Interactive canine holiday greeting
Type or copy and paste the below addy into your search engine and have fun. I did. xmas.emedia.co.uk/xmascard/ Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley Sequim, WA
School Fundraiser .. using Robert Duncan print
A friends daughter brought around one of those school fund raising brochures a few weeks ago .. and well this one I couldn't pass up .. variations on two Robert Duncan prints were used Snow Troopers and Celebration both with his berner were combined into a wonderful foldout cover. You can see the folded cover at this link. http://www.kathrynbeich.com/ I asked for the 'catalog' when everything was over .. and tonight I got my order and the catalog. I wish I would of asked for her to collect the catalogs from her friends. Now to frame it .. I know it will just be gorgeous .. Teresa, Patriot and Romeo Albuquerque, NM
Knee surgery at 4 months
After years of enjoying and gaining knowledge from the L, I have a difficult question that can only be addressed by the experts. On October 21 or so, we sent 6 beautiful and perfect Berner boys to their various homes. Every owner was screened and found to be highly qualified (this is our second litter in 3 yrs). Today, I got the call from a local family that their puppy (4 mos) had made a flying left turn into the kitchen. how else do they travel! and skidded on the floor leaving a huge bump on his left knee. This was several days ago and after a visit to the vet today, tapping the fluid and x-rays of both knees we learn that puppy Fenway is up for possible acl surgery. "Maybe not right away, could even be in several months". "The left knee looks pretty loose too" . We expect the verdict from a highly reputable surgeon, but I can't help but be concerned about any sort of surgery on such a young, otherwise healthy puppy (49lbs). There is so much growing going on now and in my opinion, if it ain't broke...Keep him lean, on a leash and quiet walks for the next year (groan) and let the ligaments heal, grow and strengthen. Your comments are much appreciated. Tina Gaines Garland Ridge Berners & Big Paws Boarding Ch Blackstar Hennessy CGC, NDD + Therapy Dog Extraordinaire Swiss Star Willow Surla Seine, mother B. and Queen Soon- to- be- Empress of all that wags Bofus Cat & Skinny Bones * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2A60B.41BCAB90" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Disposition-Notification-To: "Peter--
Re: mistaken identity
My favorite mistaken identity was the person who asked my if my 40 lbs black Newfie puppy (Nessie) was a Bichon. Eileen Morgan The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/2002
Adopting Older Berners
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Update on Fred Hutchinson study sample
Coleen asked for an update on the Histio research, and the bad news is that they are getting more of the samples they need. The good news is that they are getting more of the samples they need. Thanks to all of you who are participating, we owe you a great deal! http://www.bmdca.org/pages/current_research.htm Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA -- Here are the latest counts: 13 samples from dogs diagnosed with MH 6 from dogs suspected of having MH (awaiting necropsy reports or other confirmation) 27 control dogs (Berners 10 and older) 2 late onset MH (these were control dogs but were diagnosed after joining the study) 1 systemic histiocytosis To reach the 40 control dogs and 40 affected dog goal, Heidi still needs ~13 control dogs and 21-27 affected with MH.
berner sighting!!
there was a berner (& his/her owner) wandering around not far from my home today! i *never* see other berners in our town. how exciting! i wanted to say hi & pet the beautiful berner, but i was on my way to a job interview & couldn't risk being late. laura & baka chapel hill, nc
mistaken identity
I have to share this with the group. As many of you know, my Deck-dog comes to work with me, a retail shop, and often folks make a guess as to what breed he is. Since he is so over-sized most folks say St. Bernard, honest mistake tho some have been way off (labrador, springer, gordon setter to name a few). I try to give folks the benefit of the doubt at times, assuming they are just saying the wrong breed when they mean another...one person asked me if he was a greyhound, I assumed they meant Gt. Pyr. Well, today the sweetest lady, bless her heart, looked at Deck and asked if he was a Cavalier King Charles. I did not laugh, honest. I asked her if she was thinking about another breed, she said no, Cavaliers have the brown dots above the eyes. Too true. Happy Holidays to all, Patt
RE Need advice--enlarged scrotum
Hi, I am a people doctor not a vet. If you only use the anti-inflammatory sparingly (longest interval between doses) a short course will probably not hurt the kidneys (this is what we do in people) If you want to avoid it-tell your vet-they should respond to your concerns. Good luck. Connie Nichols (MD) & Penny the 5 month old wonder girl
Re: Melatonin question
