[SlimDevices: Beta] Windows installer question

2008-09-06 Thread gharris999

This is for Michael, I guess:

Is there a cmd line arg that can be used with the nightly exe files to
allow unattended (no prompts) update over an existing SC?

Something like:

SqueezeCenter-7.2-23055.exe -q

??

Also, how would one get the SC version from within a plugin?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] r23010 change from ABR to VBR in Mp3 transcoding

2008-09-06 Thread JJZolx

CatBus;337204 Wrote: 
> Honestly not sure myself, but I can hypothesize.  The whole point of MP3
> transcoding is to better accomodate limited bandwidth, or more typically
> a highly variable bandwidth.

There are also other scenarios.  One is streaming to your workplace,
where you don't want to hog too much of your company's incoming
bandwidth (or raise flags with the IT staff).  Another is if you pay a
metered price for bandwidth.  In either scenario, you may want to set a
bitrate well below the maximum sustainable by the connection.

> In a simple "dedicated player with a flaky wireless connection"
> scenario, if the minimum possible available bandwidth is X, then it
> makes sense that X should be the maximum possible bitrate.  But if you
> use vanilla ABR or VBR, you don't know what the maximum bitrate is, so
> you can't guarantee the stream will work.
> 
> So if you want to guarantee a certain amount of headroom, you have to
> use CBR or set a hard upper limit on the ABR or VBR, otherwise you may
> get odd bitrate spikes that may exceed the network's capacity.

ABR has worked surprisingly well.  Given the buffering on the receiving
end you can easily permit some (or many) frames to be encoded above the
set bitrate.

The thing with setting _any_ bitrate when trying to maximize the rate
to fit the given connection is that you just have to use trial and
error.  My home Comcast connection used to be 768 kbps outbound, yet I
was unable to stream reliably at 256kbps.  Maybe 1/2 the time it would
work that speed.  But it was too much trouble to keep changing it, so I
just left it at 192 kbps.

If this really was the concern (and ABR was failing for these reasons)
then the better solution would be to go back to using CBR, where the
quality will be better at a given bitrate due to the way the bit
reservoir is used in CBR (and ABR).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Buffer fullness in 7.3 - Flac vs. Mp3

2008-09-06 Thread JJZolx

Hadn't actually tried that.  I see the 50% CPU when I run my flac to mp3
transcoding script.  So I got as close as possible to the SC 7.3
conversion command.


Code:


  "C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe" -dcs "E:\flac\Allman Brothers\Eat a Peach\04 
Mountain Jam.flac" | "C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter 7.3 
Trunk\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\lame.exe" --silent -q 5 -v -B 256 - 
"C:\temp\04 Mountain Jam.mp3"



This is a 30+ minute track, so gives me a lot of time to watch what
happens.  The top capture is when run from the command line, the bottom
is what I see when SC is playing the track to the bitrate limited
player.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread timmorris

mherger;337536 Wrote: 
> > Not for me on 25031. When the page first loads it is fine. If I then
> 
> Bottom left you've got the JS error. Please double click it and tell us
> what's wrong.
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> Michael

Sorry, I meant to add it in to the last message but forgot. It's line
1112 on this page but I get various line numbers when I refresh it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Buffer fullness in 7.3 - Flac vs. Mp3

2008-09-06 Thread andyg

Err, what I meant to say was FLAC -> LAME :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Buffer fullness in 7.3 - Flac vs. Mp3

2008-09-06 Thread Andy Grundman

On Sep 7, 2008, at 12:01 AM, JJZolx wrote:

>
> awy;337354 Wrote:
>> Presumably you have specifically configured the conversions so that  
>> the
>> SB2 gets FLAC->MP3 transcoding.
>
> Right, via bitrate limiting for the player.
>
>> If you come up with any more information or insights it would be  
>> useful.
>
> I think Andy hit it - looks like it was LAME speed.  I'd had the LAME
> quality level set very high.  If I set it lower and play a long track,
> the buffer eventually fills up.  Still, it takes a lot longer than I'd
> expect.  The odd thing is that the LAME process never gets above 5%  
> CPU
> utilization, whereas if I run LAME from the command line, it will  
> peg a
> CPU (a hyperthreaded CPU on a P4 in this case).

The exact same LAME -> FLAC command line on the same file?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Buffer fullness in 7.3 - Flac vs. Mp3

2008-09-06 Thread JJZolx

awy;337354 Wrote: 
> Presumably you have specifically configured the conversions so that the
> SB2 gets FLAC->MP3 transcoding.

Right, via bitrate limiting for the player.

> If you come up with any more information or insights it would be useful.

I think Andy hit it - looks like it was LAME speed.  I'd had the LAME
quality level set very high.  If I set it lower and play a long track,
the buffer eventually fills up.  Still, it takes a lot longer than I'd
expect.  The odd thing is that the LAME process never gets above 5% CPU
utilization, whereas if I run LAME from the command line, it will peg a
CPU (a hyperthreaded CPU on a P4 in this case).


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Alarm Clock, Alarm Clock

2008-09-06 Thread JJZolx

Anyone else seeing this in 7.3?

I _think_ it happened when I added a second alarm to this player (since
deleted, added again, deleted again, with no change in the display). 
It's like this for all players (no other players have alarms), but only
on the Alarm Clock page.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread dwilliams01

If you then click on the music library group to expand it I get this
error:

Same error, different place:


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread dwilliams01

With ie7 on Windows Vista sp1 I get:

After clicking the ie refresh with the music library option expanded
and none of the other ones expanded I get this error.  However, it
seems to take about 20 seconds or so to show up AFTER the "done" is
displayed in the lower left.

Line 255:


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread Michael Herger
> Not for me on 25031. When the page first loads it is fine. If I then

Bottom left you've got the JS error. Please double click it and tell us what's 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread bonze

Dammit - you're right.
But at least it's 'useable' first time in.

What version of IE are you using?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread timmorris

Not for me on 25031. When the page first loads it is fine. If I then
click the refresh button the menu collapses and I can't open it up. I
can restore functionality by clicking on the search icon and then on
the home link in the top left hand corner. Screen grabs attached. On
Windows Server 2003 all I see is the "broken" screen, and I can't do
anything to restore functionality. There seems to be about three
threads reporting the same issue.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Left side squashed

2008-09-06 Thread bonze

This seems to have been fixed with the latest 7.3 nightly. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.2 Firmware Confusion

2008-09-06 Thread Millwood

This issue has been reported by others as Bug 9411.

For what it's worth, updating via the card works.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Buffer fullness in 7.3 - Flac vs. Mp3

2008-09-06 Thread awy

Presumably you have specifically configured the conversions so that the
SB2 gets FLAC->MP3 transcoding. If you come up with any more
information or insights it would be useful.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Problem with SqueezeScrobbler?

2008-09-06 Thread James

OK, now I'm confused because the culprit appears to be:
[playlist, addtracks]

Only SqueezeScrobbler didn't subscribe to that...

James


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Problem with SqueezeScrobbler?

2008-09-06 Thread James

This looks like a bug in SqueezeCenter. SqueezeScrobbler is just
processing a command notification and doing this with it:

my $paramsRef = [$request->renderAsArray()];

So the original command appears to be badly created?
(It's one of these: 'play', 'pause', 'stop', 'power', 'mode')

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC 7.3 Web UI Oddities

2008-09-06 Thread timmorris

I'm still seeing the same problem as in pose 1 on vista, XP and 2003
with IE7. It's intermittent. I've cleared the IE and squeezecenter
caches.

Tim


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