Florida trip
Hi all! Is anyone out there from Florida? Cooper and I are coming home for a LONG visit to see the grandparents! I'd love to get together! Lindsay and Cooper http://supercooper10.tripod.com/dog/
Xrays-Who pays
In a message dated 2/18/2003 10:06:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who pays for the wrays? The breeder or the owner? The owner. Some breeders include a 'retainer' to cover xrays and neutering when you buy the puppy, then refund that money to you when you've done them...but it's your money they're giving back so I consider it the owner's expense. You're probably asking Why should the owner pay the cost of information to help the breeder? The answer is that the information benefits everyone; the breeder, the owner, and the breed. Janice talked about how the information benefits the owner, and it's true. As my dogs have aged, it's been very helpful knowing their orthopedic status. We expect breeders to evaluate their dogs for hereditary disease before breeding them. Certainly a dog affected by a hereditary disease like HD or ED is more likely to produce affected puppies than a dog that's not affected. But...these are polygentic traits (more than one gene involved) so it's not that simple. For polygenic hereditary disease, the majority of the information breeders need in order to make informed decisions is stored in the black beasties sleeping on our couches! Asking breeders to reduce hereditary disease without screening our companion dogs is asking them to build a Lincoln Log tower while wearing a straight jacket. At some point, years ago, I found that I care deeply about the breed as a whole...not just my own dogs. That translates into support for rescue, research, public education, learning about the standard, AND... doing everything I can to reduce the incidence of hereditary disease in our breed. That starts at home. :-) -Sherri Venditti Kalie, spayed at 7 mo OFA hips elbows, CERF eyes Simca, spayed at 6 mo, GDC hips elbows, PennHIP, CERF eyes, OFA cardiac Granger (intact), OFA hip elbows, PennHIP, CERF, OFA cardiac, vWD DNA, AKC DNA.
Re: shots
In a message dated 2/11/2003 3:41:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry I can't remember who it was but a few weeks ago someone posted a letter from their vet discussing the why's and wherefore's of how and when we should vaccinate. I think they were going to follow it up with the vet and let us know more. Anyone remember this? I'm not sure if you might be referring to my favorite article on designing a vaccination protocol. This is on the IVIS website which is non-profit and targeted to vets. Here's the URL but you might have to register with IVIS to gain access. No charge, no spam, no problem g. http://www.ivis.org/advances/Infect_Dis_Carmichael/schultz/chapter_frm.asp?LA= 1 -Sherri Venditti
Re:Lots of Berner wishes needed!
- Original Message - From: Cecilia Ståhl To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Re:Lots of Berner wishes needed! Dear Claire, Hi, my name is Cecilia Ståhl, I live in Stockholm, Sweden with my 3½ year old intact male Berner, Griffin. I'm sorry to hear that Lazarus has fallen ill. I think I might be able to send you some words of hope and encouragement. My Griffin had what is called a fibrocartilagenous emboli when he was just 16 months old, on February 17, 2001. This is commonly referred to as a spinal stroke. His right hindquarter was completely paralysed and he was unable to stand or walk. Griffin was hospitalised for 8 days, receiving high doses of steroids to reduce the swelling in the spinal cord during that time. When it was time to go over to oral doses, Griffin was ready to come home. He was emaciated, had lost all muscle tone in the effected side and was really a miserable sight. I took 3 weeks off work and nursed him at home. By the end of those three weeks he was on his feet again, though not placing his paw properly but rather standing with his paw folded under his foot. I made a protective dressing for his paw to prevent sores and to increase his traction, I purchased a rubber boot which he wore both indoors and out. He was very unsteady and I taped mats on all the bare floors indoors in paths so he wouldn't slip when hobbling around. The whole world around me stopped that spring, all my energy was focused on getting my Griffin back on track. Well Claire, it all paid off. Today Griffin can run like the wind. He does have a slight limp and can't trot anymore, but he is completely ok otherwise. So don't despair, Claire, I'm sure Lazarus will be okay if this is the same illness that Griffin had. Please feel free to email me privately with updates on your boy or if you have questions. I have included a couple of pictures of Griffin. The first one is from hydrotherapy, which we did 2 times a week until the end of June. The second one is from January of this year, running in the snow. These I have removed in the copy to the list : ). Take care and many Berner hugs to you and Lazarus Cecilia Ståhl and Griffin in Sweden
Re: Attracting aggression from other dogs?
In a message dated 2/18/2003 8:25:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All dog-dog interactions are much less complicated for a neutered dog (and less nerve wracking for you as well!) For the most part this is very true. However, having a neutered male doesn't always gurarantee you peace from other intact males. Absolutely! The only sure thing in dogs is that there's NO sure thing! Thanks for bringing this up Marjie! -Sherri V.
Re: (OT) Re: scrapple
I won't even go into the whole Haggis thing... Ask the residents of Holly Cottage at last year's Specialtyg. Mind you, that was a tinned one, so there was a perfectly good excuse for it to explode all over the kitchen walls, window and ceiling Ah, yes, the Haggis Incident. It was offal. G Janice Parky Cape Cod, MA
RE: Attracting aggression from other dogs?
