Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any chance of revisiting the Random Mix plugin?

2013-11-12 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > Does these kind of things matter now ? When it was a supported
> product
> > intended for massmarket ( or what logitech thought it was ) there was
> > some hesitation to include even more options and settings .
> 
> 7.8 is supposed to be the community branch. Feel free to come up with a 
> 
> patch :-).
> 
> But then one other big issue is, as JJZolx came to realise quickly,  
> performance. The plugin would require quite some work to make this
> happen  
> in an efficient way. One big problem with today's solution is that it
> only  
> checks the first genre of a track. But checking them all takes a massive
> 
> performance hit, as it requires a lot more DB requests.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Any perl workshops for people who can't code themself out of a paper bag
:-) not in my current skill set there is some years uphill if I started
now .

Ouch performance I get that . The NAS users may flay you , or if you use
the built in server in a Touch ( which IMO should be discretly removed
)

Then I go along using Erlands plugin as I have done before , my server
can handle them sort of ok ( I use fraction of his offered functionality
but I find his plugins usefull on occasion ).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any chance of revisiting the Random Mix plugin?

2013-11-12 Thread Mnyb

Inclusion list and exclusion list is the way to go ( IMHO ).

But have the inclusion list at the top and the exclusion at the bottom
if the user don't exclude anything it will works as it always has . Then
the risk of confusing some less technically minded users are much
smaller , if they do what they always done it will be bussiness as
usuall , they migth not even notice the new option.

Does these kind of things matter now ? When it was a supported product
intended for massmarket ( or what logitech thought it was ) there was
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any chance of revisiting the Random Mix plugin?

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

You can have more combinations of mutiple genre tags not only Xmas ,
soul/hip-hop blues/acoustic-blues or whatever you fancy , genre tagging
is mostly up to the confused user :)

I'll bet that there are folks with a party genre added to rock and pop
and elctronica tracks well suited for parties :)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Why many men with an equal number of trunpets?

2013-11-05 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > That worked , where is this cached ? web browser LMS somewhere , can
> i
> 
> cache.db (the URL) and imgproxy.db (the resized images).
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Yes deleted all of those and restarted LMS then elvis without caps also
showed his presence .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Why many men with an equal number of trunpets?

2013-11-05 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > That worked , where is this cached ? web browser LMS somewhere , can
> i
> 
> cache.db (the URL) and imgproxy.db (the resized images).
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Yes deleted all of those and restarted LMS then elvis without caps also
showed his presence .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Why many men with an equal number of trunpets?

2013-11-04 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > However the suggested "Elvis test" still fails
> > :9000/imageproxy/mai/artist/elvis/image.png until i change elvis to
> > Elvis :)
> 
> Huh? Seriously? Any other random artist (you don't own in your
> collection,  
> eg. "Levin Minnemann Rudess") would show the same limitation? Or use  
> /image_100x100 or some other random size to be sure you're not faced a 
> 
> cached failure?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

That worked , where is this cached ? web browser LMS somewhere , can i
flush it , or are you suposed to spell The King with capital E :)

(i'm not personally into elvis i think his very overrated btw)

Maybe i should start to try with the "wrong" spelling I could have got a
good cache




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Why many men with an equal number of trunpets?

2013-11-04 Thread Mnyb

Seems to finally work most artist gort pics 70-80% , lock-up could be a
little smarter , but it's probably down to some TEN issue distinguishing
variants on artists like different iterations of jazz bands for example
.

"Eric Bibb" works but not "Eric Bibb & Needed Time"

Artist A & Artist B ican fail except in vary famous cases " Mark
Knopfler and Emmylou Harris" works for example not other less known
combinations.

However the suggested "Elvis test" still fails
:9000/imageproxy/mai/artist/elvis/image.png until i change elvis to
Elvis :)

Funny enough it is not case sensitive on all artists ? I first thought
it was a because i have a Linux server but it's not consistent ?

So in some cases if missing artists picture it could just be a missing
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Why many men with an equal number of trunpets?

2013-11-04 Thread Mnyb

Ok 0.6.1 installed and now it's actually doing a scan for artist
pictures , it never attempted that before so something has improved .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artwork no longer updated for a changed album

2013-11-01 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > While adressing this issue cant we just *couch* fix the root cause
> ,that
> > make LMS to not pick up changed folder.jpg ? and forces people to do
> > workarounds jiggling time stamp and all .
> 
> Yes, it would be great if we had the resources to do this.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

OK is simply dont have the skill to see if something is easy or hard to
implement , the symptons are simple enough cause may be work intesive
and hard to fix ? and a some changes may need more testing to verify ?

It's usually the other way around (in my line of work ) complicated and
confusing fault symptoms with a simple root cause ,the process of
finding said simple root cause can ofcourse be tedius and not easy .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artwork no longer updated for a changed album

2013-11-01 Thread Mnyb

While adressing this issue cant we just *couch* fix the root cause ,that
make LMS to not pick up changed folder.jpg ? and forces people to do
workarounds jiggling time stamp and all .

I'm not a programmer (which is painfuly obvius ).

And imo even if I add all my albums one at the time I should end with
exactly the same dB as if scanned all off them in one go ? should I run
and hide if suggest things like this :)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artwork changes lead to ..: No artwork!

2013-10-14 Thread Mnyb

audiomuze wrote: 
> I had a similar issue last night - changed time stamps on all tracks for
> which I had no artwork, added folder.jpg to the subdir and then ran a
> rescan - artwork wasn't picked up.
> 
> I know the time stamp change works because I've had edits picked up
> where the tagger is configured to preserve time stamps and a plugin is
> used to add 2 secs to last mod time.

I may have worked if you embedded the art afaik LMS is still not looking
at the folder.jpg file on "rescan for changes" you may have better luck
deleting the whole album ad adding it again ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Artwork changes lead to ..: No artwork!

2013-10-13 Thread Mnyb

How do you handle the modification time stamps ? Some prefer to preserve
them to not muck up the new music list ( which really should hinge on
when added to the dB or creation time ).

