Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb

As the dev resources are as limited as they are can't we just scrap the
video and picture support and upnp/dlna thing ?
To make this actually work properly you must commit even more resources
than you sunk into the whole project already ? This seems extremely
costly to me .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb

Here is the artwork issue
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17634 FYI


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lms 7.8?

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb

*Enhancement*  request 142 is a  problematic one for a reason I think.

As the server software is committed to a solution where it never ever
write to the files directly and this is very dear to many users. This
paradigm wins in this situation.

This will undoubtedly always lead to a situation where you loose all
ratings, Erland has gone to some lengths in his plugins with an
externally available trackstat backup . But this is for technical
reasons not safe either as there are circumstances where the file can't
be 100% identified . One way it works is by the extremely geeky music
brains id and some other means .

There are great ideas that could be implemented if the server did not
treat the dB as a temp a mere reflection of the tags .
But that would need a whole other level of programming where the dB
always could be recovered and translated between schema changes and not
needed to be " cache cleared" aka tossed away for every minor scanner
issue and it would need to hash every file during scan to create unique
identities but eventually for safety reason it would need to write an Id
to the file .

Then the dB could be augmented by all sorts of info and associated
functionality not only ratings that would only be the 1% of what would
be possible .
A greatly enhanced music exploring application that many wants.

but even this is a bit over the top for most users that are not
committed music nerds you must keep the file collection in order and
tagged.
There is a lot of pull in the other direction where people just want to
play a jumble of misshaped files by folder and file name and those users
already treats music as a disposable not a cherished collection.
This is eventually also outdone by all taut relies on a service to even
have files is a minority solution.

I would settle for if they actually fixed bugs in whatever
functionality they decided the server should have.
As it is now I'm irritated by the fact they do build functions that are
buggy and never fix them instead they develop next function that is also
buggy ad naseum . And it detoriates, old functionality brakes and is
never fixed they are not on top of the maintenance aspect of this .

And in many cases this does not lead to high vote counts a prime sample
is that album artist issue .
Other examples include where less tech savvy user usually think they
have done something wrong or never realise how it really should work .

Another example it has becoming popular by for example Bandcamp and
some other vendors to use separate track art in addition to album art .
This is great now every song has a different artwork and the album as a
whole one. this actually worked before 7.6 but is broken now the
presence of track art even brakes the functionality of album art and
this issue has all of 3 votes or similar.

So please please fix total lack of quality controll . Do a rudimentary
QC before every release have a functional spec and test every function
against that .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-07 Thread Mnyb

Yep r9627 arrived today


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-04 Thread Mnyb

Lets hope Andy or Michael sees this tread , it must have broken recently


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-04 Thread Mnyb

The problem may not be local to you it is likely something at thier end
?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-04 Thread Mnyb

There is a version file accompanying the bin file have a look at this
one maybe download that to.

There have been cases where version file and bin file have been
mismatched due to error on their servers ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-03 Thread Mnyb

Just wait and see if you don't get the update in the next days it migth
be something to worry about.

I have never actually monitored the success rate of this and how many
times LMS usually harass the server about it .

But I have had 9601 for a while now ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 update error

2012-03-03 Thread Mnyb

It failed to get you a new version of Touch firmware 7.7.2-9601 did it
eventually succeed 10 minutes later ?

Fab4 was some kind of internal project name for it just as radio is
baby and controller is jive .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 prevent Disc 'spin down'

2012-03-02 Thread Mnyb

gharris999;693618 Wrote: 
> Can you provide a link that backs up this claim? (..that there is no net
> energy or cost savings obtained by spinning down idle disks.)

Start and stop wears the disc it would last longer spinning, but if op
is home only 2 days a week the equation may still be in his favour .

So it's energy vs investing in a new drive and actually the energy used
to manufacture it ?

Wonder if a drive actually ever uses as much energy in it's whole life
than it took to build it ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Scannfor new and changed issue

2012-02-25 Thread Mnyb

Now we have a bug it's happened again .

No weird circumstances to blame this time .

