording on the BBB and then
 playing 
  the same file on my Ubuntu Desktop. Not sure why this happens. I¹m
 using 
  3.15.10-bone8.
  
  Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBone Black based module boards

2014-12-03 Thread John Syn

From:  bremenpl breme...@gmail.com
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Date:  Wednesday, December 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] BeagleBone Black based module boards

 Hello there,
 I was wondering either are is any board on the market that has the same
 hardware as BeagleBone Black (mcu, mmc, ethernet etc) but is designed as a
 module, with more I/Os and no connectors? Like those popular All winer A20
 module boards. I would aprichiate any help.
http://www.mentorel.com/product/usomiq-am335x/
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] LabVIEW on windows beagle board

2014-12-02 Thread John Syn

From:  Jason Kridner jkrid...@beagleboard.org
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Date:  Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] LabVIEW on windows beagle board

 While it isn't possible to run LABview directly, you can create VIs that talk
 to a BeagleBone Black using Botspeak:
 http://botspeak.org/supported-platforms/beaglebone/ and
 http://beagleboard.org/project/botspeak
 
 Some additional development has been on-going to move Botspeak to the PRUs
 (see PRUSpeak).
 
 I've heard some other efforts have been done, but nothing I know to report.
Labview Embedded has a C code generator which creates a C file for the
project which is then compiled for ARM. I worked on this years ago and
managed to get this working on a Beagleboard-xM. I even managed to get a
graphical GUI working, but the quality wasn¹t very good.

Regards,
John
 
 Let us know if this helps.
 
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, David Funk dwf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I doubt if it will run.
 
 LabVIEW uses x86 code, BBB runs on an ARM.
 
 
 
 -david
 .
 
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Swain, Brendan Lee
 bubbalu3...@email.tamu.edu wrote:
 To whom it may concern,
 I am a student at a university in Texas. We are trying to find a simple way
 to run our LabVIEW programming for our flow loop that we want to be pretty
 autonomous. I was wondering if the Beagle bone with windows would be capable
 of running LabVIEW.
 Thanks,
 Brendan Swain
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Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio Cape Rev B

2014-12-01 Thread John Syn

From:  Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and
Audio Cape Rev B

 Hi John,
 
 Did you solve the issue yet, may you please share how to fix it? We also tried
 with 3.18 and the issue is still there.
I never really looked into the issue because it wasn¹t important to me. As
long as I could record and playback on the BBB, I was OK, but I did notice
the issue when I recorded on the BBB and then played back on my Ubuntu
desktop. I looked at the schematics and I see that GPIO3_21 (AUD_MCLK) is
driven by either Y4 (24.576MHz) or MCASP0_AHCLKX. So I did a few
measurements and AUD_MCLK is always 24MHz no matter what the sampling rate.
In the DTS the codec-clock-rate is shown as 1200 so this doesn¹t make
any sense. Perhaps the MCASP code isn¹t reading this number correctly and is
defaulting to 24MHz.

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks,
 Dustin
 
 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio
 Cape Rev B
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 We tried the Audio Cape Rev B with BeagleBone Black. The kernel version is
 3.14.17 (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel.git branch am33x-v3.14)
 
 We was able to play and record via the Audio Cape. If we record and play the
 file via the Audio Cape, it works fine. But when we move the recorded file
 to other machine or play it via the USB Sound Card, the speed of the
 recorded file seems 1.5 time slower than it really is.
 
 On the board, we recorded the audio with
 arecord -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 Then, we playback the file with command
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 1/ On x86 machine, the voice become very slow. If we change the sampling
 rate to 63000, it is played close to the real voice we recorded.
 2/ Trying with a USB Sound Card plugged directly to the board.
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 -D plughw:1,0 /tmp/1.raw
 We saw the same issue as seen on x86 machine
 
 It seems that there is something wrong with the sampling rate clock. May
 anyone please give some suggestions
 I¹ve seen the same problem when recording on the BBB and then playing the
 same file on my Ubuntu Desktop. Not sure why this happens. I¹m using
 3.15.10-bone8. 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio Cape Rev B

2014-12-01 Thread John Syn

From:  Jesse Cobra jesseco...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 11:05 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and
Audio Cape Rev B

 
 Curious what happens if you try 48k sampling?

I get the same results.

Regards,
John
 On Nov 30, 2014 9:37 PM, Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi John,
 
 Did you solve the issue yet, may you please share how to fix it? We also
 tried with 3.18 and the issue is still there.
 
 Thanks,
 Dustin
 
 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio
 Cape Rev B
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 We tried the Audio Cape Rev B with BeagleBone Black. The kernel version is
 3.14.17 (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel.git branch am33x-v3.14)
 
 We was able to play and record via the Audio Cape. If we record and play
 the file via the Audio Cape, it works fine. But when we move the recorded
 file to other machine or play it via the USB Sound Card, the speed of the
 recorded file seems 1.5 time slower than it really is.
 
 On the board, we recorded the audio with
 arecord -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 Then, we playback the file with command
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 1/ On x86 machine, the voice become very slow. If we change the sampling
 rate to 63000, it is played close to the real voice we recorded.
 2/ Trying with a USB Sound Card plugged directly to the board.
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 -D plughw:1,0 /tmp/1.raw
 We saw the same issue as seen on x86 machine
 
 It seems that there is something wrong with the sampling rate clock. May
 anyone please give some suggestions
 I¹ve seen the same problem when recording on the BBB and then playing the
 same file on my Ubuntu Desktop. Not sure why this happens. I¹m using
 3.15.10-bone8. 
 
 Regards,
 John
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio Cape Rev B

2014-12-01 Thread John Syn

On 12/1/14, 10:27 AM, Nicolae Rosia nicolae.ro...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

The clock is wrong. For some reason the clock clock rate is not
changed to 12MHz as set in dts file but to 24MHz (ti,codec-clock-rate
= 1200;).
If you change the clock to 24MHz in your dts, it will work as expected.
I¹m not sure that is how this is supposed to work. Surely the DTS defines
the clock rate rather than reflecting the clock rate? My guess is that the
ALSA subsystem is reading the DTS codec-clock-rate, but the MCASP_AHCLKX
isn¹t been set correctly by the MCASP code and simply defaulting to 24MHz.

Regards,
John

Regards,
Nicolae Rosia.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Dien Nguyen
nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jesse,

 Tried out with 48KHz, same issue occurred. Have you recorded and played
 successfully with any kernel version?

