RE: building module/package

2003-09-30 Thread Hanson, Rob
> The only configuration I know is
> in /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl

Yup, that looks like the one.

> put this here?

I think it would go right above (or below) the "Alias" line.

Rob


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Hanson, Rob
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Subject: RE: building module/package


my redhat 9 is configured canned w/apache and mod_perl. The only
configuration I know is in /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl:

Alias /mp /var/www/mp

SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler ModPerl::Registry::handler
PerlOptions +ParseHeaders
Options +ExecCGI

put this here?
setenv PERL5LIB /path/to/lib



> Besides the advice given below, there are a few other things you can do...
>
> To add the location of the Perl script to the lib path you can use this.
> The FindBin module finds your script, then sets $Bin to that location.
>
> use FindBin qw($Bin);
> use lib $Bin;
>
> Another way to do it is to set the environment variable PERL5LIB to the
> location of your home-grown modules.  You can set this in the Apache
> config
> (or .htaccess file) with the setenv command (see Apache docs for more
> info,
> but I think it is "setenv PERL5LIB /path/to/lib").
>
> You could also install it into the "site_perl" directory in your @INC
> path,
> but you should never put it in the "vendor_perl" directories.
>
> Of the above options I would recommend using the PERL5LIB env variable.
> ...And I would also recommend that the libraries not be put in any
> directory
> accessable to the web server (unless you have no choice).
>
> Rob
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Staal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Perl Newbies
> Subject: Re: building module/package
>
>
>
>
> --On Monday, September 29, 2003 23:53 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> -I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no
>> response.
>>
>> I got the module working in the current directory executing on the
>> command line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl
>> dir using apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same
>> directory as the calling perl program. I got it working running on
>> the command line but in apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.
>
> Ok, I know nothing about mod_perl, but let's see what I can do.
> First guess: mod_perl considers that 'the current directory' is
> either itself or insecure.  (Probably the latter: it is in this
> context.)
>
>> Questions:
>>  - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
>>  - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
>> directive.
>>
>> Error message:
>> Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)
>
> Hmm.  So it does seem to contain the current directory...  (That
> would be the '.' at the end.)  Doesn't help much: We still don't know
> *which* directory is the current directory.
>
> There are two or three things you could do here.  First off, you
> could put 'mystuff.pm' in one of the above directories.  Don't really
> recommend that, it confuses the user on what is written on your end
> and what isn't, but it is possible.
>
> Secondly, you could see if there is a way to add to the @INC array in
> mod_perl's config.  I would assume so, but I have no clue...
>
> Third, you could add to @INC in your program file.  The best way to
> do this is to use the 'use lib' pragma.  Syntax: 'use lib "$lib";'
> where $lib is any perl expression that can be expanded into the
> directory.  (That means you can use variables, but only ones that
> will have a value without running any of your program code...)  Put
> that in your program before you 'use' your module.
>
> To simplify: put 'use lib "/path/to/module";' before 'use module;' in
> your main program and it should work. ;-)
>
>> Any help would be great.
>> By the way, I just getting started with perl.

RE: building module/package

2003-09-30 Thread perl
my redhat 9 is configured canned w/apache and mod_perl. The only
configuration I know is in /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl:

Alias /mp /var/www/mp

SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler ModPerl::Registry::handler
PerlOptions +ParseHeaders
Options +ExecCGI

put this here?
setenv PERL5LIB /path/to/lib



> Besides the advice given below, there are a few other things you can do...
>
> To add the location of the Perl script to the lib path you can use this.
> The FindBin module finds your script, then sets $Bin to that location.
>
> use FindBin qw($Bin);
> use lib $Bin;
>
> Another way to do it is to set the environment variable PERL5LIB to the
> location of your home-grown modules.  You can set this in the Apache
> config
> (or .htaccess file) with the setenv command (see Apache docs for more
> info,
> but I think it is "setenv PERL5LIB /path/to/lib").
>
> You could also install it into the "site_perl" directory in your @INC
> path,
> but you should never put it in the "vendor_perl" directories.
>
> Of the above options I would recommend using the PERL5LIB env variable.
> ...And I would also recommend that the libraries not be put in any
> directory
> accessable to the web server (unless you have no choice).
>
> Rob
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Staal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Perl Newbies
> Subject: Re: building module/package
>
>
>
>
> --On Monday, September 29, 2003 23:53 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> -I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no
>> response.
>>
>> I got the module working in the current directory executing on the
>> command line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl
>> dir using apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same
>> directory as the calling perl program. I got it working running on
>> the command line but in apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.
>
> Ok, I know nothing about mod_perl, but let's see what I can do.
> First guess: mod_perl considers that 'the current directory' is
> either itself or insecure.  (Probably the latter: it is in this
> context.)
>
>> Questions:
>>  - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
>>  - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
>> directive.
>>
>> Error message:
>> Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)
>
> Hmm.  So it does seem to contain the current directory...  (That
> would be the '.' at the end.)  Doesn't help much: We still don't know
> *which* directory is the current directory.
>
> There are two or three things you could do here.  First off, you
> could put 'mystuff.pm' in one of the above directories.  Don't really
> recommend that, it confuses the user on what is written on your end
> and what isn't, but it is possible.
>
> Secondly, you could see if there is a way to add to the @INC array in
> mod_perl's config.  I would assume so, but I have no clue...
>
> Third, you could add to @INC in your program file.  The best way to
> do this is to use the 'use lib' pragma.  Syntax: 'use lib "$lib";'
> where $lib is any perl expression that can be expanded into the
> directory.  (That means you can use variables, but only ones that
> will have a value without running any of your program code...)  Put
> that in your program before you 'use' your module.
>
> To simplify: put 'use lib "/path/to/module";' before 'use module;' in
> your main program and it should work. ;-)
>
>> Any help would be great.
>> By the way, I just getting started with perl.
>> -rkl
>
> Hey, I haven't even completed my first perl program yet.  It just
> happens that my first program is best written with three modules...
>
> Daniel T. Staal
>
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Re: building module/package