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17904

Suddenly after being fine for weeks LMS scanner startrs crashing on
*.mp4 vidoes (or audiobooks ) note this file is always in the library
LMS do not like it but usually recover and continue the scan , but
after adding enough new stuff IE domne several new and changed scans,
it just stdon't work anymoore .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Serious problem with cue sheets ?

2012-02-20 Thread Mnyb

Any conection to bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17404

And the favourite problem with cue sheets ?
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=691537

Apparently adding a track from a cue sheet as favourite corrupts the
dB

This one is related but not the same bug
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17881


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Are favorites screwed up?

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

I tested sorting by album and artist,year,album and year,artist,album

Via the -album menu- ok for me.

But *if I go via the artist menu* it marks the wrong album !

sorting by album is ok.

But not year,artist,album then it marks the wrong album as favorite.

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33843 @ Thu Feb 16 03:11:18 MST
2012
Hostname: hal.home.lan
IP: 192.168.1.5
HTTP Port: 9000
OS: Red Hat - EN - utf8
Platform: i686-linux
Perl Version: 5.8.8 - i686-linux-thread-multi
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 3


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

It's ok now.

It fixed itself ?

I'm so happy that I work with normal electronics that behaves
deterministically .

Computer stuff sometimes breaks the laws of cause and effect....


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[SlimDevices: Beta] rpm-xfer.3EdG8V: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 4123722a

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

OK it fixed itself ?

I'm so happy that I work with normal electronics that behaves
deterministically  .

Computer stuff sometimes breaks the laws of cause and effect


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[SlimDevices: Beta] rpm-xfer.3EdG8V: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 4123722a

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

Whats this:


[root@hal ~]# rpm -Uvh
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/33843/logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-0.1.33843.noarch.rpm
Retrieving
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/33843/logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-0.1.33843.noarch.rpm
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID
4123722a
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V cannot be installed


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

Not possible to upgrade i get this:

Retrieving
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.7/sc/33843/logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-0.1.33843.noarch.rpm
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID
4123722a
error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.3EdG8V cannot be installed
[root@hal ~]#


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

But retrieving from my server seems stuck with the rpm ?

Must i clear something if aborted a rpm -Uvh


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-17 Thread Mnyb

mherger;691008 Wrote: 
> > Now 3 hours I better abort
> >
> > And not install whetever finally downloads ?
> 
> 2mins for the 120MB tarball on a 10Mb connection. Sounds reasonable to
> me.  
> Maybe an issue with your connection?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Now it works 2 minutes for me to now ? it was botched between 0740 and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-16 Thread Mnyb

Now 3 hours I better abort

And not install whetever finally downloads ?


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Attention updates server very slow possibly broken

2012-02-16 Thread Mnyb

Completely out of whack scheduled dl time for the nighly is > 2 hours
!!

:-/ I better go to the gym and after that a coffee , then the update
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] BMF scan corrupts dB replacing title with file name

2012-02-09 Thread Mnyb

Ok it is assigned an moves forward .

have the 2 of you had your "bug_meeting" yet :)

Sorry for the pun, maybe it is a good thing that even a small team
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[SlimDevices: Beta] BMF scan corrupts dB replacing title with file name

2012-02-07 Thread Mnyb

Se this bug

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17881

Sorry for crosspost but bug is pretty bad .

the only thing you have to do in latest 7.7.x is to browse the music
folder to corrupt the dB .

We where discussing in this thread.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93204

When we discovered the root cause.

So don't use "music folder" if the integrity of your db is of any
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 web control automatically changes player

2012-02-04 Thread Mnyb

virgiliomi;688594 Wrote: 
> I noticed this in build 33765, and it's continuing on 33808... when I'm
> in the web interface and I change to a different player, for some
> reason after 20-30 seconds, the player controls will change back to the
> first player that was selected. I've run into it a number of times (and
> it's kinda funny when you press Play and the music you expect to hear
> coming from the radio next to you starts playing in a room on the other
> side of the house)... but I've also had moments when it seems to work
> normally, and doesn't automatically change.

100% sure way to make it happen is to have the browser open while
updating the server .

