Re: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
On Tuesday, Dec 3, 2002, at 05:11 US/Pacific, fliptop wrote: [..] if you're using redhat linux, i'd recommend using whatever rpm they have. for rh7.3, the current perl is 5.6.1. for rh8, it's 5.8.0. [..] about the only 'bug' I ran into with the rh7.3 release of 5.6.1 was that they did not build it for large files, where there might be files over 2gig - and so had to rebuild perl. If you are comfortable with 5.005_03, then the 5.6.1 is a seamless upgrade. If you already have a lot of CPAN modules then the shift to 5.8.0 will require that you rebuild them. ciao drieux --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:03:37 -0600, Scot Robnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Modules that are not pure perl have some sort of compiled supporting file associated with them True. and must be installed by root using a 'make install'. False, at least in most cases, though there may need to be other steps taken, like updating LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc. http://danconia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Was: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8, should be pure perl
If I don't have to be root or do a make install, why am I not able to get modules like Expat to install successfully, and why does their documentation tell me that's what I have to do? It seems like if there's another option, the pod docs or readme should tell me so. If there's another alternative it would be great to know what it was; can you please post a link to any help docs? Thanks. Scot R. inSite -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:55 AM To: Scot Robnett; Octavian Rasnita Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8 On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:03:37 -0600, Scot Robnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Modules that are not pure perl have some sort of compiled supporting file associated with them True. and must be installed by root using a 'make install'. False, at least in most cases, though there may need to be other steps taken, like updating LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc. http://danconia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 at 21:28, Scot Robnett opined: SR:I am working with a university on a web project which entails setting up a SR:new server. We're going with Red Hat Linux on Dell hardware (RAID 5 SR:configuration), but I am not sure which version of Perl to recommend. I am SR:very used to 5.005_03, but 5.8 is the current release. SR: SR:Do I have a large learning curve associated with going the 5.8 route as SR:opposed to 5.005_03? SR: SR:If I want to port scripts, will they need to be rewritten? SR: SR:Are there significant benefits to using 5.8? SR: SR:On one hand, I want to keep up with the Joneses and take advantage of the SR:most available power, but on the other hand, I'm used to one flavor and you SR:know what they say about fixing things that ain't broke. SR: SR:Opinions, comments, suggestions? if you're using redhat linux, i'd recommend using whatever rpm they have. for rh7.3, the current perl is 5.6.1. for rh8, it's 5.8.0. i've been using rh7.3 with the stock rpm's for perl, mod_perl and apache for some time now without any problems. and the mod_perl is compiled in as a dso, something that was problematic before. a good place to learn about the new features of the latest perl release is on perl.com: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/language/info/software.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:28:49 -0600, Scot Robnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working with a university on a web project which entails setting up a new server. We're going with Red Hat Linux on Dell hardware (RAID 5 configuration), but I am not sure which version of Perl to recommend. I am very used to 5.005_03, but 5.8 is the current release. Nice choice. I would suggest you use the latest release so that you can have all the new features if you want them, but Perl is remarkably backwards compatible so little if anything should have to change in the old scripts. Do I have a large learning curve associated with going the 5.8 route as opposed to 5.005_03? The learning curve is really as steep as you want it to be, many perlers still write what is basically perl 4 code in perl 5, that is very procedural, little scoping, etc. Others write everything in OOP with all the trimmings. Really comes down to how important effeciency on both sides aka the process itself and the design/development is to your project. If you can afford the little bit of time up front to design it more cleanly modular, etc. or whether it needs to be done yesterday may determine how many of the new features you can learn/use. If I want to port scripts, will they need to be rewritten? Doubtful, possibly a few lines of code here and there. Are there significant benefits to using 5.8? I defer to the internals gurus on this one, having some of the modules that are now standard is a big enough benefit to me, and knowing that if I ask for help and get an answer that was derived in 5.8 I don't have to be concerned about whether it will work in my version, etc. On one hand, I want to keep up with the Joneses and take advantage of the most available power, but on the other hand, I'm used to one flavor and you know what they say about fixing things that ain't broke. Yep. Really a situational question, but I would say you at least want to be running at 5.6.1 if for no other reason than to keep your own personal skills up to the current trends. Definitely have a look at the history (see perldoc perl) for the changes. You might also try installing perl 5.8 in a different location on the system, installing your app(s) and seeing if they run with that perl, then you can be sure. Opinions, comments, suggestions? Good luck. http://danconia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
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RE: 5.005_03 vs. 5.8
Thanks again everyone. Based on your input, reading the docs, and doing some evaluation of our own needs, we decided on Red Hat 8.0, which comes with Perl 5.8.0, Apache 2.0, and with the mod_perl package. It all goes on a Dell PowerEdge 2600 144 GB (108 usable) RAID 5 with a 512 MB Xeon. Sweeet. New toys! As they might say in California, like, I'm so stoked! Scot R. inSite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.005_03 vs. 5.8
I am working with a university on a web project which entails setting up a new server. We're going with Red Hat Linux on Dell hardware (RAID 5 configuration), but I am not sure which version of Perl to recommend. I am very used to 5.005_03, but 5.8 is the current release. Do I have a large learning curve associated with going the 5.8 route as opposed to 5.005_03? If I want to port scripts, will they need to be rewritten? Are there significant benefits to using 5.8? On one hand, I want to keep up with the Joneses and take advantage of the most available power, but on the other hand, I'm used to one flavor and you know what they say about fixing things that ain't broke. Opinions, comments, suggestions? - Scot Robnett inSite Internet Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
