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Re: Openning Files Names with Embedded Spaces

2003-11-29 Thread Jeff Westman
Rob Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeff wrote:
 
  I am using Active Perl under Windoze 98.  I am trying to open a file that
 has
  embedded spaces.  I tried escaping the spaces as well, and that didn't
 work
  either.
 
  #! perl -w
  $file = c:\\win\\start menu\\programs\\system\\tbs montego\\_visit
 turtle beach web site.lnk;
  print file = $file\n;
  open(F,  $file) or warn cannot open $file (continuing): $!\n;
  $file =~ s/ /\\ /g;
  print file = $file\n;
  open(F,  $file) or die cannot open $file: $!\n;
  close(F);
 
  produces:
 
  file = c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle beach
 web site.lnk
  cannot open c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle
 beach web site.lnk (continuing): No such file or directory
  file = c:\win\start\ menu\programs\system\tbs\ montego\_visit\ turtle\
 beach\ web\ site.lnk
  cannot open c:\win\start\ menu\programs\system\tbs\ montego\_visit\
 turtle\
  beach\ web\ site.lnk: No such file or directory
 
  The file _does_ exist and works fine if I use DOS 8.3 short names.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
 Hi Jeff.
 
 I agree with Tim, you've most likely got the filename slightly wrong. And
 by the way it's a lot safer and more readable to use single quotes unless
 you really need to interpolate variables or add control characters to a
 string.
 
 Try this short program so that you can see what Perl can see. It keeps
 shortening
 the path until an opendir succeeds and then dumps the directory. Then you
 can cut
 and paste the file names directly back into your code.
 
   use strict;
   use warnings;
 
   my $file = 'C:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle
 beach web site.lnk';
 
   my $dir = $file;
   my $dh;
 
   ($dir) = $dir =~ /(.+)\\/ or die until opendir $dh, $dir;
 
   print dir = $dir\n;
   print map $_\n, readdir $dh;
 
 Just one thing: I presume your windows directory really is C:\win and not
 C:\WINDOWS?
 
 I hope this helps somehow,

The program worked, and returned a directory listing in that directory.

Basically, the problem I am still having is that I have a list of LNK files
that I want to open.  So when I use this statement:

open(F,  $f) or die cannot open file $f: $!\n;

the spaces get confused somehow.

The 'win' directory is correct back in the days of Windows 3.1, disk
space was a premium, so I applied a tip I read once to use 'win' instead of
'windows' to minimize disk space since windows was used in so many places. 
I am opening the LNK files to dump some information, specifically, what the
short cut key is (Win32::Shortcut has some short falls).



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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread R. Joseph Newton
John W. Krahn wrote:

 Jason Dusek wrote:
 
  Hi Perl Beginners,

 Hello,

  Let's say I have a hash of hashes.  And I want to use it over and over
  again, so I need to reinitialize it often.  I suppose I could go
  through each key in the hash of hashes, and go through each key in the
  little hashes and use delete on each of them.  But isn't there some
  elegant way?  Does Perl have a nuke() operator?

 If you want to clear out the hash completely then:

 %hash = ();

 Will remove all the keys and values from the hash.  This will also work
 with a hash of hashes.

 Or if you need to reinitialize it you can just assign the key/value
 pairs to the hash:

 %hash = ( newkey1 = 'newval1', newkey2 = 'newval2' );

 Which will assign the new list, replacing anything that was in there
 before.

 John

Thanks, John,

That indeed is one of the conveniences that makes one truly appreciate the
beauty of Perl reference-counting, anonymous data structures, and the use of
references.  Makes cleanups fast and easy.

Joseph



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RE: Openning Files Names with Embedded Spaces

2003-11-29 Thread Jeff Westman
Tim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Granted, I'm on XP, but I can't seem to reproduce your error.  I created a
 file at the path specified and it works perfectly.  Are you sure that you
 have the exact filename and that you have access to it?  (I guess it's
 windows 98, so you pretty much have access to everything...)  Try pasting
 the printed out version of the file at the Run... prompt and see if you can
 open it.  You may have to put double-quotes around it when you do this.
 
 The following code works for me:
 
 #
 
 use strict;
 use warnings;
 
 my $file = c:\\win\\start menu\\programs\\system\\tbs montego\\_visit
 turtle beach web site.lnk;
 print file = \$file\\n;
 open(F,  $file) or warn cannot open $file (continuing): $!\n;
 while(F){
   print;
 }
 close(F);
 
 #
 
 Of course, .lnk files are not text files, so if you really want to
 manipulate the link, you should use Win32::Shortcut.