Reload (F5) the server page or cleaning browser cache after a server
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-30 Thread Mnyb

erland;687393 Wrote: 
> Something which they can earn money on and something which makes
> Squeezebox more attractive to mass market users.
> 
> This probably either means new hardware or support for some new premium
> streaming services. Based on this I also think that except for bug
> fixing, we can probably expect the focus to either be on the player
> side (new hardware) or on the mysqueezebox.com side (support for new
> streaming services).
> 
> But this is just a guess, I might be completely wrong.
> 
> I don't think we should expect LMS to be turned into a complete media
> management system, too big investment and too little money to earn for
> them.

They truly need to up the pace they add services at, it's a very fast
moving market ( call it unstable ) so constanly adding services is
necessary just to not loose ground.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-30 Thread Mnyb

Re use tv , 1 have one and it's a projector my other 3 boxes are not
close to a TV. Setup a music streamer via TV ? Not for me.

I'm still curius to what they are up to :) Is LMs going t be a more
complete media managment system ? A new product ?

They have tried autoscanning of new stuff ( abandoned ) .

Automatic artwork downloading , abandoned due to lack of partner to
provide art .

Do I dare suggest the ( optional ) ability to fix tags ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-29 Thread Mnyb

verypsb;687022 Wrote: 
> Well, doesn't do Sonos devices without a display quite succesfully? I
> don't think the lack of the display is the problem, but the really
> awkward setup with the duet/receiver. Logitech should support setup
> from LMS/SN.

Or a buildt in web-page in the unit just like a router or 1000 of other
devices you hook up.

But none of this solve the basic problem . To reached by LMS /SN it
must already be setup at least the ethernet/wifi part .

Ehternet is easy you just plug it in and it gets assigned ip via dhcp
.

But to type in a wifi password you must type on something and see what
you are typing .

You could ofcourse set it up by first connect it via ethernet and then
type in you wifi settings .

And the whole mysqueezebox.com account speil could be performed on a
webpage after you do that.

But it is simpler to type rigth on the device.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-27 Thread Mnyb

erland;686862 Wrote: 
> While I agree on the quality assurance part I don't agree on that we
> need more technical improvements. 
> 
> In my system, scanning is like less than 1% of the total usage time and
> more than 99% is spend on listening to the music. I'd like improvements
> related to those 99% instead of putting all focus on something the
> system do less than 1% of the time.
> 
> Also, in my setup, when I get a new CD I spend at least 10 minutes of
> ripping and tagging, often more if the CD isn't already available with
> metadata on Musicbrainz, after this I spend a few minutes maximum to
> scan it into the library. It would help me a lot more if I got
> improvements of the ripping/tagging part instead of the scanning part
> as the ripping and tagging usually takes more time.
> 
> Of course, many people today doesn't purchase CD's they get their music
> as an electronic download or through a streaming service. In the case of
> streaming service, which is probably quite common, scanning isn't even
> involved at all. In the case of electronic download I'm fairly sure you
> rarely get scanning problems because those files aren't corrupt or
> encoded in incompatible ways.
> 
> So my wish would be to focus on the stuff that matters, basically,
> focus on stuff which is relevant when you listen to music instead of
> focus on something that takes up 1% of the total usage time.

Yes if the 1% worked wo trouble for everyone I'm with you, make it "
thar scanner shall not crash " and then move on :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-27 Thread Mnyb

Great , excellent :)

Scale up as in functionality previusly not seen in lms ?

Return of old functionality , missing menus and custumisation options
that dissapeared with " one browser " ?

The bugs what about them ?

I'll gues I have to stay curius for a while, very curius :)

I have some design wishes.

Make the scanning better in about a 100 different ways.

It's must be so good that end users do not notice other than the time
spent at the initial scan, this should be the only full scan ever
needed. Adding incrementally over the years should give you the exact
identical dB as scanning the whole lot agian with the exceptions of the
added dates .

Do not force rescans with updates build software that migrates old dB
to new dB .

Store all information it's a dB rigth, do not rescan because some
setting change for the UI on how to include or present artist or
anything like that. It's for the aplication itself to fix this not the
dB.