Hi Martin, His hormones shouldn't be an attraction for other species but his presence might just as your's might out on your mountain hikes:-) Just take the usual precautions. If you feel you still would like to try showing then go ahead, we have puppy classes and you can enter those now and see if you like the showdog scene. Talk to your breeder about his show potential and ask for their input and assistance in meeting your goals. There are responsibilities to be kept when keeping an intact male but they are not insurmountable. It is important whether or not you choose to keep him intact to continue with his education because it will make him a good citizen and easier to live with. Rose T.
RE: Frontline Allergic Reaction
Hi Kaethy, Sounds like Ginger found the Frontline irritating and scratched and in doing so set herself a nice hotspot. Here's my recommendation:-) Trim the fur from the affected areas with a one inch margin and bathe gently with Hibitaine Soap, rinse and pat dry with paper towel. Do not rub or use a heated dryer but you can use the dryer with a cool setting but shouldn't be necessary. Ask the vet for a corticosteroid topical spray, I use Topagen, and spritz twice a day. DO NOT use polysporin as it has a greasy base and hot spots need air to heal. If the area spreads and looks particularly nasty or she raises a temperature (normal is 38.5C) then she needs antibiotics. You can also give Benedryl or other antihistimine and your vet can prescribe dosage. Keep her from scratching further and if necessary put an old cotton T-Shirt on her. Rose T.
Re: The Haggis Explosion Episode!!
BERNER-L Digest 4282 -- From: Liz Bradbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (OT) Re: scrapple I won't even go into the whole Haggis thing... Ask the residents of Holly Cottage at last year's Specialtyg. Mind you, that was a tinned one, so there was a perfectly good excuse for it to explode all over the kitchen walls, window and ceiling - and Carol Slider. Well, the dogs liked it! Aah, memories :-). I will never, ever forget meeting Liz Bradbury, who is from Scotland! She is a wonderful English young lady and we hit it off right away at the Holly Cottage at the WVa specialty. Being that we all took turns cooking dinners for each other, Liz decided to open this can of Haggis that she brought with her. Said it was a delicious delicacy from England.I couldn't wait to taste it! Little did I know that it would explode upon opening, spraying everything in sight, including me!! It was on my clothes, in my hair, and on my faceI was a MESS but smelled great as far as the dogs went! They followed me around as if I were their dinner! Don't ask me what the heck it tasted like but I 'wore' it very well! g Guess I will have to give it another try someday, if I am lucky enough to visit Liz in her homeland. But I still love you Liz...no matter what!! As far as Scrapple goes...grew up with it as my parents were from Baltimore MD and it was a staple in most households. The best is from the Eastern Shores of MD and delicious when fried crisp and served with eggs and good toast- good stuff! My dogs will sit and drool long, slimy strands when I cook it. Of course, they both get some in their dinners with scrambled eggs mixed inthey love it! Carol Slider in NC, who will never forget the Haggis Shower!
Re: Dog Park Incident
I think dogs definitely distinguish between breeds. Bowie, a golden I loved, and his owner were attacked by a husky running loose in the dog park (without an owner) - the husky attacked Bo first, then when Mike went to separate the dogs, he bit Mike. From that point on, Bowie could not go into the dog park if there was a husky type dog there - he would take off like a shot from a longgg distance to go get that dog. He never forgot. He was also bitten in the face by a black lab as a young pup, about nine weeks of age, but seemed to forget that one (or had deserved it by being puppy-rude, who knows) but didn't hold a grudge against black labs. Jen At 01:42 PM 18/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: Her male was attacked as a pup, twice by Golden Retrievers. I he now attacks Golden Retrievers but is fine (so far) with other dogs. Do you think a dog can really differentiate between breeds?
Children's Dog Training Books?
Any recommendations from the list regarding a good positive training book for a precocious 9yr old? I remember reading Carol Lea Benjamin's _Dog Training For Kids_ when I was his age (taking it out from the library for months on end), and wonder what's out there these days that would be good. Jen P.S. I've been reading recommendations for Culture Clash and Don't Shoot The Dog for years - now have FINALLY purchased them and wish I had done so years ago! WOW!
Did Hugo move his paws in the pool?