If you are browsing with iPeng you may have to flush its own cache with
enough new and changed scan's accumulated .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 Nightlies - any chance of some changelogs?

2013-10-09 Thread Mnyb

the git html preview is often endlessly loading for me and never shows
?

I usually sneak peaks at the commits , even if it's aimed at devs the
text is intelligible enough for non coding humans to read :) and code is
commented to if you get curious enough 

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/public/7.8




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Local artwork works randomly and often not at all in the WEB-GUI ?

2013-09-20 Thread Mnyb

...And a complete rescan fixes everything ? as usual now why is that
always so :)




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[SlimDevices: Beta] Local artwork works randomly and often not at all in the WEB-GUI ?

2013-09-20 Thread Mnyb

Local artwork works randomly and often not at all ? Meaning endless
spinny that covers the page . sometimes it works if i reload the page
and go back to the album again a couple of times .

I even seem the web-UI shift player and go into the amazon plugin the
background on some occasions ?

Nothing in the log ?

I found a workaround If i first click the cover art on the top of the
left pane (now playing) then it works if a later chose local artwork ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Self reducing playlist in 7.8 ?

2013-09-09 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > :) he he , i just delete the whole pl and start over instead ,
> > appearently i's magic is going on the background even if all the
> tracks
> > it added are deleted
> 
> That's correct. You'd have to stop it from doing its things using the  
> SmartMix menu. But as you'll start playing a single track it'll happen 
> 
> again...
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

that is normally not a problem , i want it this way .

In this case i decided to listen to something else and just added stuff
manually ( a whole bunch of albums ) after smartmix had done it's thing
.

There may be some reason for change anyway , must smartmix be so fast
starting .
I can imagine building a new playlist ,then you start with one track ,
if smartmix could just wait until the track neared its end instead
imidietly kick into action , then there would be possible to build
playlist even when the "never stop the music function" is active  .
I like that function so much that it is on all the time .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Self reducing playlist in 7.8 ?

2013-09-09 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > Can this be an interaction with the smartmix plugin ? I started of
> with
> 
> Yes. If you've enabled the "never stop the music" option, then it'll
> start  
> doing its magic once you're down to three tracks in your queue. And part
> 
> of its actions is removing tracks from the "history".
> 
> > one track, smartmix filed up the playlist after that , I decided i
> > wanted something else so I added a bunch of albums then deleted the
> > smartmix added tracks from the list ?
> 
> Playing one single track definitely is a challenge in this setup...
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

:) he he , i just delete the whole pl and start over instead ,
appearently i's magic is going on the background even if all the tracks
it added are deleted




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[SlimDevices: Beta] Self reducing playlist in 7.8 ?

2013-09-09 Thread Mnyb

Yes , the now playing playlist is disappearing from the top down ,it
keeps the 3 last played songs ?

Cue up a bunch of albums and start playing . I think the pl should be of
some size before you see this .

Using my boom .

Can this be an interaction with the smartmix plugin ? I started of with
one track, smartmix filed up the playlist after that , I decided i
wanted something else so I added a bunch of albums then deleted the
smartmix added tracks from the list ?

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1377698405 @ Sun Sep 1 00:00:27
PDT 2013
Hostname: nostromo.home.lan
IP: 192.168.1.50
HTTP Port: 9000
OS: Red Hat - EN - utf8
Platform: i686-linux
Perl Version: 5.10.1 - i386-linux-thread-multi
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2013-09-07 Thread Mnyb

Wirrunna wrote: 
> After changing the Title of a few albums during a recent "pedantic tag
> attack" I ran a New and Changed scan and to my surprise the artwork
> moved with the new title in the now lightning fast New Music display.
> 
> Only reference I can find is -"Make sure /imageproxy is absolute in the
> web UI." in https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/public/7.8
> 
> In the past I am sure that changing the Album Title and running a New
> and Changed scan would result in albums losing their artwork until a
> Clear & Rescan was run.
> 
> Am I correct in thanking Michael for nailing yet another long standing
> bug ?

Interesting would the opposite be true to changing to art on an existing
album ? Either only changing the art or do a minuscule tag change at the
same time .

There are different scenarios ,embedded art or a separe jpg file . The
embedded art is more likely to be picked up if it's changed , but afaik
we have been told in the pat the LMS " new and changed scan " does not
actually look at the separate jpg files only the actual music files ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] BMF performance tweaks

2013-08-14 Thread Mnyb

Going into an artist folder with many albums are still definitely
sluggish compared to using the database .

Bizarley enough iPeng seems faster than the web-UI ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] BMF performance tweaks

2013-08-14 Thread Mnyb

Some QD testing .

WEB UI 50 items per page .

server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux (dual core atom
something 1Gb of ram )

BMF "my music" instantly pulls up the approximate 40 base folders .

Clicks one of those, the largest one with 667 sub-folders loads in 15,7
seconds .

Albums load in 1 or sometimes 3 seconds , no clue to why some loads
slower no corelation to the amount of files insides tried albums with 3
to 20 songs .

If i go to the 667 sub-folder folder again it opens in 2 seconds .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] BMF performance tweaks

2013-08-13 Thread Mnyb

Sorry wrong setting on my language , dang :) . I thinks that was some
kind of iPad spelling .

But the number on items per page in the web-UI affects all menus
including BMF so if I set it to show 200 items per page will this make
BMF even slower ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] BMF performance tweaks

2013-08-13 Thread Mnyb

"
A little background to better understand the trade-offs: our UIs work
in
pages. The web UI shouws (roughly) 50 items per page "

this is a setting I've noticed that setting this very high like 500
slows things down , any thougth omn a reasonable use case ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 size

2013-04-12 Thread Mnyb

Now i checked it .

The old 7.6.1 betas are about 46.7Mb the 7.8 betas are 93Mb



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 size

2013-04-08 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> Rather than firmwares it's the increasing numbers of perl versions for
> which we provide binaries (5.8/10/12/14). And yes, the latest is still
> missing.
> 
> What do you compare with when you say double the size?