Do any of you give it to your dogs and if so, how much, how often and how long before the scary noises start? And, more importantly, if you have tried it, were you pleased with the effect? Did it work or not really? Michaela, I tried Melatonin for my Aussie. Not for noise but for separation anxiety. He would stand in his crate the whole time we were gone. If left out, he would frantically search the house and by the time he figured out that he couldn't find us, he was so worked up that he would start destroying things. So I dosed him with 300 MCG of melatonin (Barney is under 50 pounds.) about two hours before we were going to leave. When we returned it was obvious that he had relaxed in his crate. I repeated this twice more. Then we had to leave him suddenly and didn't have time to dose him. We put him in his crate and he relaxed immediately. I haven't had to use it since and the treatment was about nine months ago. I still crate him when we leave as our Berner is intact and 18 months old. I just don't want to take a chance that tempers might flare when we're not around. Claudia Brydon in NW PA Barney OA NAJ (Aussie) Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog) Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog)
re: Puppy Leash Training
but does anyone have any suggestions for a stubborn walker? Jay, I had to laugh! Your Hadley is doing exactly the same thing as my Boomer did at that age. My suggestion is to go away from your property just a short distance and then turn around and enjoy her enthusiasm returning home. That's what we did and Boomer soon outgrew his reluctance about leaving home (by about nine months). Now, at 18 months he wants to walk with us a far as we want to go and is also becoming a superb agility dog. Claudia Brydon in NW PA Barney OA NAJ (Aussie) Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog) Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog)
Melatonin question
Could anyone please tell me how to dose and administer Melatonin? We are taking the boys on vacation with us and we'll spend New Year in a hotel with fireworks all around us. Rupert couldn't care less about bangs but Harvey does get really stressed by them and apparently Melatonin takes the edge of the nervousness. I have tried Rescue Remedy repeatedly without any success thus I'm pinning my hopes on Melatonin. Do any of you give it to your dogs and if so, how much, how often and how long before the scary noises start? And, more importantly, if you have tried it, were you pleased with the effect? Did it work or not really? Many thanks! Michaela, Harvey & Rupert Devon/UK
Re: Eukanuba Classic Invitational
Congratulations Sindi & Gunner on your BOB wins, and on Gunner's Breed & All Breed ranking! Sounds like you were able to "hold it together" better than you actually thought you were! : ) Happy Holidays! Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com
FW: Begging!!
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re: Poopin' Puppy Problems
Hi, There are a variety of possibilities as to why this has started, one of which is that there could be a medical/disease problem, and it is always wise to rule those out with a Vet check. Another: her diet could be wrong/too rich/too much fibre. She could have been left confined too long, forced to eliminate in the crate and now the previous smell stimulates her need to go. Once that smell is there, it is a strong stimulus for elimination. And then there is the obvious: she may not have been fully trained, had an accident in the crate and now the smell causes her to go - even if washed, she probably can still smell it on the bedding! Here's what I would do: Have her examined by the Vet, go back to square one in house training and make sure I carefully monitor her - taking her out after eating and drinking and after sleeping or exercise and play. Since it sounds like she is only eliminating in areas where she is confined and then eliminated and now has the odor, those are the things to pay attention to in re-training. Make sure she knows the proper area where you want her to go and reward her there when she does! Make sure she isn't confined for too long, and if you can buy new bedding and totally manage her so she doesn't ever have a chance to soil it, it will likely save some grief. Maybe use towels, if she doesn't chew/eat towels, for her bedding which can't be reused if she has an accident! When you are past this bump in the road, then buy her some nice new bedding. Management, especially never letting elimination occur in the wrong place, after a vet check is usually what it takes to get back on track. Good luck and let us know how things go. Oh, and give her a belly rub from me. Jill with Indie and Gabby
Puppy Leash Training
Hello All, I've been reading the Berner digests for a few months now, as I am the new owner of a Berner pup, Hadley, who is 10 weeks old. I have a question regarding leash training. Hadley is doing great...she can already sit, stay and come. She is basically very good on a leash, but we run into problems on our morning and evening walks from our house. We live on a busy street, so we cross the street on our walks to get to a dead-end street that is much more quiet. Walking away from the house is a real hassle. Hadley clearly doesn't like to leave her house/yard. Once we're on our dead-end street, she'll more often than not, park herself and start whimpering. I have her on a flexi-lead and will walk to the end of it...she will come for a treat, but will once again sit in the middle of the street and whimper. Often she will beg to be