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hI pLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE BERNER LIST? THANKS! - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4513 BERNER-L Digest 4513 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Food for keeping weight in check... by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) re: Opinion Needed by Timothy Forman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) A Dog Named Mace by LeAnn Zogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) BMDC of Watchung Draft Test Regional Specialty CGC/TDI Testing by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Neutering question by Karen Aufdemorte [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) RE: fat berners by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) administrative question by Dawn R. Mottier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: fat berners/green beans by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) RE: Berners for Pat by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) raw food diet? any experiences? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Boarding in Moab UT, Cortez CO and Sante Fe NM by Deborahr34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: raw food diet? any experiences? and relation to fat dogs by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: administrative question by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) RE: fat berners--show ring by Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) RE: fat berners by Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Doggy Stew by mtndog [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Stevie and Drafting? by Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re: fat berners by Eileen Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) Re: raw food diet? any experiences? and relation to fat dogs by Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Re: fat berners by jenn's visi.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Chemo - Experience? by Todd/Jennifer Zaayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Berner Days at Care-a-Lot Pets Klarsson's Anniversary by chellotchr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: fat berners by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Frozen Bones by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Bones by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: fat berners by Cheryl Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) The Burmese Mountain Dog by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: fat berners by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) deaf dog by Ruth Claus-Wilke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) Re: Fat Berners, by Jean Cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Fw:berner-l,darling by vestalong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) Re: Only in America by Jean Cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Fwd: Fw:berner-l,darling by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 34) Re: Fat Berners- adding fiber by Andrea Stefanac [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35) Hot spots? by Melissa Leaist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 36) Good Boy: Oct 2003 Movie with Berner star by Jennifer Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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HI these postings come out frequently! - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4467 BERNER-L Digest 4467 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Sharon Montville [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) RE: Archives, on CD by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Mast Cell Tumors by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Silverfish by george hasenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: Mast Cell Tumors by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) May I be franc? by Lisa D Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Mast Cell Tumors by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: May I be franc? by DCD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) archives?? by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: BERNER-L digest 4466 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) A Bell? by Maria Crifasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) RE: Brewers yeast by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Guess who is 10! by Beatriz Insausti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) RE: Pet Insurance- Consumer Report by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) weather viens by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: weather viens by Molly Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Dog Bells by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Tilly by Christine Kabler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) need help with research by Beverly Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) OFA Heart by Karyn Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: weather vanes by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Berner weekend... by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: OFA Heart by Ruth Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Pat Tackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Silverfish by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: Silverfish (DE) by Andie Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) vaccines ?? by MARK DUVALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: Pet Insurance- Consumer Report by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) Re: vaccines ?? by Molly Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) Re: Oozing Cyst! by Jean Cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) How to stop barking by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) Consumer reports article by Andrea Stefanac [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Re: Silverfish (DE) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 34) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35) Re: BERNER-L digest 4466 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 36) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Puppy Issues
Ok berner experts as a I am a berner in waiting my wife has a concern that hopefully someone can respond to? Her concern is allowable length of time a new puppy can be left at home alone? That is in the event she chooses to go shopping with the girls or perhaps an occasional day trip. I am out of the house at 6 AM and I return at 4:30 Pm. At some point during the day if she decides to go out perhaps early morning what is the maximum allowable time to keep puppy in cage or pen? Thanks Kenny
Pet Therapy
Greetings all As some of you may remember, I am waiting to one day bring home a berner of my own! In the mean time I am researching for information on therapy training. I plan to train my berner as a therapy dog and I am interested in anyones advice or actual experiences with pet therapy? Please feel free to forward your opinions and experiences! Thanks Kenny (berner-in-waiting)
My Breeder
Hi All! I wanted to comment on the behavior post! I could not agree more about the good and bad, regarding breeders and owners! Reciently I attending two local shows and I met quite a variety of handlers and breeders! There were two berner breeders I met in Monticello, and they had no desire or intrest to speak with me! On the other hand, I also met some extremely nice, plesant, breeders that were very interested to answer my questions! I don't quite understand the snobish attitude of some people, I guess it's just human nature! Thank goodnes I have found a breeder that I have determined to be the right one for me! I met her and her berners and she was very impressive! I am convinced that she is totally dedicated to the breed! Now the hard part waiting for a littertic tic tic tic time seems to drag! Her name..lets just say M! Although, I continue to research the breed and talk with breeders just to keep my mind off the fact that I am still waiting to be owned by a Berner! Berner-In-Waiting :-) Kenny
Climbing the walls
Hi gang! This is nuts I'll admit but I am climbing the walls thinking about my Berner! We are still waiting to see if the breeders female is actually expecting, apparently there is a 30 day waiting periord after the actual mating to determine pregnancy? I'm packing up the kids today to go visit Bernie my sisters Golden! I'm 44 yrs old and feel like a kid on Christmas Morning waiting for my new puppy! If in fact the female is in a motherly way I will not have a pup until JUNE! Does anybody need a berner sitter I'M AVAILABLE!! Kenny
Whats so special?