I'll check when i get home , some 7.6 version i think . I save a copy of
every package i used the latest 1-2 years ,but i have confidence enough
to have dumped the oldest betas (for a while i had everyone of them
since 2008 ) :) For my use I'm happy with the 7.8 versions .



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[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 size

2013-04-08 Thread Mnyb

Just out of curiosity why is the rpm nightly double the size it used to
be ? I have no problems with that it still small .

Not that I mind if you suddenly decided to pack all fw with it or
something else :)

But just to let you know if this change is unintended ?

Btw do stuff all fw including Touch and radio in the download imo .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS-7.8.0-1363340458 ist starting VERY slow

2013-04-06 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> Thanks again, Michael, for I use only 5 3rd Party-pligins (3 by erland,
> 1 by Andy, 1 by You) I could identify the "stopper" - it really is the
> "UPnP/DNLA Media Interface" by Andy...
> After deactivating this only, -464 is starting in 2 minutes again!

+1 great find :) I've had this disabled since 7.6 no wonder I've not
noticed , just see to that you don't scan pictures or movies either .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS-7.8.0-1363340458 ist starting VERY slow

2013-04-06 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> Thanks Michael, I'll try.
> Sry, for cross-posting, I thought it got something to do with the new
> image cache. Hope You know I usually NOT do this kind of thing!

With risk of being completely silly , have you tried the usual " horse
medicine " to nuke the whole dB and start over , including the cache
cleaning ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS-7.8.0-1363340458 ist starting VERY slow

2013-03-29 Thread Mnyb

Do you use any of erlands plugins ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 - missing servr restart dialog popup

2013-03-28 Thread Mnyb

Linux, there are too many variants ! :)  on CC.4.2 it could never
restart even from the terminal only start and stop worked not restart .
This was never actually solved ,but I upgraded away from it to ClearOS 6
beta.

Sligth diferences in startup scripts and how user and gruops are handled
may give these kind of issues :confused:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 - missing servr restart dialog popup

2013-03-25 Thread Mnyb

SlimChances wrote: 
> I have also had this problem since updating to 7.8
> I use Ubuntu and from Terminal "sudo service logitechmediaserver
> restart" seems to work

Aha maybe the squeezeboxserver or logitechmedia server user (what ever
is created on your platform ) dont have the rigths to do this just as
Mherger sugested.

As you use "sudo" mean that you to put in your password to .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 - missing servr restart dialog popup

2013-03-24 Thread Mnyb

castalla wrote: 
> No effect - I get a popup saying to restart - but the usual restart
> popup never appears.  
> 
> The main gui page has an info icon saying a restart is required.  No way
> to restart from the gui.

Do you see it if you go to the plugins page in settings I have to ge
there to see it . But pressing on the "restart is required" link should
open the plugins page in another tab and there you should have the pop
up ?

Is the browser prevented to open more tabs or something like that ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2013-03-15 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> I know, this might be only a temporary thing and I didn't even recognize
> what the changes are about exactly.
> But just to see some NIGHTLY updates at is was brings back hope in using
> my Squeezebox for a long time.
> Thanks to Michael and Andy!

+1 And even a visit into the bugzilla :) nothing particular was fixed
but some dupes got fixed status.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2013-03-04 Thread Mnyb

7.8.0 - 1362073842

runs fine



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2013-02-28 Thread Mnyb

I there any version beyond 7.8.0 - 1353679004

the build server seesm to build the same version over again , should i
just archive this one and call it final ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ClearOS 6.2 rc1 need some help (ne ClarkConnect )

2013-01-27 Thread Mnyb

And it works , no problems at all .

It also was a release candidate so maybe it includes time hirez .

In general you don't have to build perl code you can instal the missing
parts via yum or CPAN . And LMS tells wich parts it misses .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ClearOS 6.2 rc1 need some help (ne ClarkConnect )

2013-01-27 Thread Mnyb

Shellness wrote: 
> I am looking to upgrade from ClearOS 5.1 to 6.X.  Do I infer from the
> comments above that ClearOS is not supported and that I need to run
> buildme (I can't find a list of supported platforms)?
> 
> Please excuse my ignorance but is this simple (i.e. how do I run buildme
> - a yum install)?  Are there any other concerns with installing SBS on
> ClearOS 6.X?
> 
> Many thanks.

The only thing I did was installing that extra perl code I never had to
build anything I just used the yum system to install it .


Code:

yum install perl-Time-HiRes




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-12-24 Thread Mnyb

Finchy wrote: 
> I've updated the LMS firmware to 7.8 now, but it's not updating my Touch
> (which is still 7.7.2-r9663). Should it auto update?
> 
> 

It will get an auto update eventually it is not included in the
installer LMS gets them from logitech server after a while , you can try
to restart the server to see if it gets you there faster



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-24 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > Any hint if it ever will be another rpm build ?
> 
> There will. The machine is suffering from a simple out-of-diskspace  
> problem :-)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks I be watching out for it .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-23 Thread Mnyb

Any hint if it ever will be another rpm build ?

I won't expect them on nigthly basis anymore please consider doing them
if  you backport something or change anything .

A random release now and then would by nice gesture , that would be
appreciated :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-22 Thread Mnyb

..and OSX c'mon where is the rpm ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-22 Thread Mnyb

What I mean is the last version of 7.8 beta .

The distinction between released versions and beta versions have lost
their meaning in the squeeezebox concept a long time ago ;) just pick
the version that works out for you .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-19 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx wrote: 
> Is there any good reason to be worrying about LMS nightlies any more?

Good question , I think andy checked in a very minor thing lately an
actual change yes .

I do not check this on daily basis as I used to do , we can have a
monthly release with some of the trickle down changes from UE that may
end up in LMS to :-/

Somewhere there will be a last version



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Latest nightly is windows only ?

2012-10-19 Thread Mnyb

Latest nightly is windows only ?

