RE: Tennessee police

2003-01-12 Thread Matt Julia Richert
It is easy to condemn this police officer, but before we rush to
judgment, we perhaps should attempt to put ourselves in the shoes of the
officer.

Police officers must react with amazing rapidity to all kinds of things
that most of us could never even dream up. They must make split-second
decisions in assessing a potentially dangerous situation. Sadly, it is
not uncommon in the slightest for criminals to train dogs to be,
essentially, weapons. So it is not at all unreasonable for an officer
who believes that a serious crime has been committed to believe that a
dog traveling with the suspects could be dangerous.  

It is easy to look at that footage, while we are sitting relaxed and
comfortable at our computers, and see what that dog's real intentions
were. But in the heat of an arrest and a situation perceived to be
dangerous, a police officer simply can't see all the nuances that we
can. There just isn't time.

I'm not condoning the officer's actions -- I don't think any of us know
enough yet to really say if he was right or not. My heart goes out to
the family for the loss of their beloved pet and for the trauma of
witnessing it. But I strongly believe that it is wrong to be accusing
that officer of malicious and stupid action until the facts are more
clearly known. Police officers risk their lives for all of us on a daily
basis. They at least deserve the benefit of the doubt. 

And, lest we forget, don't you imagine the officer feels terribly guilty
for what happened? He may also feel justified, but I would bet that he
feels just terrible for killing the dog, especially in front of the
family. 

Just my two cents,
Julia
Lily  Max
Astoria, OR




RE: vaccinations

2002-11-24 Thread Matt Julia Richert
Most of the vet schools have issued revised recommended vaccination
protocols, advocating boosters only every three years, and only giving
non-essential vaccinations (like bordatella, Lyme disease, etc. if
your dog is actually at risk for infection). I think these changed
recommendations are great steps in the right direction for the vet
medicine field. I don't believe in no vaccinations -- but I do think
that minimal vaccination is the way to go.

If anyone would like the sites/documents with the modified vaccination
protocols, I have them from CSU, UC Davis, NCSU and Penn. I would be
happy to send them to anyone interested.

Julia
Lily  Max
Astoria, OR

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Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:00 PM
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Subject: Fw: vaccinations


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From: Mark Mohapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Berner L praor
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Subject: vaccinations


 Hello Everyone:

 I know this is a subject that has been discussed very much.  However -
this
 is the first time my brother who is a veterinarian admitted to me that
he
 does not vaccinate his dogs regularly - (by that I mean he waits until
every
 3 years for all vaccinations).  He used to give me a hard time about
 challenging vaccinations and this is the first time I have heard him
say
 everyone needs to be careful about vaccinations and the frequency of
them.

 I am reading a book What Vets Don't You About Vaccines.

 In any event - the norm on vaccinations for dogs is changing and I
encourage
 all to question their vets regarding their openness and knowledge of
this
 change.

 Also - it is NOT just Bernese Mountain Dogs with their special
compromised
 immune systems - this includes all breeds of dogs and cats.

 Thanks for letting me vent and be careful everyone.

 Mark
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]








RE: Martha And Berners

2002-11-21 Thread Matt Julia Richert
For a long time, I vacillated back and forth about this issue -- Berners
and media exposure (much like I did about quality breeders advertising
their litters via newspaper and/or internet). I have thought long and
hard about both sides, and it has not been easy for me to decide how I
feel about it, but I have.

I don't think we can prevent Berners from being in the media, and I
don't think we should try. Why? Because they have already been
discovered and the media types -- just like impatient PPOs -- are
going to get them one way or another. If not from responsible owners,
then guess who will be lining up to take the cash for the photo shoots?
A group that I would imagine would be made up of the same kind of folks
who breed dogs for profit. So Puppy Miller X takes his Berner to an ad
shoot, gets paid, and is informed that the ad will show up on pg 43 of
Dog Fancy in 4 months. Guess what else is going to show up on that
two-page spread? A display ad for Puppy Miller X's Berner kennel. Talk
about setting things up for instant gratification - and disaster. I
don't want to see that, if we can avoid it. If the Berners featured in
advertising are from responsible owners or breeders, the chance of that
happening is dramatically reduced. 

