Re: Carpet Odors/Thank You!

2003-08-17 Thread Sara Steele
Hi All, with special attention to those of you who sent me tips on getting
excrement and regurg odors out of my carpets.
Unfortunately, I am not able to reply to the five of you who posted
privately, as I my computer is crashing and I have
been deleting everything, in a futile effort to spare the computer the
burden of having too much on its memory. At first I thought
it was a problem of having too much stuff stored in the computer, but I have
tons of ram to cover for my music programs. I
know that my Word 2000 is definitely on the way out, so I have spent the
last few days, day and night, in a panic,stripping all the Word
files and folders out to discs. Today, I learned that it is not only Word,
but the computer itself that is getting ready to deep six.
So, when I get all of this computer business settled, I will re-ask the odor
question, and I hope that you will once again
indulge me with the answers.  Thank you all so much!  sara steele



Elliiott

2003-08-01 Thread Sara Steele
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Happy Swiss Day, Aug 1, To All!

2003-08-01 Thread Sara Steele
Swiss CalendarSwiss National Holiday, Confederation Day
in de, it, frBundesfeier; Festa Nazionale; FĂȘte Nationale
When?August 1
Why? Confederation Day, the Swiss National Holiday, celebrated on August 1,
was instaured at the end of the XIX century. The date refers to an agreement
made at the beginning of August 1291 between Uri, Schwyz and Nidwalden.
Traditional observance includes bonfires on the the Mountains and
celebrations in the communities, occasions for patriotic speeches. Modern
observance, fostered by the Tourist offices, include fireworks or even
August 1 parades.
A constitutional change, voted by the Swiss in 1993, proclaimed it a public
holiday in the entire country. Before, it had generally been a partial
working day.
Links:. Agreement of 1291 : Local link: text of the latin original with
translations in English, German, Italian, French
. Swiss Customs: The Swiss National Holiday
sara steele



Re: Move over Dog!!

2003-07-05 Thread Sara Steele
Hi Rose,
That experience with lightning was really scary. The Man upstairs was on
your side that day!  Here in New Jersey, not long ago, we had lightning take
out one of the TV sets and the furnace! My Mother, out in Illinois, had a
completely different experience---lightning, rather than take out an
appliance, actually turned her oven
on! Years ago, when we lived in Massachusettes, I was sitting across from
the front door, which was open, when the rain started. All of a sudden, I
felt my
hair stand on end. I dashed to the front door and slammed it shut. The bolt
didnt hit close, but it was close enough. I realize that I was taking a huge
risk by rushing to the door to close it. There was no time to think, but I
knew that it is best if your doors and windows are closed (screens don't
count.) At that time, I somehow thought that my chances were better at
getting the door closed than trying to retreat backwards across the room.
Once you feel your hair stand on end, lightning is targeting you. So, I
figured, that, maybe it would chase me across the room. So, better to block
its path by closing the door. Right or wrong?At least, I didnt have to learn
the hard way.
Another time, here in New Jersey, I, who grew up in Illinois (tornado
territory) and should know better,  did the wrong thing. Seemingly, all of a
sudden, it got very dark, very windy, and the rain started blowing fiercely
from the southwest right into the sun room. It was like someone was pointing
a garden hose in the room.
Not wanting a soaked room, I dashed to the door and closed it!  Then,
thinking tornado, I herded the dogs to the basement, and huddled them in the
southwest corner. At that time, it sounded like a huge tractor trailer was
lumbering up the steep hill in front of the house, in first gear. Later, I
learned that it really was a tornado. Not a common thing for New Jersey!
This tornado, of over a decade ago, left a path of damage, some of which can
still be seen to this day.
A horse barn roof, several miles away in the town to the southwest of mine,
lost it's roof. The pathway was obvious in the back of my house. My roof was
spared. Miles away, way out on I-80, to the northeast of us, on the way to
New York City, a huge trail of ripped up trees was to be seen. One should
NOT, I am told,  close the doors and windows in the case of a tornado. This
creates a pressure that can contribute to lifting the roof off the house. I
would be interested in hearing what safety tips the rest of you might offer
all of us on dealing with lightning and tornados.  Twice, now, I have had to
make split second decisions. It helps, if one knows ahead of time what to
do.
My Yutzi is terrified of thunder and high winds. He knows that the high
winds may be followed by thunder. How he ever developed a fear of thunder, I
do not know. Fireworks, the deep-sounding ones, frighten him, too,, as they
are thunder-like. Once, we were carting in a parade, and one of the
bandsmen, struck a roll on his bass drum---spooking the heck out of Yutzi. I
wonder, how the wolves manage with all this,
sara steele