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/520ec9c/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changed playlists not recognized by scanner

2012-09-24 Thread Mnyb

Which Scan ? Scan playlists ,new and changed or clear and rescan
everything ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-09-17 Thread Mnyb

DejanM wrote: 
> Can somebody tell me whether this issue is going to be addressed in LMS
> V7.8 ?
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96186-Server-won-t-play-broadcast-wavs-with-date-metadata

Is there a bug registered yet ? It regards the use of the date tag ( try
the year tag instead as workaround ).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-09-08 Thread Mnyb

batka wrote: 
> Hi!
> 
> I have a question about about the LMS version versus firmware version,
> whether they should match or not?
> 
> I have a Touch, and installed the LMS 7.8.0 Nightly build:
> Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1346674706 @ Tue Sep 4 04:23:05
> MDT 2012
> 
> Then I have noticed, the Touch firmware is not the latest, I have:
> Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
> Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663
> 
> So the firmware seems to match for 7.7.2 version.
> 
> I checked the firmware download page:
> http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/
> As I know the Touch firmware is called fab4xxx.bin.
> According to it, the Touch should have fab4.bin 7.8.0 r16739.
> 
> Checked the LMS RPM itself, this LMS build (at least the RedHat RPM
> version) does not have the Touch firmware in
> "\usr\share\squeezeboxserver\Firmware\". , but no fab4.bin file in this
> LMS RPM.
> 
> Is this difference intentional?
> So should I update the Touch firmware separately? Or it has a reason why
> fab4 firmwarre is excluded from the Nightly build?
> 
> Thanks in advance!

touch or radio firmware are never in the nighly builds ( and has never
been ) they are downloaded later from logitechs server to your updates
folder if you have such player .But if you have previously turned of
upgrades you will never get it .
I have lately been offered an upgrade to both my Touch on my running
install so they are regularly pushed .
server and player fw are not always upgraded at the same time . Note
that Touch fw includes a version of the server so it is actually bigger
in size than the actual server , that's maybe a reason for why
Radio,Touch and Controller fw is downloaded later but only if you
actually have one .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] what to do with bugs now? business as usual at bugzilla?

2012-09-02 Thread Mnyb

I still think some limited biugfixing is possible if it coincide with
functionality that is shared with the UE version , or a service that is
common with UE and mysqueezebox.com .

Shared functionality may be parts of the scanner code, but not the sort
modes that won't be used on the UE interface .

Let's se if they open a bug category for UE ? Who knows .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightly Builds change log appretiated

2012-09-02 Thread Mnyb

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/public/7.8

https://github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/commits/public/7.8

As you see ijn the dropdowns ,you can change and look at the 10 version
to (or any other version)

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/public/7.8/Changelog7.html
but that one is not updated in 4 months ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Final releases ?

2012-09-01 Thread Mnyb

erland wrote: 
> I don't think anybody knows at the moment, not even those working within
> Logitech.
> 
> From what I've understood they plan to do some LMS related stuff in the
> near future now when UE Smart Radio has been released, the UE Smart
> Radio is likely what has kept them busy, silent and inactive in the
> community during last months. 
> 
> So my suggestion would be that you keep track of where things are
> committed in the near future, that will give you the best clue if we
> will get:
> - A LMS 10.0.1
> - A LMS 7.7.3
> - A LMS 7.8
> 
> There is also a chance that we will only get a nightly build and no
> official release. 
> My personal guess would be that an official release LMS release is only
> made if a new Windows or OSX operating system breaks the last official
> release completely. 
> 
> From what I've seen so far, the 10.0 (UE Music Library) version seems to
> have startup scripts for both LMS and UE Music Library, where a lot of
> stuff has been disabled in the UE Music Library start script, I'm
> guessing this might mean that in theory Logitech would be able to build
> a "LMS" or "UE Music Library for Squeezebox" based on the UE Music
> Library branch and just compile the Windows exe's to use the LMS start
> script in this version.

Sound reasonable ,but you have to ask sometimes , and even silence is an
answer ;) which concur with your pow that not even the logitech folk
knows..

Even if work has been slow there are some improvements in 7.8 a pity if
not went official , but i'll wait if they commit some more time and do
away some of the remaining bugs , as it EOL they donÂ’t have to be
inventive just fix issues with the expected functionality .
And some fixes may actually be needed in UE 10.0.1 for example fixing
the track-art vs album-art issue or any scanner related bug will also
benefit 10.0.1 this is plausible if they want a "simple product" scanner
not crashing is an even more critical issue .

And the Radio has never had any fw beyond 7.7.2 this is most unlikely to
change i think ? as it is not user salvageable if it went wrong , Touch
or controller can be saved with SD-card or USB stick .

I have quite a lot of nightly RPM builds backed up . I'll almost always
run nightly builds , but there is not much point if debugging input or
other user input is not wanted any more , but i like 7.8 and would be
happy to see a stabilised debugged version as the last official release
:)
I know that some web-UI centric users with an affection for perfect tags
and dB skills prefer 7.5.x series more consistent presentation , there
was after all a whole zoo of unresolved bugs in the web-UI presentation
introduced by "onebrowser" .



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Final releases ?

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb

Will there be a 7.8 release at all ? including firmwares ?

And further will there ever be an 7.8 version of radio firmware ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Which nightly was the last one to require a database update

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> Could someone tell me, which nightly was the last one to require a
> database update, so that it forced a "initial re-scan"? 
> 
> I want to update my NAS but I want to avoid a rescan for it lasts some
> days - and last time it failed for it ran out of memory (300k songs).
> 
> Thanks!

>From what version ? what are you running now ?



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Touch never remembers it's now playing screensaver after off/on cycle

2012-08-08 Thread Mnyb

I usually have the cover art showing when playing music .

But after the players has been off or unused for a while ,I always have
manually cycle trough the aviable np screens to get the one I want is
this really normal ?

I usually uses iPeng to select music ( or web-UI ) when Touch comes out
of it's off state it then goes to now playing but almost never in the
state I chosed last I used it ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Browse New Music in LMS 7.8 is incredibly slow

2012-07-08 Thread Mnyb

I've fond that having the web-UI showing 500 items ( instead of the
default 50 ) makes  most menus slower



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightly Builds change log appretiated

2012-07-01 Thread Mnyb

- For 7.8: https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/7.8
- For 7.7.x: https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commits/7.7



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-06-26 Thread Mnyb

atz6975 wrote: 
> manual synching seems to beat the purpose of synchronized play... are
> you serious?