We all know Berners are beautiful dogs. They are eye-catching. That's
what advertising is all about, and we can't change that. Berners are,
and will continue to be, in demand. And, just maybe, with time, if
Berners are allowed to be visible, their novelty will wear off. And
that IS a good thing. 

I hate to sound cynical, but I'm trying to be pragmatic. Honestly, do
you think that there is anything the Dalmatian people could've done to
prevent 101 Dalmatians? Nope. Commerce is a mighty, mighty force. If
Disney (or anyone) wants to make a movie about Berners someday, we can't
stop it. We can hope to high heaven that never happens. But if it does,
I think the Berner community as a whole is ill-prepared to deal with it.
I believe we're naïve to think we can keep these dogs under the radar
and never have to deal with that problem. I believe we should be
assuming that it is just a matter of time until something like 101
Berners happens, and should be preparing for that now. I think the best
we can do is keep upping our efforts on all fronts, always be open to
new ideas, and try everything that just might work in some small way.
There is no silver bullet. We have to be creative, dedicated and never
give up. Continue and enhance educational and legislative efforts.
Endless outreach -- both planned and in everyday contact. Whatever we
can to get the message out about responsible ownership and acquisition
of dogs. But we can't make people not notice Berners, and I think we
will shoot ourselves in our collective feet if we try.

Berners are already popular, and that's consistently increasing. I
believe we have to be proactive to save the breed from disaster. I think
it's dangerous to think we can hide them and that will prevent problems.
It's too late for that. Why not attempt to manage the media demand,
instead of let those less responsible fill it?

Just my several cents,
Julia
Lily  Max
Astoria, OR 

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Subject: Martha And Berners

Julia, 
You may not be worried about Martha's next dog being a Berner but every
time that I see a Berner in the Media, I cringe these days. This
exposure brings about more interest and demand for our dogs. I have
watched this breed become more and more popular over the years and it is
frightening me. Breeders can not properly deal with the demand side of
this problem. We are just barely getting up to speed with recognizing
inheritable genetic diseases and trying to manage breeding programs to
minimize their occurance. It is not a 'good thing' to see life-size
pictures of a Berner head on Purina dog food. Berner images on pee- pee
pads, flea and tick collars and meds, Flonase commercials etc.
Commercials provoke interest and interest creates demand. Demand often
gets the wrong people owning and/or breeding these dogs with bad
results. I'm not saying to hide your berners under a bushel basket, but
to not willingly put them out into the limelight of the general public
media outlets. Continue to attend dog events and socialize your dogs.
That is definitely a good thing. But lets continue to leave the cute
picture taking to the ever present, mixed breeds, golden retrievers and
cocker spaniels. The next big thing as far as the media is concerned
should be the cuteness factor of all those dogs and cats in humane
society shelters. THEY are the ones that need the publicity. 
Please think about the impact you are about to make everytime the
general media wants to cover your event...
This is from a reformed thinker who once thought it was going to be a
cool thing if we got a group of Berners into the 

RE: Alternative Breed Recommendations

2002-10-06 Thread Matt Julia Richert

The first thing that comes to my mind is a Cavalier King Charles
Spaniel. Yes, they are A LOT smaller, but they do meet the criteria you
set out. The breed is also burdened with many BYBs and they are a very
popular puppy mill/pet store breed, so much caution must be used when
looking for a responsible breeder.

Julia
Lily  Max 
Astoria, OR

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Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:14 PM
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Subject: Alternative Breed Recommendations

Ok, gang, here is a good opportunity for some spirited and lively
discussion...  I have just been slammed recently with PPO's looking for
berner puppies. Many, after we talk, decide a berner is not for them,
mostly due to size, shedding and the challenges of having berners in our
hot Southern climate.  Inevitably, they ask me to recommend another
breed. They want a smaller, less-shedding, climate-tolerant dog with a
berner temperament (sweet, laid-back, great with kids, friendly,
outgoing), not hyper, no special exercise requirements, etc.  Most don't
want Labs or Goldens because they are too common and too hyper.  Any
suggestions on other breeds I could recommend?

Mary Shaver and the girls, Laurel and Bailey (us, too big, too sheddy,
too drooly??)
Fayetteville, GA