Photos from Ottawa,5-23-03.doc

2003-05-29 Thread Sara Steele
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Re: mast cell

2003-03-29 Thread Sara Steele
Have you done the 6 weeks of Prednisone therapy?
That is what we did with Laura for her Grade II.
Laura never had multiple surgeries. Her Grade II was her first, and it was
treated with wide incision surgery, followed by 6 Weeks of Pred Therapy
(which we were told by several Vets was "standard" treatment for Grade II).
Laura had no recurrence for years after that. Then, she finally got a Grade
I, had that removed, with no Pred; she succumbed a year later to Grade III
at age 10 yr 7 mo.
I strongly (!) recommend you do the 6 weeks of Prednisone Therapy for your
Grade II.
Sara Steele



- Original Message -
From: "Teri Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: mast cell


> Well we just finished with our 5th surgery for mast cell grade II on our
> boy.  He was first diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago with multiple sites and has
> been doing well on holistic meds and now chinese herbs.  Just don't want
to
> keep cutting.  Wondering has anyone else had so many surgeries?  Do we
keep
> cutting with wide margins?  Successes?   Really want the tumors to stop
> growing.  Other than the tumors, he's healthy, happy, full of vim and
vigor.
> Just turned 6 in Feb and want to keep him around for a long long time.
> Thanks Teri
>



Re: Stevie's Progress! (Happy News!!)

2003-03-27 Thread Sara Steele
I am so delighted to hear this!!!
sara steele
- Original Message -
From: "Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Berner List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Stevie's Progress! (Happy News!!)


> Dear List,
> I just had to write and let you all know that I have been steadily washing
> up tons and tons of very muddy paw prints off of my kitchen floor and back
> porch floor. Stevie has been going outside (on leash of course, and
> certainly not without me!!) and doing alot of walking.  He has gained so
> much confidence in the last week it is uncanny.  A Guardian Angel from
> across the pond mercifully sent us some boots with fabulous traction, and
> almost immediately he started to progress.  There is still a significant
> amount of ice and snow around and I really believe that this was a big
part
> of Stevie's problem. He did not feel safe and was unsure of his footing.
> These boots, which are the same kind that Search and Rescue dogs use
whilst
> going through debris and rubble, were a God send and we are so grateful to
> my dear friend Cecilia Staal. (Love you Cecilia, but you knew that
> already!!) We started out slowly at first and it did take a few tries to
get
> Stevie used to the boots, but after much praise and lots of treats, he
> settled into them like they had been always on his feet.  The last couple
of
> days has been warmer and the snow and ice are finally beginning to melt.
We
> have been out so much for little walks, Stevie tires very easily and pants
a
> tremendous amount but we will build that up soon I am sure. Now this is
for
> my dear friend down south, Stevie actually trotted and ran a few steps
today
> after a large bird that was in his back yard!! I was so excited that I
> tripped and fell into a very wet and muddy spot, I was laughing and crying
> at the same time. Stevie just looked at me curiously, because I am sure
> after all this drama and emotion lately, he has come to the conclusion
that
> his Mum is just a few sandwiches short of a picnic!!  I am so happy and
> grateful and truly feel now that Stevie will be ok. We saw his neurologist
> last Wednesday and we don't have to go back unless there are problems. He
is
> very pleased with his remarkable progress and he does not feel that there
is
> any permanent neurological or mental deficits.  He has gained almost all
the
> weight that he lost except for approx. 4 pounds.  The vets are equally as
> amazed as I am and said that Stevie definitely had an angel with him, back
> that cold, grey day in January. I am so proud of Stevie and my heart is
just
> so full, I could just burst. Even though my own personal life is still
> somewhat of a mess, these milestones that we make with my beloved boy seem
> to make everything alright and it definitely gives me purpose.
> I will never complain about the black tumbleweeds of berner hair that I
find
> under and in furniture, I gladly and lovingly wash up the mud and crud and
> corruption that this time of year brings when you have a gentle giant who
is
> now slowly becoming more and more active outside  I scrub and clean
that
> floor actually with a big grin on my face, can you imagine!!
> Thank you all so much for the continued love and support, it is so
important
> to us and we appreciate it deeply.
> Love from
> Karen and Stevie
> NB, Canada
>



