Re: Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-05 Thread Michaela Simmons
Susan Ablon wrote:
> Does your dog with the faster growing nails have the same feet as the one
> that keeps his trimmed. I mean are the toes rounded and tight or are his
> feet more open and flat?

I shall check right now!

Okay, upon close inspection I'd say my younger Tiger...er...Berner has
slightly more open feet than the older one. I couldn't really say they were
any flatter. But then I really didn't get that good a look since Rupert
mistook my inspection crouching down for a playbow and wacked me with his
sharp nailed paw right in the eye.

Ouch! No, REALLY.OUCH

Very interesting comment though. Thank you.

Michaela ( semi-blind) Harvey & by, by, clumsy Rupert
Devon/UK





Re: Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-05 Thread gwebara

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:22 - "Michaela Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

>Therefore, do you think it's perhaps simply due to
> different genes which regulate the rate of nail growth?

Does your dog with the faster growing nails have the same feet as the one
that keeps his trimmed. I mean are the toes rounded and tight or are his
feet more open and flat? This can affect the amount of trimming needed
even if the 2 get the same exercise. 

Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
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Re: Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-05 Thread Eileen Morgan


- Original Message -
From: "Michaela Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Huh? How would they achieve that? Vertical rock climing? Abseiling? 
(dew claw wear)

Well, when they are running and doing corners, the dewclaws of sighthounds
do touch ground. The slow motion camera is a wonderful thing! When we walk
Lliira and Cassie in rough terrain regularly, they do not need the same sort
of trimming that they do when only walking the smoother paths.

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
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Re: Dewclaw/nails wearing down due to usage

2002-12-05 Thread Patricia Tackett
Michaela -- I agree how can dewclaws be worn down   maybe from excessive holding 
onto chew bones  NOT  even if galloping on road that dewclaw wouldn't come into play 
much touching the ground.  I can see how it may help with landing while jumping or 
turning but just don't see it happening with most dogs that have the front dew claw 
(sorry Mary-Ann)  your explanation for reasons to keep front dewclaw was great.

Pat Tackett
Texas




Re: Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-05 Thread Kathryn Davis
When I'm picking puppies, even nail wear (front & back feet) is definitely
one thing I look for.  If a dog's front nails are worn down, but the back
nails long, it indicates to me that the dog does not have good drive & is
doing more 'pulling' with his front legs.  If his rear is worn down, but not
the front, it tells me the dog does not have good reach in the front, but
has good drive in the rear.  If the nails on all 4 feet are worn down, to
me, that's a dog with balance.

My Flat Coat tears around retrieving bumpers, etc & keeps his nails worn
down including his dew claws as he does a lot of quick bobs & weaves around
trees, up & down hills & seems to use his dews to help maneuver.

Kathy Davis   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windraider Kennels
California
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Re: Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-05 Thread Michaela Simmons
Ruth Reynold's wrote:
> I rarely have to trim toenails on my dogs including dewclaw nails.  I
always
> figured the dogs wear the regular nails down through their daily exercise.

Ruth, I used to think the same, but not any more!

 My 4 year old Berner gets tons of exercise and I NEVER had to trim his
nails. They are really short. However, his younger brother ( 16 months,
same dam, different sire) has nails which need constant clipping and yet he
gets exactly the same amount and type of exercise. Otherwise they are a
health hazard, no kidding. I swear you can actually watch those darn nails
grow. And, yes, they get a lot of road walking as well as lots of soft
terrain walking. Odd, huh?

> Dogs who are not as active or who have gross conformational flaws have
nails
> that need more attention at my house.

Well, Rupert IS fairly laid back but he gallops like a derwish with the
grace of a gazelle on his walks, thus I'm not sure that that would hold true
for mine either. Therefore, do you think it's perhaps simply due to
different genes which regulate the rate of nail growth?

 > Maybe they DO wear down the dewclaw
> nails through use.

Huh? How would they achieve that? Vertical rock climing? Abseiling? 

Michaela, Harvey & Rupert ( nails like a tiger!)
Devon/UK





Re: Nails. Is Wear A Sign of Use?

2002-12-04 Thread jean cheesman
>Maybe they DO wear down the dewclaw
>nails through use.

My Tinka was thirteen when suddenly she would paw my leg and leave
scratches, did start to clip her front dew claws then! Until then, no
problem! My three at the moment have front dew claws intact, they still seem
to wear them down naturally,

All love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
X
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Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-04 Thread Ruth Reynolds
I rarely have to trim toenails on my dogs including dewclaw nails.  I always
figured the dogs wear the regular nails down through their daily exercise.
Dogs who are not as active or who have gross conformational flaws have nails
that need more attention at my house.  Maybe they DO wear down the dewclaw
nails through use.

Ruth Reynolds





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2002-11-29 Thread Sweattees
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Re: Trimming Nails

2002-11-25 Thread Ray & Pat Burgett
We had always clipped nails and most dogs did not object after we got them
used to it.
The were not crazy about the electric Dermmel so purchased a battery
Dermmel.
Much to our surprise not one dog objected to the Battery Dremmel. It sure
makes for nice neat nails.

One thing we do with a new litter of pups is to make it a point to hold and
rub their feet each and every time we handle them.

This makes it much easier for the new owners.

Ray & Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese
Talee,Lexi,Boomer,Bell & Max
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RE: Clipping nails and etc.

2002-11-25 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Vicky,
Go back to using Resco nail clippers and just shaving a bit off each time.
He may not like the sensation of the Dremmel and it is surprising how
quickly the friction can build up heat and he may not appreciate that. I
have a long nail file especially for dogs that I use to round off the edges
after trimming. Major's sister Ursula is very ticklish about her feet, we
give her a good run to burn off the energy and then my husband holds her
while I do the arm wrestling thing! Its not like I'm a novice when it comes
to doggie pedicures but man this madam is something else so I guess Major
comes by his foot fetish naturally!!

Here's another tip:-) When you take him in for his xrays and he is sedated
take advantage of cutting the nails hard back.


Rose




Wearing nails on the road

2002-11-25 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Jean,
Only thing about relying on roadwork to wear down nails is the dewclaws on
the front legs don't have contact with the tarmac. People should pay
particular attention to these as I have seen some awful sights at the local
vets!!

Rose




Clipping nails and etc.

2002-11-23 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
Poor Major -- first we hear about his personal (and private) adolescent
sexual escapades and now we learn that he is a major wimp when it comes to
his nails. Vickey -- did your children used to say that you were
embarrassing them??!! Oh well, we promise not to tell Major that his mother
is telling stories about him.

My dogs get plenty of exercise and do not wear the nails short enough so I
trim them -- either with clippers or a dremmel -- and they bear it well
because there are cookies involved. It is a simple process to change the
dog's perspective about nail trimming -- just reward for the small steps
(for example, touching a nail) and build up to actually trimming the nails.

Or here is another strategy -- I have been trimming the nails of our puppies
and that is a piece of cake. Vickey -- just tell Major that even babies let
their nails be trimmed -- add shame to his public humiliation ;)

Mary-Ann Bowman
Utah
Emma, Abra, Maize and the adorable ten-pack (five weeks tomorrow :)