Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
yes, it been a typo (the ARTISTSORDER thing) and yes, 1974 - ABBA - waterloo was used to simplify it's really: year: 1974 artist: abba albumartist: abba artistsort: abba (removed for after adding sc didn't show up abba in the artist library anymore) album: waterloo so the suggestion is to delete the albumartist-tag in any compilation files and leave it empty? how does sc recognize compilations? just from the compilation-tag = 1? and then those albums are listed behind the albums of the original artist? can anyone confirm (for i have to re-tag some 25.000 compilation-files)? thanks! -- frank1969 frank1969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66019 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
The compilation settings may also play into the behavior you're seeing. Under Settings Music library, you probably want: - Group compilation albums together - List albums by band If you don't have these settings, try them and see if it makes any difference before making any tag changes. Compilations are recognized in one of two ways: Either SC sees that there are different artists on different tracks in the same album, or by using the COMPILATION tag. The COMPILATION=1 tag shouldn't be necessary on compilations, though; it's mostly useful for non-compilations that have different artists (such as with guest artists) by setting COMPILATION=0 to keep SC from calling the album a compilation. You can verify how an album is categorized by browsing into the album in the web interface. You should see the track listing below, and above the tracks you should see the cover, album name, year, duration. If SC thinks it's a compilation, you'll also see 'Compilation: Yes'. I would make tagging changes to no more than a couple of albums until you've confirmed that the changes do what you wish. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66019 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Detecting new server version?
Version: 7.4 - r27832 @ Mon Jul 27 08:45:52 PDT 2009 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 586 Perl Version: 5.10.0 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread I see 7.4 is up to 27885 now. Some versions of Squeezebox Server would detect and download a new version, indicating one was available through the Control Panel - Advanced - Software Updates. I believe some even had a popup indicating a new version was ready. However I have not had a popup or indication that a new server version is ready since I installed this version. Should I be expecting one or do I download it manually? Thanks. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta, PQP1 - early beta), SBC (early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66054 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Detecting new server version?
However I have not had a popup or indication that a new server version is ready since I installed this version. Should I be expecting one or do I download it manually? Do you have updates enabled (Settings/advanced/updates or similar)? Anything in the server.log file? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Detecting new server version?
Advanced - Software Updates - Automatic check and Automatic download are both set. server.log is attached. It doesn't indicate anything about not being able to download. +---+ |Filename: server log.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7892| +---+ -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta, PQP1 - early beta), SBC (early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66054 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Detecting new server version?
Huh, well I stopped and restarted the server from the Control Panel and it instantly indicated an update was available, so it must have downloaded it and cached it but did not inform that it did. Now at Version: 7.4 - r27885 @ Wed Jul 29 04:02:19 PDT 2009 as expected. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta, PQP1 - early beta), SBC (early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66054 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
- List albums by band This is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with what gets listed; it onlt defines the display format. eg. album by artist becomes album by band. Where artist or band is replaced with Album Artist if there is one set for the album. ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
Compilations are recognized in one of two ways: Either SC sees that there are different artists on different tracks in the same album, or by using the COMPILATION tag. The COMPILATION=1 tag shouldn't be necessary on compilations, though; it's mostly useful for non-compilations that have different artists (such as with guest artists) by setting COMPILATION=0 to keep SC from calling the album a compilation. This is true. Albums that have differing artists are automatically picked up as being compilations, unless that is overridden by having an Album Artist tag. As Frank has an album artist present, the scanner doesn't see it as a compilation, but as an album by album artist. Two options: 1) Remove the album artist, and SC will show the album as a compilation automatically. This is perhaps the best course of action if you only use SqueezeCenter. If you also use other apps, you may want the album artist tag still though, to group all songs on the album together under that artist name (or Various Artists if it's a compilation, for example). In which case, 2) Add a compilation tag. This depends on the file/tag format. eg. for mp3 id3v2.3, you could use Mp3Tag to set ITUNESCOMPILATION=1 (which actually stores in a non-standard frame invented by Apple, called TCMP). Alternatively, add a custom tag called COMPILATION (most likely only used by SqueezeCenter). ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] Bug in now playing in controller with 7.4
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13121 Symptom you can not get track info on the playing track from the playlist in now playing, anyone else seeing this ? Server version is Version: 7.4 - r27832 @ Sun Jul 26 04:01:30 PDT 2009 Hostname: hal.home.lan IP: 192.168.1.5 HTTP Port: 9000 OS: Red Hat - EN - utf8 Platform: i686-linux Perl Version: 5.8.8 - i686-linux-thread-multi Total Players Recognized: 3 -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66062 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug in now playing in controller with 7.4
I see the same. Posted this as follow up to your bug report: I see the same, but not consistently. Sometimes I get to the track info, other times I see the same as you: some spinning an then the list again, in which you can't scroll. The home button works though. I think related: since this version I often get 'Connecting to server name', while in fact the controller is connected. In those cases, I see on the info screen 'not connected', but I can control my transporter with the controller! Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66062 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