Greetings berner people, Now that I am very much looking forward to the berner experience, I have a question? Playing devils advocate, just what is so special about a Bernese Mountain Dog? My sisters Golden provided tons of love and affection. What do Berners have that Goldens or other breeds don't have? I'll be expecting some interesting feedback! Thanks In Advance Kenny-Waiting-For-His-Berner-B
Re: fur in ice cubes - a small price to pay (for Kenny)
Great advice! I have found, met, interviewed and been accepted by a breeder now we are waiting on the mother to be! Thanks Kenny
Enough is Enough
I am going out of my mind over this Berner! Today I got feedback from my vetinerian and he basically confirmed what I have already learned from all of the experienced berner owners here at Berner L! My wife is flexible but thinks I'm off my rocker! She feels the the Felix Unger in me will not deal well with dog hair all over. She might have a point but then again maybe not? One thing is for sure, I love the breed and despratly want my children to experience having a dog in the home. However, on the other hand I realize that when the novelty weras off It will be like getting them to do a chore around the house. See what I mean! This stuff goes through my head day and night! Lord give me the wisdom and strength to make the right decision! Kenny
Yet another thought
I noticed the Greater Swiss Mountain dogs at the show! How do they differ from the Berner?? Kenny
Had enough
At this point I am taking a break from pooch research! Berner Pros: Unconditional love and companionship Cons: Hair in my ice trays and butter tray tens of thousands of dollars in vet bills 7.5 life expectancy my home is too small ? can I handle the fur balls? Some Berner owners seem to want to discourage others from them? Will a berner be happy in my life style? Finally, Tonight a breeder from Albany told me she would not sell me a pup because I live in a town home and I have three flights of stairs! I don't want an unhappy berner. Peace Out All! Kenny
Re: Kenny's choice
Thanks Lisa, Although your information was very negative I apprieciate and need to know both good and bad of berner ownership. You say you paid 30X the purchase price of your berner for his illness? The breeder I met and very much liked gets $1500 per pup. If in fact that is the going rate do you mean to tell me that I should expect to pay $45000.00 for vet charges for my berner? Is there insurance available for them because $45k is way over my expected berner vet budget expectations?? Concerned. Kenny
My Berner Opinion
First off I'd like to thank everyone that has offered their opinions and experiences both good and bad. It seems like your mailing group contains a very diverse collection of Bernese Mountain Dog lovers! Some seem to dwell the negative while others embrace the positive. At this point I don't see myself spending several thousands of dollars for the illness of a dog that is near an unavoidable death. Hopefully that does not make me a bad person? Next, I am in love with the breed and choose to persue finding a good reputable breeder (which I think I already found). My decision will be based on my breeder and rest assured all the issues brought up in this forum will be discussed at great length between myself and which ever breeder I decide on. Finally, NO Teressa I don't cast away a sick pet! I will do the best I can with what ever means I have but I will not be spending ten's of thousand's of dollars on berner or any other pet that ultimatly faces terminal illness. I hope someone out there understands my point of view and that I am not condemed as some animal hater Thanks to ALL! Kenny
I'm SOLD!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to All for the Great responses!! I think I can deal with the hair (fur) issues? Hopefully the consciensous breeder will help avoid serious health issues? I noticed the poop eating issues in the mailing (YUK-YUK-YUK-YUK) gotta break that habit!!! Cost is an issue as well and hopefully my Berner does not put me in the poor house? Just came home from the Montecello NY, Dog Show and met some very friendly Berners! The Champion was from Penn., his head was enormous! I am very impressed with the size of some of these males!!! I am interested in showing and breeding however I don't want to get in over my head here, as they say inch by inch life is a cinch! My next obstacle is convincing my wife that all the fur is worth the wonderful love and joy provided by the Berners! Again thanks to all the support and I will keep in touch!! Kenny-(Wants a Berner)- Babcock
To Berner or not to Berner??
Greetings to all the expert Owners of Bernese Mt. Dogs! My name is Kenny and I reciently fell in love with the BMD! I am seriously considering, no...no, I mean I'd love to own a BMD!! However I have a few concerns: Shedding/is my home large enough/temperment/barking/and will the breed fit into my lifestyle? I live in a 3 floor townhome with a fenced in back yard (20' X35), hopefully daily walks and the small yard will please the breed? Last week I dog sitted my sisters 70Lb. Golden Retriever to experience life with a large dog (although 20 or 30Lbs a Berner). The first two days were difficult in that he was heavly shedding and the hair was a nusance! However I seemed to adjust by day three and just vacummed and brushed daily! By the end of the week I and my family were attached to this beautiful dog. Bernie filled our home with a special warmth and love with his laid back temperment. He is missed, as he went home 3 days ago and my children, (3boys, 20,12,9) enjoyed him greatly. I'm told the berners are similar in temperment to the Golden? Finally barking, neighbors have a Sheltie and a besicon that are cronic barkers and is quite unplesant at times! I prefer a controlled to non-existent barker. You may ask, why not get a Golden? I just loved the look and size of the BMD I met a few breeders and found one I am comfertable with. I met her and her BMD's and loved playing with all of them. I guess I'm seeking advice or reassurance that my home and lifestyle will accomidate a Berner. Thanks for any possible advice! Kenny B.