GMC/Chrevolet Warning!!! Hazardous to Dogs!!!

2003-03-18 Thread Sara Steele
Hi All,
I have a GMC Safari (it's Chevrolet equivalent is the Astro), which has rear
door problem, which is dangerous to dogs. If the automatic (electronic)
control is not working (due to some problem, like a fuse blowing out or
other damage to the electrical system), there is no manual way to open the
rear doors! Those of us dog people who have these vehicles, got them so that
we could take advantage of those rear doors, by facing our crates to the
rear and having our dogs enter and exit from the rear.
If the doors are not operable, then we have no way of getting the dogs out
in (or out) an emergency.  If the automatic system blows out, we are faced
with having to turn the crates around, with dogs averaging 90-110 lb INSIDE
these crates, in order to get our dogs out. We have had to do this, now,
three times (!), when the electrical/automatic system failed for various
reasons. Fortunately, none of these three times was in an emergency, when
time was of essence. My GMC Safari is at the dealer service shop right now
having its eletrical system worked on. I asked whether they could fix it so
that the rear doors have a manual option. They said no, it is not possible.
I told them that dogs could die because of this. He told me, in so many
words, tough s.., very few of GMC's customers around the world use these
vehicles for dogs. I explained to him that should all the dog people around
the world stop buying the GMC Safari and Chevrolet Astro, GMC's pocket book
would notice it.

After my recalcitrant vehicle comes back from the GMC shop, I am taking it
to STS. I talked, today, to a mechanic there, and he thinks he might be able
to render the rear doors manual. I will let you all know how this comes out.
In the meantime, avoid getting the GMC vehicles, as not having an option for
manual operation for the rear doors could be lethal to your dogs!!!  I will
be writing a letter to GMC about this. I may also send cc's to the AKC, CKC,
etc---get the word out.

Any feedback on this subject?
Sara Steele



Re: Goodnight Deuce

2003-03-17 Thread Sara Steele
I am so sorry to hear this. Your dog is very special, and he had a good life
because he got to spend so much time playing and working with you, doing
agility, obedience, and carting, as evidenced by all those titles. Dogs love
nothing more than spending time with their owners.
 He can play agility with Louise Wetzel's Sophie, who left for the bridge on
Sat, March 15.
We are all going to miss Deuce and Sophie---two really super dogs with lots
of performance titles.
My Laura (De-Li's Look Who's Talking) is already up there to greet them, and
she likes to play agility, too.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Sara Steele

- Original Message -
From: "bmd4me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Berner-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Goodnight Deuce


> Deuce was ready, so we sent him to play agility with my Star and all the
> other berners at the bridge.
>
> U-ATCH U-CDX Dabrak's Donar Double-Take AX OAJ CDX NDD AD NAC NGC NJC
> 5/20/1994 - 3/17/2003
>
> Goodbye my sweet boy, until we meet again.
>
> Greg & Christy Varhaug
> Houston TX
>



Re: Eating poop

2003-02-27 Thread Sara Steele
Typo---the word is "coprophage".

