Re: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing]
Nancy, When I lived in a development I used IF on my Mel who was attacked by a stray Rhodesian Ridgeback that walked thru the IF. This stray, purebread dog, lived eight miles away in a different city! I do not denounce IF but, if someone has no other alternative but to install an IF, then they deffinately should hear the bad bad xperiences as well as the good. I am simply stating my experiences so that others can make a well informed determination on which type of fencing is best for their needs. - Denise Michigan USA Nancy wrote: Subject: RE: Invisable Fencing From: Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:11:49 -0800 To: Denise Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise -- In many cases, the problem when people inquire about IF is that they are not allowed to erect a physical fence without violating their housing plan rules. This problem is becoming more prevalent and so people are searching for information on alternative ways to protect their dogs from auto injury and roaming off premise in their neighborhoods. I live in such a neighborhood -- my neighbors contain their dogs, so there is virtually no problem with outside dogs roaming into our yards (it is against the law anyway, so our development can easily enforce this should someone be a bit lax -- a reminder letter usually does it). In addition, many people have IF signs posted in the yard indicating that an IF is present. There are ways of handling the situations that you describe and still use IF. What typically dictates how one handles containing one's dog (physical fencing or in-ground wire) are the constraints the individuals faces in their specific living environment. I have done both and can tell you that both options involve significant outlays of money when you are fencing multiple acres. Nancy Melone -Original Message- From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:58 PM To: Berner List Subject: Invisable Fencing Regarding invisible fencing. I do not have one, I have a physical fence. I have almost 3 acres fenced - yes it is expensive and there is maintenance, but I have piece of mind. Friends visit often bringing their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area. They could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep it leached up. I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs have ever escaped. My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a fight through the fence. An invisible fence can be deceiving to children, the postman and responsible adults. Most don't realize they are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late. Not all dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs. Have you ever walked through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four feet from you for no apparent reason. Granted no harm was done but the two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks. -Denise Michigan, USA
RE: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing]
I think that she was asking for experiences, both good and bad. That is the value of the Berner-l. My comment was not meant to upset you, just to broaden the discussion. Nancy Melone -Original Message- From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Berner List Subject: Re: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing] Nancy, When I lived in a development I used IF on my Mel who was attacked by a stray Rhodesian Ridgeback that walked thru the IF. This stray, purebread dog, lived eight miles away in a different city! I do not denounce IF but, if someone has no other alternative but to install an IF, then they deffinately should hear the bad bad xperiences as well as the good. I am simply stating my experiences so that others can make a well informed determination on which type of fencing is best for their needs. - Denise Michigan USA Nancy wrote: Subject: RE: Invisable Fencing From: Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:11:49 -0800 To: Denise Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise -- In many cases, the problem when people inquire about IF is that they are not allowed to erect a physical fence without violating their housing plan rules. This problem is becoming more prevalent and so people are searching for information on alternative ways to protect their dogs from auto injury and roaming off premise in their neighborhoods. I live in such a neighborhood -- my neighbors contain their dogs, so there is virtually no problem with outside dogs roaming into our yards (it is against the law anyway, so our development can easily enforce this should someone be a bit lax -- a reminder letter usually does it). In addition, many people have IF signs posted in the yard indicating that an IF is present. There are ways of handling the situations that you describe and still use IF. What typically dictates how one handles containing one's dog (physical fencing or in-ground wire) are the constraints the individuals faces in their specific living environment. I have done both and can tell you that both options involve significant outlays of money when you are fencing multiple acres. Nancy Melone -Original Message- From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:58 PM To: Berner List Subject: Invisable Fencing Regarding invisible fencing. I do not have one, I have a physical fence. I have almost 3 acres fenced - yes it is expensive and there is maintenance, but I have piece of mind. Friends visit often bringing their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area. They could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep it leached up. I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs have ever escaped. My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a fight through the fence. An invisible fence can be deceiving to children, the postman and responsible adults. Most don't realize they are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late. Not all dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs. Have you ever walked through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four feet from you for no apparent reason. Granted no harm was done but the two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks. -Denise Michigan, USA
Invisable Fencing
Regarding invisible fencing. I do not have one, I have a physical fence. I have almost 3 acres fenced - yes it is expensive and there is maintenance, but I have piece of mind. Friends visit often bringing their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area. They could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep it leached up. I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs have ever escaped. My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a fight through the fence. An invisible fence can be deceiving to children, the postman and responsible adults. Most don't realize they are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late. Not all dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs. Have you ever walked through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four feet from you for no apparent reason. Granted no harm was done but the two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks. -Denise Michigan, USA