2003-09-30 Thread perl
Thanks for your help. I had tried the use lib "path/to/module"; and use
module; but it is still complaining about the use module part.

However, I took the easy route but may annoy structured folks, like perl
is very structured. I put it in /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0

It works! Yippee! Perl programming is cryptic anyway, isn't it? Just let
the next programmer figure it out. just like, [EMAIL PROTECTED]&(2.3), that suppose
to mean something ;)

Just to keep on chugging, I'll take it out of there as soon as I can
figure it out.

I know it's probably a one liner in the httpd.conf file but I have
mod_perl folks telling me to read the whole website!

oh well, thanks.

-rkl

>
>
> --On Monday, September 29, 2003 23:53 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> -I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no
>> response.
>>
>> I got the module working in the current directory executing on the
>> command line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl
>> dir using apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same
>> directory as the calling perl program. I got it working running on
>> the command line but in apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.
>
> Ok, I know nothing about mod_perl, but let's see what I can do.
> First guess: mod_perl considers that 'the current directory' is
> either itself or insecure.  (Probably the latter: it is in this
> context.)
>
>> Questions:
>>  - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
>>  - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
>> directive.
>>
>> Error message:
>> Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
>> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)
>
> Hmm.  So it does seem to contain the current directory...  (That
> would be the '.' at the end.)  Doesn't help much: We still don't know
> *which* directory is the current directory.
>
> There are two or three things you could do here.  First off, you
> could put 'mystuff.pm' in one of the above directories.  Don't really
> recommend that, it confuses the user on what is written on your end
> and what isn't, but it is possible.
>
> Secondly, you could see if there is a way to add to the @INC array in
> mod_perl's config.  I would assume so, but I have no clue...
>
> Third, you could add to @INC in your program file.  The best way to
> do this is to use the 'use lib' pragma.  Syntax: 'use lib "$lib";'
> where $lib is any perl expression that can be expanded into the
> directory.  (That means you can use variables, but only ones that
> will have a value without running any of your program code...)  Put
> that in your program before you 'use' your module.
>
> To simplify: put 'use lib "/path/to/module";' before 'use module;' in
> your main program and it should work. ;-)
>
>> Any help would be great.
>> By the way, I just getting started with perl.
>> -rkl
>
> Hey, I haven't even completed my first perl program yet.  It just
> happens that my first program is best written with three modules...
>
> Daniel T. Staal
>
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RE: building module/package

2003-09-30 Thread Hanson, Rob
Besides the advice given below, there are a few other things you can do...

To add the location of the Perl script to the lib path you can use this.
The FindBin module finds your script, then sets $Bin to that location.

use FindBin qw($Bin);
use lib $Bin;

Another way to do it is to set the environment variable PERL5LIB to the
location of your home-grown modules.  You can set this in the Apache config
(or .htaccess file) with the setenv command (see Apache docs for more info,
but I think it is "setenv PERL5LIB /path/to/lib").

You could also install it into the "site_perl" directory in your @INC path,
but you should never put it in the "vendor_perl" directories.

Of the above options I would recommend using the PERL5LIB env variable.
...And I would also recommend that the libraries not be put in any directory
accessable to the web server (unless you have no choice).

Rob


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Staal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Perl Newbies
Subject: Re: building module/package




--On Monday, September 29, 2003 23:53 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no
> response.
>
> I got the module working in the current directory executing on the
> command line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl
> dir using apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same
> directory as the calling perl program. I got it working running on
> the command line but in apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.

Ok, I know nothing about mod_perl, but let's see what I can do. 
First guess: mod_perl considers that 'the current directory' is 
either itself or insecure.  (Probably the latter: it is in this 
context.)

> Questions:
>  - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
>  - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
> /etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
> directive.
>
> Error message:
> Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)

Hmm.  So it does seem to contain the current directory...  (That 
would be the '.' at the end.)  Doesn't help much: We still don't know 
*which* directory is the current directory.