Those settings serves a purpose , if the delay is always and constantly
the same, you only have to adjust it once .

Also ther is cases when sync can't work without the help of this. For
example many HT receivers with some digital DRC and eq etc , the
processing will introduce a delay that can not be known to the server
unless you set it yourself .

There is some delay trough my processor and digital speakers that I
adjusted for .

But that can be more finicky than you migth like , from where should it
sync ,you need to listen equidistant to all sources than also go to each
room and judge how fluttery it sounds and make a compromise judged from
where you listen mostly .

Even if the sound comes out at the exact same moment in two players does
guarantee subjectively good sync in all locations sound is not very
fast, if you are extremely close to one player and crank up the volume
on the one farthest away how does that sound to you ?

But a reasonable compromise can often be found, it's often ok on not to
crazy volumes so that the closest player dominates the sound and the
other are synced enough to not interfere in an irritating way .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No permission to download nightly builds?

2012-06-14 Thread Mnyb

I reported this bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17964 6
votes un assigned.

2012-05-20 ? And it's probably just a setting and takes someone  30
seconds to figure out ? tells a bit to much about how well read bugzilla
is nowadays by Logitech ?

Or they don't want beta testers for some builds ?



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Groundhog day in 7.8 repo ?

2012-06-09 Thread Mnyb

The nightly build process seems to run smoothly for once , so new builds
are churned out now and then .

But what is it building ? As far as I can see for weeks/months on ends
it building 1337855496 all over ?

Is it that absolutely nothing has been developed in weeks/months ? Git
does not provide non programers with any good insights ? It is a bit
fractured and hard to follow.

And why does it build when nothing is changed ? It gives the impression
of activity when there is none ?

If out if ideas, fix a bug or two . If we accept that Most of bugzilla
is dupes bogus or misplaced support cases to a factor 10/1
You would still have 100's of real issues.

The number of bugs is a bit misleading it includes fixed and invalid
and duplicate bugs ,we don't have 17900 unfixed bugs :) then LMS would
be classified as electronic warfare .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Not receiving bugzilla email

2012-06-04 Thread Mnyb

..and now when the bugmail is up again ? should we bump bugs added
the last 4 weeks or so ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Not receiving bugzilla email

2012-06-03 Thread Mnyb

+1 bump .

Do the devs getting any mail , the activity of responding to bug reports
have seized to exist to ? At the same time.

You of purse file at bug for it :P but as it is bugzilla itself that is
broken it migth be futile ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] one-minute-long hangs when searching...

2012-06-03 Thread Mnyb

The obvuis Q have done a complete clear and rescan in a while ?



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Mystical WOL glitch

2012-05-26 Thread Mnyb

This morning my boom sounded the backup alarm ? And failed to WOL my
server .

When I pressed power on the boom just minutes later it had no problem
waking the server ??

So WOL is working but for some reason boom did not do it before the
alarm ?

And another old issue reoccured, the server just booted out of the blue
in the middle of the night ? I turned it off again and it stayed off ?
This do happens infrequently but not very often maybe a couple of times
a year .

But the WOL/alarm issue is new in my setup !

I suspects it fixes itself if I reset the alarms from the server I have
turned alarms on and of via the booms front panel when I've gone on my
latest work trips.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2012-05-23 Thread Mnyb

Updated the bug report it is *.tgz and *.bin files that are not possible
to download



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2012-05-20 Thread Mnyb

tungdil wrote: 
> Hello!
> 
> being new in this forum I am not sure this is the right place for asking
> this question, nonetheless: since a few days I am trying to download the
> unix tarball without CPAN libraries of LMS 7.8 but without success. The
> server responds with something like:
> 
> Forbidden
> 
> You don't have permission to access
> /nightly/7.8/sc/1ffe300/logitechmediaserver-7.8.0-1336646625-noCPAN.tgz
> on this server.
> Apache Server at downloads-origin.slimdevices.com Port 80
> 
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? Actually I didn't have this type of problem
> before, only for LMS 7.73 and 7.8. The reason for asking is that I'd
> like to see if version 7.8 will run on a Buffalo linkstation. For those
> who are interested. I am currently running:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14 06:40:27 MDT 2012
  > on: SSOXX (SSODS 4.x, generic Linux) - DE - utf8

> > 
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> tungdil


I made a bug report for the issue .

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17964

None of the tarballs *.tgz will download



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bugs in "Look for new and changed"

2012-05-19 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx wrote: 
> Are you using iTunes integration?

Not me not using iTunes for music, but is not iTunes integration
completely broken re changed files at the moment ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bugs in "Look for new and changed"

2012-05-19 Thread Mnyb

I've seen similar things over the years ( extra albums etc ).

I think some of it are pure bugs and some of it are down to the
mechanism used to detect changes .
And I think some cleaning up inmthe dB does not work properly either ?

I think LMS mainly uses the timestamp, but some of us including me try
to not change timestamps while tagging to nut bungle the new music list
.

Then I *think* LMS tries to determine if the file size have changed, but
some files have padding in the tags areas so that if you change the tag
the file size do not change at all .

A large enough change may be detected ?

Some have written scripts that move the date a couple of seconds to get
this to work better .

I think I'll vote on the bug  , you can surely find even more cases then
you have described .
So a catch all bug for better detection of changes is good .

But how to improve if neither date or file size have changed ?

I have one idea to go forward if LMS can detect that at least one file
in an album have changed, discard all data on that album and rescan all
the files in the album including cover art file .

If the user have a reasonable organisation of the music LMS could even
detect if anything in the folder with the album have 
changed size or something else ?

Can the host OS provide info on file activity ? I'll bet Linux or osx
can , so at least a simple mechanism for these OS can be designed ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Confusion with release nr.

2012-05-12 Thread Mnyb

Upgraded just fine ?

So the rpm build is functional .

But where is a humanly readable change log ? Like the one we had before
with version numbers and links to the changed stuff ? Like the viewVC
repository listing ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any work on LMS 7.8 anymore?

2012-05-11 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> @mherger:
> 
> I've made an amazing test concerning the bug:
> 
> I got an old album with 14 tracks in my database.
> 
> Now I got a new edition with NEW artwork and 30 tracks on it!
> 
> So I DELETED the old folder includinge the old album and added the WHOLE
> NEW album...
> 
> After an update scan I see:
> The FIRST 14 tracks with OLD (deleted!) artwork - when I "browse them"
> (click on the album) there is the default album,
> 
> tracks 15 - 30 with new artwork as "new album" with same title, same
> date, same... everything as the old one ...
> 
> Hope that helps!

This IS very similar to what always seen since way back .

My amateur interpretation is that there are stale entries in the
database and also stale images in the image database file .
And that LMS thinks some of the new files are the old files for some
reason .

I f you do like this :

1. First remove the whole album completely -then- do a "scan for new and
changed" is it still there , or is the album completely gone ?

2. If it's gone add the new version of the album an do another "scan for
new and changed"


Re long scan times, you don't have to be there and watch the scan for 5
hours do it while at work or sleeping ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Confusion with release nr.

2012-05-10 Thread Mnyb

In this view

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/1ffe300/

All builds this new weird numeration ?

I install whatever it's called :) but would not rpm or yum ( Linux
package managers ) get very confused ?
Regarding revisions making me force installs ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Any work on LMS 7.8 anymore?

2012-05-09 Thread Mnyb

frank1969 wrote: 
> Not quite sure, Michael, I think it happened some weeks ago, might be
> 33930 oder 33932 - I'll try to test with an old copy when I do my next
> update.
> 
> Description:
> Before: MP3 files of one album in one folder - embedded artwork and
> folder.jpg in folder => artwork is shown
> 
> Change:
> Adding some tracks to the folder (with the same artwork embedded as the
> other ones, folder.jpg stays unchanged) - only change made to the
> existing tracks, is changing the track-tag from (eg. 01/10, 02/10... to
> 01/14, 02/14).
> All other tags are the same (album, albumartist ...)
> 
> Result:
> The "old" tracks are shown with the default grey "cover art work
> symbol",
> the "new" tracks are shown as a separate album (with the same name) and
> the correct cover art...

Thoughts .

You are aware of that embedded art have precedence over cover.jpg so as
long as there is an embedded art tag it wins it does not matter if you
have a file .

I would make a tag change on all album files ( new an old ) so that they
get the same time stamp .

I would make sure that there is no difference In tagging re new vs old
files , using mp3tag or puddle tag .

Make sure that I embed the same art in all files ( with the exception of
albums with track art, LMS handles track art very buggy , but that is
another bug )

Or you sure this a new behaviour , it is very similar to the many other
scenarios where you end up with double albums after a tag change and "
scan for new and changed " .
This usually fixes itself after a " clear and rescan ".

I would say that " fixing " existing albums pretty much always gives you
weird entries in LMS like double albums .
Quite surprised that you have not seen this before ?

But it is a good one as you found a bug where new and old file separate
in two albums in some sort of predicable and reproducible  manner, maybe
it helps Michael to analyse this .

If they are still giving you separate albums/no artwork after a "clear
and rescan" I would suspect the tagging.
If this is only a problem after an incremental scan , I would say it is
LMS not entirely predictable " new and changed " scan.
"New" is mostly ok ,the " changed " part is somewhat random .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] WOL is broken in BOOM fw

2012-04-20 Thread Mnyb

Yes now i remember that to .

The new players do improve on some subtle stuff do .

Now on the wishlist for "Squeezeplay" based players , in multiserver
setup remember which server that sheduled an alarm and WOL the rigth one
.

should be nice to have a wol capable server again



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightly builds server stalled?

2012-04-20 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > Stalled again? I see new check-ins, but the nightly build doesn't
> > update...
> 
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.7 seems up to date to
> me.  
> What are you missing?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.8

is only on 33939 7.7.3 seems to be on ..45



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] WOL is broken in BOOM fw

2012-04-20 Thread Mnyb

factory reset was not needed this time it wol'ed the second time around
? but I sure do that if it continues .

this sugest that ip3k players are a bit slow in adapting to these
changes, may take severa conections disconects to a new server for it to
adapt .

This must a complete hit and miss if you have multiple servers ?

They partially solved the issue where it won't WOL if it's been on
mysqueezbox.com before , but leading to this effect I think ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] WOL is broken in BOOM fw

2012-04-19 Thread Mnyb

Moving about in the fw menu I saw that boom listed the option to
connectnto both my servers ?
That is weird as the old one is off, this option disappeared after I had
a look at the current settings ?

My preparation for this was to have the old server off and players using
the new server so they could relearn server mac



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[SlimDevices: Beta] WOL is broken in BOOM fw

2012-04-19 Thread Mnyb

Before I file a bug, is this known ?

Background , my NIC on my old mobo broke a year ago, so I haven t used
WOL for a while..

Now I'm fiddling with my new server, that has it wol working fine .

To be really sure I connected all my players to the new server and
played music for a while, the player should now be very aware of which
server it is supposed to WOL .

This worked like a charm for Touch and Radio but not for BOOM it was
supposed to wake the server for the alarm , that did not work, so I
pushed some other buttons to see if could trigger this no luck .

So how do I fix this ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ClearOS 6.2 rc1 need some help (ne ClarkConnect )

2012-04-19 Thread Mnyb

yum install perl-Time-HiRes was it ,and possibly perl-CGI .

Now it runs, finds players and scans complete without errors .

Note to self: cp does not preserve timestamps by default :-/ new music
is now a mess



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] ClearOS 6.2 rc1 need some help (ne ClarkConnect )

2012-04-19 Thread Mnyb

mherger wrote: 
> > If you're running some unsupported Linux/Unix platform, please use
> the
> > buildme.sh
> > script located here:
> >
> > http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.7/trunk/vendor/CPAN/
> 
> Ahm... did you follow that advice?
> 
> Alternatively you might run:
> 
> perl -MCPAN -e'install Time::HiRes'
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Plan is to try "yum install perl-Time-HiRes when i get home , or your
sugestion above and have installed perl-CGI already .