The above code you sent me gave me the same error:

file = c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle beach web
site.lnk
cannot open c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle beach
web site.lnk (continuing): No such file or directory
readline() on closed filehandle F at x1.pl line 7.

Also, the Win32::Shortcut has some short-comings, basically, it cannot break
down the modifier codes for shortcuts, so I wrote my own.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Jason Dusek wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 08:51  PM, drieux wrote:
  a. how did you initialize it to begin with
and why not simple re-use that solution

 The hash consists of filenames, line numbers and strings.

 $HASH{$file}{$line} = line of code from some file.

 So the script goes along scouring the present directory for all
 instances of files of type '*.foo' and when it comes to one, it
 searches every last line of it for the pattern /\bfoo\b/ and if (and
 only if) there is a foo in the file, the it puts the name of the file
 in the hash, and then puts the number of each line containing /\bfoo\b/
 in the hash under the file's name, and then puts the line of code
 containing /\bfoo\b/ under the line number.  Then it prints out the
 hash and tells me what directory it was in when it did all this.

 So this is all fine well and good.  But let us say that I wish to
 rewrite the script so that it scours many directories in sequence, and
 then tells me what it did in each one.  There is only one thing that
 needs to be changed - each time it comes to a new directory, it should
 wipe the hash.  Then each directories report will not be contaminated
 by the previous report.  If I were to simply use the way I had
 initialized the hash in the first place, I would get a very long report
 for the last directory, most of which would be about files in other
 directories!  So I need to nuke the hash each time I go through the
 loop.

 - Jason

Hi Jason,

What you have here is a scoping issue. The hash for the current directory
should be declared inside the recursive function that does your scouring
work.  There is no issue then of cleaing up messes from unrelated, even if
parallel, parts of your program.  If you are designing your code properly,
this issue simply doesn't exist.  A variable scoped iside a function dies
when that function exits.  Even if the function calls itself, the variable
within each call is discrete.

Within the function below, the @$children array is much less complex than
your find results hash, but the principle applies equally.  There is a
multidimensional hash or two involved in this function also, but these are
parameters intended to work from a shared structure, so they don't speak to
the problem.


sub load_threaded_messages_to_tree {
  my ($threads, $paths, $message_list,
   $basepath, $for_path, $depth) = @_;

  my $children = [sort {$a = $b} keys %$threads];
  foreach my $child (@$children) {
my $path = $basepath ? $basepath . .$child : $child;
my $details = get_message_info($child);
add_threaded_message_to_tree($path, $details,
 $message_list, $child, $for_path);
load_threaded_messages_to_tree($threads-{$child},
 $paths, $message_list, $path, $for_path, $depth + 1);
  }
  return if not $basepath;
  if (@$children  0) {
$message_list-setmode($basepath, 'close');
$message_list-close($basepath);
  } else {
$message_list-setmode($basepath, 'none');
  }
}

What you should note here is that $children exists each time this function
calls itself.  Each time it is a new reference to an independent anonymous
array.  When each call returns the variable inside the called function
disappears, and its memory is freed.  As long as no reference to that array
is exported from the function, the garbage collection takes care of
itself.  This aint C, with its tricky Oops, I forgot to free() my
malloc() bugs.  Do be careful when exporting references, though.  You can
accumulate wasted memory bykeeping references to unused data structures in
scope.

Joseph


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holy ravenous bugblatter beast of traal!

2003-11-29 Thread drieux
volks,

has anyone else bumped heads with the 5.8.1
perlio layer where the old school tie
	chomp(my $line = STDIN);

now pops out if a sig handler is called
on a signal, such as SIG_CHLD???
I just did the upgrade and got bitten
with that silly demo code about doing
command line arguments. Since right
before the upgrade the code did what I
expected it to do under 5.6.1 and then
afterwards it was popping out of it and
whining about a chomp on an un-initialized
variable, yada-yada-yada...
So that command line demo code has come
around to be usefuler than merely the expected
intellectual amusement.
http://www.wetware.com/drieux/pbl/Sys/gen_sym_big_dog.txt

ciao
drieux
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Re: holy ravenous bugblatter beast of traal!

2003-11-29 Thread Steve Grazzini
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 11:49:25PM -0800, drieux wrote:
 has anyone else bumped heads with the 5.8.1 perlio layer where
 the old school tie
 
   chomp(my $line = STDIN);
 
 now pops out if a sig handler is called on a signal, such as
 SIG_CHLD???

This looks like the new safe signals feature (under-documented and
by-no-means-backwards-compatible, but turned on by default) that was
introduced in 5.8.0.  Your code used to work because this:

$SIG{CHLD} = \foo;

Called sigaction() with the SA_RESTART flag, so somewhere deep under the
hood of my $line = STDIN, the read() system call would continue if it
got interrupted by a SIGCHLD.