 Thanks,
 Dustin

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jesse Cobra jesseco...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Curious what happens if you try 48k sampling?

 On Nov 30, 2014 9:37 PM, Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi John,

 Did you solve the issue yet, may you please share how to fix it? We
also
 tried with 3.18 and the issue is still there.

 Thanks,
 Dustin

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:29 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:


 From: Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM
 To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and
 Audio Cape Rev B


 Hi All,

 We tried the Audio Cape Rev B with BeagleBone Black. The kernel
version
 is 3.14.17 (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel.git branch
 am33x-v3.14)

 We was able to play and record via the Audio Cape. If we record and
play
 the file via the Audio Cape, it works fine. But when we move the
recorded
 file to other machine or play it via the USB Sound Card, the speed
of the
 recorded file seems 1.5 time slower than it really is.

 On the board, we recorded the audio with
 arecord -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw

 Then, we playback the file with command
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw

 1/ On x86 machine, the voice become very slow. If we change the
sampling
 rate to 63000, it is played close to the real voice we recorded.
 2/ Trying with a USB Sound Card plugged directly to the board.
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 -D plughw:1,0 /tmp/1.raw
 We saw the same issue as seen on x86 machine

 It seems that there is something wrong with the sampling rate clock.
May
 anyone please give some suggestions

 I¹ve seen the same problem when recording on the BBB and then playing
 the same file on my Ubuntu Desktop. Not sure why this happens. I¹m
using
 3.15.10-bone8.

 Regards,
 John


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Re: [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio Cape Rev B

2014-11-30 Thread John Syn

From:  Dien Nguyen nguyentienhoangd...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Audio capture issue with BeagleBone Black and Audio
Cape Rev B

 
 Hi All,
 
 We tried the Audio Cape Rev B with BeagleBone Black. The kernel version is
 3.14.17 (https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel.git branch am33x-v3.14)
 
 We was able to play and record via the Audio Cape. If we record and play the
 file via the Audio Cape, it works fine. But when we move the recorded file to
 other machine or play it via the USB Sound Card, the speed of the recorded
 file seems 1.5 time slower than it really is.
 
 On the board, we recorded the audio with
 arecord -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 Then, we playback the file with command
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 /tmp/1.raw
 
 1/ On x86 machine, the voice become very slow. If we change the sampling rate
 to 63000, it is played close to the real voice we recorded.
 2/ Trying with a USB Sound Card plugged directly to the board.
 aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r 44100 -D plughw:1,0 /tmp/1.raw
 We saw the same issue as seen on x86 machine
 
 It seems that there is something wrong with the sampling rate clock. May
 anyone please give some suggestions
I¹ve seen the same problem when recording on the BBB and then playing the
same file on my Ubuntu Desktop. Not sure why this happens. I¹m using
3.15.10-bone8. 

Regards,
John
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

2014-11-29 Thread John Syn

On 11/29/14, 7:50 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley napper...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?

 Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
packages via
 an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
 (Trusty).

So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
 So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
 which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
 CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good
comparison.

So over thanksgiving i let my quad wand do the same task:

omap5_uevm: (i was also building cloud9 during week, let's say 95% of
the time was openjdk)
Build needed 38:19:47, 6215244k disc space

wand quad: (i was out of state while this was running, so 100% core
usage..)
Build needed 50:06:26, 6215460k disc space

The dual a15's come out to 30% faster then the quad a9's...
Interesting.

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a15.php

In this article, ARM says the CortexA15 is 2X performance compared to the
CortexA9, so 2xA15 = 4xA9; however, the OMAP5432 is running at 1.5MHz and
the Wandboard running at 1MHz, so given that, I would expect the OMAP5 to
be about 50% faster. Clearly Debian are running much slower hardware.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Purpose of the GND_OSC zero ohm resistors?

2014-11-28 Thread John Syn

From:  Seth transistorbo...@gmail.com
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Date:  Friday, November 28, 2014 at 4:32 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Purpose of the GND_OSC zero ohm resistors?

 I'm looking at making my own version of the BBB for a custom project. I see a
 note on Revision A6: Noise issues were observed in other designs where the
 clock oscillator was getting hit due to a suspected issue in ground bounce. A
 zero ohm resistor was added to connect the OSC_GND to the system ground. A
 second resistor was added in the next revision to the 32kHz crystal circuit.
 
 Could the GND_OSC nets be tied directly to DGND without zero ohm resistors?
 Was the resistor used just in case the change caused problems and could be
 left unpopulated if so? I see no issues in further revisions so I'd assume
 that these changes fixed the issue, is that right? I'm asking because I
 suspect there might be another reason why resistors were used instead of just
 direct traces (like needing a 'single connection point' type of thing). Some
 clarification would be helpful indeed.
This is standard high speed digital layout design. If you don¹t isolate the
OSC gnd, the PCB layout package will just flood all the gnd copper and then
you will have digital switching noise traverse your OSC gnd and that will
cause all kinds of problems. The concept is covered in books like High
Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic² by Howard Johnson.

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks,
 -Seth
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

2014-11-26 Thread John Syn

On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley napper...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?

 Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
packages via
 an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
 (Trusty).

So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good comparison.

Regards,
John

http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/

Built for jessie:

sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver problem?)

2014-11-26 Thread John Syn

From:  Nick Apperley napper...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: JavaFX 8 on BeagleBone Black (SGX driver
problem?)

 Wonder what it would be like to create an OpenJDK 8 build using a lower end
 Beagleboard X15 (the one that is currently in the design phase).
The ARM performance of the AM572x will have a similar performance to the
OMAP5. Both are Dual CortexA15 running at 1.5GHz. However, the DSP on the
AM572x is faster than the DSP on the OMAP5 and the AM572x has two DSPs.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Thursday, 27 November 2014 15:04:46 UTC+13, Nick Apperley  wrote:
 No wonder the OMAP5 is so much more grunty.
 
 On Thursday, 27 November 2014 14:58:51 UTC+13, liyaoshi  wrote:
 Cortex-A15 dual cores
 
 2014-11-27 9:45 GMT+08:00 Nick Apperley napp...@gmail.com:
 Curious. Which ARM CPU does the OMAP5 SoC use?
 
 
 On Thursday, 27 November 2014 09:38:48 UTC+13, john3909  wrote:
 
 On 11/26/14, 7:59 AM, Robert Nelson robert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Nick Apperley napp...@gmail.com
 wrote: 
  Can't see the OpenJDK 8 build. I take it the build failed?
  
