titles
titles that a neutered dog can still do (bernese) - obedience, tracking, agility, draft, herding. obedience level 1 - novice - companion dog - cd level 2 - open - companion dog excellent - cdx level 3 - utility - utility dog - ud continuing competition in open & utility can earn utility dog excellent - udx obedience trial champion - otch tracking level 1 - tracking dog -td level 2 - tracking dog excellent - tdx variable surface tracking - vst (i think that's right) if your dog earns all 3 titles, s/he is a champion tracker - ct agility someone else will have to do this one, but each level has 4 titles - standard, jumpers, preferred standard, & preferred jumpers. my favourite agility title abbreviation is nap - novice agility preferred. my dogs are good at napping. the top title in agility is master agility champion - mach. there are several levels of this. draft bmdca draft has 4 titles novice draft dog - ndd open draft dog - dd novice brace draft dog - bndd open brace draft dog - bdd ckc draft has 2 titles novice draft dog - dd open draft dog - ddx herding - i don't know too much about this one, but i know that berners can earn herding titles with the ahba. the beginning title is junior herding dog - jhd. since i went to all this trouble, i want to remind people, that if you have a barc adoptee & you ilp him/her with akc & earn a first level title - either a cd, td, na, naj, nap, najp, jhd, or ndd, i will send you out a goodie. actually i would extend this to any ilp'd rescue berner. send me a copy of the title certificate & your address & i will send them out while they last. working dogs should work! lisa baldwin (dickens, bark & zel) seattle, wa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Big Brag
As a relative newbie to Berner-dom, can someone tell me what all these abbreviations stand for? It's all alphabet soup to me. :p Also, which ones (if any) of these titles can a dog still compete for, after he's been neutered? I used to know most of the abbreviations used in AOL chat rooms, but I've been out of the loop for a long while... TTKIR (trying to keep it real), - Alex Ford "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde > [Original Message] > From: Bonnie Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Berner list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 3/3/2003 8:27:43 AM > Subject: Big Brag > > Hi everyone, > This is to let everyone on the list know that my berner just finished = > his UKC Championship this past week-end. He is now U-CH, U-CD Pegasus = > Azure Long-Time-Commin CD, CGC. And Certified Therapy Dog. Let me know = > who to send my brag funds to. Now, it's on to open work. He is also = > training for his draft title and tracking. Hope everyone has a great = > day. Hug your furry ones. Bonnie Conrad
Paw Licking
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Re: Maddy's big brag
CONGRATULATIONS Peggy and Maddy.What a wonderful accomplishment and it speaks to both of your talent!! No raffle to spend brag money on, I guess I'll have to spend it at the Specialty. * Oh...BUT there IS a fundraiser going on right now!!! And, you can also spend money at the Specialty!!! Would you like me to tell you about our current fundraiser?Of course I know you do!! Willem Wijnberg, a hobby artist from the Netherlands has donated two more lovely paintings of Berners to help raise money for cancer research in the study being done in the Ostrander Lab at The Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington. Heidi Parker and her colleagues are trying to identify the DNA variants that cause Malignant Histiocytosis. The efforts of these researchers will, it is hoped, lead, in the next three to four years, to a DNA test using associated markers for this disease. Karen Pickel has once again made a terrific website for our fundraiser, so you can see Willem's paintings. Be sure to check it out and to also click on the link for information on the study and read about how you and your Berner can help: http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/ The first painting (14 x 10 inches) - Willem titled this painting "Mother and Daughter." This is based on a beautiful photo that Pat Long took of Dottie Schulte's two Berners, who were father and son. The second painting (14 x 10 inches) - Willem named this painting "NEW HAPPINESS" and is a puppy from the litter of Fiona Gordon. The puppy's name is Bella. Be sure to read the story of this title on Karen Pickel's web site. The fundraiser runs from February 25th through April 5th, 2003. I have given the price of tickets in ten different currencies so it is easier for those not living in the USA to send in their contributions to this fundraiser. Jean Cheesman and Willem Wijnberg have already contacted clubs in several other countries about publicizing this fundraiser among it's members. If you are sending US fund, please make your checks payable to "AKC CHF" (contributions to AKC CHF are tax deductible and are matched