Done not crash the scanner, note " flawed " files in the scanner logs
in human readable form with a fault description that makes sense to end
users to ( of course keep the current info on where in the code it went
wrong ) .
After not crashing it goes on building a dB with files it can read, so
the user always end up with a usable system .

Do not interupt music playback when scanning ! Ever .

Make it yet again possible to BMF while scanning.

db should be avaible gradually so that you could start using lms while
the dB is still being built.


Upgrades ? Keep mysqueezebox.com backwards compatible at least 2 major
realeses . Users that do not upgrade can ofcourse not use new services
or functionality or bugfixes.

Scanning and upgrades is many users main complains about the software,
they are afraid of upgrades because they anticipate scanning problems
to ? And the smattering of new bugs with each version.

If you got in favor again with more resources get your quality controll
up and running again :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS moving forward?

2012-01-27 Thread Mnyb

Also M Herger said he was on vacation ?

Have they killed off svn.slimdevices.com it seems to be down you used
to be able to follow dev there ?

gharris link was interesting sugesting all kinds of addition you never
see logged svn.slimdevices hmm :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Scannfor new and changed issue

2012-01-26 Thread Mnyb

As expected it went fine to add another album today .

Now the scan contiuned past the error for the video file without
crashing .

Seems like the dB slowly corrupts and after a couple of weeks a full
rescan would straighten it up ?

How do i report such bug , very tedious to fault-trace or reproduce.

Stupid me did not copy the dB files before the total rescan :-/


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Scannfor new and changed issue

2012-01-25 Thread Mnyb

had some weird one lately .

Have been using the 7.7.2 beta since before xmas and been adding music
continiusly.

" new and changed " had usually worked fine .

But not yeasterday ?

It did scan added the files, but then died before updating the server
so it was thinking it was scanning forever ?

The last famous words was error cant read tags for bla bla , in some
case some m4b audiobooks that i had for years and they never made any
trouble before.

And in one case a mp4 video ! Now I have not ticked in video for my
music library so it should be ignored and further ir run the server
with --novideo .

A clear and rescan everything works fine .

I will add more music later today and do a scan for  "new and changed "
and see howmit goes .

This sugest that something is unstable with dB or scanner , if I can
add music to a " fresh " dB but not one thats been in use .

I did some changes due to an album with wierd modification dates I
fixed those and rescanned then lms started to act up ?


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Winter vacation ?

2012-01-07 Thread Mnyb

...Probably well earned if so (I've been gone for 14 days myself,
immensely refreshing if you live where it's cold and dark in wintertime
).

But there is not much of updates in svn or the nighlys for a long time
now ??

Soo...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] CDN system still broken where is 9561 for Touch

2011-12-19 Thread Mnyb

not worried but in other treads there is some confusion on whats really
the official fw for 7.7.1

If you let a file slip it is a reasonable asumption that 2/3 if this
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] CDN system still broken where is 9561 for Touch

2011-12-19 Thread Mnyb

mherger;678091 Wrote: 
> > Me and other users have version 9561 on our Touch, but if you check
> with
> > either mysb.com or the download site you can only find 9558 for the
> > Touch ?
> > Why is that ?
> 
> We let 9561 slip before 7.7.1 was released. Our fault, but not a big  
> issue. You're on 7.7.2 by now anyway, aren't you? This could only
> happen  
> to people who were running pre-release software.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

yeah but it happened when I was on 7.7.1 and further the 7.7.2 repo
only offers 9558 too.
my updates directory has 9558 for my Touch except for the controller
where 9561 is in ?
yeah I'm on 7.7.2 now .


