can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Lee

say I have big wireshark file based on remote server.

I want to logon to that server and using Net::Pcap to poke the file and 
only grep out small portion of information which meets my criteria.

Remote server won't have Net::Pcap installed.

I wanted to write this program w/ Expect modules and Net::Pcap module in 
my mind.
But since these things are only located in my local server, will this 
work on remote server?


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Re: can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Rob Coops
If you can make Net::Pcap connect to a remote server things will work fine,
I am not sure about using Net::Pcap to do this as I never used it and from
the description it seems to be a packet capture lib not so much a
communication one, but as I said if you can make it reach out and talk to
the other side you should be fine.

I think you will end up using somehting like Net::SSH or something like that
as these are more aimed at communication then Net::Pcap seems to be.

But in the end as long as the other side is listening on a port and you can
produce the required packets to get communication going you should be fine,
there is no need to have perl, or any perl libs on the other side all that
is needed is an open port that you can communicate with.
The thing that is listening on that port is what determins what you can do,
read email, open and interact with files or just browse a web page, perl on
your machine cannot change which process is listening on the other machine.

In short I guess you can if the other machine is listening, but you might
want to use a more suitable lib for it.

Regards,

Rob

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Richard Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 say I have big wireshark file based on remote server.

 I want to logon to that server and using Net::Pcap to poke the file and
 only grep out small portion of information which meets my criteria.
 Remote server won't have Net::Pcap installed.

 I wanted to write this program w/ Expect modules and Net::Pcap module in my
 mind.
 But since these things are only located in my local server, will this work
 on remote server?

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Re: can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Lee

Rob Coops wrote:
If you can make Net::Pcap connect to a remote server things will work 
fine, I am not sure about using Net::Pcap to do this as I never used 
it and from the description it seems to be a packet capture lib not so 
much a communication one, but as I said if you can make it reach out 
and talk to the other side you should be fine.
 
I think you will end up using somehting like Net::SSH or something 
like that as these are more aimed at communication then Net::Pcap 
seems to be.
 
But in the end as long as the other side is listening on a port and 
you can produce the required packets to get communication going you 
should be fine, there is no need to have perl, or any perl libs on the 
other side all that is needed is an open port that you can communicate 
with.
The thing that is listening on that port is what determins what you 
can do, read email, open and interact with files or just browse a web 
page, perl on your machine cannot change which process is listening on 
the other machine.
 
In short I guess you can if the other machine is listening, but you 
might want to use a more suitable lib for it.
 
Regards,
 
Rob


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Richard Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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say I have big wireshark file based on remote server.

I want to logon to that server and using Net::Pcap to poke the
file and only grep out small portion of information which meets my
criteria.
Remote server won't have Net::Pcap installed.

I wanted to write this program w/ Expect modules and Net::Pcap
module in my mind.
But since these things are only located in my local server, will
this work on remote server?

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Hi,

local server(w/ Perl installed) --- remote server(with 
Pcap file I am interested in poking around)


if I launch a perl script from my local server(using say Net::SSH) and 
logs onto remote server, my perl can poke around that file on remote server
using Net::Pcap ? So essentially in order to do this, I need to use 
2 modules(to logon, and then parsing out the pcap file)


I am thinking about writing this but just not sure if it will work on 
remote server



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Re: can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Rob Coops
 Ah, I see...

I think you have been misled by the name of the Net::Pcap lib, the lib is
meant to produce the file you are trying to poke around in.

I would do the follwoing.

   - Use Net::SSH or similair to connect to the remote machine.
   - On the remote machine use grep or similair to pull out the lines you
   are intrested in and store those in an array/file or well what ever storage
   you like on your side.
   - Process the data on your own machine.

The advantage of this is that you only move the data you are intrested in
over the network and not the whole big file, thus reducing the network
trafic and maning your network admins happy as well. Because you have the
data on your side you can then do with it what you want without having to
rely on any software on the remote machine.