There are two or three things you could do here.  First off, you 
could put 'mystuff.pm' in one of the above directories.  Don't really 
recommend that, it confuses the user on what is written on your end 
and what isn't, but it is possible.

Secondly, you could see if there is a way to add to the @INC array in 
mod_perl's config.  I would assume so, but I have no clue...

Third, you could add to @INC in your program file.  The best way to 
do this is to use the 'use lib' pragma.  Syntax: 'use lib "$lib";' 
where $lib is any perl expression that can be expanded into the 
directory.  (That means you can use variables, but only ones that 
will have a value without running any of your program code...)  Put 
that in your program before you 'use' your module.

To simplify: put 'use lib "/path/to/module";' before 'use module;' in 
your main program and it should work. ;-)

> Any help would be great.
> By the way, I just getting started with perl.
> -rkl

Hey, I haven't even completed my first perl program yet.  It just 
happens that my first program is best written with three modules...

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: building module/package

2003-09-30 Thread Daniel Staal


--On Monday, September 29, 2003 23:53 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

-I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no
response.
I got the module working in the current directory executing on the
command line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl
dir using apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same
directory as the calling perl program. I got it working running on
the command line but in apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.
Ok, I know nothing about mod_perl, but let's see what I can do. 
First guess: mod_perl considers that 'the current directory' is 
either itself or insecure.  (Probably the latter: it is in this 
context.)

Questions:
 - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
 - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
/etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
directive.
Error message:
Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)
Hmm.  So it does seem to contain the current directory...  (That 
would be the '.' at the end.)  Doesn't help much: We still don't know 
*which* directory is the current directory.

There are two or three things you could do here.  First off, you 
could put 'mystuff.pm' in one of the above directories.  Don't really 
recommend that, it confuses the user on what is written on your end 
and what isn't, but it is possible.

Secondly, you could see if there is a way to add to the @INC array in 
mod_perl's config.  I would assume so, but I have no clue...

Third, you could add to @INC in your program file.  The best way to 
do this is to use the 'use lib' pragma.  Syntax: 'use lib "$lib";' 
where $lib is any perl expression that can be expanded into the 
directory.  (That means you can use variables, but only ones that 
will have a value without running any of your program code...)  Put 
that in your program before you 'use' your module.

To simplify: put 'use lib "/path/to/module";' before 'use module;' in 
your main program and it should work. ;-)

Any help would be great.
By the way, I just getting started with perl.
-rkl
Hey, I haven't even completed my first perl program yet.  It just 
happens that my first program is best written with three modules...

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: building module/package

2003-09-29 Thread perl
Daniel:

-I've sent this to the mod_perl list but there seems to be no response.

I got the module working in the current directory executing on the command
line. But I have a problem calling a module in my mod_perl dir using
apache on redhat 9. I have a mystuff.pm in the same directory as the
calling perl program. I got it working running on the command line but in
apache mod_perl, it can't find the module.

Questions:
 - Where should the mystuff.pm be located in?
 - The only place i know about mod_perl configuration file is:
/etc/httpd/conf.d/perl.conf. This contains the Alias and Directory
directive.

Error message:
Can't locate mystuff.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .)

Any help would be great.
By the way, I just getting started with perl.
-rkl

>
>
> --On Monday, September 29, 2003 19:04 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> test.pl
>> ---
>> use mystuff;
>>
>> print mystuff::trim($username);
>>
>> mystuff.pm
>> --
>># do i need any declaration line here
>># is sub here or what?
>># and where do i put this pm file?
>>
>> sub trim
>> { my $z = $_[0];
>>   $z =~ s/^\s+//;
>>   $z =~ s/\s+$//;
>>   return $z;
>> }
>
> You're almost good.  Add '1;' to the end of mystuff.pm, just to
> return a true value when it compiles, and 'package mystuff;' to the
> beginning of the same so Perl knows it is a package.  Also 'use
> warnings' and 'use strict' would be good in both...
>
> As for where you put it: wherever you want.  Just make sure that it
> gets included in the @INC path.  The easiest is in the same folder as
> test.pl (assuming you always run test.pl from there), since the
> current folder is in the path.
>
> Daniel T. Staal
>
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Re: building module/package

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Staal


--On Monday, September 29, 2003 19:04 -0700 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

test.pl
---
use mystuff;
print mystuff::trim($username);

mystuff.pm
--
# do i need any declaration line here
# is sub here or what?
# and where do i put this pm file?
sub trim
{ my $z = $_[0];
  $z =~ s/^\s+//;
  $z =~ s/\s+$//;
  return $z;
}
You're almost good.  Add '1;' to the end of mystuff.pm, just to 
return a true value when it compiles, and 'package mystuff;' to the 
beginning of the same so Perl knows it is a package.  Also 'use 
warnings' and 'use strict' would be good in both...

As for where you put it: wherever you want.  Just make sure that it 
gets included in the @INC path.  The easiest is in the same folder as 
test.pl (assuming you always run test.pl from there), since the 
current folder is in the path.

Daniel T. Staal

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