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[SlimDevices: Beta] CDN system still broken where is 9561 for Touch

2011-12-19 Thread Mnyb

Me and other users have version 9561 on our Touch, but if you check with
either mysb.com or the download site you can only find 9558 for the
Touch ?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Make mysb.com creds a part of the LMS setup

2011-12-18 Thread Mnyb

Fahzz;677705 Wrote: 
> I did the uninstall, as you suggested.
> When I try to play Pandora on my Boom through My Music (which is SBS?),
> I get an error message that says I need an  account, and I already have
> one. When I Play Pandora  on the duet it switches to My Squeeze Box and
> then plays.
> In Pandora settings I have it enabled on all players,

Hmm the other mysb.com based menus do they work ? Can you local server
really connect to mysqueezebox.com ? is this only pandora , you set up
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Make mysb.com creds a part of the LMS setup

2011-12-17 Thread Mnyb

erland;677416 Wrote: 
> I think it might only be shown during new installations.
> Maybe the users with problems have previously run a 6.5 release and
> then upgraded to 7.x and due to this never executed the setup wizard of
> 7.x ?
> 
> I'm not sure if the setup wizard in 6.5 and earlier contained the
> mysqueezebox.com registration step, it might have, I'm just not sure
> about it. I know it has been there at least since 7.4 or something
> similar but it might have been there earlier than that too.
> 
> Just to be clear, I don't think it's in the installer, it's in the
> setup wizard which is executed after the installation where you specify
> music folder and similar stuff.

yes i'm talking new installs or where you wipe everything, then the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Make mysb.com creds a part of the LMS setup

2011-12-17 Thread Mnyb

erland;677409 Wrote: 
> Isn't this the case already ?
> 
> The first question I've always got from SBS/LMS installer when I've
> installed SBS/LMS is to enter my mysqueezebox.com credentials, or push
> the "skip" button that is in the same dialog if I remember correctly.

whas a while since I installed from scratch :-/ hmm . I must agian
underestimate the perversity of users , so people skip this part and
come back later to wonder why they have to switch to mysqueezebox.com
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[SlimDevices: Beta] Make mysb.com creds a part of the LMS setup

2011-12-17 Thread Mnyb

Why, far to many people are switching mysqueezebox.com <> local server
for no good reason they are just not aware of the possibility to run
all things mysb.com via the already running local server.
( mysqueezebox.com tab).

If this where a part of the setup wizard it would be done, it should
ofcourse have a prominent skip button for people without any
inclination to use it via mysb.com.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7.2 is stuck

2011-12-16 Thread Mnyb

verypsb;677253 Wrote: 
> I notice this too on my Windows 7 x64 8Gb LMS server. It happens when
> skipping songs or searching, but not consistent... If you wait long
> enough, it comes back alive.

Something must interupt LMS ? I don't see this effect on my puny single
core 1gb 1,2gHz server.
Seen similar effects with older beta version when the database was in
really bad shape.
Or is it external storage that is a problem, it makes scan slow but
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightlies 7.7.1 for windows

2011-12-13 Thread Mnyb

tamanaco;676554 Wrote: 
> Hey!... I'm still around, but I've been a little too busy, lately, to
> keep up with the community on a daily basis. Feel free to assign my Win
> Watcher role to anyone. I should have a little more time to keep an eye
> on the builds after next week. Not many builds lately... anyway.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightlies 7.7.1 for windows

2011-12-11 Thread Mnyb

good morning, where is tamanaco when needed he reminded you of the win
build every day for several years :) looks like the jobb goes to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Bug 17530 reappeared

2011-12-10 Thread Mnyb

You are probably not alone but the combo Linux and iTunes playlists is
not the most common use case :-/ hopefully they fix before launch of
7.7.1 on monday .

Regular playlist are not affected .

Hopefully other readynas owners chime in make noise in the bug report ,
do provide the locale for the NAS in the bug report .

Just type "locale" in a command prompt via ssh and copy the content .

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightlies 7.7.1 for windows

2011-12-10 Thread Mnyb

...but you are rigth the win build have broken before the other builds.
This time.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Nightlies 7.7.1 for windows

2011-12-10 Thread Mnyb

It's saturday , so wont be untilll monday , it is not as automatic as
they want it to be.
i think the process needs some init by a human and possibly also some
baby sitting untill it completes :-/

Afaik all builds are at 33745 .

When they where more people they did more changes per day and someone
found the time to build.