The build script looks complicated and it build's everything ? it is not
really self instructing on exactly how to use it how do you run the
script for example, should i download and place the script where ? do I
need to dl some source code and place it somewher
I go that way if I must (but then I need more detailed instructions )



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Yum repo is an antique unstable is 7.6.2

2012-04-19 Thread Mnyb

There is no 7.8 there either :-/ thanks anyway



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[SlimDevices: Beta] ClearOS 6.2 rc1 need some help (ne ClarkConnect )

2012-04-18 Thread Mnyb

I'm trying to replace my antique ClarkConnect4.2 with the new and Shiny
ClearOS6.1 rc1 but i get an error .

[root@nostromo /]# service squeezeboxserver start
Starting Squeezebox Server: The following modules failed to load:
Time::HiRes


***

NOTE:

If you're running some unsupported Linux/Unix platform, please use the
buildme.sh 
script located here:

http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.7/trunk/vendor/CPAN/

If 7.7 is outdated by the time you read this, Replace "7.7" with the
major version
You should never need to do this if you're on Windows or Mac OSX. If the
installers
don't work for you, ask for help and/or report a bug.

of Logitech Media Server you are running.

***


Exiting..
[  OK  ]
[root@nostromo /]# perl -v

This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for i386-linux-thread-multi



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Yum repo is an antique unstable is 7.6.2

2012-04-18 Thread Mnyb

yum eh squeezecenter

http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/

You get squeezecenter .

I'm installing a new server, that has yum my old server only has rpm ?

Suppose i use the rpm anyway..



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[SlimDevices: Beta] Touch backligth comes on if server disconects while player is off

2012-04-13 Thread Mnyb

I have the blank or black screen, screen saver on my Touches when they
are off
.

This works fine while the server is running, when Touch is off the
screens are
completely black .

But if just restart LMS the backligths come on .

it has been like this for a while >7.6 I'm now using latest 7.8
everything.

(I have noted that radio or Touch or not very likely to stick to chosen
screensavers nowadays ? anyway , maybe a related problem ).

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17949



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 player fw ?

2012-03-28 Thread Mnyb

We have all firmwares except for the radio ?

But radio is updated in 7.7.3 ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-28 Thread Mnyb

bonze;698037 Wrote: 
> So what's 7.7.3 ?

The bug fix beta, where back to the usual structure .

7.7.2 released version 

7.7.x (now 7.7.3) beta where relatively safe fixes are tested, and
usually a better option than the release .
This will eventually becomme the next minor release .

7.8 a more adventurous beta with new untested features, this can be
more unreliable (as for example yesterdays version 333903 that did not
work at all) not granatueed to actually work at all.
The aim is a future major release .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2012-03-27 Thread Mnyb

Yep 33905 is working fine here to, back to " normal " again :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2012-03-26 Thread Mnyb

This also makes the alarm silent on my boom, the bell symbol is flashing
and all but no sound not even the backup server mp3 or the internal 3
tone " close encounter.." sound


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.8 Nightlies

2012-03-26 Thread Mnyb

Yes indeed no playback at all on any of my Touch or Boom .

Being on the latest build 33903 .

So just don't install this yet..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 player fw ?

2012-03-26 Thread Mnyb

mherger;697530 Wrote: 
> > Yes no squeezeplay aka Radio,controller,Touch .
> >
> > Sometimes it is for a reason, but it can be down to how well things
> > that is supposed to be automatic really behaves ?
> 
> There's always a reason. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Today it's the 
> 
> simple fact that we haven't set up the nightly builds for the firmwares
> 
> yet :-). I'm not sure why we're holding back, but they should be there 
> 
> soon.
> 
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> Michael

Thanks , we soon discover if you held back for a good reasons :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 player fw ?

2012-03-26 Thread Mnyb

Yes no squeezeplay aka Radio,controller,Touch .

Sometimes it is for a reason, but it can be down to how well things
that is supposed to be automatic really behaves ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 scanner problem

2012-03-25 Thread Mnyb

Is it not a similar bug for the comment field in tags already ? There
might be a common issue ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7.2 rc1

2012-03-25 Thread Mnyb

Is it not a beta build of ready NAS next fw release available ? I think
that's how others have done it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Latest Debian 7.8 is broken

2012-03-25 Thread Mnyb

They do have a few of them.

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/

And

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/

I usually save a copy of the nightly for the build I use I have back to
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[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.8 player fw ?

2012-03-23 Thread Mnyb

There seems to be some action in the 7.8 /jive repo so there is
tinkering done in the player fw :)

But there is no fw available yet ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-22 Thread Mnyb

erland;697005 Wrote: 
> Do I understand it correctly, that people think support for multiple
> user profiles are pointless unless ratings also is supported ?
> So Logitech either need to do both ratings and user profiles or not do
> user profiles at all ?
> 
> Or is there some minimal implementation of user profiles that would
> make sense without having the ability to browse by ratings and even
> without ability to browse music library per user ?
> For me it feels like multiple user profiles could have some usage even
> if rating support aren't implemented.
> 
> As an example, would it makes sense to have multiple user profiles that
> only offered separate favorites per user
> 
> Favorites are pretty obvious, but are their other things that are
> really critical to make it worthwhile to implement support for multiple
> user profiles ?
> - Separate playlists per user
> - Separate LastFM accounts ?
> - Separate mysqueezebox.com accounts ?
> - Possibility to configure a sticky user per device ?
> - Separate library browse menus ?
> - Possibility to have common tracks that are available for multiple
> users ?
> 
> It feels like it's important to take this step by step and not wish for
> everything in a single release even if the vision/goal at the end is to
> have it all. The main reason is that if we only wish for everything
> there is a risk it's going to be considered too much work so it will be
> dropped completely because of other more important features, like
> support for new hardware and new streaming services, which also needs
> to be included in the release.