  Have some fantastic news on the Ubuntu front. Various OpenJDK 8
 packages via
  an unofficial PPA are available for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise) and 14.04
  (Trusty).
  
 So it only took 38 hours 19 minutes. ;)
 So the Quad CortexA9 took 5 days (120 hours) and the OMAP5 took 38 hours
 which is more then 3X performance. My bet is the build was running all
 CPUs close to 100% for the entire build so this would be a good
 comparison. 
 
 Regards, 
 John 
  
 http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
 http://repos.rcn-ee.net/debian/pool/main/o/openjdk-8/
  
 Built for jessie:
  
 sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

2014-11-22 Thread John Syn

From:  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 6:30 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades
on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

 No plans to change the processor on the black. We are looking at a few
 enhancements. If they work out, it would be a different model.
 
 Only thing we have that would give a bit more performance is the
 BeagleBoard-X15.
Bit more performance? Just the ARM side will give you 5X performance and
that doesn¹t count the dual DSP, dual CortexM4 etc. By my count, X15 is a
screamer compared to the BBB ;-)

Regards,
John
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Ken trip...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am currently using BeagleBone Black and it's really good for low-power
 low-performance projects, however, since I'll be starting to use 3D and lots
 of screen overlays, I'm looking for a board like the BBB with better
 CPU/GPU/Bus.
 
 Are there any plans for these types of SoC or can anyone recommend any?
 
 Thanks
 Ken
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Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

2014-11-22 Thread John Syn

From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 3:32 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades
on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

 Its still not a media type platform with well support / existing drivers for
 video. So, if you want to do somethign like make a mini mame console, you're
 stuck with garbage like the PI, or better but more costly odroid stuff.
I had a conversation with the RPMSG/REMOTEPROC developers at TI and they do
have this working on the X15 processor, so video processing will be
possible. They plan to push this into mainline sometime in early 2015.

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:21 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 6:30 AM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades
 on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?
 
 No plans to change the processor on the black. We are looking at a few
 enhancements. If they work out, it would be a different model.
 
 Only thing we have that would give a bit more performance is the
 BeagleBoard-X15.
 Bit more performance? Just the ARM side will give you 5X performance and that
 doesn¹t count the dual DSP, dual CortexM4 etc. By my count, X15 is a screamer
 compared to the BBB ;-)
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Ken trip...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am currently using BeagleBone Black and it's really good for low-power
 low-performance projects, however, since I'll be starting to use 3D and
 lots of screen overlays, I'm looking for a board like the BBB with better
 CPU/GPU/Bus.
 
 Are there any plans for these types of SoC or can anyone recommend any?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

2014-11-22 Thread John Syn

From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 4:15 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades
on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?

 That would be nice, but I think I will be waiting on reputable feedback from
 the community before I make that leap - personally.
I hope this helps ;-)

https://www.mail-archive.com/beagleboard@googlegroups.com/msg20818.html

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 3:32 PM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus) upgrades
 on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?
 
 Its still not a media type platform with well support / existing drivers
 for video. So, if you want to do somethign like make a mini mame console,
 you're stuck with garbage like the PI, or better but more costly odroid
 stuff.
 I had a conversation with the RPMSG/REMOTEPROC developers at TI and they do
 have this working on the X15 processor, so video processing will be possible.
 They plan to push this into mainline sometime in early 2015.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:21 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From:  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
 Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Date:  Saturday, November 22, 2014 at 6:30 AM
 To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
 Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Any plans for performance (CPU/GPU/Bus)
 upgrades on the BeagleBone Black anytime soon?
 
 No plans to change the processor on the black. We are looking at a few
 enhancements. If they work out, it would be a different model.
 
 Only thing we have that would give a bit more performance is the
 BeagleBoard-X15.
 Bit more performance? Just the ARM side will give you 5X performance and
 that doesn¹t count the dual DSP, dual CortexM4 etc. By my count, X15 is a
 screamer compared to the BBB ;-)
 
 Regards,
 John
 
 Gerald
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Ken trip...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am currently using BeagleBone Black and it's really good for low-power
 low-performance projects, however, since I'll be starting to use 3D and
 lots of screen overlays, I'm looking for a board like the BBB with better
 CPU/GPU/Bus.
 
 Are there any plans for these types of SoC or can anyone recommend any?
 
 Thanks
 Ken
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBone PCB stackup

2014-11-20 Thread John Syn

From:  AnBer ant.bert...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 5:56 AM
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Cc:  siebel.andr...@googlemail.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBone PCB stackup

 Hi Gerald,
 
 Regarding PCB stackup, I loooked at the layer stackup defined in the BBB
 Altium PCB file.
 I can see that:
   - Top and bottom signal layers are 2.4 mil copper
   - Inner layers (signal and power planes) are 1.2 mil copper
 
 How much plating is there on top and bottom layer?
 Is 2.4 mils just copper or copper + plating?
 
 I am trying to do some pre-layout sim for a BBB and a cape and I need to model
 the PCB.
Numbers in Altium refer to the final thickness which is used for impedance
calculations. 

Regards,
John
 
 
 Thanks in advance
 Antbert
 
 
 On Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:00:30 AM UTC+1, manatarms wrote:
 Dear All 
 
 Does someone have the stackup of the BeagleBone PCB? I couldn't find
 it on the hardware design page and it would help many people who want
 to do their own design.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Running Labview

2014-11-19 Thread John Syn

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Date:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 at 3:34 PM
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Subject:  [beagleboard] Running Labview

 
 I currently use a windows based laptop to run labview developed software for
 an analytical instrument I am developing.  The software is basically a curve
 fitting program that records data, flattens the baseline and calculates peak
 areas and height.  I want to get rid of the laptop and simply put a processor
 in the instrument with a touch screen.  Is this possible with Beaglebone?
I had Labview working on Beagleboard-xM years ago, but the graphic display
was horrible. I don¹t recall the issue exactly, but their tool required a
specific graphical library which I managed to get working, but the quality
was very poor (artifacts, etc). Maybe things have improved since then. The
guy I worked with back then was Jaidev Amrite (jaidev.amr...@ni.com). I¹m
not even sure if he still works in the embedded LabView area, but perhaps he
can point you in the right directions.

Regards,
John
 
 Thanks,
 
 Philippe Dekleva
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Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Panic with eMMC flasher

2014-11-18 Thread John Syn

From:  William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
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Date:  Tuesday, November 18, 2014 at 7:02 PM
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Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Panic with eMMC flasher

 What I am trying to convey to you is that sync is never guaranteed. Ever.
Where do you get this from. Reference?