- Original Message -----
From: "Sara Steele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: Eating poop


> Hi All,
> My Berners have never been poop eaters, but my rescue mixed breed is a
true
> caprophage. I gave up on her and got a muzzle. She still gets the stuff (I
> can tell, because the muzzle comes in smudged), but she cant get as much.
> She used to eat so much of it---pardon me---that she tossed it up. That, I
> could not take.  sara steele
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Eating poop
>
>
> > The age old problem that I know has been discussed before on BernerL,
> > however, it is now happening to us and both our dogs, Mocha 5 and Kona 9
> > months are doing it regularly.
> >
> > We feed them a well rounded diet including fresh vegetables and Fromms
> > kibble.
> > It is really getting to become an annoying habit. What can we do other
> than
> > walk them in our fenced yard.
> > Andrew
> >
>



Re: Eating poop

2003-02-27 Thread Sara Steele
Hi All,
My Berners have never been poop eaters, but my rescue mixed breed is a true
caprophage. I gave up on her and got a muzzle. She still gets the stuff (I
can tell, because the muzzle comes in smudged), but she cant get as much.
She used to eat so much of it---pardon me---that she tossed it up. That, I
could not take.  sara steele
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Eating poop


> The age old problem that I know has been discussed before on BernerL,
> however, it is now happening to us and both our dogs, Mocha 5 and Kona 9
> months are doing it regularly.
>
> We feed them a well rounded diet including fresh vegetables and Fromms
> kibble.
> It is really getting to become an annoying habit. What can we do other
than
> walk them in our fenced yard.
> Andrew
>



Re: writing

2003-02-26 Thread Sara Steele
What a wonderful idea!
We should all put our stuff together and write a book!
We could have a whole chapter on poop.
sara
- Original Message - 
From: "Rhona Vantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: writing


> I've only been reading the List since last August so
> not sure if this idea has been approached before but I
> thought this morning what a wonderful idea it would be
> to capture some of the stories people send in about
> their Berners . and get them printed!  All
> proceeds to go to a Berner cause! 
> It would be wonderfully informative, have gorgeous
> pictures and of course be a bestseller!!! 
> Any thoughts on this???
> Rhona (English) and Louis (Belgian)
> in The Netherlands  
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/
> 



Re: Soft treats

2003-01-07 Thread Sara Steele
I use London Broil, cooked, sliced thin.
Sara Steele

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Soft treats


> In a message dated 1/7/2003 12:12:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Does anyone have a recipe for soft treats that won't
> >  crumble?
>
> I buy high quality deli turkey in a 3/8"-1/2" slab.  Cut into cubes and
> freeze laying flat in a ziploc bag.  When you want to use them, put a
handful
> on a papertowel and microwave on high for a minute or so.  You'll end up
with
> a treat that's soft but not messy and you can put it in your mouth
(sometimes
> the easiest place to stash treats for ready use).
>
> -Sherri Venditti
>




Re: low lying pillows, newspapers, and magazines are in danger!

2002-12-27 Thread Sara Steele
Hi,
Chester is bored silly; that is his problem. So, give him a job to do. Take
Chester to Obedience School. Dogs love to learn, and they love the
one-on-one quality time they get in Obedience training. This will cost you
one hour per week, plus 15-30 minutes, daily, doing "homework". Obedience,
plus the Exercise program that someone else on the list suggested, should
solve your Enron Dog problems. You will all have fun with this. Sara Steele

- Original Message -
From: Bonawitz, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: low lying pillows, newspapers, and magazines are in danger!


> I have a 16 month old male Berner who has suddenly developed a bad habit.
> My wife and I both work, and for months Chester "behaved himself"
perfectly
> while we were gone (we pretty much give him free reign in the house).  In
> the past few weeks, all of a sudden, if there are any newspapers or
> magazines lying on the coffee table (in our family room, which due to it's
> size we can't close off), we come home to find that he's shredded them
> better than an Enron employee.  He seems to know that it's bad since as
soon
> as we open the door and see it, he takes off.  I've tried taking him over
to
> the shredded papers and telling him "no" as well as taking him to [OK]
> papers lying on the table and telling him "no", but it does no good.  We
now
> leave no papers on the coffee table, but he then goes after the pillows on
> the sofa (smart little bastard!).
>
> I would really prefer not to crate him all day, especially since he was so
> good for ~ 8 months of this (and day care was too expensive).  However,
our
> family room has lost it's comfort with all of the pillows now stored up on
> top of the sofa backs and no reading material on the coffee table while
> we're gone.  We have bones lying there for him to play with, which he does
> do sometimes, but I don't know if he gets bored with it or what.  Any
> suggestions as to what I can try doing?
>
> Thanks
>
> - Greg
>