at 50% by the AKC) and in the memo part of your check, write "Grant #2214." As usual, I can accept foreign cheques, with no extra charge from my bank. Make these cheques payable to "Joye M. Neff," so I can convert them to US dollars. Please mail your check to: Joye M. Neff 1182 Firwood Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15243-1825 Please send me the following information with your check: Name Address Phone Number E-Mail Address How you want to distribute your tickets Willem insisted that this fundraiser be in memory of my Berner, Winston, who lost the battle to Malignant Histiocytosis on Jan. 4th, 2003 at the age of 'almost five years old.' I insisted that the fundraiser be in memory of all Berners who have lost their lives to this terrible cancer. We compromised and it is for both! Jean Cheesman, from the UK, has made a wonderful Histio Roll Call web site that has photos and stories of some of the Berners who left their owners much too soon because of this disease. Be sure that you visit the site to see these very special, loving Berners: http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm Last year, we raised a total of $5595 for the study of malignant histiocytosis. I would like us to TOP that number with this fundraiser. Remember that the AKC matches your donation at a rate of 50% so for every dollar you give, fifty cents is donated as a matching amount. So far, we have raised $270 for the fund.we have a LONG way to go, and I'm counting on each of you to help! Please help us fight Malignant Histiocytosis. There are far too many young and old Berners who lose the battle to this terrible disease every day. We need to find a way to eliminate Malignant Histiocytosis. Won't you please be part of the solution - we CAN and WILL make a difference!! Joye Neff and Nick (Ben) In memory of Winston Poohbear (1998-2003) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Re: Had enough
Kenny- I am sensing that your inquiry caused you receive more negative feedback than positive. Your "Pros" are right on. As for the negatives, they are in the eye of the beholder. Berner fur in my ice cubes or butter does not bother me. Yes, if my mother is visiting, it bothers her, so she visits less often. This is a positive. Tens of thousands in vet bills??? Naahhh, I think an exaggeration. Not the average case scenario. House too small? A laid back Berner would be fine in a small house or apartment as long as they had daily exercise. The fur balls are a gift. They cling together, they float, they drift. They have a life of their own. It's almost like having another dog in the house, one who can fly! The life expectancy is an average. It is part of the gamble you take when you welcome a Berner into your heart and your home. Happy in your lifestyle? Berners LOVE their people above anything else. A breeder who is looking to find the right home for one of her pups, will make sure the pup you get fits your lifestyle. The key is finding a breeder who you respect and one who respects you, your lifestyle and your expectations. All that being said, my first Berner had 3 surgeries in his first 10 months, and died at age 4 1/2. Would I do it again? You betcha. And, I have. A rescue, Hungarian import with no health history, no breeder to consult with, no guarantees. Why? Because I love this breed. An unhappy Berner is one who is neglected, spends too much time alone and does not get the love, attention, and training from it's family. Not one who lives on the third floor of a town house. The key is researching and finding the right breeder for you. Peace back atcha- Janice Parky and Halley Cape Cod, MA > At this point I am taking a break from pooch research! > > Berner Pros: > Unconditional love and companionship > > Cons: > Hair in my ice trays and butter tray > tens of thousands of dollars in vet bills > 7.5 life expectancy > my home is too small ? > can I handle the fur balls? > Some Berner owners seem to want to discourage others from them? > Will a berner be happy in my life style? > Finally, Tonight a breeder from Albany told me she would not sell me a pup > because I live in a town home and I have three flights of stairs! I don't > want an unhappy berner. > > Peace Out All! > > Kenny > >
Mary Townsend
