Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-07 Thread Tim Cole

Once again --- thanks, folks. It's always useful to have some trail 
markers from explorers who've gone before. It certainly seems odd to have 
open resources that aren't just thinly veiled ads, but it seems that's not 
unusual in the Land of Linux. Who'd have guessed? :-)

(If you'll pardon the digression, I'm reminded of a joke that makes more 
sense to me now. A Windows user says, Oh, crap! Windows is downloading 
another update! A Linux user says, Oh, just the usual updates. A Mac 
user says, Oh, wow! An update! And it's only a hundred dollars!)

Cheers, Tim


On Friday, September 5, 2014 12:56:21 PM UTC-4, William Hermans wrote:

 You can find free legitimate reading material easily on the web. LDD ( 
 Linux Device Drivers is one example ). 

 Not to mention sites like 

 http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm and 
 https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

 Note that both those came up off of a google search, so yeah google is 
 probably the most important resource.




 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Joshua Datko jbd...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:



 Tim Cole timcole-bjeeyj9ojedqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org javascript: 
 writes:

  Agreed -- you can't learn a damned thing without putting in your own
  skull time. Perhaps I'm too distrustful of internet search engines --
  I like a good reference handbook. If there isn't one available, I'll
  just have to make do.

 By far, the number one reference on the BeagleBone Black is the System
 Reference Manual:

 https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SRM.pdf?raw=true

 It's impressively complete.

 However, that mainly covers the hardware. Since hardware doesn't change
 as often as software (although it's becoming more that way) any other
 reference is a snapshot in time, especially for Linux resources.

 In increasing specificity, one would need (supplied with links to books
 I like):

 - A good Linux reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/howlinuxworks.htm

 - A good Debian reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/debian.htm

 - A good embedded Linux reference
 http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Embedded-Systems-Experts-Voice/dp/1430272279

 - A good Linux programming reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/tlpi

 The difficulty in writing books on the BeagleBone is that the community
 moves incredibly fast. This is the sign of a healthy and vibrant
 community.

 Josh

 p.s. There are, of course, great *free* resources too. One would have to
 use a distrustful search engine to find them :p

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[beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-05 Thread Joshua Datko


Tim Cole timcole-bjeeyj9ojedqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org writes:

 Agreed -- you can't learn a damned thing without putting in your own
 skull time. Perhaps I'm too distrustful of internet search engines --
 I like a good reference handbook. If there isn't one available, I'll
 just have to make do.

By far, the number one reference on the BeagleBone Black is the System
Reference Manual:
https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SRM.pdf?raw=true

It's impressively complete.

However, that mainly covers the hardware. Since hardware doesn't change
as often as software (although it's becoming more that way) any other
reference is a snapshot in time, especially for Linux resources.

In increasing specificity, one would need (supplied with links to books
I like):

- A good Linux reference
http://www.nostarch.com/howlinuxworks.htm

- A good Debian reference
http://www.nostarch.com/debian.htm

- A good embedded Linux reference
http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Embedded-Systems-Experts-Voice/dp/1430272279

- A good Linux programming reference
http://www.nostarch.com/tlpi

The difficulty in writing books on the BeagleBone is that the community
moves incredibly fast. This is the sign of a healthy and vibrant
community.

Josh

p.s. There are, of course, great *free* resources too. One would have to
use a distrustful search engine to find them :p

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-05 Thread William Hermans
You can find free legitimate reading material easily on the web. LDD (
Linux Device Drivers is one example ).

Not to mention sites like

http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm and
https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

Note that both those came up off of a google search, so yeah google is
probably the most important resource.




On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Joshua Datko jbda...@gmail.com wrote:



 Tim Cole timcole-bjeeyj9ojedqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org writes:

  Agreed -- you can't learn a damned thing without putting in your own
  skull time. Perhaps I'm too distrustful of internet search engines --
  I like a good reference handbook. If there isn't one available, I'll
  just have to make do.

 By far, the number one reference on the BeagleBone Black is the System
 Reference Manual:

 https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black/blob/master/BBB_SRM.pdf?raw=true

 It's impressively complete.

 However, that mainly covers the hardware. Since hardware doesn't change
 as often as software (although it's becoming more that way) any other
 reference is a snapshot in time, especially for Linux resources.

