Re: Perl Newbie - Need good book recommendation

2003-09-27 Thread Marc Adler
* Ed Yost [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-27 14:29]:
 Hi all,
 
 I am a complete newbie to perl and have no programming experience. Do 
 any of you have a good recommendation on a book or resource for a 
 beginner such as myself?

I'm using O'Reilly's _Learning Perl_ and it's very clear. Like you, I
have no programming experience (except for BASIC and Pascal in high
school over ten years ago of which I remember exactly zero), and find
the book's hand-holding style (jokes, focusing on one specific topic at
a time, building on each concept, etc.) reassuring. I tried using online
tutorials like the other replier suggests, but got lost. I think that
method works if you know something about programming already, because
most of the tutorials I came across (granted, they may not have been the
best ones, and I didn't try hundreds before going for the book) assume a
certain level of familiarity with basic programming concepts which I
didn't have.

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Re: Perl Vs ...

2003-09-22 Thread Marc Adler
* Tassilo von Parseval [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-21 20:27]:
 On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 09:28:21PM -0400 Paul Kraus wrote:
 
  Perl was pretty much my first language. Not counting Business Basic and same
  old Pascal from high school. The more I learn the more I see that perl can
  handle just about anything I want to do. How do you go about deciding if you
  should use another tool such as C++ over perl? I am thinking about learning
  another language and trying to decide what language would be best to learn.
  To expand my skill set. Suggestions, Ideas, Book Recommendations?
 
 I was always of the opinion that knowing C is one of the essential
 things. Too many vital stuff is nowadays hidden away from the user in
 more recent languages (such as portability issues and memory management
 for instance).
 
 C also has the advantage that it integrates tightly into perl. You can
 write Perl modules as C extensions which is fun and will teach you a lot
 about perl and how interpreters in general work.
 
 However, C's learning curve is rather steep (but shorter than Perl's).

Would learning C++ do just as well? On many of the C/C++-related
websites/newsgroups they say that there's no point in learning C because
you'll have to unlearn a bunch of bad habits when you learn C++ (I
don't know either language, so I don't know what those habits might be).

Also, how commonly is perl learned as a first language?

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 pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
 $_=reverse,s+(?=sub).+q#q!'qq.\t$.'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~;eval

What's all that?

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