Nowadays, in order to deliver deferred signals promptly, the SA_RESTART
flag isn't being used and so read() will fail when interrupted.  But 
your code should still work, since the perlio layer checks for EINTR and
retries the interrupted syscall manually.

Maybe this is a quirk of the OS X Perl configuration?  Your code works
for me on Linux (5.8.0 and 5.8.1) but not OS X (10.2.6/5.8.0).

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Re: Viewing logs on other computers.

2003-11-29 Thread Dan Anderson

Although  it's not  quite the  same  thing, I  wrote a  pretty
simple Perl  script to keep track of  disk space usage on  a number of
file servers.   Because df needed to  be run as root  (access to /proc
wasnm't allowed for underprivileged users) I setuided it to root.

If  I were you  I would  chgrp the  /var/log to  logviewer, or
something like that.   Then I would SetGID the script  so it would run
as the group (logviewer).  Then you could read/parse/whatever the logs
and use FTP, email, or something similar to send the log files to your
main box.

-Dan


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problems with regular expressions

2003-11-29 Thread Dan Anderson

I have a regular expression that looks like:

$foo =~ s[class.*?=.*?'.*?'][]sgi;

The problem I run into is that if the following is presented to match:

table class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

The regular expression will match:

class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

And I'll get:

table 

Is there any way I can tell the .*? to match  as well as .?

Thanks in advance,

Dan


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Re: problems with regular expressions

2003-11-29 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Nov 29, 2003, at 1:15 PM, Dan Anderson wrote:

I have a regular expression that looks like:

$foo =~ s[class.*?=.*?'.*?'][]sgi;
We're just looking for spaces with most of those .*?s, right?  Why 
don't we say that.  And between quotes we're looking for non-quote 
characters, right?

s/class\s*=\s*'[^']*'//sgi

The problem I run into is that if the following is presented to match:

table class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

The regular expression will match:

class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

And I'll get:

table 

Is there any way I can tell the .*? to match  as well as .?
I don't understand this part of the question.  What are you wanting to 
match, instead of the above?

And of course, I should mention the many excellent HTML parsing modules 
on the CPAN, that work on many more cases than you're own quick and 
dirty approach.  Do you have a good reason for not using them?

James

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Re: problems with regular expressions

2003-11-29 Thread drieux
On Nov 29, 2003, at 11:35 AM, James Edward Gray II wrote:
On Nov 29, 2003, at 1:15 PM, Dan Anderson wrote:

I have a regular expression that looks like:

$foo =~ s[class.*?=.*?'.*?'][]sgi;
We're just looking for spaces with most of those .*?s, right?
Why don't we say that.  And between quotes we're looking
for non-quote characters, right?
s/class\s*=\s*'[^']*'//sgi
greedy RegEx's are a good thing,
except when they are TOO greedy!
Your RegEx is very Strong, but it is
short by a leading \s*
my $foo = q{table class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'};

print First foo: $foo\n;

$foo =~ s/\s*class\s*=\s*'[^']*'//sgi;
print Second foo: $foo\n;
so that one does not wind up with

	table tr td 

with your CORRECT use of the [^']* - the
anything but ' match.
Folks need to remember to clear the 'white space'
between the token and the attribute list! Which
is an ugly we all do...
ciao
drieux
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Re: Openning Files Names with Embedded Spaces

2003-11-29 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Jeff Westman wrote:

 Tim Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Granted, I'm on XP, but I can't seem to reproduce your error.  I created a
  file at the path specified and it works perfectly.  Are you sure that you
  have the exact filename and that you have access to it?  (I guess it's
  windows 98, so you pretty much have access to everything...)  Try pasting
  the printed out version of the file at the Run... prompt and see if you can
  open it.  You may have to put double-quotes around it when you do this.
 
  The following code works for me:
 
  #
 
  use strict;
  use warnings;
 
  my $file = c:\\win\\start menu\\programs\\system\\tbs montego\\_visit
  turtle beach web site.lnk;
  print file = \$file\\n;
  open(F,  $file) or warn cannot open $file (continuing): $!\n;
  while(F){
print;
  }
  close(F);
 
  #
 
  Of course, .lnk files are not text files, so if you really want to
  manipulate the link, you should use Win32::Shortcut.

 The above code you sent me gave me the same error:

 file = c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle beach web
 site.lnk
 cannot open c:\win\start menu\programs\system\tbs montego\_visit turtle beach
 web site.lnk (continuing): No such file or directory
 readline() on closed filehandle F at x1.pl line 7.