Re: Draft Test Pictures

2002-12-02 Thread Sara Steele
Hi Tom,
Awesome site!
Mt Washington right there in the background! What a hill that would make!
sara steele
  
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Jaskiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:01 AM
Subject: Draft Test Pictures


> I have put up a page of pictures from the fall BMDCNV draft test at:
> 
> http://www.mv.com/ipusers/jaskiewicz/bmdcnv_dt02.html
> 




Re: Male Problems

2002-12-02 Thread Sara Steele
Michele L is correct. And, bitches in season in the neighborhood can
exacerbate the problem.
Take a urine sample to the vet, and have him/her to a (aagggh) prostate
check. It is treated with antibiotics.
sara

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: Male Problems


> Sounds like Prostatitis or Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH).  Did your
vet
> do a urine culture or prostate check? Certainly worth giving the vet
another
> call, or finding a new one!
> Michele L
>
>
> >
> > Anybody out there with intact males or even altered ones ever
experienced
> > the
> > following?  About 8 months or so ago Sisco had a couple of days of
> > occasional
> > few drops of bloody discharge from his penis.  Took him to the vet who,
of
> > course, couldn't find anything wrong and figured he just might have
snagged
> > his
> > privates on some brambles or something on one of his rambles through the
> > woods.
> >   Nothing was done, and it went away.  Now he's just started with the
> > encore
> > performance in the past few days.  Occasionally, once or twice a day, a
few
> >
> > drops of blood, again discharged from his penis; shows up on the floor
> > after
> > he's been lying around, and when examined, you can see it coming from
the
> > actual
> > penile canal opening.  No pain, no swelling, no sensitivity to being
> > handled, no
> > change of any appetite, behaviour, or bodily discharges - nada.  Anyone?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Learning lessons the hard way...

2002-11-23 Thread Sara Steele
I haate to do nails! I am terrified to do my pit bull's nails---but  not
because of her breed.  She, the pit bull, is very sweet about this, but her
quicks seem to be several inches long and go on forever and ever and ever ,
so I never know where it is safe to clip.
sara

- Original Message -
From: Patricia McIlveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'berner-l' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:46 PM
Subject: RE: Learning lessons the hard way...


> One time (c. 1989) I clipped my bulldog girl's nails and made her
> bleed...The next time she was fine.
>
> But.. even with some counter-conditioning and positive reinforcement and
> desensitization, *I* still get very goosey about nail trims. I need to
> be clicker trained!
>
> Patricia McIlveen (Yeoman, Reba & Gus)
> Calgary, AB
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: catherine green
>
> I cut one too short and he started bleeding. So now, even with some
> counter-conditioning and positive reinforcement and desensitization, he
> STILL gets very goosey about nail trims.
>




Blue Eyes and Registries

2002-10-16 Thread Sara Steele


  Hi,
You can (and, in fact, must) register your dog with all the legitimate
registriesAKC, CKC, UKC, SKC, ASCA, USDAA, NADAC and show your dog in
all the performance (obedience, tracking, carting, agility) activities you
want to. You do not need to be in any registry to do Pet Therapy. For
therapy work, you should enlist in one of the therapy organizations, like
TDI (Therapy Dogs International), so that you are protected by insurance
when you go to a hospital, school, or nursing home. To get hooked up with
TDI, you need to take the CGC/TDI test.
The Registries I listed are:
AKC   American Kennel Club
CKC  Canadian Kennel Club
UKC United Kennel Club
SKC States Kennel Club
ASCA Australian Shepherd Club of America (non-Aussies can register for
Performance activities at ASCA)
USDAA United States Dog Agility Association
NADAC North American Dog Agility Council
These are all legitimate registries and, once registered, you can earn lots
of titles!
Get those blue eyes out there and go for it!
sara steele

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: blue eyed pup (long)




Re: blue eyed pup (long)