[SlimDevices: Beta] SSODS audio scan module
Dear Flip Flip, After installing SSODS 3.20 (and uninstalling 3.19 first) I get the following error message: (see below) Could it be that audio:scan module 0.23 is still included in SSODS instead of 0.27?? thx. 0640: [09-07-29 22:54:26 ] ssctrl failed to start SqueezeCenter. 0639: 0638: 3. Run the .tar.gz version of Squeezebox Server which includes all required CPAN modules. 0637: 2. Update the module's package using apt-get, yum, etc. 0636: 1. Install the latest version of the module(s) using CPAN: sudo cpan Some::Module 0635: To fix this problem you have several options: 0634: 0633: Audio::Scan (loaded 0.23, need 0.26) 0632: The following CPAN modules were found but cannot work with Squeezebox Server: 0631: [09-07-29 22:54:18 ] ssctrl Command line = /volume1/SqueezeCenter/slimserver.pl --daemon --pidfile /volume1/SqueezeCenter/Cache/squeezecenter.pid --cachedir /volume1/SqueezeCenter/Cache --logdir /volume1/SqueezeCenter/Logs --prefsdir /volume1/SqueezeCenter/prefs --noupnp --user admin --group users 0630: [09-07-29 22:54:18 ] ssctrl Enabled work-around for bug #4615 (MySQL errmsg.txt). 0629: [09-07-29 22:54:18 ] ssctrl Enabled work-around for bug #4615 (MySQL errmsg.sys). 0628: [09-07-29 22:53:58 ] ssctrl Starting SqueezeCenter 7.4-27885. 0627: [09-07-29 22:53:50 ] ssctrl Starting SqueezeCenter 7.4-27885. -- luny SqueezeBox 3 Squeezebox Controller Synology DS107+, CIaudio VDA#8226;2 DAC VDC#8226;SB powersupply, Cambridge Audio 840A Monitor Audio GS20, Van Den Hul cabled luny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66063 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
well, thanks - I tried it all and it got worse (fourtunately I only tried it with some files to see, if they behave in another way than the others). First of all: They didn't and it didn't solve the problem, so I still don't see any changes choosing the artists, year...-order. What I tried: deleting the ALBUMARTIST-tag in compilations adding the ITUNESCOMPILATION = 0 for one artist-albums the ITUNESCOMPILATION = 1 is set on compilations in all my files. But now what it made it worse: For the ARTISTSORTORDER and ARTISTSORT tag didn't have any effect either I deleted them again. But - You remember ;) - after adding those tags, the artist (e.g. ABBA) wasn't listed in the artist section of the library anymore. This behaviour still continues AFTER deleting the tags and update-scan the database. BUT - what I recognized - using the SEARCH-function of the browser, they are shown but listed at the very end: e.g. Black Sabbath Elisa Gabbai ABBA So I guess, this function orders by ARTISTSORT (or ARTISTSORTORDER) and it lists first those who have the tag left empty, and then starts mit ABBA. And further on I guess this could correspond with a bug I filed, that the scanner doesn't re-move old entries from tag fields, so i guess, although the ARTISTSORT is left empty in my mp3, the database has still ABBA; or ABBA;blank. Can anyone test, if those behaviour could be reproduced so we/I could file a bug and get this solved? Thanks! Frank -- frank1969 frank1969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66019 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
well, thanks - I tried it all and it got worse (fourtunately I only tried it with some files to see, if they behave in another way than the others). I haven't been following the full thread, sorry. It's not clear to me what actual problem you are having now (It got worse isn't very descriptive!). Some things to bear in mind: You may need to do a full rescan, rather than a scan for new/changed files. Especially if: 1) You change compilation tags. 2) You change sort order tags. If you change artist sort tags, make sure you've changed ALL songs that have that artist name. The scanner is non-deterministic; if you have several songs with the same artist name, but different sort order tags, I'm not sure which sort order will be stored for that artist in the music library database. This is similar to issues reported in bug 10324. Are you really using a custom tag called ALBUMARTIST, or the id3v2.3 Band tag (aka TPE2 frame)? If you search for the artist to find an artist that isn't sorting correctly, and open that artist to view albums, and drill down into an album, or even into a song, what does it display in the album details and sort details? i.e. it will tell you if it thinks it's a compilation, and if it has found an album artist. Phil ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
frank1969;444230 Wrote: deleting the ALBUMARTIST-tag in compilations adding the ITUNESCOMPILATION = 0 for one artist-albums the ITUNESCOMPILATION = 1 is set on compilations in all my files. Obviously you're using Mp3tag, but you're making the same mistake as when you tried to use ARTISTSORTORDER. These are Mp3tag's _internal_ field names. They map to ID3v2 frames for MP3 files, but they do NOT map to anything in FLAC files. You're getting a literal ITUNESCOMPILATION field in your FLAC tags, not the desired COMPILATION field. (In Mp3tag open the Help, then go to Names and mapping of ID3v2/WMA/MP4 tag fields. You'll see the mapped field names, but note that they're only for ID3 and WMA. For FLAC files, use the actual field names.) So I guess, this function orders by ARTISTSORT (or ARTISTSORTORDER) and it lists first those who have the tag left empty, and then starts mit ABBA. No, that's not how it works at all. If you exclude an ARTISTSORT field then SqueezeCenter should simply use the value in the ARTIST field for sorting. Needless to say, for 'Abba', an ARTISTSORT containing 'Abba' should have no net effect. And further on I guess this could correspond with a bug I filed, that the scanner doesn't re-move old entries from tag fields, so i guess, although the ARTISTSORT is left empty in my mp3, the database has still ABBA; or ABBA;blank. The scanner will remove old data if your run a 'clear library' type rescan. Can anyone test, if those behaviour could be reproduced so we/I could file a bug and get this solved? I don't think you're seeing the results of any bugs. Are you running SC 7.3 or SC 7.4? SC 7.4 does have some scanning bugs, but it scans my library, tagged as I've been describing, with zero errors. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66019 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changing order by doesn't have any effect
You know what... You may be seeing an obscure bug, after all. I didn't think it manifested itself in the web interface, but maybe it does sometimes. When you have exactly _one_ artist in your library that has their own album(s), and then you also have compilation albums, sometimes the artist count is off by one and you only see the Various Artists in the artist list. The thing that makes it a really obscure bug is that virtually nobody has a library like that. Try adding an album by a different artist and see if Abba then shows up. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66019 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