Regards,
John
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jason Lange j.b.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All you can do is:
 
 write data
 remove media.
 sync.
 
 write data
 sync
 and then remove media.
 
 That's all I'm really trying to convey.  dd does not sync by default.
 Unmounting from your gui should sync.  But might not if you've been sudo-ing
 things behind it's back. Once sync has completed you can safely remove it
 regardless of what some gui thinks is going on.
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBoard-X15 - seriously? :)

2014-11-16 Thread John Syn

On 11/16/14, 5:56 PM, +_+_rh_o_o richard_hubb...@lavabit.com wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:33:20 -0600
Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ha! I'm not definitely not frustrated. And as seen in other recent
  posts there are other features that may not get needed TI support.
 
 Seriously, spit it out, what feature?

Re-read this thread.


  And I don't care about the graphics. But since you're projecting
  I will say that the issue is with TI not imgtec. No one forced
  TI to use imgtec. Just like no one forced intel to use it when
  they decided on GMA500/Poulsbo.  But instead of crying about it
  an intel engineer decided to do a little heavy lifting and wrote
  a driver for GMA500.
 
 Umm, slightly different. Poulsbo also included the 2d engine, so with
 out GMA500 driver, no DISPLAY PERIOD.., in our case we can get video
 working on mainline, it's just the 3d offload we need the sgx bits
 for..
 

The blame goes to TI. They chose imgtec technology. The best and
most powerful message to imgtec would have been for TI to say
no thanks. But now any BBB owner pays imgtec wittingly or
unwittingly, but they still pay imgtec indirectly.

I guess it's another sign of the technological dark age where we all
now preside.
If you feel so strongly about this issue, then direct your efforts to make
a difference. Express your views on IMGTEC developer forums or contact
your TI rep or express your views on TI¹s E2E. We all agree that the lack
of Linux support for IMGTEC IP is a big issue but no one here can make a
difference. 

http://forum.imgtec.com/discussion/3394/linux-and-open-source


Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Labolatory power supply fails to power up BeagleBone Black

2014-11-14 Thread John Syn

From:  evilwulfie evilwul...@gmail.com
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Date:  Friday, November 14, 2014 at 5:48 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Labolatory power supply fails to power up
BeagleBone Black

 
  
 As Gerald has said before, check the ramp up of the power supply.
  Some of the lab supplys have slow ramp ups.
  Yes they are very stable and VERY good regulation but
  the BBB design requires a fast ramp up supply.
It could also be that he has current limit set too low. Set the current
limit to 2A or more. It would be helpful if we could see an oscilloscope
capture of the startup waveform.

Regards,
John
 
  
  
  
  On 11/14/2014 3:03 AM, bremenpl wrote:
  
  
  
 Hello there,
  I have a very strange problem with powering up BeagleBone Black (rev C)
 When i try to power it up from some cheap AC adapter it works fine, but when
 I connect to to my labolatory power supply the power LED on board is lid for
 a second and then doesnt power up the MCU and turns off intead. I have
 connected both supplys to osciloscope and they are both stable, the
 laboratory one even more. Why is the power controller on the BeagleBone Black
 refusing to power up the MCU when powered from lab supply? I have no idea
 what is this about. I would aprichiate any help.
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Custom Beaglebone black Audio cape with TLV320AIC3110

2014-11-14 Thread John Syn

From:  resandevinw...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 5:46 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Cc:  al...@webbelectronicsinc.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Custom Beaglebone black Audio cape with
TLV320AIC3110

 Hi,
 
 I am trying to design a cape with TLV320AIC3110 for Beaglebone black using
 I2c2 and Mcasp0. I have compiled the driver into the kernel and modified the
 device tree. This is my procedure.
 
 ubuntu@arm:~$ uname -r
 3.15.10-bone8
 
 1- Driver:
 I am using the driver in /sound/soc/codecs/tlc320aic31xx.c
 diff --git a/sound/soc/codecs/tlv320aic31xx.c
 b/sound/soc/codecs/tlv320aic31xx.c
 index d1929de..1c300a5 100644
 --- a/sound/soc/codecs/tlv320aic31xx.c
 +++ b/sound/soc/codecs/tlv320aic31xx.c
 @@ -19,7 +19,7 @@
   * high performance codec which provides a stereo DAC, a mono ADC,
   * and mono/stereo Class-D speaker driver.
   */
 -
 +#define DEBUG 
  #include linux/module.h
  #include linux/moduleparam.h
  #include linux/init.h
 
 2- Edit Kconfig
 diff --git a/sound/soc/codecs/Kconfig b/sound/soc/codecs/Kconfig
 index f0e8401..19036e3 100644
 --- a/sound/soc/codecs/Kconfig
 +++ b/sound/soc/codecs/Kconfig
 @@ -461,7 +461,8 @@ config SND_SOC_TLV320AIC26
 depends on SPI
  
  config SND_SOC_TLV320AIC31XX
 -tristate
 +tristate TI TLV320AIC31xx class D codecs
 +   depends on I2C
  
  config SND_SOC_TLV320AIC32X4
 tristate
 
 
 3- ALSA Machine Layer Configuration:
 Create a DAI (digital audio interface) Link structure. This should allow a
 specific configuration for the McASP to be called when Linux is directed to
 play audio to the TLV320AIC31XX. For Sitara McASP machine layer driver is
 found at sound/soc/davinci/davinci-evm.c
 
 diff --git a/sound/soc/davinci/davinci-evm.c b/sound/soc/davinci/davinci-evm.c
 index cab98a5..41db457 100644
 --- a/sound/soc/davinci/davinci-evm.c
 +++ b/sound/soc/davinci/davinci-evm.c
 @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
   * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2 as
   * published by the Free Software Foundation.
   */
 -
 +#define DEBUG
  #include linux/module.h
  #include linux/moduleparam.h
  #include linux/timer.h
 @@ -98,6 +98,13 @@ static const struct snd_soc_dapm_widget
 aic3x_dapm_widgets[]
 SND_SOC_DAPM_LINE(Line In, NULL),
  };
  
 +static const struct snd_soc_dapm_widget aic31xx_dapm_widgets[] = {
 +   SND_SOC_DAPM_HP(Headphone Jack, NULL),
 +   SND_SOC_DAPM_SPK(Speaker, NULL),
 +   SND_SOC_DAPM_MIC(Mic Jack, NULL),
 +};
 +
 +
  /* davinci-evm machine audio_mapnections to the codec pins */
  static const struct snd_soc_dapm_route audio_map[] = {
 /* Headphone connected to HPLOUT, HPROUT */
 @@ -120,6 +127,7 @@ static const struct snd_soc_dapm_route audio_map[] = {
 {LINE2R, NULL, Line In},
  };
  