 Also, the Win32::Shortcut has some short-comings, basically, it cannot break
 down the modifier codes for shortcuts, so I wrote my own.

 Thanks,

 Jeff

Just in case there is a possiblity of misspelling, my suggestion for any long,
hard-coded path in Windows would be to:
1.  Make sure that the address bar is showing in  Windows Ecplorer, and that your
options are set to show the full path
2.  Select the directory/file you are looking for and copy the location.

Don't know if this will help, or if there is any sort of s[elling error
involved.  I do know that at least Perl 5.8 ActiveState, is quite adept at
handling long filenames:

Greetings! E:\d_drive\perlStuffperl -w
open IN, 'C:\Documents and Settings\rjnewton\Desktop\test_reg.reg' or die Could
not open: $!;
print for (IN);
close IN;
^Z
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\R. J. Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\R. J. Newton IdeaWorks\\TestReg\\Success\\is sweet



Greetings! E:\d_drive\perlStuffperl -w
open IN, 'C:\Documents and Settings\rjnewton\Desktop\Windows Media Player' or di
e Could not open: $!;
print for (IN);
close IN;
^Z
Could not open: No such file or directory at - line 1.

Greetings! E:\d_drive\perlStuffperl -w
open IN, 'C:\Documents and Settings\rjnewton\Desktop\Windows Media Player.lnk' o
r die Could not open: $!;
print for (IN);
close IN;
^Z
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?d??li??? ?Wñ}í??  ? ?   £ ¶ ?P?O? ?:i?ó +00¥? #C:\
1ä% 1 b.?¶1 Program Files PROGRA~1 , 1 b.?¶0 Windows Media Playe
r WINDOW~2 ? 2   ? î-p?  wmplayer.exea   ?   ?   ?   -   `   ?   ?   x\?
 ?C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe  J P l a y s   y o u r
  d i g i t a l   m e d i a   i n c l u d i n g   m u s i c ,   v i d e o s ,
C D s ,   a n d   I n t e r n e t   R a d i o . 8 . . \ . . \ . . \ P r o g r a
m   F i l e s \ W i n d o w s   M e d i a   P l a y e r \ w m p l a y e r . e x
e ?   ?  á   R   `   ?  áX   joseph_home ??â:0yBM½?C??~§e?3??L??ó? P?C
ĺ??â:0yBM½?C??~§e?3??L??ó? P?Cĺ

I'd say chek your spelling.  All of the above were done using the method I
described.  The only hack I had to apply was to add the still-hidden .lnk
extension [it's one of a small set that is hidden even when standard extensions
are shown.  I'll track down the Registry setting later.]  Remember KISS.  Apply
minimal hacking, you should get good results.

Joseph



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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread Rob Dixon
Joseph wrote:

 John W. Krahn wrote:

  Jason Dusek wrote:
  
   Hi Perl Beginners,
 
  Hello,
 
   Let's say I have a hash of hashes.  And I want to use it over and over
   again, so I need to reinitialize it often.  I suppose I could go
   through each key in the hash of hashes, and go through each key in the
   little hashes and use delete on each of them.  But isn't there some
   elegant way?  Does Perl have a nuke() operator?
 
  If you want to clear out the hash completely then:
 
  %hash = ();
 
  Will remove all the keys and values from the hash.  This will also work
  with a hash of hashes.
 
  Or if you need to reinitialize it you can just assign the key/value
  pairs to the hash:
 
  %hash = ( newkey1 = 'newval1', newkey2 = 'newval2' );
 
  Which will assign the new list, replacing anything that was in there
  before.
 
  John

 Thanks, John,

 That indeed is one of the conveniences that makes one truly appreciate the
 beauty of Perl reference-counting, anonymous data structures, and the use of
 references.  Makes cleanups fast and easy.

Hi Joseph.

I agree with your point, but there's no reference counting involved here
(unless the hash values were themselves references).

Rob



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Re: problems with regular expressions

2003-11-29 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Dan Anderson wrote:

 I have a regular expression that looks like:

 $foo =~ s[class.*?=.*?'.*?'][]sgi;

 The problem I run into is that if the following is presented to match:

 table class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

 The regular expression will match:

 class='foo'tr class='baz'td class='bar'

 And I'll get:

 table 

 Is there any way I can tell the .*? to match  as well as .?

 Thanks in advance,

 Dan

What is it that you are trying to achieve?  Using real, rather than
generalized, examples, will help a lot.  It sounds sort of like you are
trying to strip extraneous tags.  What are the standards by which you
decide which are extraneous?