We had to postpone Hugo's second hydro-therapy session due to diarrhea and a possible infection. Today with the vet's blessing we returned to San Diego with high hopes. My friend Dawn was sure that he'd move his front paws this time because he has been moving them slightly, on command, when lying down this past week. The therapist first used an electromagnetic impulse machine on him and we got the contraction reaction we had hoped for. But in the water he was like last time, just letting his legs hang down lifelessly. My heart sunk. I was completely in the pool this time helping and holding Hugo's head up when suddenly I hear a scream from behind me. Dawn was beside the pool with her back to the water, squatting to pick up the treats when she lost her balance. She tried to throw her weight forward but went up in the air and -- fully clothed -- flipped backwards and landed head first in the pool. I didn't see any of this, I turned to see her tennis shoes on her feet sticking out of the water like some cartoon. Surprisingly she didn't resurface immediately. It was that horrible moment, the moment that's often the subject of jokes or conjecture, where you have to choose between your dog and your friend. I confess, I hung onto Hugo, keeping his head out of water while the therapist grabbed Dawn by her legs. She came up smiling, thank goodness, and proceeded to stay in the pool with us, fully dressed, cheering Hugo on. Maybe it was the shock of all this but for whatever reason Hugo started *kicking* his back legs. It was beautiful, you can imagine, a lovely swimming motion which he repeated for several little laps while the therapist held and moved him along. On his last lap he added the right front paw to the thrill of all of us. By now there were several other dog owners there as well as the wonderful person who had originally recommended this therapist, and a host of dogs all marveling at Hugo's first baby swimming steps. Donna and Hugo, 8 yr old, 4/02 surgery for ruptured neck disc, recovered 95%, 12/02 second neck disc surgery, possible spinal stroke; Feb 1 setback, stopped moving legs; now working hard to come back
Re: Lots of Berner wishes needed!
Claire - my prayers are headed your way for Lazarus' full recovery. I am very hopeful for you, look at what you named him. Donna and Hugo
Frontline info
Chance had the same reaction to Frontline, and one of the techs at my vet, who is not in today, said to bath him immediatly in some kid of soap that I couldn't remember, so I called Frontline and they said to use any regular dish soap like Palmolive, etc. It pulls the residue off the skin and dries it out. It did work well for my Chance, but it may be too late for your your dog. Their number is 800-660-1842, Maybe Benedryl would help, but I would ask first! Tailwags from Snowey CT, Daisy and Chance
Marginheight
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Editing BERNER Photos
I'm stretching to make this Berner related, but don't know who else to ask. I had someone take photos of the three ITA therapy Berners in Bozeman, hoping their photo would be chosen for ITA's beautiful calendar next year. Unfortunately, one of the dogs was without her bright red uniform scarf. As I was the only one wrangling 300 pounds of snow-smitten Berners, who would rather be playing than sitting still for photos, I didn't notice it. Now, with the finished photos (digital), it's quite obvious and the picture would be SO MUCH BETTER if that third scarf were added. So -- I would think there's some way to cut a scarf out of one of the rejected photos (right size, right position) and paste it onto the naked dog in the good photo. Plus, one of the photos is great except that there is an obvious pink object centered between my boy's front legs (boys!). Is there a reasonably-priced computer program to work this editing magic, like Photo Editing for Dummies (emphasis on the dummy part)? Help me, please, get the Bozeman Berners in the calendar!! Vicky Whitney in Bozeman, Montana, with Blackcoral Divine Miss M (Maddie) CD NDD CGC Delta/ITA Therapy Dog and Sascha's Ursa Major CGC Delta/ITA Therapy Dog _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Thank you.
A fellow BARC mommy has sent a donation for Hope. (So we at BEHAF are happy to collect for Hope even though we don't have her up on our site as a Special Friend yet. And to extend Thanks on behalf of Kelly and Hope, wishing them the best too. Dino for BEHAF
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Re: Children's Dog Training Books?
I can't recommend a specifc book, but kids LOVE clicker training! My young nephews picked it up in a flash when they visited and they still run to the drawer and pull out the clicker every time they visit. I think they see it like a super hero tool g. -Sherri Venditti
berner communication
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Moses Update: Weds., at veterinary clinic
Moses' veterinarian and his internal medicine doctor at Angell feel that there is a strong possibility that Moses' osteosarcoma has returned, to his spine. Plain radiographs at Angell do not demonstrate this but they are crude as a diagnostic tool for such. A myelogram, bone scan, CT scan would be the best diagnostic tools. Moses' is spending the night at the veterinary clinic, where he was re-admitted this morning so they can keep him hydrated and relieve the bad back pain which he is experiencing. Too, if he cannot or will not urinate, he will be catheterized there. He is resting comfortably there. His prognosis is uncertain and I am feeling that special sort of agony in my heart that many a devoted pet parent experiences when his or her angel is suffering. Moses' treatment team consists of my dogs' regular veterinarian since 1983, his internal medicine specialist at Angell Memorial Animal Hospital in Boston and their oncology staff and the veterinarian who performs aquapuncture on Moses; she is a Cornell educated veterinarian who is also certified in such. My dogs' regular veterinarian sent us to her last year to join those seeking good health for Moses, who was experiencing immune-mediated polyarthritis at the time. She called me this evening and wants to make a special trip to our regular veterinarian's clinic to visit Moses and perhaps do a treatment. Of course, I said yes! God bless her! Lisa Allen _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Editing BERNER Photos
Vicky If you would care to send it to us Pat more than likely remove the pink candle you speak of, :-) and put a red scarf on the other Berner for you. Just send it as an email attachment. Ray Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Shadow Max www.goodbernerfood.com http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/ Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep
