where are all the Berners????

2003-03-27 Thread Rhona Vantine
In answer to your question  where have all the
Berners in Switzerland gone  I think they're
all here in The Netherlands  I saw 3 during the 15
minute school run this morning!!!  The fifth most
popular dog over here!!!  :)
Rhona and Louis
in The Netherlands

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Re: Breeding

2003-03-27 Thread BernerFolk
Sorry, this last paragragh was cut-off:

re: In breeding, line breeding, and out crossing...

All in all, each has their place and the breed probably benefits most from 
having the use of all three...in appropriate measure.  I wouldn't want to 
see all litters in-bred or tightly line-bred...but I'm not sure I'd like to 
see 
all Bernese litters out-crosses either, especially when working with the 
very limited information we have available today.

Clear as mud? g
  
~Sherri Venditti
  



Re: BNN at the National?

2003-03-27 Thread BernerFolk
Hi Mike,

This subscription service sounds terrific, what a great addition to the 
specialty!  

Just to clarify...Berner Bay Watch IS an offering of the specialty committee, 
not a 'for profit' company, right?  

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Re: Backtalk

2003-03-27 Thread Radha Iyengar
I am not that experienced so I am sure other people
will have more suggestions but Smokey is a backtalker.
 I mean he in general is a talker and when we first
started training he was quite upset at the idea he had
to listen to me.  Basically what the trainer told me
is the following:
1.  He must always obey backtalk or not.  So if you
give him a command and he wants to talk back, he needs
to do the command too!

2. If he doesn't get into his space.  Move towards the
dog, and enforce your command and your leadership role

3. There is no reward for backtalk but lots of reward
for quiet obedience.  So, if your pup obeys with a lot
of noise, a gentle good dog is in order.  But if you
dog obeys quietly, praise as if he just invented the
theory of relativity.  And some smelly treats always
help.  

I have found that Smokey largely grew out of this as I
kept up on obedience.  The basic trick is just to get
him to realize you are in charge and his best bet is
to listen to what you have to say quietly.  But,
Smokey still has some talk, especially when it
involves walks or sitting while I am eating dinner. 
Still vast improvements.

I hope that this helps.

Radha

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RE: Backtalk

2003-03-27 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Jenn,
Enjoy the conversations with your puppy, it is not always backtalk but his
observations on the world:-) This is a common trait in Berners:-)

Rose



Fun Survey

2003-03-27 Thread Lucy Yogi
Have fun!

1 --- Do you live in
c) country
d) on Planet Berner
Hmmm... Family and boyfriend would say D, but we live in a house on the 
outskirts of a small village (not quite country enough, but getting there).

2 --- Where does your dog spend the night?
Cessi - beside the bed on the floor (comes up for cuddles first, then gets 
off and spends the night there)
Tucker - usually on the floor in the bathroom, sometimes at the front door

3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy?
Cessi - bones and stuffed babies
Tucker - bones and the cats - the ultimate squeaky toys!
4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank)
(do I have to pick just one???)
Cessi - her intuitiveness blows me away; also the power behind her paws, 
tail and nose nudges, the way she throws herself down for belly rubs, and 
the way she crosses her pretty white paws like the little lady she is
Tucker - vocal ability(!); also this big rough dog gives the most 
incredibly gentle nose nibbles and ear nibbles; silky super soft ears, and 
the ability to sleep wrapped at a 90 degree angle around a corner

5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s)
Didn't have to - had the SUV (now on #3).  Chose my house based on how it 
would suit living with berners (before I even had one)- does that count?

6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog
has won)
a) conformation - Cessi Ch, Tucker - we'll see
b) obedience trials - coming soon for Cessi
c) drafting trials - working on it
g) training classes - oh yes
h) digging to China - no, thank goodness
7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is.

Cessi is such a good girl...  the thing that comes to mind most readily was 
when she ate a half pound of butter one afternoon while I was away, and 
then, well, it came out the other end, rather explosively.  I've never seen 
poop halfway up the walls before or since.  grin

Tucker, hmmm, let's see - there was my favourite black sandals that he ate 
the cushioning out of, the time he ate 1/2 a wild bunny (this counts as one 
of Cessi's naughty things too as she killed the thing) and then 
regurgitated it on the carpet in the living room...

None of these are really *naughty* things - just dogs being dogs.  Oh, and 
there was the time Tucker walked up to Adam as he was getting dressed one 
morning and grabbed his, um, privates, between his teeth.  Luckily he 
didn't bite down!  Cessi also used to square her dad regularly with her 
front paw by sitting up like a bear and throwing one into his groin.

Jen
Cessi and Tucker


Re: Berners their special cars

2003-03-27 Thread Michaela Simmons
Molly wrote:

 Santa, too, has a special car that he prefers to ride in.
Unfortunately,
 it is the aforementioned dark green Range Rover belonging to Michaela
 Simmons!  Santa absolutely adores it and becomes fairly uncontrollable in
 his efforts to throw himself aboard.

This is very true. And  I am flattered. But what bugs me is that not only
does he want to ride in it, he hops into the drivers seat and sits there
like a gargantuan
grinning Cheshire Cat apparently insisting on taking over the wheel. Only
lenghty negotiations involving copious amounts of treats  and convoluted
discussions about ownership rights will make him shift. My diplomatic skills
displayed at those occasions would make Tony Blair weep with envy.

Let me tell you all a story of  Santa's true devotion to the cool car of
his dreams. When Rupert was still a small puppy, Molly, Santa and I met up
for a walk. We took our 3 boys for a nice little stroll and then Molly took
young Rupert home in her car and I continued to walk on with the two Big
boys, Harvey  Santa. We waked on merrily as Molly drove out of the
carpark. Santa, like a tornado from hell, turned around and hurtled back to
said carpark. Now visualise this: carpark, road right beside it ( not a very
busy road, but a road), cars coming from both directions and my friend's dog
she entrusted me with is racing straight into the road. Obviously, I thought
he was trying to follow his Mum. Calling him fell on stonily deaf ears.

Haha!  It transpired that the dear boy didn't give two hoots that his mom
had just disappeared. He slammed on his brakes just before the road ( thank
you God. Thankyouthankyouthankyou!) sverved sharply into the carpark and sat
beside my car. His paw was placed longingly onto the back bumper. That's all
he wanted - a ride in the cool car. Whether his human had gone to Timbakto
or wherever was of no immediate concern to him. A ride in the cool car was.

And that from a breed whose characteristics are cited as  devoted and
loyal. Yeah, to the brand of car, maybe

Michaela, Harvey  Ruert
Devon/UK





RE: Berners their special cars

2003-03-27 Thread Molly Palmer
So now the world knows that Santa is not as devoted to his adoring mother as
she would have everyone believe.  (Sniff!)

I am currently trying to work out just how to successfully negotiate with my
father for the provision of one dark green Range Rover, fully equipped with
a hunky (and very strong) chauffeur to enable me to travel in it with Santa.
I'm not holding out much hope here but I promised Santa I would try.  (The
chauffeur would be vital, as I'm not convinced of Santa's ability to reach
the pedals, even if he thinks he can drive.)

Molly  Santa


-Original Message-
From: Michaela Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 March 2003 14:08
To: Molly Palmer
Cc: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: Re: Berners  their special cars


Molly wrote:

 Santa, too, has a special car that he prefers to ride in.
Unfortunately,
 it is the aforementioned dark green Range Rover belonging to Michaela
 Simmons!  Santa absolutely adores it and becomes fairly uncontrollable in
 his efforts to throw himself aboard.

This is very true. And  I am flattered. But what bugs me is that not only
does he want to ride in it, he hops into the drivers seat and sits there
like a gargantuan
grinning Cheshire Cat apparently insisting on taking over the wheel. Only
lenghty negotiations involving copious amounts of treats  and convoluted
discussions about ownership rights will make him shift. My diplomatic skills
displayed at those occasions would make Tony Blair weep with envy.

Let me tell you all a story of  Santa's true devotion to the cool car of
his dreams. When Rupert was still a small puppy, Molly, Santa and I met up
for a walk. We took our 3 boys for a nice little stroll and then Molly took
young Rupert home in her car and I continued to walk on with the two Big
boys, Harvey  Santa. We waked on merrily as Molly drove out of the
carpark. Santa, like a tornado from hell, turned around and hurtled back to
said carpark. Now visualise this: carpark, road right beside it ( not a very
busy road, but a road), cars coming from both directions and my friend's dog
she entrusted me with is racing straight into the road. Obviously, I thought
he was trying to follow his Mum. Calling him fell on stonily deaf ears.

Haha!  It transpired that the dear boy didn't give two hoots that his mom
had just disappeared. He slammed on his brakes just before the road ( thank
you God. Thankyouthankyouthankyou!) sverved sharply into the carpark and sat
beside my car. His paw was placed longingly onto the back bumper. That's all
he wanted - a ride in the cool car. Whether his human had gone to Timbakto
or wherever was of no immediate concern to him. A ride in the cool car was.

And that from a breed whose characteristics are cited as  devoted and
loyal. Yeah, to the brand of car, maybe

Michaela, Harvey  Ruert
Devon/UK





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Re: Stevie's Progress! (Happy News!!)

2003-03-27 Thread Sara Steele
I am so delighted to hear this!!!
sara steele
- Original Message -
From: Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Berner List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Stevie's Progress! (Happy News!!)


 Dear List,
 I just had to write and let you all know that I have been steadily washing
 up tons and tons of very muddy paw prints off of my kitchen floor and back
 porch floor. Stevie has been going outside (on leash of course, and
 certainly not without me!!) and doing alot of walking.  He has gained so
 much confidence in the last week it is uncanny.  A Guardian Angel from
 across the pond mercifully sent us some boots with fabulous traction, and
 almost immediately he started to progress.  There is still a significant
 amount of ice and snow around and I really believe that this was a big
part
 of Stevie's problem. He did not feel safe and was unsure of his footing.
 These boots, which are the same kind that Search and Rescue dogs use
whilst
 going through debris and rubble, were a God send and we are so grateful to
 my dear friend Cecilia Staal. (Love you Cecilia, but you knew that
 already!!) We started out slowly at first and it did take a few tries to
get
 Stevie used to the boots, but after much praise and lots of treats, he
 settled into them like they had been always on his feet.  The last couple
of
 days has been warmer and the snow and ice are finally beginning to melt.
We
 have been out so much for little walks, Stevie tires very easily and pants
a
 tremendous amount but we will build that up soon I am sure. Now this is
for
 my dear friend down south, Stevie actually trotted and ran a few steps
today
 after a large bird that was in his back yard!! I was so excited that I
 tripped and fell into a very wet and muddy spot, I was laughing and crying
 at the same time. Stevie just looked at me curiously, because I am sure
 after all this drama and emotion lately, he has come to the conclusion
that
 his Mum is just a few sandwiches short of a picnic!!  I am so happy and
 grateful and truly feel now that Stevie will be ok. We saw his neurologist
 last Wednesday and we don't have to go back unless there are problems. He
is
 very pleased with his remarkable progress and he does not feel that there
is
 any permanent neurological or mental deficits.  He has gained almost all
the
 weight that he lost except for approx. 4 pounds.  The vets are equally as
 amazed as I am and said that Stevie definitely had an angel with him, back
 that cold, grey day in January. I am so proud of Stevie and my heart is
just
 so full, I could just burst. Even though my own personal life is still
 somewhat of a mess, these milestones that we make with my beloved boy seem
 to make everything alright and it definitely gives me purpose.
 I will never complain about the black tumbleweeds of berner hair that I
find
 under and in furniture, I gladly and lovingly wash up the mud and crud and
 corruption that this time of year brings when you have a gentle giant who
is
 now slowly becoming more and more active outside  I scrub and clean
that
 floor actually with a big grin on my face, can you imagine!!
 Thank you all so much for the continued love and support, it is so
important
 to us and we appreciate it deeply.
 Love from
 Karen and Stevie
 NB, Canada




Re: Oh where, oh where.......

2003-03-27 Thread Cindy Reid
Elisabeththose beautiful berners were probably just out of view behind
and around all those hills and mountains :)

I suggest you go back and visit the lovely little mountain villages of
Murren and Gimmelwald.  Five years ago I was there and in the first hour in
the country I saw  Berners.  Coming into Bern I saw a berner out in a field
and then as I pulled up to a stoplight in Bern a car pulled up along side in
the other lane and when I glanced over there was a Berner in the car looking
at me.  Then somewhere between Interlaken and the Lauterbrunnen Valley I
watched as a doorman for a restaurant held open the door for a couple and
their Berner to enter the restaurant.  And we no sooner stepped off the
little funicular that took us to the town of Murren high up an alp (no cars
there) and there was a gentleman out for an evening stroll with his Berner.
All of this my first day in Switzerland.  Sorry, not trying to make you feel
bad.  Thanks for bringing back memories of that magical place.

Cindy Reid

 have all the Berners gone, oh where, oh where can they be?

 That's the question I have after having visited my home country of
 Switzerland once again and did not see a single Berner any where.  We were
 only out in the country sites, no cities.  We hiked all over, but never
saw
 a Berner at any of the farmer houses we passed or out on the pastures.
The
 same as my past 2 visits,  NO BERNERS.

 Saw all the in dogs like Goldens, Retrievers, Akitas, etc., anything but
a
 Berner.  Can anyone on the L in Switzerland  explain this.

 Elisabeth,  Digby (all my ancestors are Swiss) and Donzi (I doubt I have a
 drop of Swiss in me)





RE: Cure for Backtalk

2003-03-27 Thread Nancy Melone
Jenn:
The cure for back taught is not rewarding it.

It is often helpful to have a friend watch what YOU do when he barks.  You
may be unknowingly be encouraging him to bark back (e.g., by looking at him,
touching him, giving him a command to stop in a tentative way, or using some
form of body language that he finds encouraging or pleasant).  An
independent observer can often pick that up quicker than you or your family
can.  If you don't have a friend, hire a dog behaviorist to come out and
observe.

I have a personal story where we used this observational technique.  My
husband was clearly encouraging certain bad behaviors from one of our dogs
(i.e., the dog was jumping up on him when he came home from work).  He
insisted that he was not doing anything to encourage this behavior --
fortunately, I was able to capture him on video tape and he realized that
indeed he was encouraging the behavior (touching/petting the dog as he
tentatively said no jump).  He started carrying a treat in his pocket and
upon entry, he gave a firm command to sit, when the dog sat, she got the
treat.  The jumping was gradually extinguished over time. This doesn't
happen overnight, but it does happen.  Make sure that all the family members
expect the same out of the dog and behave consistently toward the dog when
he is barking.  By the way, does the dog bark back at everyone in the family
or only you? Knowing this could also give you a clue on how to deal with it.

If this does not work, the citronella collars are also useful.

Glad you are enjoying your Berner.

Nancy Melone
Mars, PA



Please someone save me and tell me what is the cure for talking back. Im
used to it from the humans, just wanted my puppy to be different. I have no
clue what to do on this one.


HELP!
Jenn and Charlie
Gill, MA

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RE Canine Good Citizen

2003-03-27 Thread catherine green
There is also a nice book authored by Jack  Wendy Volhard entitled -
The Canine Good Citizen: Every Dog Can Be One. It outlines in detail the
various requirements for the test as well as history  and positive
training tips.

Catherine Young
Madison WI
Shadow, Mickey  Jenny



vacuum

2003-03-27 Thread William Withey
What kind of vacuum do you all use?  I am in need of a good one.
Thanks,
Kristin
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Sir turns six!

2003-03-27 Thread sweber
Everyone,
 
This is my yearly HAPPY BIRTHDAY to my boy and to the littermates that
we know the whereabouts of. For those of you new to this story, Sirius
(Sir) was purchased from an ad newspaper 6 years ago.  Every year , I
put out another call to anyone who may have purchased a puppy from this
litter. By word of mouth and shear cussidness, I have managed to find
out the whereabouts of four of the nine.
They were born on March 27th in Olympia. Washington to Pollux and
Celeste, owned by Ed and Carman Taylor(a military family).  After a
second litter was produced (one of which died at age two of bone cancer)
the family moved, leaving no address for any of the owners.
   So if you have a dog purchased around this time, in this place,
PLEASE contact me!
   And to Sir's littermates Lacey, Ben(re-homed once to his forever
home), Angel(re-homed twice to her forever home) and Lila, Happy
Birthday to YOUUU! from Sir.
   We were at the Kitsap Peninsula Dog Show(in Bremerton, Washington)
this weekend at the Education booth for the Bernese Mtn. Dog Club of
Greater Seattle.  Sir as usual was a big hit and such a gentleman!
 
Best wishes and MANY MORE HAPPY BIRTHDAYS to Sir's family,
Happy Birthday to my baby boy,
Lynne and the guys
Keyport, Washington
 



RE: BNN at the National?

2003-03-27 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Sherri,

Excellent question, and absolutely! The BernerBayWatch is indeed an
offering of the Specialty Committee!! We'd like to make a profit of
course, and all the profits under the control of the Pacific Coast
Consortium will be going to two of the Berner Funds (health and
lobbying, if I recall correctly.)

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA

Sherri Venditti wrote:

Just to clarify...Berner Bay Watch IS an offering of the specialty
committee, not a 'for profit' company, right?  




RE: BERNER-L digest 4341

2003-03-27 Thread Ellen Lauber
1 --- Do you live in
a) city/suburb  - I live in a small city/town, but I have a nice yard
for Harper to run around!

2 --- Where does your dog spend the night?
 During the winter, on top of my feet in bed with me!  During the
summer on the bare floor closest to the A/C or on my bed, flat on her back
under the ceiling fan!

3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy?
 She likes cardboard - any cardboard box she can run around with and
tear apart.  When that's not available, she likes the toys that squeek or
bark at her.
4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank)
 Her happy tail!  I love it when it goes in circles.
5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s)
Yes - A Saturn VUE, so she can have plenty of room on our trips to the
Outer Banks, NC!  (Spoiled?)
Now, I have to get her a new collar to match her new car.

6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog
has won)

e) therapy work - We have visited a nursing home since she was a year
old and we will be starting at a new assisted living facility soon.  Harper
has earned her Canine Good Citizenship also.

g) training classes - We've gone thru some, and could probably stand to
go thru a couple more!


7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. While our back was
turned, she grabbed a Chicken Cheesesteak sandwhich off of my friend's plate
and had it gone by the time we turned back to her!  There was cheesesteak
crumbs all over.






Goodbye Sweet Harleigh

2003-03-27 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Forwarded for Sindi, with great sadness:


CH Degrasso's Harleigh V Legacy
2-18-92 to 3-27-03

Harleigh was my best friend and the beginning of L-Sin kennels. She was
a BMDCA Top Producer with 9 AKC Conformation Champions to her credit.
Her legacy lives on in her children and in her grandchildren.

CH L-Sin's Best Bet at Skylyn, 1997 Best in Futurity, 1997 SWBMDC BOS in
sweeps, BMDCA Top Producer
CH L-Sin's Bel Esprit V Skylyn
CH L-Sin's Black Gold V Skylyn CD NDD
CH L-Sin's Bullet V Skylyn
CH L-Sin-Skylyn's Harleigh's Re-Run
A/C Int CH L-Sin-Skylyn's Harleigh's Rio #9 Breed dog 2001
L-Sin-Skylyn's Harleigh's Rumor 1999 BMDCA Best in Futurity, BISweeps
Watchtung Regional 1999, WB Ohio Regional 2000.
CH L-Sin-Skylyn's Ice Angel
CH L-Sin-Skylyn's Snow Angel
CH L-Sin-Skylyn's Im No Angel 

and her grandkids:
A/C CH Skylyn-L-Sin's Chip Shot NDD, 2000 BMDCA Best in Sweeps, 2001
BMDCA Best in Futurity-RWD, 2001 Best in Sweeps SWBMDC Regional
CH Skylyn-L-Sin's In The Rough
CH L-Sin's Dream's and Desire's, 2002 Eukanuba Classic Invitational
BOB/Best BBE, Feb 2002 no 1 dog-all breed, no 4 breed. SWBMDC AOM,
multiple breed and multiple group placer.
CH Skylyn's Custom Kisses, BOS PVBMDC Regional, multiple breed and group
placer.
CH Skylyn's Custom Blend 2002 WB PVBMDC Regional
CH Skylyn's Custom Classic
Skylyn's Kickapoo WB/BOW PVBMDC Regional
L-Sin's Dark Secret (needs a major to finish)

Sindi Leo
L-Sin BMDs
Sumerduck, VA





Fun Survey

2003-03-27 Thread Beth Willan
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The Unicorn Factor.....

2003-03-27 Thread Sarah Kelly
Hey, Mary Kay

My Husband I had a similar experiance at one of the
local lakes.  You would have thought we had brought a
Unicorn out for a walk.  We got about 25 yards from
the car and 25 yards back an hour later.  We never got
our walk in.  Zoe was on her best behavior and loved
the attention.  It is magical.




Hello My name is Mary Kay and I have been lurking for
some time now, but I felt I had to share my
experience!   I have a five month old berner girl that
is everything I had ever hoped for.  So in keeping
with the plans I made for this puppy (confirmation,
obedience, carting and therapy work) we were on our
way to puppy class.  On the way I realized that the
slip lead I had been working her on did not meet the
requirments for class.  No problem, petsmart is on the
way!  I had planned a quick in and out and on to
class.  Boy was I wrong!  I of course had to take
Pyper in to look around and properly fit the collar. 
From the time we walked into the store we were mobbed!
 I have had her at puppy matches, the training club
and petsmart before, but this was something else all
together!  We could not take more than 3 steps at a
time!  Pyper of course took all the attention as her
due and hammed it up for any one who even cast a
glance in her direction.  One little girl just
followed her around.  As her parents were leaving,
they mentioned that the she was generally afraid of
dogs and had never seen her so taken, especially by a
big dog (about 50lbs).  Needless to say it was half an
hour before we were back on the road!   So much for a
quick trip!  It made me feel so good to see this silly
puppy make everyone smile with a single look. Even at
class other owners were paying more attention to my
dog than their own!  I have not always been the most
outgoing person in the world, but now theres no other
option! It took me about 5 years from the time I
decided on the breed until I brought this bundle of
joy home, so I, of course, think she is very special,
but what is it about this breed that brings people out
of their own worlds and shells?  Whatever it is, its
addictive!Mary Kay in Dayton, OH withLariat the
Dignified Wheaten Terrier (Your not that fast Lily)
4.5yrLily the Super Basenji (Mom there's a squirrel in
that tree) 14 moPyper the BabyBerner(Neverfear Lily I
will chew the tree down)5mo

=
SARAH KELLY [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Search and Rescue Boots

2003-03-27 Thread Barbara French
Karen or Someone,

I MUST KNOW, where can you get those search and rescue dog boots? After a 
long, snowy, frozen Winter in Central New York, it has all melted and by 
back yard is a complete mud pit. My house is following suit. I must be one 
of the few people in Central New York who is sorry to see Spring come.  
Twelve months of frozen ground would suit me fine.
Barbara
Syracuse, NY
Winston, Gretel, Zoe





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Berner survey

2003-03-27 Thread Jill
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Fw: Berner survey

2003-03-27 Thread Jill
Woops - just sent in html vs pt by mistake - so sorry, Pat.
Trying again.

Here are my responses to the survey:

1 --- Do you live in
I live in the burbs (but close to the city, with country woods
behind us)
(btw - I tried to put the whole word for this response here instead
of
just saying the burbs - and my email was rejected because
that word is a command word - did anyone else have this problem?)

2 --- Where does your dog spend the night?
He used to always sleep on the cold tile in the bathroom, with his
head resting part way into the hall, so he could see all of our
bedroom
doors.  Lately, he varies between that spot, my son's bedroom right
beside his bed (this has only been since we rearranged my son's
furniture so there's a good spot beside the bed with a view of the
hallway), and our bedroom on the wood floor (again with a view of
the hallway).