I think that a common use case is that family members simply have
different music files and taste altogether so by choosing your user you
switch everything .

Would not that simply be easier but the integrating things between
users the more demanding stuff .

I mean if user simply have their own cache and prefs folder locations,
would not multiple users be like (re)starting LMS with another set of
those . That would mean installing plugins for every user but also that
users could have different plugins .

Harder to do spawn LMS with different users at the same time ! on any
platform, multiple instance is not unknown but this usually involve
some knowledgeable trickery with bind addresses so that you can make
the  players see the difference .

if this is done select source on a player could be select user too .

Next big issue would be to stop family members from stealing each
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-19 Thread Mnyb

> reniera;696523



user profiles is in the roadmap for 8.0 if you believe the wiki , and
when 8.0 might be here is not exactly stated hopefully 2012


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-19 Thread Mnyb

They need to work with the NAS vendors so that more offer
Squeezeboxserver/LMS in their add ins .

upnp/dlna is simply not good enough .

In a dream world there would be a "super dlna standard" and every one
could just pick and match media players and UI front ends and servers
however they wanted and shop just any NAS .

The background problem is that streaming media and internet radio and
services is a bit imature  .

And strong actors like Apple are creating their own de-facto standards
and have large monopolies of their own .

Cell phones and sat-tv is more mature you can put in your sim card in
any phone and chose almost any operator ? and it works .

You don't need a special AT&T phone or special Nokia sim card .

But you do need a special reciva chip for thier offerings or vTuner or
mysqueezebox.com .

And all the the different service vendors want their own apps and
proprietary protocols .

I don't see a really simple and user friendly products as long as the
media situation is a mess .

And what about bying and downloading content to a media server outside
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-18 Thread Mnyb

mherger;696440 Wrote: 
> > When will we get 7.8 nightlies from
> > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/ ?
> 
> I'll take care of them soon. Not much interesting in there yet anyway.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Yea but it's a part of daily routine :) check the nightly if numbers
gone up install ( rinse and repeat ) But no rush we seems to be on a
variable update freq these days once or twice a week until somethings
substantial is committed then it can come a burst of daily updates (
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-18 Thread Mnyb

Well well yes the server should run all those programs to if you have
ps3's and networked blueray players so it's a given .
In that kind of context there is no way around a central server of some
kind .

This could be a powerfull NAS actually, sadly some poeple are using not
so powerfull NAS for this and are disappointed that it does not work as
expected

But to actually use LMS for it ? there are a bunch of more suited apps
for that .

I do think that the media part of LMS should be scrapped , there are
simply to many devices and odd requirements to cope with , LMS should
be specifically for Squeezeboxes the one thing it is good at not also
on the side be a me-too somewhat flawed video and picture server
draining dev resources , there are bugs about it and questions every
week and the devs use real time to track issues with smasung tv's or
whatnot instead of some basic omitted function for a squeezebox .

I think Erlands has piont re developing and function and then just
abandon it LMS has a pretty lame facebook function you just post 3
kinds of preformed posts thats it , not even write you own comment ?

It goes whitout a saying that either they scrap it or do something
better about it ?
How important is a blue logo with an F on the box ? that's basically
what it is about.

And should they really do facebook plugins with at the moment 17927
bugs most of them more important .

Btw is there an updated road-map about what 8.0 is about :)

with this new and positive agenda of hiring more devs , there must be a
long term plan I know that no one is going to tell about future devices
.

Historically big leaps in development has been accompanied by new
hardware .

But as the current hardware is good for so much more I feel that there
is a lot of room in Touch and Radio for more ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-17 Thread Mnyb

jean2;696233 Wrote: 
> You forgot one point. Having to support LMS on all those OSes, their
> various evolving versions and all those complex software configuration
> is a lot of work. Being able to target only a single well defined and
> well controlled appliance platform (i.e. TinyLMS) would simplify
> testing and support.
> 
> I don't see them dropping regular LMS in the medium term, as TinyLMS is
> not up to scratch currently.
> 
> Jean

There is a lot of things LMS does that not even doubling CPU and memory
would help with, when moores law give us Touch 3 , maybe :)

Don't forget the web-UI or the plugin architecture or the transcoding
framework for files and radio .

And relatively cheap yes, but they need a serverless player anyway
paying for the server several times in a multi room install make no
sense . I don't think you actually pay for a server in Touch, I
speculate that it was moores law again someone figured hmm just maybe
we can shoehorn in a crippled server here let's try

So a server free Touch 2 ( basically improved Touch ) and Touch 3 with
some more CPU grunt ?

Or actually a stand alone server , you would not call it " server", to
frightening a music base station of some kind ( is not that what Sonos
get away with ) no fan room for one 3TB 3,5" drive small, made in
cheerful designed plastic maybe in white.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-17 Thread Mnyb

The weird thing is that so much more could have been done ?
There are so many omissions of "normal" functionality in music playing
software ?

The framework is mildly complex may take a tiny effort to come trough ,
but then what ? If the reward was higher more would thinks it is
worthwhile to do .

I'm thrilled that I can have a playlist with spotify tracks bandcamp
tracks and my own tracks at the same time .

And actually thanks to Triode and Pippin look for similar artist on
spotify etc .

Being old shool liking my own files I mostly explore with services I
quickly tries to add interesting stuff as local files .

And biography and lyrics .

But a surprising lot of my favorite functions are third party :)
thankyou

But I would expect logitech to develop more music functions on thier
own ?

A football score screen-saver or wheather is hardly core functionality
, let third party set the agenda here .

But for example why must a plugin like playlist manager exist ? this is
core functions .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb

reniera;695877 Wrote: 
> I fully agree with your last statement.
> 
> But 142 is not problematic at all. Solution is to store info in hidden
> files in the media directories ( in addition of database). See how
> Picasa works with photos. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Workable yes but.

Some aluminium foil hat people prefer the directories read only .

A one album one folder approach ? Not all people do this .

And finally does picasa account for filename changes and file changes
aka tagging done by other software ?

Remember that the music file can change name and size and timestamp due
to external tagging operations and also location how would an external
file track that ?


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