Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-31 Thread Octavian Rasnita

From: "Mike Flannigan" 
Subject: Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server




On 7/30/2014 11:14 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Catalyst can be used with the CGI interface, but it would be very slow, 
so not recommended at all.


Octavia



I was told it could also be used with PSGI/Plack.
I'm hoping that is better.

I got past the nmake issue with my Win7, but I suspect
I may run into trouble with Catalyst.  I would really
like to use something lighter and easier.


Mike




Yes, of course Catalyst supports plack/psgi, but it is a persistent 
environment like Apache mod_perl or fastcgi and I doubt it would be offered 
in a shared hosting server.

If you use a VPS, plack/psgi is the recommended solution.

Octavian


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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-31 Thread Mike Flannigan


On 7/30/2014 11:14 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Catalyst can be used with the CGI interface, but it would be very 
slow, so not recommended at all.


Octavia



I was told it could also be used with PSGI/Plack.
I'm hoping that is better.

I got past the nmake issue with my Win7, but I suspect
I may run into trouble with Catalyst.  I would really
like to use something lighter and easier.


Mike


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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-30 Thread Octavian Rasnita

From: "Mike Flannigan" 




Interestingly Hostgator already has Catalyst installed,
so for now I'm going to give that a try.


Mike





Catalyst can be used with the CGI interface, but it would be very slow, so 
not recommended at all.


Octavian



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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-30 Thread Mike Flannigan


Interestingly Hostgator already has Catalyst installed,
so for now I'm going to give that a try.


Mike


On 7/29/2014 6:25 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:


I pay about $8 per month for a shared server hosting
at Hostgator.  I recently asked Hostgator to install
Mojolicious on my account because I wanted to migrate
away from CGI.

Hostgator tells me they can't install Mojolicious "on a
shared server as to install any custom modules you will need
root access to the server especially for one such as
Mojolicious which is a Full stack HTTP and WebSocket client/server
implementation with IPv6, TLS, SNI, IDNA, Comet (long polling),
keep-alive, connection pooling, timeout, cookie, multipart, proxy and
gzip compression support.  Unfortunately we will not install any
modules that opens sockets and acts as a server."

They also can't install Fastcgi on shared servers due to memory issues.

They did install CGI::Simple.

It appears dedicated servers are $200 per month, or slightly more.
http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated
I'm not likely to do that.


Does anybody here have any suggestions on what I can do other than
go back to CGI?  I asked about Catalyst and I'll see what they say
to that.  Are there any shared hosting plans that allow the installation
of Mojolicious?


Mike





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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-30 Thread David Precious
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:34 -0500
Mike Flannigan  wrote:
> I pay about $8 per month for a shared server hosting
> at Hostgator.  I recently asked Hostgator to install
> Mojolicious on my account because I wanted to migrate
> away from CGI.
> 
> Hostgator tells me they can't install Mojolicious "on a
> shared server [...]

Yeah, typically hosts won't install custom modules on shared servers,
and won't support long-running processes, as the box is shared with
lots of other customers.

> It appears dedicated servers are $200 per month, or slightly more.
> http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated
> I'm not likely to do that.

As Hao Wu says, a VPS will give you full control and ability to install
and run whatever you want for a LOT less than that - in fact, some
budget providers will be able to give you a VPS for about what you're
currently paying.



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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Flannigan


Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll look into it.


Mike


On 7/29/2014 6:24 PM, Hao Wu wrote:

use DigitalOcean about $5 a month. you get everything you need.

I am running Dancer2 in DigitalOcean, runs great.




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Re: Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-29 Thread Hao Wu
use DigitalOcean about $5 a month. you get everything you need.

I am running Dancer2 in DigitalOcean, runs great.


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Mike Flannigan  wrote:

>
> I pay about $8 per month for a shared server hosting
> at Hostgator.  I recently asked Hostgator to install
> Mojolicious on my account because I wanted to migrate
> away from CGI.
>
> Hostgator tells me they can't install Mojolicious "on a
> shared server as to install any custom modules you will need
> root access to the server especially for one such as
> Mojolicious which is a Full stack HTTP and WebSocket client/server
> implementation with IPv6, TLS, SNI, IDNA, Comet (long polling),
> keep-alive, connection pooling, timeout, cookie, multipart, proxy and
> gzip compression support.  Unfortunately we will not install any
> modules that opens sockets and acts as a server."
>
> They also can't install Fastcgi on shared servers due to memory issues.
>
> They did install CGI::Simple.
>
> It appears dedicated servers are $200 per month, or slightly more.
> http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated
> I'm not likely to do that.
>
>
> Does anybody here have any suggestions on what I can do other than
> go back to CGI?  I asked about Catalyst and I'll see what they say
> to that.  Are there any shared hosting plans that allow the installation
> of Mojolicious?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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Can't Install Mojolicious on Shared Server

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Flannigan


I pay about $8 per month for a shared server hosting
at Hostgator.  I recently asked Hostgator to install
Mojolicious on my account because I wanted to migrate
away from CGI.

Hostgator tells me they can't install Mojolicious "on a
shared server as to install any custom modules you will need
root access to the server especially for one such as
Mojolicious which is a Full stack HTTP and WebSocket client/server
implementation with IPv6, TLS, SNI, IDNA, Comet (long polling),
keep-alive, connection pooling, timeout, cookie, multipart, proxy and
gzip compression support.  Unfortunately we will not install any
modules that opens sockets and acts as a server."

They also can't install Fastcgi on shared servers due to memory issues.

They did install CGI::Simple.

It appears dedicated servers are $200 per month, or slightly more.
http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated
I'm not likely to do that.


Does anybody here have any suggestions on what I can do other than
go back to CGI?  I asked about Catalyst and I'll see what they say
to that.  Are there any shared hosting plans that allow the installation
of Mojolicious?


Mike



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