 +
  /* Logic for a aic3x as connected on a davinci-evm */
  static int evm_aic3x_init(struct snd_soc_pcm_runtime *rtd)
  {
 @@ -150,6 +158,42 @@ static int evm_aic3x_init(struct snd_soc_pcm_runtime
 *rtd)
 return 0;
  }
  
 +/* Logic for a aic31xx as connected on a davinci-evm */
 +static int evm_aic31xx_init (struct snd_soc_pcm_runtime *rtd)
 +{
 +struct snd_soc_codec *codec = rtd-codec;
 +struct snd_soc_dapm_context *dapm = codec-dapm;
 +struct device_node *np = codec-card-dev-of_node;
 +int ret;
 +
 +/* Add davinci-evm specific widgets */
 +snd_soc_dapm_new_controls(dapm, aic31xx_dapm_widgets,
 +  ARRAY_SIZE(aic31xx_dapm_widgets));
 +
 +if (np) {
 +ret = snd_soc_of_parse_audio_routing(codec-card,
 ti,audio-rou
 +if (ret)
 +return ret;
 +} 
 +/*
 +else {
 +*/
 +/* Set up davinci-evm specific audio path audio_map */
 +/*
 +snd_soc_dapm_add_routes(card-dapm, audio_map,
 +ARRAY_SIZE(audio_map));
 +}
 +*/
 +/* not connected */
 +/*snd_soc_dapm_nc_pin(codec-dapm, MONO_LOUT);
 +snd_soc_dapm_nc_pin(codec-dapm, HPLCOM);
 +snd_soc_dapm_nc_pin(codec-dapm, HPRCOM);
 +*/
 +return 0;
 +}
 +
 +
 +
  /* davinci-evm digital audio interface glue - connects codec -- CPU */
  static struct snd_soc_dai_link dm6446_evm_dai = {
 .name = TLV320AIC3X,
 @@ -250,6 +294,8 @@ static struct snd_soc_dai_link da850_evm_dai = {
SND_SOC_DAIFMT_IB_NF,
  };
  
 +
 +
  /* davinci dm6446 evm audio machine driver */
  /*
   * ASP0 in DM6446 EVM is clocked by U55, as configured by
 @@ -343,16 +389,33 @@ static struct snd_soc_dai_link evm_dai_tlv320aic3x = {
 .stream_name= AIC3X,
 .codec_dai_name = tlv320aic3x-hifi,
 .ops= evm_ops,
 -   .init   = evm_aic3x_init,
 +.init   = evm_aic3x_init,
 .dai_fmt = SND_SOC_DAIFMT_DSP_B | 

[beagleboard] Kernel Level Optimization O1

2014-11-14 Thread John Syn
I¹m using V3.15.10-bone8 kernel with Debian Image 2014-10-08.

I trying to debug a device driver which is built into the kernel to
simplify debugging. Building the kernel with O2 optimization makes single
stepping difficult so I changed the compiler optimization to O1 in
Makefile, but now Debian won¹t boot properly. Anyone have an idea why
changing the compiler optimization breaks OS startup? BTW, building the
kernel with O2 optimization boots just fine. Here is the bootlog:

Starting kernel ...

[0.00] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
[0.00] Linux version 3.15.10-bone8 (john@DX58SO) (gcc version
4.8.3 20140401 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-4.8-2014.04 -
Linaro GCC 4.8-2014.04) ) #2 Fri Nov 14 17:32:17 PST 2014
[0.00] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7),
cr=50c5387d
[0.00] CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing
instruction cache
[0.00] Machine model: TI AM335x BeagleBone
[0.00] Memory policy: Data cache writeback
[0.00] CPU: All CPU(s) started in SVC mode.
[0.00] AM335X ES2.0 (sgx neon )
[0.00] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.
Total pages: 129792
[0.00] Kernel command line: console=ttyO0,115200n8 root=/dev/nfs
rw rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
nfsroot=10.100.116.73:/home/john/targetNFS,vers=3
ip=10.100.116.105:10.100.116.73:10.100.f
[0.00] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
[0.00] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144
bytes)
[0.00] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072
bytes)
[0.00] allocated 1048576 bytes of page_cgroup
[0.00] please try 'cgroup_disable=memory' option if you don't want
memory cgroups
[0.00] Memory: 506528K/523264K available (5866K kernel code, 605K
rwdata, 3216K rodata, 330K init, 982K bss, 16736K reserved, 0K highmem)
[0.00] Virtual kernel memory layout:
[0.00] vector  : 0x - 0x1000   (   4 kB)
[0.00] fixmap  : 0xfff0 - 0xfffe   ( 896 kB)
[0.00] vmalloc : 0xe080 - 0xff00   ( 488 MB)
[0.00] lowmem  : 0xc000 - 0xe000   ( 512 MB)
[0.00] pkmap   : 0xbfe0 - 0xc000   (   2 MB)
[0.00] modules : 0xbf80 - 0xbfe0   (   6 MB)
[0.00]   .text : 0xc0008000 - 0xc08e6a70   (9083 kB)
[0.00]   .init : 0xc08e7000 - 0xc0939b80   ( 331 kB)
[0.00]   .data : 0xc093a000 - 0xc09d1488   ( 606 kB)
[0.00].bss : 0xc09d1488 - 0xc0ac706c   ( 983 kB)
[0.00] SLUB: HWalign=64, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=1, Nodes=1
[0.00] NR_IRQS:16 nr_irqs:16 16
[0.00] IRQ: Found an INTC at 0xfa20 (revision 5.0) with 128
interrupts
[0.00] Total of 128 interrupts on 1 active controller
[0.00] OMAP clockevent source: timer2 at 2400 Hz
[0.10] sched_clock: 32 bits at 24MHz, resolution 41ns, wraps every
178956969942ns
[0.28] OMAP clocksource: timer1 at 2400 Hz
[0.000186] Console: colour dummy device 80x30
[0.000209] Calibrating delay loop... 996.14 BogoMIPS (lpj=4980736)
[0.089539] pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301
[0.089607] Security Framework initialized
[0.089682] AppArmor: AppArmor disabled by boot time parameter
[0.089689] Yama: becoming mindful.
[0.089858] Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
[0.089869] Mountpoint-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096
bytes)
[0.090357] Initializing cgroup subsys memory
[0.090385] Initializing cgroup subsys devices
[0.090395] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer
[0.090405] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls
[0.090413] Initializing cgroup subsys blkio
[0.090420] Initializing cgroup subsys perf_event
[0.090464] CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok
[0.090753] Setting up static identity map for 0x80574140 - 0x8057418c
[0.093825] devtmpfs: initialized
[0.095462] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30
variant c rev 3
[0.100956] omap_hwmod: tptc0 using broken dt data from edma
[0.101025] omap_hwmod: tptc1 using broken dt data from edma
[0.101084] omap_hwmod: tptc2 using broken dt data from edma
[0.157535] xor: measuring software checksum speed
[0.249512]arm4regs  :  1247.200 MB/sec
[0.349512]8regs :   867.600 MB/sec
[0.449510]32regs:   890.800 MB/sec
[0.549509]neon  :  1697.200 MB/sec
[0.549517] xor: using function: neon (1697.200 MB/sec)
[0.549533] pinctrl core: initialized pinctrl subsystem
[0.549882] regulator-dummy: no parameters
[0.557028] NET: Registered protocol family 16
[0.557603] DMA: preallocated 256 KiB pool for atomic coherent
allocations
[0.558242] 

Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Level Optimization O1

2014-11-14 Thread John Syn

From:  Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, November 14, 2014 at 7:50 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Level Optimization O1

 The kernel has to be compiled with -O2 or more:
 http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.4/html/x208.html
Thanks Przemek , but this article is for Kernel Modules and not for the
kernel. Perhaps something has changed, but I recall years ago that I was
able to compile the kernel with O1, but not with O0.

Regards,
John
 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:16 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 I¹m using V3.15.10-bone8 kernel with Debian Image 2014-10-08.
 
 I trying to debug a device driver which is built into the kernel to
 simplify debugging. Building the kernel with O2 optimization makes single
 stepping difficult so I changed the compiler optimization to O1 in
 Makefile, but now Debian won¹t boot properly. Anyone have an idea why
 changing the compiler optimization breaks OS startup? BTW, building the
 kernel with O2 optimization boots just fine. Here is the bootlog:
 
 Starting kernel ...
 
 [0.00] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
 [0.00] Linux version 3.15.10-bone8 (john@DX58SO) (gcc version
 4.8.3 20140401 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-4.8-2014.04
 tel:1.13.1-4.8-2014.04  -
 Linaro GCC 4.8-2014.04) ) #2 Fri Nov 14 17:32:17 PST 2014
 [0.00] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7),
 cr=50c5387d
 [0.00] CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing
 instruction cache
 [0.00] Machine model: TI AM335x BeagleBone
 [0.00] Memory policy: Data cache writeback
 [0.00] CPU: All CPU(s) started in SVC mode.
 [0.00] AM335X ES2.0 (sgx neon )
 [0.00] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.
 Total pages: 129792
 [0.00] Kernel command line: console=ttyO0,115200n8 root=/dev/nfs
 rw rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
 nfsroot=10.100.116.73:/home/john/targetNFS,vers=3
 ip=10.100.116.105:10.100.116.73:10.100.f
 [0.00] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
 [0.00] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144
 bytes)
 [0.00] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072
 bytes)
 [0.00] allocated 1048576 bytes of page_cgroup
 [0.00] please try 'cgroup_disable=memory' option if you don't want
 memory cgroups
 [0.00] Memory: 506528K/523264K available (5866K kernel code, 605K
 rwdata, 3216K rodata, 330K init, 982K bss, 16736K reserved, 0K highmem)
 [0.00] Virtual kernel memory layout:
 [0.00] vector  : 0x - 0x1000   (   4 kB)
 [0.00] fixmap  : 0xfff0 - 0xfffe   ( 896 kB)
 [0.00] vmalloc : 0xe080 - 0xff00   ( 488 MB)
 [0.00] lowmem  : 0xc000 - 0xe000   ( 512 MB)
 [0.00] pkmap   : 0xbfe0 - 0xc000   (   2 MB)
 [0.00] modules : 0xbf80 - 0xbfe0   (   6 MB)
 [0.00]   .text : 0xc0008000 - 0xc08e6a70   (9083 kB)
 [0.00]   .init : 0xc08e7000 - 0xc0939b80   ( 331 kB)
 [0.00]   .data : 0xc093a000 - 0xc09d1488   ( 606 kB)
 [0.00].bss : 0xc09d1488 - 0xc0ac706c   ( 983 kB)
 [0.00] SLUB: HWalign=64, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=1, Nodes=1
 [0.00] NR_IRQS:16 nr_irqs:16 16
 [0.00] IRQ: Found an INTC at 0xfa20 (revision 5.0) with 128
 interrupts
 [0.00] Total of 128 interrupts on 1 active controller
 [0.00] OMAP clockevent source: timer2 at 2400 Hz
 [0.10] sched_clock: 32 bits at 24MHz, resolution 41ns, wraps every
 178956969942ns
 [0.28] OMAP clocksource: timer1 at 2400 Hz
 [0.000186] Console: colour dummy device 80x30
 [0.000209] Calibrating delay loop... 996.14 BogoMIPS (lpj=4980736)
 [0.089539] pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301
 [0.089607] Security Framework initialized
 [0.089682] AppArmor: AppArmor disabled by boot time parameter
 [0.089689] Yama: becoming mindful.
 [0.089858] Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
 [0.089869] Mountpoint-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096
 bytes)
 [0.090357] Initializing cgroup subsys memory
 [0.090385] Initializing cgroup subsys devices
 [0.090395] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer
 [0.090405] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls
 [0.090413] Initializing cgroup subsys blkio
 [0.090420] Initializing cgroup subsys perf_event
 [0.090464] CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok
 [0.090753] Setting up static identity map for 0x80574140 - 0x8057418c
 [0.093825] devtmpfs: initialized
 [0.095462] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41

Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Level Optimization O1

2014-11-14 Thread John Syn

From:  Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Friday, November 14, 2014 at 7:50 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Kernel Level Optimization O1

 The kernel has to be compiled with -O2 or more:
 http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.4/html/x208.html
Instead of using NFS, I used an SDCard and it booted just fine with O1
optimization. Strange.

Regards,
John
 
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:16 PM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 I¹m using V3.15.10-bone8 kernel with Debian Image 2014-10-08.
 