picked up and carried. I've taken to "waiting her out", giving her encouragment when she finally gets off her behind and heads in the right direction, but she can be stubborn. I don't want to make walks tramatic for her or drag her down the street, but she seems like a real homebody. The walk home is a joy...and she often breaks into a trot as we get closer to the house. If I drive her in the car somewhere (like my workplace), she behaves perfectly on her leash - it is more of a neighborhood issue. I think, perhaps, she sees our yard (11 acres) as a much more "fun" place than walking on a lousy dead-end street (I should note that we are walking on a paved street, as much of our 11 acres is now mud and lake after 12 inches of rain during the last week). I certainly don't expect her to be perfect at this stage, but does anyone have any suggestions for a stubborn walker? Thanks, Jay Maddox & Hadley Santa Rosa, CA
RE: Eukanuba Classic Invitational
Well Im finally back from Orlando Florida where the weather there was 73 when we arrived on the 10th of December. I was peeling clothes off as we travelled further south. It was nice while it lasted, now Im back up north and freezing.sigh. Wednesday we made our way to the Waterhouse Center to set up our grooming stuff and to walk around. I was amazed at the setup, it was the same as Westminister but larger and the show was not benched. At least I didnt feel like a sardine in a can at this location. We were given a bag lunch but I was too nervous to eat it but my husband volunteered to eat the bag lunch for me. Time to show, and I wore a wild blazer for the judge, my daughter was appalled that I would wear anything this loud and I was amazed that I could still fit into the jacket as it had not been worn in 10 years! I was a nervous wreck, apparently I did not realize this but I guess I was a tad bossy to my husband and a Malinois friend of mine who was with us that also qualified to show. I started belting out orders and not realizing it, they forgave me in the end and my girlfriend had never seen me quite like this. I felt like a total novice all of the sudden with the atmosphere and all the dogs and show people from everywhere! Im surprised I remembered what I was doing LOL! Gunner was a good boy and didnt try any antics in the ring on this particular day. I have had to put alot of training into this dog to keep his head up, when first taking this dog out to dog shows he was worst outdoors than indoors as he wanted to sniff the ground all the way around the ring, the more I attempted to pull up the more he would fight the collar and pull down. We have gotten him out of this habit thank goodness. Then he has become so fickle as I have had a handler on him after we qualified for this event and he has decided he is mommified to the point I had to leave the building and now when I show him he has decided to become attached to daddy, looking all over for him. Sheesh! When the judge pointed at Gunner for the breed my husband told me he didnt know if I was going to puke or cry, as I had that look on my face. Good thing I had makeup on or I guess I would have turned all white! I just felt numb and happy at the same time and was happy this was over with. This was quite an experience and I was very pleased to have been able to make it to Florida with only 4 months to qualify this dog for this event. During the groups I was much more calm than I was during the day, hopefully we will get to see the berner on tv as they did not show the berner on tv with the Philly show. I caught a glimpse of the dog during that televised event. My daughter told me she would die if I wore that blazer on tv! We stayed through the weekend and took the breed all three days in Orlando to finish off the season. Since being in what I call a training mode, Gunner is now ranked all breed and breed, and now the seriousness of all this starts in January but thank goodness I get two weeks off so that I can recouperate from sore muscles and shin splints and the worst part of all this is that I get to start from the beginning of the year instead of a portion of the year. Oh well I love the dog shows or wouldnt be going through all of this. Pat I havent forgotten about the brag fund! Sindi Leo L-Sin BMDs Sumerduck, VA
Re: Need advice--enlarged scrotum
Also, be careful of Rimadyl - some dogs have an allergic reaction to it. We had Baloo neutered when we got him (age 6 yrs). His scrotum swelled after the surgery and he licked at the area a lot. The Vet put him on Rimadyl and he got like a crazy person - pacing, panting, couldn't stay still, jumped at every little noise or movement. After 3 days of this craziness, we couldn't stand it anymore and took him off the Rimadyl - the nervous symptoms stopped. We also used a (prescribed) spray-on topical analgesic - sprayed the area 2X daily to ease irritation & promote healing. We also had to use one of those collars to prevent him from licking so the incision area would have a chance to heal up. Liz Steinweg & The Crew Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte "Baloo" - our rescue Berner-boy! Bobby Sox (husky-x), Figaro (20+ lb Forest Cat) Rio & Sahara (the "Rat Cats") and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00) Colorado Springs CO http://www.csbservices.com/personal/personal.htm
Begging!!