3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy?
He has SOOO many toys and loves them all, mostly those with
squeakers, but I'd have to say his favorite is one he's worn through
three versions of - a large stuffed jack with squeakers in each
spike or leg of it.  He likes to lick and chew it.  We get a new
one whenever he rips through getting close to getting the
squeaker out.

4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank)
How happy he makes me... and
His amazing consistency at meeting me at the door with a toy
in his mouth - and his great joy at just seeing me, which is
equal to mine at seeing him.  It's so nice to come to him.

His submission to my sister's 11 year old female Jack
Russell Terrier - and apparent belief that she's bigger than him.

His belief that EVERYONE he meets loves him - although it is mostly
true.

5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s)
No - had an SUV AND a four-door pickup with full size backseat.

6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog
has won)
Kids soccer games (not by invitation, but by accident)
His greatest accomplishment was PASSING his beginning obedience class
without being the worst behaved dog in the class. (with a reluctant ok
by his
 teacher that he could move up to the next class level).

7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is.
Eating a (expensive, treasured) American Girl doll - Felicity, for those
who know of these dolls.  Cost me $80 at a doll hospital due to my
daughter's insistence that buying a new one wasn't the same.

Jill Kramer and Benny
Baltimore, MD



Help (ASAP)

2003-03-27 Thread Radha Iyengar
Smokey at a lightbulb.  It was on the counter and he
just ate it when I went downstairs to do laundry.  I
called the vet's office but they are gone for the
night.  He seems fine right now but should I take him
to the emergency room?  Should I give him something to
eat?  Should I make him throw up--I worry about the
glass.

Please help.  

Radha

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We're Okay

2003-03-27 Thread Radha Iyengar
THANK YOU!!! This is just wonderful.  All of the
advise about cotton balls was right on the ball. 
After writing the list, the answering service at my
vet's had a vet call me and I brought Smokey in. 
After an X-ray and some examination it turns out that
smokey swallowed the bulb whole!!! That's right--it is
one of the those small vanity mirror bulbs and he just
swallowed it in tact (you can actually see it on the
X-Ray-- I have saved it and when I make a webpage I am
going to scan it in!).  Anyway, long story short, the
vet said to give him soft foods and cotton balls
soaked in cream--just in case there are a few
splinters.  

For future reference to anyone else, the vet also said
that it is very, very important to go in right away if
a dog swallows glass.  The reason is the shards can
cause internal bleeding and serious damage to the
stomach and esophogus.  Cotton balls soaked in cream
or milk as well as soft, solid foods (like soaked
bread) can stave off the impact and should be given
immediately (which I did based on the list advise). 
But if the bulb is only half crunched out surgery may
be necesarry as the pieces will be too large to pass
without injury.  If the bulb is mostly intact or
thoroughly crunched up it can be passed but the dog
must be watched.  This was quite the heart attack.  I
never imagined a dog would eat a lightbulb!! Why? 
Well thank goodness it was whole so that surgery
wasn't necessary.  Smokey is uncomfortable (but more
from eating the cotton it seems than from the bulb). 
And it seems like everything will be okay but I am to
watch his stools for the next few days and then take
him back.  If it doesn't pass, then we need surgery to
remove it but it looks to be a reasonable size and
shape that it will pass (what luck he chose that
lightbulb to eat and not a standard 60W bell-shaped
bulb).

From the bottom of my heart thank you to everyone who
responded to me.  It really made a big difference both
to know what to do, to hear that this has happened
before, and to just keep me from panicking while I
waited for the vet to call back!!

Love to all,
Radha and a very guilty Smokey
Princeton, NJ

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survey

2003-03-27 Thread Jeanne Schoech
Have enjoyed reading the survey results.  It seems to me that more that a
goodly bunch of us Berner folk are ending  beginning each day with a Berner
hopping into bed with us for some cuddles.  This is one of the bestest parts
of our day with the Berners... and knowing so many of us -each in our own
space  time- are sharing such a sweet moment is warming to the heart.  Just
a thought before call it a day... Jeanne



Re: BERNER-L digest 4342

2003-03-27 Thread EKDAL3
Barbara French

WE got our pup from Fulton, just outside of Syracuse. Where did you get your pup from?

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