 I trying to debug a device driver which is built into the kernel to
 simplify debugging. Building the kernel with O2 optimization makes single
 stepping difficult so I changed the compiler optimization to O1 in
 Makefile, but now Debian won¹t boot properly. Anyone have an idea why
 changing the compiler optimization breaks OS startup? BTW, building the
 kernel with O2 optimization boots just fine. Here is the bootlog:
 
 Starting kernel ...
 
 [0.00] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
 [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
 [0.00] Linux version 3.15.10-bone8 (john@DX58SO) (gcc version
 4.8.3 20140401 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-4.8-2014.04
 tel:1.13.1-4.8-2014.04  -
 Linaro GCC 4.8-2014.04) ) #2 Fri Nov 14 17:32:17 PST 2014
 [0.00] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7),
 cr=50c5387d
 [0.00] CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing
 instruction cache
 [0.00] Machine model: TI AM335x BeagleBone
 [0.00] Memory policy: Data cache writeback
 [0.00] CPU: All CPU(s) started in SVC mode.
 [0.00] AM335X ES2.0 (sgx neon )
 [0.00] Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.
 Total pages: 129792
 [0.00] Kernel command line: console=ttyO0,115200n8 root=/dev/nfs
 rw rootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
 nfsroot=10.100.116.73:/home/john/targetNFS,vers=3
 ip=10.100.116.105:10.100.116.73:10.100.f
 [0.00] PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
 [0.00] Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144
 bytes)
 [0.00] Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072
 bytes)
 [0.00] allocated 1048576 bytes of page_cgroup
 [0.00] please try 'cgroup_disable=memory' option if you don't want
 memory cgroups
 [0.00] Memory: 506528K/523264K available (5866K kernel code, 605K
 rwdata, 3216K rodata, 330K init, 982K bss, 16736K reserved, 0K highmem)
 [0.00] Virtual kernel memory layout:
 [0.00] vector  : 0x - 0x1000   (   4 kB)
 [0.00] fixmap  : 0xfff0 - 0xfffe   ( 896 kB)
 [0.00] vmalloc : 0xe080 - 0xff00   ( 488 MB)
 [0.00] lowmem  : 0xc000 - 0xe000   ( 512 MB)
 [0.00] pkmap   : 0xbfe0 - 0xc000   (   2 MB)
 [0.00] modules : 0xbf80 - 0xbfe0   (   6 MB)
 [0.00]   .text : 0xc0008000 - 0xc08e6a70   (9083 kB)
 [0.00]   .init : 0xc08e7000 - 0xc0939b80   ( 331 kB)
 [0.00]   .data : 0xc093a000 - 0xc09d1488   ( 606 kB)
 [0.00].bss : 0xc09d1488 - 0xc0ac706c   ( 983 kB)
 [0.00] SLUB: HWalign=64, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=1, Nodes=1
 [0.00] NR_IRQS:16 nr_irqs:16 16
 [0.00] IRQ: Found an INTC at 0xfa20 (revision 5.0) with 128
 interrupts
 [0.00] Total of 128 interrupts on 1 active controller
 [0.00] OMAP clockevent source: timer2 at 2400 Hz
 [0.10] sched_clock: 32 bits at 24MHz, resolution 41ns, wraps every
 178956969942ns
 [0.28] OMAP clocksource: timer1 at 2400 Hz
 [0.000186] Console: colour dummy device 80x30
 [0.000209] Calibrating delay loop... 996.14 BogoMIPS (lpj=4980736)
 [0.089539] pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301
 [0.089607] Security Framework initialized
 [0.089682] AppArmor: AppArmor disabled by boot time parameter
 [0.089689] Yama: becoming mindful.
 [0.089858] Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
 [0.089869] Mountpoint-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096
 bytes)
 [0.090357] Initializing cgroup subsys memory
 [0.090385] Initializing cgroup subsys devices
 [0.090395] Initializing cgroup subsys freezer
 [0.090405] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls
 [0.090413] Initializing cgroup subsys blkio
 [0.090420] Initializing cgroup subsys perf_event
 [0.090464] CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok
 [0.090753] Setting up static identity map for 0x80574140 - 0x8057418c
 [0.093825] devtmpfs: initialized
 [0.095462] VFP support v0.3: implementor 41 architecture 3 part 30
 variant c rev 3
 [0.100956] omap_hwmod: tptc0 using broken dt data from edma

Re: [beagleboard] Re: beagle bone black schematics and board design

2014-11-13 Thread John Syn

From:  llipsch...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 1:17 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] Re: beagle bone black schematics and board design

 Trust me, i don't want to either, and will likely not be forever- However, it
 cannot get the translation right, I won't be using it at all.
Here is a low cost schematic/pcb package offered by Digikey. Looks
interesting. 

http://www.digikey.com/designer

Regards, 
John
 
 
 On Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:58:00 PM UTC-5, Travis Estep wrote:
 I work in Altium and Eagle both. This board is not the kind of board I would
 want to work on in Eagle. Not even for small changes. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: [beagleboard] BBB Standby when press power button ?

2014-11-13 Thread John Syn

From:  Minh Phuong Dang phuongminh.d...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 7:59 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  [beagleboard] BBB Standby when press power button ?

 Hello,
 
   Ho to let BBB standby and wake up by pressing power button ?
   I want to make a hand held device using BBB with Li-ion battery
   and I want power button acts like smart phone device does.
Won¹t be possible until PMIC subsystem is fixed which I¹m told is scheduled
for V3.19.

Regards,
John
 
   Now I'm using :
   
  Android : TI-Android-JB-4.2.2-DevKit-4.1.1
  Kernel   : linux-3.2.0

   Thank you very much.
 
   Phuong Dang
  
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBoard-X15 - seriously? :)

2014-11-12 Thread John Syn

From:  Emmanuel Fusté manu.fu...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Monday, November 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBoard-X15 - seriously? :)

 
 Look at the recently submited mail box subsystem.

Please share a link

 Le 10 nov. 2014 21:25, John Syn john3...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 On 11/10/14, 10:58 AM, Nishanth Menon n...@ti.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:54 AM, John Syn john3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 11/10/14, 1:15 AM, Jason Kridner jkrid...@beagleboard.org wrote:
 
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Maxim Podbereznyy lisar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  John Syn,
  Wandboard Quad does have 64 bit memory bus.
 