On 2/28/02 Bobbie Hefner wrote: "I got my first Bernese Mountain Dog from Mary Townsend. Ch Vonbreiterwegs Swiss Lace , Reg. therapy Dog, became the foundation bitch to Swiss Star Farms. Her first daughter remains alive at almost 14. Over the years, Mary and I had our disagreements, yet I remained always loyal to her and thankful. For if it was not for her trust in me, I would never have been able to accomplish what I have done in the world of dogs. I told her that a hundred times over the years she was alive and for that I am even more thankful. So take a moment to remember who started you on the way to loving a Bernese Mountain Dog and thank that person while they are still around to hear you." When I read this, I was quite saddened and dismayed to hear that Mary Townsend had passed away. My family got our first berner from Mary back in 1982; she and her husband Walt will always hold a special place in my heart. I was also quite surprised to think that Mary had died and no one had mentioned it, nor had any kind of tribute been done. I asked some friends to please confirm Mary's passing. Elizabeth Pearson, also shocked to hear of the loss, immediately started thinking of ways we could pay her tribute in the Alpenhorn. Imagine my joy upon discovering from Sylvia Howison that Mary is actually alive and quite well, as is her husband Walt! She was also quite amused at the report of her demise. On behalf of Mary, the reports of her death have been greatly exaggerated! Karyn Beyer, with Spencer and Cooper (and Cricket in my heart) Mt. Shasta, CA
Re: speciality donations
Hi Jeannie, Thank you for getting such a wonderful item for the Specialty Raffle for us. It makes our job much easier when we have assistance from other people. We are still accepting items for the 2003 Specialty Raffle - so if anyone has any spare Berner items around or if you know anyone who might want to donate an item or two to the raffle, please contact either Pat Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can send your raffle items to: Dana Ledbetter Pero 10016 Albee Avenue Tustin, CA 92782-1452 (714) 734-8470 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send her a note when you mail your raffle item to her so she can watch for its safe arrival. Thank you again for getting us such a terrific item for the raffle. Joye Neff 2003 Specialty Raffle Co-Chair
Faith acheives her U-CD
Congratulations on your first ever obedience title, and especially for doing it in such style! There is nothing quite like that very first title and the special feeling you get from working together as a team. Keep up the good work! Vicky Hall in Utah
Had enough
At this point I am taking a break from pooch research! Berner Pros: Unconditional love and companionship Cons: Hair in my ice trays and butter tray tens of thousands of dollars in vet bills 7.5 life expectancy my home is too small ? can I handle the fur balls? Some Berner owners seem to want to discourage others from them? Will a berner be happy in my life style? Finally, Tonight a breeder from Albany told me she would not sell me a pup because I live in a town home and I have three flights of stairs! I don't want an unhappy berner. Peace Out All! Kenny
Re: Yet another thought
See http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/gsmd.cfm for a really good description (& video) of "Swissies". And then look at http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/bermtn.cfm for the BMD. Biggest difference is amount of hair - GSMDs have shorter hair. We have Swissies in our club & at our events. They are nice dogs! Liz Steinweg & The Crew Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte "Baloo" Bobby Sox (husky-x), Figaro (20+ lb Forest Cat) Rio & Sahara (the "Rat Cats") and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00 lost to MH) Colorado Springs CO http://www.csbservices.com/personal/personal.htm - Original Message - From: "Kenneth L Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Yet another thought I noticed the Greater Swiss Mountain dogs at the show! How do they differ from the Berner?? Kenny
Re: Rainbow Bridge
2 excellent sites: http://www.rainbowsbridge.com/ http://www.petloss.com Liz Steinweg & The Crew Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte "Baloo" Bobby Sox (husky-x), Figaro (20+ lb Forest Cat) Rio & Sahara (the "Rat Cats") and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00 lost to MH) Colorado Springs CO http://www.csbservices.com/personal/personal.htm - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Rainbow Bridge Problems with the computer, and I've lost all my bookmarked websites. Would someone please send me a link to the story of the Rainbow Bridge? I have a dear friend who's sending her 6 YO rottie there today. Dang (edited) cancer. Thanks all, Julie J
RE: Kenny's choice
Me too! Me too! Had to go shopping for a "puppy mobile" with A/C that would accommodate our baby berner and her friends...! Bought a Dodge Durango (has A/C in the back). Marie with Pistache (it's ok mom, you can drive my car to go to work today...) -Original Message- From: Mary Shaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Kenneth L Babcock' Subject: RE: Kenny's choice Kenny, you may find that you won't be spending $45,000 in vet bills, but as many of us have learned, you can't own just one berner at a time. I discovered when I adopted my second berner, Bailey, through our Rescue, that my "free" rescue dog cost me nearly $30,000 - not in vet bills, but in the cost of a new vehicle which could accommodate two dogs (and their duds)!! Betcha didn't think of THAT!! Mary and the girls, Laurel and Bailey, lounging comfortably in the back of "their" motor vehicle.