2002-10-16 Thread Sara Steele

Hi,
You can (and, in fact, must) register your dog with all the legitimate
registriesAKC, CKC, UKC, SKC, ASCA, USDAA, NADAC and show your dog in
all the performance (obedience, tracking, carting, agility) activities you
want to. You do not need to be in any registry to do Pet Therapy. For
therapy work, you should enlist in one of the therapy organizations, like
TDI (Therapy Dogs International), so that you are protected by insurance
when you go to a hospital, school, or nursing home. To get hooked up with
TDI, you need to take the CGC/TDI test.
The Registries I listed are:
AKC   American Kennel Club
CKC  Canadian Kennel Club
UKC United Kennel Club
SKC States Kennel Club
ASCA Australian Shepherd Club of America (non-Aussies can register for
Performance activities at ASCA)
USDAA United States Dog Agility Association
NADAC North American Dog Agility Council
These are all legitimate registries and, once registered, you can earn lots
of titles!
Get those blue eyes out there and go for it!
sara steele

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: blue eyed pup (long)


> Hi Audrey,
>
> Here are answers to your questions, hope it helps you sort things out.
>
> > 1.  I was wondering if I purchase a blue eyed berner could I still
compete
> >  in carting and obedience?
>
> Absolutely! ...and tracking and agility and therapy work...
>
> >  2.  Is this pup not able to be registered?
>
> Provided the pup's parents are registered with a recognized registry and
the
> breeder completes the registration process, a blue-eyed pup certainly CAN
be
> registered.  Since you're in Canada, I assume you'd want to register with
the
> CKC (Canadian Kennel Club).
>
> ***WARNING!!!***
> There is a registry used by puppy millers and brokers that also calls
itself
> (not conincidentally) the CKC (to stand for Continental Kennel Club).
> Another registry used by commercial producers & brokers is APRI.  When you
> talk with a breeder about *registration*  in North America...make sure
you're
> talking about either the *Canadian Kennel Club* or the *American Kennel
> Club*...period.
>
> >  3. What are the chances if bred of having brown eyed pups??
>
> Blue eyes are a hereditary trait, therefore, breeding a dog with a blue
eye
> increases the liklihood of producing puppies with blue eyes.  The BMD
> standards (a description of the the ideal BMD that responsible breeders
> strive for) around the world specify that the Bernese should have dark
brown
> eyes.
>
> Breeding responsibly entails protecting the breed for future generations
to
> enjoy.  Although each dog deviates from the standard in some respect, the
> only way to preserve the breed is to breed ONLY those dogs which come
closest
> to the 'ideal' detailed in the standard.  If breeders disregarded the
> standard and didn't plan breedings with the goal of getting closer to that
> ideal with each generation, it wouldn't be long before the Bernese no
longer
> looked or acted like the breed you fell in love with to begin with.
>
> So, you can see...breeding a dog with a blue eye would be doing a serious
> disservice to the breed.  The only reason for someone to do it would be
for
> profit, cleary NOT because they love and care about the breed.
>
> >  I hear in Switzerland that it is not a disqualification but in Canada
it
> is.
> >  Is this true?
>
> No, it's not true.  A blue eye is a dis-qualification in standards
throughout
> the world.
> Following are the descriptions of the desireable ("correct") eye and the
> disqualifications in the FCI*, CKC, and AKC versions of the standard.
> *The FCI standard is the Swiss standard, it's used in much of the world.
>
> FCI
> "Eyes - dark brown, almond shaped, with well fitting eyelids."
> "Disqualifying faults - split nose; wall eye; short coat, double coat
> (Stockhaar); other than tricoloured coat; other than black main colour."
> (wall eye another term for a blue eye)
>
> CKC
> "Eyes - dark brown in colour, almond shaped, and well set apart; tight
> eyelids."
> "Disqualifications - Cryptorchid or monorchid males; split nose; absent
> markings as described in compulsory markings; white neck ring; blue eye;
> ground colour other than black."
>
> AKC
> "The eyes - are dark brown and slightly oval in shape with close-fitting
> eyelids. Inverted or everted eyelids are serious faults. Blue eye color is
a
> disqualification."
>
> If you'd like to learn more about the standards, you'll find all three
side
> by side (along with other helpful information about sort