  P.S. I don't know who needs dual DSP onboard because TI definitely
 will
 not
  support them as should like it was for omap3/dm37. I'd better have
 well
  supported hardware video encoder/decoder rather than double general
 purpose
  DSPs without any software support
 
 When OMAP3 came out, the only compilers for C6000 were expensive,
 closed-source compilers. Now, there is support in mainline GCC for
 C6000. As the BeagleBoard.org community, we have to work together to
 enable use of the DSPs if they are of interest to the
 community---there aren't any barriers in our way.
  The TI C6000 does some amazing pipeline optimization, which seems to be
  missing from the GCC compiler. Anyway, using CCSV6 is no big deal, but
  support for RPMSG/REMOTEPROC on this processor is a big issue. The
 source
  is difficult to follow and my guess is we would need input from the
  original authors to do this work.
 
 Why dont we get involved in linux-omap discussions on the topic? most
 of the rpmsg and remote proc discussions do take place in kernel
 mailing list. usually discussing in context helps move patches forward
 since it makes it clear to certain maintainers that these things are
 important and help community.
 
 
 Do you have anything specific that you are concerned about?
 Looking at git.ti.com/rpmsg/rpmsg http://git.ti.com/rpmsg/rpmsg , I don¹t
 see any support for AM572x
 processors. Also, Beagleboard-X15 is to be released with Kernel V3.18 but
 I don¹t see support for this kernel versions. Last I heard, RPMSG was
 working on OMAP4, but not fully implemented on OMAP5, but this was a while
 ago and perhaps this has changed. Perhaps Suman can give us an update.
 Similar concerns about REMOTEPROC. What I know is that I have been pushing
 this issue on the beta list and the only feedback I received was that
 RPMSG/REMOTEPROC was in a SW blackhole².
 
 Based on the TRM, this processor looks extremely attractive, and we need
 RPMSG/REMOTEPROC to take advantage of the powerful dual DSPs and dual
 CortexM4s.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Recommendation to boot / resume Linux in less than a second...

2014-11-12 Thread John Syn

From:  Jean-Pierre Poulin jeanpierrepou...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, November 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: Recommendation to boot / resume Linux in
less than a second...

 Q: Have you guys ever tried reducing boot-times through a hibernate-based
 solution?  (e.g. Warp)  How do these stackup versus efforts to fast-boot Linux
 as detailed in this thread?
This won¹t work at this time:

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg109331.html

Regards,
John
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:13:20 PM UTC-5, Jean-Pierre Poulin wrote:
 Supercool.  We're hoping to reduce boot-time by using open-source based
 solutions so following the latest systemd-based efforts appears as the next
 logical step.  Thanks a bunch for that useful advice!!
 
 On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:07:19 AM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:
 Then Lennart released systemd and really just blew them out of the water...
 
 I did see a demo of timesys showing off something that booted even
 faster then systemd, but you'll pay lots of $ for it.
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Recommendation to boot / resume Linux in less than a second...

2014-11-12 Thread John Syn

On 11/12/14, 1:45 PM, Nishanth Menon n...@ti.com wrote:

On 11/12/2014 01:10 PM, John Syn wrote:

 Q: Have you guys ever tried reducing boot-times through a
 hibernate-based solution?  (e.g. Warp)  How do these stackup versus
 efforts to fast-boot Linux as detailed in this thread?

 This won¹t work at this time:

 http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg109331.html


Just to be clear: DS0 and suspend to ram is not the same as traditional
hibernation - hibernation tends to be suspend-to-disk(ish) complete
snapshot of the system. We are not attempting to do that as part of
Dave's series and target in upstream. (it might eventually facilitate a
similar solution with tux-on-ice or something in that line...) - but not
yet.
Yeah, but hibernation won¹t work either before fixing the PMIC subsystem.

Regards,
John


Regards,
Nishanth Menon

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBoard-X15 - seriously? :)

2014-11-11 Thread John Syn

On 11/11/14, 8:19 AM, __rh___ richard_hubb...@lavabit.com wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:00:21 +0100
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 
 Am 08.11.2014 um 21:05 schrieb rh_
 richard_hubb...@lavabit.com:
 
  On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:32:19 -0600
  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org wrote:
  
  Definitely not one of those. Look at what it has on it and make a
  good guess.
  
  Ok definitely must mean $200-400. Is this not good guessing?
  This starts to be a in different realm and the competition is more
  fierce. But you know more about that than I ever will and it's
  likely that I just don't understand the landscape. Dual Gb ethernet
  will attract a lot of attention for server/firewall/IDS/IPS.
 
 I think the feature set of the X15 is almost comparable to the
 OMAP5432EVM (which AFAIR was originally planned to become
 a PandaBoard 5):
 
 http://www.svtronics.com/5432
 
 So this seems to confirm the price range $200-400...

X15 not interesting at this price range. Plus some of the features
are really vaporware as it's likely they remain in their software
blackhole, as mentioned earlier.
Maybe not as bad as you think. I had a discussion on the linux-omap
mailing list and TI have RPMSG/REMOTEPROC working on the AM572x processor
and will push this to mainline early 2015.

Regards,
John

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBoard-X15 - seriously? :)

2014-11-11 Thread John Syn

On 11/11/14, 8:38 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:19 AM, __rh___ richard_hubb...@lavabit.com
wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:00:21 +0100
 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:


 Am 08.11.2014 um 21:05 schrieb rh_
 richard_hubb...@lavabit.com:

  On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:32:19 -0600
  Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org wrote:
 
  Definitely not one of those. Look at what it has on it and make a
  good guess.
 
  Ok definitely must mean $200-400. Is this not good guessing?
  This starts to be a in different realm and the competition is more
  fierce. But you know more about that than I ever will and it's
  likely that I just don't understand the landscape. Dual Gb ethernet
  will attract a lot of attention for server/firewall/IDS/IPS.

 I think the feature set of the X15 is almost comparable to the
 OMAP5432EVM (which AFAIR was originally planned to become
 a PandaBoard 5):

 http://www.svtronics.com/5432

 So this seems to confirm the price range $200-400...

 X15 not interesting at this price range. Plus some of the features
 are really vaporware as it's likely they remain in their software
 blackhole, as mentioned earlier.

At least vent your frustration to the correct people:

http://www.imgtec.com/

They are the ones who don't want to support their ip found in TI
products..
I guess if enough users way in and convince IMGTEC to support Linux
mainline, they may rethink their reluctance to support the open source
community. Post your comments on:

http://www.imgtec.com/community/
 

If you don¹t stand up and be counted, then you have no right to complain.

Regards,
John

Regards,

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http://www.rcn-ee.com/

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