 In increasing specificity, one would need (supplied with links to books
 I like):

 - A good Linux reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/howlinuxworks.htm

 - A good Debian reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/debian.htm

 - A good embedded Linux reference
 http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Embedded-Systems-Experts-Voice/dp/1430272279

 - A good Linux programming reference
 http://www.nostarch.com/tlpi

 The difficulty in writing books on the BeagleBone is that the community
 moves incredibly fast. This is the sign of a healthy and vibrant
 community.

 Josh

 p.s. There are, of course, great *free* resources too. One would have to
 use a distrustful search engine to find them :p

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[beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread Joshua Datko


murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org writes:


 1.  Load Putty on my PC.
 2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
 3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
 novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
 better).
 4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
 command-line interface.
 5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
 with a steep learning curve.

I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
trolling a holy war... :p )


 So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
 integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
 Linux programs for this board?


I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:

http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread William Hermans
That blog / Video is meant for the beaglebone white. There will be enough
differences with those instructions for the uninitiated to get in way over
their head.

e.g. it will lead into another circle of frustration.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Datko jbda...@gmail.com wrote:



 murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org writes:

 
  1.  Load Putty on my PC.
  2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
  3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
  novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
  better).
  4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
  command-line interface.
  5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
  with a steep learning curve.

 I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
 trolling a holy war... :p )


  So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
  integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
  Linux programs for this board?
 

 I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
 that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:


 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/


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RE: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread William Pretty Security
Worked ok for me J

 

Some of the software he installs manually is now included in the Eclipse 
package manager.

I haven’t tried the remote debugger yet, because I just downloaded it …….

 

No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could 
do only a little.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing 
Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)

http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book

 

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Behalf Of William Hermans
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:45 PM
To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

 

That blog / Video is meant for the beaglebone white. There will be enough 
differences with those instructions for the uninitiated to get in way over 
their head.

e.g. it will lead into another circle of frustration. 

 

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Datko jbda...@gmail.com wrote:



murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org 
mailto:murrellr-ywtbtysyrb%2blz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org  writes:


 1.  Load Putty on my PC.
 2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
 3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
 novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
 better).
 4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
 command-line interface.
 5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
 with a steep learning curve.

I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
trolling a holy war... :p )



 So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
 integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
 Linux programs for this board?


I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:

http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread Michael M
If you have an editor-of-choice(eg Sublime Text), there's a handy trick for 
using it remotely without needing to constantly save-upload your files. 
This works on Windows using WinSCP:
1) Open WinSCP and connect to the BBB
2) Create the empty source file on the BBB(main.c for example)
3) Right Click on the source file, select Open, and the file should open 
in the editor(if it's the default program)
4) Now anytime you save the file, it  will automatically upload the saved 
file to the BBB for you.

My next step is to setup Guard(https://github.com/guard/guard), so that 
whenever a source file is saved on the BBB in a project directory, it will 
trigger the gcc compiler automatically.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:53:07 PM UTC-7, William Pretty Security 
wrote:

 Worked ok for me J

  

 Some of the software he installs manually is now included in the Eclipse 
 package manager.

 I haven’t tried the remote debugger yet, because I just downloaded it …….

  

 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he 
 could do only a little.

 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do 
 nothing Edmond Burke *(1729 - 1797)*


 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book

  

 *From:* beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *William Hermans
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:45 PM
 *To:* beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

  

 That blog / Video is meant for the beaglebone white. There will be enough 
 differences with those instructions for the uninitiated to get in way over 
 their head.

 e.g. it will lead into another circle of frustration. 

  

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Datko jbd...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:



 murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org javascript: writes:

 
  1.  Load Putty on my PC.
  2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
  3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
  novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
  better).
  4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
  command-line interface.
  5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
  with a steep learning curve.

 I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
 trolling a holy war... :p )



  So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
  integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
  Linux programs for this board?
 

 I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
 that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:


 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread John Syn

From:  Michael M mmcdani...@gmail.com
Reply-To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Date:  Tuesday, September 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

 If you have an editor-of-choice(eg Sublime Text), there's a handy trick for
 using it remotely without needing to constantly save-upload your files. This
 works on Windows using WinSCP:
 1) Open WinSCP and connect to the BBB
 2) Create the empty source file on the BBB(main.c for example)
 3) Right Click on the source file, select Open, and the file should open in
 the editor(if it's the default program)
 4) Now anytime you save the file, it  will automatically upload the saved file
 to the BBB for you.
That is way to complicated. Just access rootfs via NFS so now you are
editing BBB files on your desktop. Now you can use sublime or eclipse
projects locally on your desktop. Everything works much quicker.

Regards,
John
 
 My next step is to setup Guard(https://github.com/guard/guard), so that
 whenever a source file is saved on the BBB in a project directory, it will
 trigger the gcc compiler automatically.
 
 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:53:07 PM UTC-7, William Pretty Security wrote:
 Worked ok for me J
  
 Some of the software he installs manually is now included in the Eclipse
 package manager.
 I haven¹t tried the remote debugger yet, because I just downloaded it ŠŠ.
  
 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could
 do only a little.
 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
 Edmond Burke (1729 - 1797)
 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book
  
 
 From: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 [mailto:beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: ] On Behalf Of William
 Hermans
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:45 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started
  
 
 That blog / Video is meant for the beaglebone white. There will be enough
 differences with those instructions for the uninitiated to get in way over
 their head.
 e.g. it will lead into another circle of frustration.
 
  
 
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Datko jbd...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:
 
 
 
 murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org javascript:  writes:
 
 
  1.  Load Putty on my PC.
  2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
  3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
  novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
  better).
  4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
  command-line interface.
  5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
  with a steep learning curve.
 I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
 trolling a holy war... :p )
 
 
 
  So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
  integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
  Linux programs for this board?
 
 I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
 that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:
 
 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-d
 evelopment/
 
 
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

2014-09-02 Thread Michael M
John, that's an even better trick.. thanks! I'll try it out for my next 
project.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:04:16 PM UTC-7, john3909 wrote:


 From: Michael M mmcda...@gmail.com javascript:
 Reply-To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 at 8:49 PM
 To: beagl...@googlegroups.com javascript: beagl...@googlegroups.com 
 javascript:
 Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

 If you have an editor-of-choice(eg Sublime Text), there's a handy trick 
 for using it remotely without needing to constantly save-upload your 
 files. This works on Windows using WinSCP:
 1) Open WinSCP and connect to the BBB
 2) Create the empty source file on the BBB(main.c for example)
 3) Right Click on the source file, select Open, and the file should open 
 in the editor(if it's the default program)
 4) Now anytime you save the file, it  will automatically upload the saved 
 file to the BBB for you.

 That is way to complicated. Just access rootfs via NFS so now you are 
 editing BBB files on your desktop. Now you can use sublime or eclipse 
 projects locally on your desktop. Everything works much quicker. 

 Regards,
 John


 My next step is to setup Guard(https://github.com/guard/guard), so that 
 whenever a source file is saved on the BBB in a project directory, it will 
 trigger the gcc compiler automatically.

 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:53:07 PM UTC-7, William Pretty Security 
 wrote:

 Worked ok for me J

  

 Some of the software he installs manually is now included in the Eclipse 
 package manager.

 I haven’t tried the remote debugger yet, because I just downloaded it …….

  

 No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he 
 could do only a little.

 All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do 
 nothing Edmond Burke *(1729 - 1797)*


 http://www.packtpub.com/building-a-home-security-system-with-beaglebone/book

  

 *From:* beagl...@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagl...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *William Hermans
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:45 PM
 *To:* beagl...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [beagleboard] Re: Yet another newbie how to get started

  

 That blog / Video is meant for the beaglebone white. There will be enough 
 differences with those instructions for the uninitiated to get in way over 
 their head.

 e.g. it will lead into another circle of frustration. 

  

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Joshua Datko jbd...@gmail.com wrote:



 murrellr-ywtbtysyrb+lz21kgmr...@public.gmane.org writes:

 
  1.  Load Putty on my PC.
  2.  Establish a SSH terminal session to the board.
  3.  Write my program using VIM (a horrible program to drop on a
  novice, it has a very steep learning curve) or nano (not much
  better).
  4.  Compile and link my program with gcc, after having to learn its
  command-line interface.
  5.  Run my program under the gnu debugger, another command-line tool
  with a steep learning curve.

 I use Emacs. It's much better than vim. (/me ducks and runs after
 trolling a holy war... :p )



  So, now my question.  Is there a easy to use, Windows, graphical
  integrated development environment for developing native Angstrom
  Linux programs for this board?
 

 I don't use Eclipse, but those that do AND work on the BeagleBone say
 that Derek Molloy has a good tutorial on setting up a GUI IDE:


 http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/setting-up-eclipse-on-the-beaglebone-for-c-development/



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