RE: BERNER-L digest 4302
Hi Esta, A lot depends on the weather, right now we are experiencing minus 37 degrees Centigrade so it is safer to leave the dogs at home rather than in the car if it was parked while doing errands. In the summer I leave the dogs at home during heat waves because having had my air conditioning fail in a traffic jam one time I had a bad scare with my two dogs on board. It doesn't take long for a dog to overheat in a car and in extreme cold the vehicle can act like a deep freeze. Rose T.
Yet another thought
I noticed the Greater Swiss Mountain dogs at the show! How do they differ from the Berner?? Kenny
RE: Kenny's choice
Hi Anne, Our two major companies here in Canada tell you what exclusions you have and you have 30days to cancel for full refund. They both include HD and ED providing the dog has not been diagnosed before the policy is set up. Same thing with OCD in the shoulder. There is a company on the west coast that is Vet Pet Insurance and I wonder if it is the same as the US company. The Canadian one is underwritten by Allianz. Their rates vary according to the age of the dog and remain the same for the duration of the policy, there is no set up fee but as a result you don't know what your exclusions are until you put in a claim. They do not cover congenital conditions such as HD or ED and tend to squirm out of anything if they can out negotiate the policy holder. Rose T.
RE: Mastitis
Hi Bill, I had a bitch who developed mastitis very suddenly, she had a lot of milk and only two puppies so I had been adjusting her diet accordingly and expressing milk when I felt she was in danger of "caking up" this term means a hardening in the breast which makes it unattractive to newborns and likely to get infected. Usually by four weeks the puppies are vigorous and keep the breasts regularly empty. It is essential to gently feel through the breasts to make sure nothing is getting too uncomfortable for mom. With my bitch I suspected a scratch from a puppy claw and I usually make a point of keeping the front claws well trimmed. Sometimes these things happen for no apparent reason. With my Tali one breast flared into a dangerous condition very very quickly and along with Clavamox we had to warm compress the area, in a couple of days it erupted and the amount of pus was gross but the immediate releif to the bitch was apparent. We continued to keep it open and cleaned and let it heal from the inside out so to speak. Only one quarter of her breast was affected and it healed well and now you would never know which one it was. However we never had a chance to find out if it produced milk a second time because her second pregnancy resulted in one dead puppy and she was obviously dried up very quickly. While I was in BC last year I left my husband looking after Jamaica and her crew of six week old puppies, one night he thought she seemed unwell and took her in for a checkup. A young vet found a very high temperature but no obvious signs of problems and sent him home to "keep an eye on her". She checked the milk on a full breast and declared it was fine. Fortunately I came home the next night, found a bitch with mastitis (which my husband had suggested to the young vet), I spent all night warm compressing and easing out the affected milk. Again only part of the breast tissue was affected and the good glands expressed easier hence the young vet (read not a lot of time in) only got regular milk to test. I sat up all night and was very fortunate that I was able to help my bitch be more comfortable and eight oclock the next morning found me demanding antibiotics for my girl. Her puppies were a greedy lot and taken off her immediately given their age and Jamaica's ration was greatly reduced to dry her up. It is important to learn to adjust the feed intake according to the puppies demands and one soon discovers if one has a bitch to challenge a cow for production:-) Sometimes mastitis is just going to happen no matter how experienced you are but if a nursing mother develops a sudden fever or lethargy then mastitis or metritis is to be initially suspected. If she gets a bit shaky then a big emergency is happening and eclampsia has to be suspected and she needs to get to the vet's at warp speed. Rose T.
Enough is Enough
I am going out of my mind over this Berner! Today I got feedback from my vetinerian and he basically confirmed what I have already learned from all of the experienced berner owners here at Berner L! My wife is flexible but thinks I'm off my rocker! She feels the the "Felix Unger" in me will not deal well with dog hair all over. She might have a point but then again maybe not? One thing is for sure, I love the breed and despratly want my children to experience having a dog in the home. However, on the other hand I realize that when the novelty weras off It will be like getting them to do a chore around the house. See what I mean! This stuff goes through my head day and night! Lord give me the wisdom and strength to make the right decision! Kenny
Lyme disease and vaccine
Hi all - Usually I lurk but am in need of some Berner-L wisdom. Our Aussie pup has had some limping problems and we checked him for lyme back in June when he was about 8 months old - results negative. Decided not to vaccinate him for lyme as I felt it wasn't that effective and had heard of vaccine induced lyme disease. We always used the Frontline and don't live in a wooded area but evidently Lyme is endemic for both humans and dogs in our neighborhood. Recently, at 15 months, the vet did another lyme test (in the clinic antibody test) which came back positive. He was treated with the 3 weeks of doxy. and improved greatly, but we're about to go back in for a followup test since it's been 2 weeks since his last doxy. The vet wants to do another titer then vaccinate him for Lyme, but I'm still not convinced it does any good, may cause problems, and actually will make future detection of lyme problems more difficult. Am I mistaken ?? Why not just continue the Frontline and have him tested every 6 months or so to insure he hasn't been reinfected?? (testing immediately if limping or other typical symptoms) The vet indicated that now that he has antibodies we'll have to do multiple tests and compare the titers each time to see if he has contracted the disease again. I guess I'm wondering what those that have had some Lyme experience think (I remembered Pat had, but a search of the archives was VERY extensive and I never found recent posts). Of course I only want the BEST for my pups!! Thanks for your time. Barb in Maryland with Aussie Twister and BC Lizzie http://polaris.umuc.edu/~bflook/index.htm
RE: Big Brag
Bonnie, Congratulations! I'm always glad to see obedience teams doing well, you hug him for me!! As for the brag, probably the best thing you could do would be to send in to the histio fundraiser, see: http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/ for information. Or you can send it to me for the general health fund, or for any other fund you'd like! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Bernese and Goldens
Hello All, >I have asked this >occasionally of PPO's, and the conventional answer is that that goldens >have gotten too popular. They generally like everything about the >goldens except their popularity. >Are they changing from a Golden because they feel the breed has degenerated >because of it's popularity or are they changing because they want a less >common breed? >Rose T. Berners vs Goldens; I've owned Golden's my entire adult life. (please don't ask how long that is). My current Golden, Hunter, is 16 months old. I also own a 9-1/2 month old Berner, Casey. Casey I acquired from a NY breeder. I obtained Casey through an unusual set of circumstances that brought me, a very nice (and supportive) BMD breeder, and a Berner puppy rescue together. From my point of view, I think the experience ended well for all involved. I don't view my acquisition of Casey as a "switch" I cannot envision my life without a Golden. I wrestled with the decision to bring a BMD into our lives knowing the breed has a reputation of being short lived for reasons continuously highlighted by members of this list. I beleive that when dealing with purebreed dogs, there are no guarantees. If you asked me today if I would ever own another Berner, I'm reasonably sure I would not. I love Casey to death, However, I find that everything from housebreaking to basic obedience has taken an incredible amount of effort. She tends to be fearful of everything. From what I've been reading on the L this is not an uncommon problem. I am encouraged by the fact that my/her trainer feels she will overcome. I will never give up on her and I'm not concerned about her developing a fear aggression problem. Medically, I worry just as much over the health my Golden as I do for the health of Casey. Have Golden's suffered due to their popularity? I think so. Visit a pet shop, any pet shop that sells dogs and you will undoubtably find Golden puppies. In obedience classes, you can usually find 2-3 Goldens. Are people switching breeds because they feel the Golden has degenerated? I don't know. I think that there is a perception that the dogs have similar traits. I think they are both beautiful dogs. But I also think that's where it begins and ends. Each have their own distinct breed qualities. When it comes to beauty my father always told me "looks attract, they don't hold" but I'm quite sure he was referring to women. As much as I love Goldens, I must admit the beauty of a Berner is striking, I disregarded my fathers advice and this time I don't think I'm any worse off. Steve Squillante Hunter the Golden Casey the Berner
Crufts!!! Too Far!
Hi All, Re Crufts. Sadly I will not be able to go! Unless I can come up with a full time crittur sitter. I don't go too far these days unless I can walk there with Sim, Sunny and Barney and think is bit far for us though we love our hikes!! However heard from Coral and David Dennis, they will be there! All the way from Canada, US and all over the world! They are hoping to stop by here, Longlease, for another visit on the way to other places Those of you who have not met them before but have seen Coral's pieces on BMDC Mag, they are honeys! (Step in Kelvin here, for full story of when he and Royce met Coral and David over the Pond and flew home with giant BMD Bear!) Have page up on my Longlease Friends' Gallery from when they visited here last summer! So you know what they look like, if you are going to be there! Here's the page: http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/gang9i.htm Go give them Biggest Berner Hugs! Been bit quiet here at Longlease the last few days after Hoppy's demise but tonight as I pulled back in the drive after walk down the village with my dogs, heard my goats going, the ponies going, and Hop's eldest daughter, Elli, appeared in charge of the flock! All well here! Life goes on! All Love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang XXX http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Re: Berners vs. Goldens
Amanda wrote: Every Golden my family has had is much more hyper than Griffon ever was. This was one of my main reasons for not getting a Golden of my own. When Griff was a pup, he would sit and want to be loved, while my parents' Golden was bouncing off the walls. The Golden we had before was the same way. The difference in energy levels was drastic. I've owned a hyper Lab. I now own a very energetic four month old Berner. Yes, the lab was more hyper than Enzo the berner is, but Enzo is still a bundle of energy. I have a feeling that there is a lot of variation in Berner energy levels. The good news is that Enzo's uncle Hank is an energetic (but not overly so) loveable goofball. If Enzo takes after his uncle I will be thrilled. John Engstrom Plano, TX _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
info requested for first-time Berners
Hi All, My husband and I are eagerly awaiting our first Bernese pup from a wonderful breeder - we're so excited we can hardly sleep - and in preparation for this event we would appreciate feedback from all of you 'in the know'. After having been a member of Berner-l for only a week, I am very impressed at the level of knowledge, experience and unbridled adoration of these wonderful pals. We are fortunate to have such a community of like-minded people with whom to confer and share experiences, and I thank you all in advance for your input. First, what are appropriate foods for pups / adults? I know puppy food is not good because of the too-high protein levels, but what are good alternatives? Secondly, I have been looking into Pet Care insurance and I'd like to know your opinions of / experiences with this company. As we are in Canada, our insurance options are limited. Thanks again, Tonya, Ken and Florence (fantastic 10-month-old brown Tabby)
Rainbow Bridge
Problems with the computer, and I've lost all my bookmarked websites. Would someone please send me a link to the story of the Rainbow Bridge? I have a dear friend who's sending her 6 YO rottie there today. Dang (edited) cancer. Thanks all, Julie J
Maddy's big brag
Hi all- Maddy, Deerpark Sheer Madness, earned her MX in AKC agililty this weekend becoming the fifth berner to ever earn this title. As Maddy will be eight in July, I think this is quite an accomplishment. She is also tied to a fairly incompetent handler :-> which also makes this title a miracle. No raffle to spend brag money on, I guess I'll have to spend it at the Specialty. Don't forget to come watch the agility trial in Long Beach. It will be on Wednesday at 8:00 am. Peggy Ford-Smith Maddy CGC MX MXJ (Mom will you stop kissing me and crying) Niska, agility star in the making (I hear they serve food at the trials) Moon, 4 months old (Huh?) Petaluma CA
Healthier Care for Berners
My two cents for two recent postings: Esta, it's MUCH safer to leave your dog at home than in the car for such a long period of time. I've recently heard reliable stories of dogs being stolen from cars by people who hold dog-fights. I took my dog with me for errands -- stopping at the dry-cleaners, then Blockbuster, that sort of thing -- but he was alone 15-20 minutes tops. Not to mention, if he gets bored at home, he can chew his Kong; what's he gonna chew if he gets bored in your car :-) ? We opted to take him home, feed him what ever he wanted to eat and just love >and make him as comfortable as we could. I did the same with my Sealyham. Sealyhams are a healthy breed. There are no lists of Common Sealy Ailments, and that's one of the big reasons why I chose the breed. Yet Denbigh had adenocarcinoma at age 4. I never expected to have big vet bills much less the wrenching grief. One lesson I got from this is: ANY dog might get sick, ANY dog might live to be 15. If a breed I like is prone to certain conditions, I won't reject the breed, I'll find a breeder in whose line I have confidence. ~*~ Lindsay *-*-*-* Lindsay Gower, who lives in Pleasant Hill CA with Riley the Orange Tabby Siamese while Denbigh rests across the Bridge *-*-*-* _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
I too have a Berner who has had siezures....new diet
Hi Diana, How is Fidelios doing? I hope all is well. I've been out of the loop lately - my computer was down for a week - so I haven't been reading the 'L'. Have you learned any more from Fidelios recent tests? How is the new diet working? This past weekend I cooked up the weekly meal paks and baked treats for the dogs. At the time I was blanching all the veggies for the dogs, I was also making stuffed mushrooms for human dinner. Well I threw the mushroom steams in the dogs pot instead of the trash, and because I was running out of room on the stove top, I also tossed into the pot BooBoo the dogs chicken breasts. Apparently this mixture looked quite tasty because the next thing I knew my husband is helping himself to a bowl full! I calmly stated to him, "honey, that's the dogs dinner, yours is in the oven". And as all dogs sat drooling with anticipation - he ate it any ways. Later though, when I was baking the liver biscuits, he got so sick to his stomach from the smell of liver that he actually took the dogs for a walk - in freezing temperatures - just to get out of the house! At least I know he won't be eating the dogs biscuits! -Denise with Bueford, BooBoo the Dog The BlackCat, The GrayCat and Jimmy
some pictures
Added some pictures to the site, http://www.hotdogfx.com/gal/Gallery1.htm Hope you like 'em. Thanks, Hugh
FW: Looking for Breeder in Illinois
-Original Message- From: Terri Taylor-Mikes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:58 AM To: Berner List (E-mail) Subject: Looking for Breeder in Illinois I am looking for a breeder in Illinois. My husband is turning 40 this May and he really wants another Berner (we both do) and I would like to get him a male Berner puppy for this 40th. Anyone out there a breeder in Illinois or know of one? Thanks Terri P.S. Someone on this list forwarded my last e-mail "Looking for Trainer in Aurora, IL" to a trainer in Joliet named Joyce. Well I wanted to thanks this individual for doing that - Joyce has called me and she gave me some great ideas on how to re-train Dharma and I am doing them - Dharma is resisting, but I will win. Also, I was wondering if that person could e-mail me and give me Joyce's address - if what she told me to do works (and I am pretty sure it will), I really want to send her something to show my gratitude. Thank You.
Where did you get your dog?
We also got our Berner from Edith Williams at Echo Cascade, and Bjorn is the most wonderful addition to our family that we could ever ask for! Not only did Edith give us our first Berner, but also helped us along with very important tips on Berners and puppies in general. We owe a lot to Edith! Thanks, Annika, Vincent, and Bjorn (Our big Bear!)The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
speciality donations
When in Laguna Beach I had the pleasure of meeting artist Debby Carman. I suggested that she donate one of her ceramic pieces for the speciality and she generously agreeded. Unfortunately the Emails I forwarded to her from the booklet were returned. So I gave her some more Emails today. Debbys work is whimsical--some breed oriented others just contemporary. Debby's website is: www.fauxpawproductions.com Happy Trails, Jeannie in Michigan Greta&Gulliver __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Berners vs. Goldens
Forgot to add a signature on my post- sorry! Amanda Harvey Belmar, NJ "So lets hear from the golden to berner people out there - is that why you are switching? In your experience with both breeds, are their temperaments more alike or different? Add anything else relevant you can think of." __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Berners vs. Goldens
Thought I'd add my insight to this topic: "So lets hear from the golden to berner people out there - is that why you are switching? In your experience with both breeds, are their temperaments more alike or different? Add anything else relevant you can think of." As someone who grew up with Goldens my whole life, I never even considered another breed. That is, until I met my first Berner. So when I graduated college and moved out on my own, I got my 1st Berner, Griffon. >From my experience, the similarities between Berners & Goldens are: good family dogs, stubborn, loyal, & sweet. And contrary to popular belief- I feel Goldens shed MORE than Berners. Every Golden my family has had is much more hyper than Griffon ever was. This was one of my main reasons for not getting a Golden of my own. When Griff was a pup, he would sit and want to be loved, while my parents' Golden was bouncing off the walls. The Golden we had before was the same way. The difference in energy levels was drastic. We lost Griffon to MH in November- he was a month shy of his 5th b-day. And deciding if we would stick with the breed a tough decision- no way could we have our hearts broken again. Then, about a couple weeks after Griffy had passed, I saw my neighbor with his Berner, Jesse, who proceeded to sit on my feet so I could pet him. It was definitely bitter-sweet as Jesse & Griffon had very similar characteristics. But my decision was made- I wouldn't give up on the breed- just that particular breeder. About a week ago we welcomed our newest Berner, Bruin, into the family- and he is a sweetheart! And even comparing Bruin to my parent's 2 year-old Golden- the hyper activity isn't there. We just had a visit from my parents w/ Benny- and even though I love Benny to death, he is quite a handful =). My parents are going to get Benny a buddy- and it will be a Berner, not another Golden. So yet another family is crossing over to the Berner side. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Berners and Goldens
We lost our heart dog K.C., an angel Golden at 10 years of age to cancer and got another Golden, Kelly as soon as we researched breeders. Kelly is a very bright, beautiful, loving girl and had a tough act to follow, but she is a wonderful addition to our lives. K.C. was a dark red Golden and Kelly is our blonde. The Golden temperament is just that...Golden. When we decided on a companion for Kelly, we had already met and fallen in love with my friend's Bernese Mountain Dogs. We ended up traveling twice to Canada to meet our pup and then to pick our up our love, Bentley, when he was old enough to travel with us to Long Island. Why did we change breeds? It was not at all because Goldens are too popular. We still love Goldens, but we found that Berners are also wonderful companions and have very similar temperaments for the most part as Goldens. Our two get along beautifully. Kelly (5.8) had taught Bentley(3) how to live a Golden life and they often sit or lie down with one's paw crossing the other's paw. Too cute! Would I get another Golden? Of course! Would I get another Berner? Of course! I love both breeds. Why do lovers of Goldens love Berners too? Perhaps it is the similarities of breeds. Both are big and beautiful. Both shed a lot. Both are "heart" dogs and Velcro dogs. Both want people with them to be happy. Both have wonderful temperaments. Both love to snuggle and cuddle. Yes, sadly both are prone to cancer, but I wouldn't give up living with either one. They are both the center of our lives and we adore them both. Joyce Mills (Kelly & Bentley's mom) Merrick, NY & Pawlet, VT
Do they shed?
Yes- but we're lucky. The white hair flies into the jam, while the black and tan show up in the butter! That way we KNOW what we're having for breakfast! : ) Simone de Lima Brasilia Brazil Mali (rescue lab mix) Gimli (mini schnauzer) Doppo (BMD) Godot (cat) Mel (visiting dachshund)
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Re: MH Questions
In a message dated 3/2/2003 1:22:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My Maggie had all the > classic signs of MH, and both my vet and I were sure that's what it was. > I had to insist on a necropsy - he thought it was unnecessary - and we > were both shocked to learn that she did have liver cancer, but it was > not MH. It was hepatocellular carcinoma, a type of cancer that is common > in older dogs and cats. Pat, Did you use your vet's standard path lab for the cytology or did you have the tissues sent to UCD or other lab with specialized capability of expertise in MH? -Sherri
Re: Rowyn's hips
In a message dated 3/2/2003 4:31:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Any other suggestions what I can do to help bring him out of his shell??? Definitely agility. I've seen it accomplish an incredible turnaround in a dog's outlook and way of dealing with the world. -Sherri