Joseph


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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread R. Joseph Newton
Rob Dixon wrote:

 Joseph wrote:
 
  
   %hash = ();

 Hi Joseph.

 I agree with your point, but there's no reference counting involved here
 (unless the hash values were themselves references).

 Rob

I'll be darned, you're right.  I just noticed, as I was about to argue the
contrary, that hash was declared statically with %.  I so rarely do this,
especially if I'm intending to build a mutlidimensional structure, that I assumed
the base variable was a reference to an anonymous hash.  Even so, I think that the
internal hashes are kept alive by the refeences to them within the structure., and
therefore are freed when the hash elements referring to them no longer exist.  If
I'm missing something here, let me know.

Clearly if his structure is working as a multidimesional one, then it has to be
held together through references, because we know the flattening that takes place
when any whole structure inserted into an array or hash.

Joseph



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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread drieux
On Nov 29, 2003, at 12:29 PM, Rob Dixon wrote:
[..]
I agree with your point, but there's no reference counting involved 
here
(unless the hash values were themselves references).

Rob
I think that is a part of the issue that
folks need to also be thinking about when
they are putting together HoH and the like.
As a general rule

	simple things are simple

the problem of course is that Perl can
let one get complex Real Quickly. As
most folks notice, we keep seeing the
general
how do I create dynamic variables
from this list of things I read from
some file, so that I can do
and we have to remind them, that while it
is possible to smack in the
	no strict 'refs';

to work around the 'kvetching' there are
good reasons to avoid bad ju-ju that comes
down that lane.
The same is unfortunately involved in the
whole 'reference count' mechanism that perl
uses for memory management. So while hashes,
and hash references are core to perl's slickness,
they are not 'free' and folks need to do some
basic design work about what type of data structures
are they using, what are their scoping issues, and
are they 'hacking' themselves into a corner either
by trying to be TOO Cleaver, or Too 'able to extend'
and... all the same vices that plague 'real coders'
programming in 'RealCodingLanguages' on RealOS's...
ciao
drieux
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Re: Stupid Question

2003-11-29 Thread John W. Krahn
Rob Dixon wrote:
 
 Joseph wrote:
 
  John W. Krahn wrote:
  
   If you want to clear out the hash completely then:
  
   %hash = ();
  
   Will remove all the keys and values from the hash.  This will also work
   with a hash of hashes.
  
   Or if you need to reinitialize it you can just assign the key/value
   pairs to the hash:
  
   %hash = ( newkey1 = 'newval1', newkey2 = 'newval2' );
  
   Which will assign the new list, replacing anything that was in there
   before.
 
  That indeed is one of the conveniences that makes one truly appreciate the
  beauty of Perl reference-counting, anonymous data structures, and the use of
  references.  Makes cleanups fast and easy.
 
 I agree with your point, but there's no reference counting involved here
 (unless the hash values were themselves references).

AFAIK all variables have a reference count.

$ perl -e'
use Devel::Peek;
$c = 1;Dump $c;
our $d = 2;Dump $d;
my  $e = 3;Dump $e;
@f = 4;Dump @f;
%g = ( 5, 6 ); Dump %g;
'
SV = IV(0x8100f30) at 0x810a968
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (IOK,pIOK,IsUV)
  UV = 1
SV = IV(0x8100f34) at 0x810a8b4
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (IOK,pIOK,IsUV)
  UV = 2
SV = IV(0x8100f38) at 0x810da98
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (PADBUSY,PADMY,IOK,pIOK,IsUV)
  UV = 3
SV = IV(0x8100f3c) at 0x80f47a0
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (IOK,pIOK,IsUV)
  UV = 4
SV = PV(0x80f4a6c) at 0x80f46b0
  REFCNT = 1
  FLAGS = (TEMP,POK,pPOK)
  PV = 0x8104030 5\0
  CUR = 1
  LEN = 2




John
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scalars lists

2003-11-29 Thread B. Rothstein
If I have a scalar variable that itslef is a list of names, for example
$names = 'john, jack, albert, timmy; is it possible, and if so how can it
be done to separate the individual names from the list in their scalar form
in order to create a new list of sorted names. thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: scalars lists

2003-11-29 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Nov 30, 2003, at 1:45 AM, B. Rothstein wrote:

If I have a scalar variable that itslef is a list of names, for example
$names = 'john, jack, albert, timmy; is it possible, and if so how 
can it
be done to separate the individual names from the list in their scalar 
form
in order to create a new list of sorted names. thanks for any 
suggestions.
my @names = sort split /, ?/, $names;

G'Night and good luck.

James

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