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RE: BERNER-L digest 4184
Please disconnect e mails to this address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks -Original Message- From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:01 PM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: BERNER-L digest 4184 BERNER-L Digest 4184 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Carob by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2) Re: SARDS by "Emma Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3) Health Articles, ED, Histio, etc by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4) BERNER-L digest by "Bonnie ?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5) Re: Carob by "Patricia Tackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6) Re: carting, training, and retrieve by "Emma Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7) RE: Carob by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8) Re: dandruff problems by "Emma Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9) RE: dandruff problems by "Karen McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10) RE: Aeryn does it again! by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11) Poopin' Puppy Problems by Gregory Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12) Re: BERNER-L digest 4183 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Molly is home! by "Martha Hoverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14) Dealing with Grief -- Good Book by Suzanne Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15) dogs and bloat/torsion by Bernadette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16) Need advice--enlarged scrotum by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Various Berner questions by "Joe Cheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18) ED surgury v.s. no surgury by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Hootie 4.Jan.1997- 16.Dec.2002 by Sylvia Katvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20) Missing Link by "STEVEN SQUILLANTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21) huge, floppy, cuddly stuffed berners by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) PVBMDC Specialty by Robin Disler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23) Re: ED surgury v.s. no surgury by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Missing Link by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: BERNER-L digest 4183 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) ad in dog fancy by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27) MS in Berner? by Patti Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28) Re: BERNER-L digest 4174 by George & Diana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 29) Re: BERNER-L digest 4175 by George & Diana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Need advice--enlarged scrotum
Hi Dottie- Swelling of the scrotum is not uncommon when older dogs/older adolescent dogs are castrated. They simply have a lot of skin, and the potential for that sac to fill with fluid is sometimes expected. You may try to place a cool compress on the area, to reduce the swelling. Treat the area as if he was punched in the face, and there is a lot of swelling...it is just the other end! Sometimes a veterinarian will need to place a needle in the scrotal sac, to remove the excess fluid. Sometimes they decide to do a scrotal ligation and remove the extra skin altogether. It really depends on the circumstances involved. Most cases will resolve over a few days with cool compresses 2-3 times daily, minimal activity, and pain medication. After the scrotum starts to shrink on it's own, the problem will cease to exist. Rimadyl is 'probably' your best option for pain relief, since buffered aspirin is an anticoagulant...and that would prevent the blood from clotting...and it would continue to fill the scrotal sac. As far as his blood pressure goes, many clinics have a doppler in their clinic these days. You could request to have his blood pressure checked every few days if that concerns you. Take Care, Jennie Hoffnagle Glenmoore, PA
AOL Problems
Thanks to all of you who wrote with ideas, just to clarify - I am unable to reply to any AOL addresses, so if I don't respond to you, you'll know why! AOL is rejecting all of my emails. As best as I can figure, concentric.net is now identified by AOL as a source of spam, so it has all been banned by them. That's how spam is going to eventually shut down the Internet - with every Server banning every other Server as a possible source of spam. So if any of you AOL people would like to contact AOL and let them know that concentric.net is not all spam, it would be very helpful! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
Sascha's Achates
Hi Everybody, Yesterday I received a call from "Trooper's" owner to tell me that he was helped over the Rainbow Bridge last Saturday. Trooper weighed in at 310grams on the 9th January,1990, just a little scrap of a puppy who grew into a magnificent and handsome fellow. He died just a short time before his thirteenth birthday and will be sorely missed by his family. Trooper is the last of my first litter to leave this world, I am very proud that this lovely dog lived a long and healthy life. Many thanks to Janet Wright and her family for all the love and care they shared with Trooper. Sascha's Achates (9th January,1990-14th December,2002) sired by Danish/Canadian Champion Tertzo's Djanis out of Tertzo's Jessica (Denmark) Rose Tierney
Re: SARDS
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4184
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Re:SARDS
Chlamydia in dogs
Hello, This is an unusual question, but I am wondering if anyone knows if this disease has been found in dogs before? What symptoms would one look for in a dog? Online vet' source? My Sophia does like to scrounge under the bird feeders in our yard, when given the chance. At the web page below they do mention a type of cat chlamydia and that this disease can exist in one of its forms from birds, humans, other animals and even marine animals. http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/chlamydiosis.html thanks, Joan Ontario "A person who can not love and be loved by a pet leaves the best part of their soul undiscovered."-Author Unknown.
extra skin
Someone recently made a comment about all the extra skin their dog has. I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time is all that extra skin normal? Louis resembles a cement mixer when he breaks into a trot. He's a big fluffy boy and I've never thought of him as fat but two people have commented that perhaps he's carrying a little extra weight. I can feel his ribs easily. Rhona and Louis in The Netherlands __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
AOL problems?
Everything that I send to any aol email address is being rejected, all it says is: " 550-The information presently available to AOL indicates that your server" Which is really not that helpful a message. Is anyone else having similar problems? Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
My Romy
Hi all, I've been on this list from September, of course I found the main page before and have to say I don't regret to join this huge comunity...it's really amazing how people share so usefull informations...Huge thank to all of you. My Romy is 14 month old and for her first birthday she got her own web site...which is not finished but it will be one day. I would like to wish Merry Holidays to all of you...and don't forget on your bernese...they need attention all the time :)). Klara&Romy, Slovenia http://www.geocities.com/bmd_romy