I hope this helps a bit,

Rob
 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Richard Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob Coops wrote:

 If you can make Net::Pcap connect to a remote server things will work
 fine, I am not sure about using Net::Pcap to do this as I never used it and
 from the description it seems to be a packet capture lib not so much a
 communication one, but as I said if you can make it reach out and talk to
 the other side you should be fine.
  I think you will end up using somehting like Net::SSH or something like
 that as these are more aimed at communication then Net::Pcap seems to be.
  But in the end as long as the other side is listening on a port and you
 can produce the required packets to get communication going you should be
 fine, there is no need to have perl, or any perl libs on the other side all
 that is needed is an open port that you can communicate with.
 The thing that is listening on that port is what determins what you can
 do, read email, open and interact with files or just browse a web page, perl
 on your machine cannot change which process is listening on the other
 machine.
  In short I guess you can if the other machine is listening, but you might
 want to use a more suitable lib for it.
  Regards,
  Rob

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

say I have big wireshark file based on remote server.

I want to logon to that server and using Net::Pcap to poke the
file and only grep out small portion of information which meets my
criteria.
Remote server won't have Net::Pcap installed.

I wanted to write this program w/ Expect modules and Net::Pcap
module in my mind.
But since these things are only located in my local server, will
this work on remote server?

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 Hi,

 local server(w/ Perl installed) --- remote server(with
 Pcap file I am interested in poking around)

 if I launch a perl script from my local server(using say Net::SSH) and logs
 onto remote server, my perl can poke around that file on remote server
 using Net::Pcap ? So essentially in order to do this, I need to use 2
 modules(to logon, and then parsing out the pcap file)

 I am thinking about writing this but just not sure if it will work on
 remote server




Re: can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Lee

Rob Coops wrote:

Ah, I see...
 
I think you have been misled by the name of the Net::Pcap lib, the lib 
is meant to produce the file you are trying to poke around in.
 
I would do the follwoing.


* Use Net::SSH or similair to connect to the remote machine.
* On the remote machine use grep or similair to pull out the lines
  you are intrested in and store those in an array/file or well
  what ever storage you like on your side.
* Process the data on your own machine.

The advantage of this is that you only move the data you are intrested 
in over the network and not the whole big file, thus reducing the 
network trafic and maning your network admins happy as well. Because 
you have the data on your side you can then do with it what you want 
without having to rely on any software on the remote machine.
 
I hope this helps a bit,
 
Rob
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Richard Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rob Coops wrote:

If you can make Net::Pcap connect to a remote server things
will work fine, I am not sure about using Net::Pcap to do this
as I never used it and from the description it seems to be a
packet capture lib not so much a communication one, but as I
said if you can make it reach out and talk to the other side
you should be fine.
 I think you will end up using somehting like Net::SSH or
something like that as these are more aimed at communication
then Net::Pcap seems to be.
 But in the end as long as the other side is listening on a
port and you can produce the required packets to get
communication going you should be fine, there is no need to
have perl, or any perl libs on the other side all that is
needed is an open port that you can communicate with.
The thing that is listening on that port is what determins
what you can do, read email, open and interact with files or
just browse a web page, perl on your machine cannot change
which process is listening on the other machine.
 In short I guess you can if the other machine is listening,
but you might want to use a more suitable lib for it.
 Regards,
 Rob

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Richard Lee
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   say I have big wireshark file based on remote server.

   I want to logon to that server and using Net::Pcap to poke the
   file and only grep out small portion of information which
meets my
   criteria.
   Remote server won't have Net::Pcap installed.

   I wanted to write this program w/ Expect modules and Net::Pcap
   module in my mind.
   But since these things are only located in my local server,
will
   this work on remote server?

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Hi,

local server(w/ Perl installed) --- remote
server(with Pcap file I am interested in poking around)

if I launch a perl script from my local server(using say Net::SSH)
and logs onto remote server, my perl can poke around that file on
remote server
using Net::Pcap ? So essentially in order to do this, I need
to use 2 modules(to logon, and then parsing out the pcap file)

I am thinking about writing this but just not sure if it will work
on remote server


but I am interested in grepping out the pcap file so I cannot simply 
just do grep


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RE: can perl program do this?

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Bätzler
Richard Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:

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the mail you're replying to. Thank you!]

 but I am interested in grepping out the pcap file so I cannot 
 simply just do grep

Please use some common sense. You can't use Net::Pcap on host X
to parse a file on host Y without transferring the file from host
Y to X in some way.

Please have a look at the PAR tools to find out how to bundle
a Perl interpreter and all the required libs with your program,
so that you are not dependant on the Perl installation on the
target systems.

HTH,
Thomas

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