It seems to be a couple of times a per week now instead of every nigth
.

do they wait untill the changes made justify the effort to build ? How
tiny change justify the time and effort ?

another way to be on top would be to download the source via svn
directly, but i prefer a packet installer to manage the install so that
things can be purged and unistalled the normal way and all dependencies
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7.1 rc1

2011-12-04 Thread Mnyb

The "compilation albums under artist" issue can it be fixed
I could not find the bug number ? for it

This post illustrates why the current system is nuts.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7.1 rc1

2011-12-02 Thread Mnyb

Some people have problems with rating tags

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92015


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Squeezeplay - DNS lookup for server

2011-12-02 Thread Mnyb

kllngtme;674210 Wrote: 
> Where does one get the source code in order to provide a patch for this?

http://svn.slimdevices.com/jive/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New feature "Automatically detect changes" in 7.6.2 is missing in 7.7.0

2011-11-30 Thread Mnyb

murkle;673638 Wrote: 
> Really annoyed this was removed. It worked perfectly on my Debian based
> SBS machine. I just enabled this preference and the feature doesn't
> work, so it looks like the code has been removed also..

What version it might not work at all in 7.7.x what about 7.6.2 ?

They made quite a lot of scanner changes and when this feature was of
so obviulsy not accounted for ? wonder if they ever plan on bringin it
back .

Rescans can at least be initiated from:

ip3k players (SB2/3 TP and boom )

And iPeng or SqueezePad .

And the web-UI of course .

For completely unexplainable reason bugs that requested the ability to
start a scan from the player (just like an sb3 or Boom) has been turned
down with wontfix on Touch and Radio no explanation offered why it is
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7.1 rc1

2011-11-29 Thread Mnyb

Paltomare gets this very specific fault msg.

Over in this tread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91706
he has problemsmcreating a bugzilla acount.
He gets this for every version above 7.5.x

[11-11-27 12:58:23.5835] main::main (200) Starting Logitech Media
Server scanner (v7.7.0, r33626, Tue Nov 1 14:23:14 EDT 2011) perl
5.014002
[11-11-27 12:58:27.2737] Slim::Schema::init (162) Warning: Creating new
database - empty, outdated or invalid database found
[11-11-27 12:58:28.7046] Slim::Music::Import::runImporter (478)
Starting Slim::Media::MediaFolderScan scan
[11-11-27 12:58:28.7070] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (171)
Discovering audio files in /storage/music/flac/Mp3-[No_CD]
[11-11-27 13:00:53.5447] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (254)
Removing deleted audio files (0)
[11-11-27 13:00:53.5461] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (332)
Scanning new audio files (51949)
[11-11-27 13:00:55.0280] main::main (340) Error: Failed when running
main scan: [Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in
m/^(?:cover|folder|album|thumb|* <-- HERE .jpg)\./ at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/Slim/Music/Artwork.pm line 136.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New feature "Automatically detect changes" in 7.6.2 is missing in 7.7.0

2011-11-25 Thread Mnyb

bhaagensen;672556 Wrote: 
> Is the code still in the tree? Can automatic rescanning be re-enabled if
> one insists on doing so? How?

The prefs for it are still in the server.prefs file even if the UI is
hidden

"
autorescan: 0
autorescan_stat_interval: 10
"

Code might still be there ? try at your own risk.

Stop LMS before editing a prefs file directly .LMS reads the file at
next start.

This migth not work any good at all .

I would only attempt this if I only use the music functionality no
video or pictures .

And never on a windows system , autorescan was never working properly
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[SlimDevices: Beta] SqueezePlay Linux builds

2011-11-24 Thread Mnyb

Why no Linux SqueezePlay builds anymore ? This is very old news but
there used to be a deb installer a couple of versions back ( long ago
). Are not the build system automatic ? ( no extra work ).

This is so old that I vaguely remeber asking this before and I forgot
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Post 7.7.0

2011-11-22 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx;672025 Wrote: 
> Is there any consideration being given to dropping 7.7 and going back to
> 7.6?
> 
> The Revue is dead and Logitech now has zero need for a DLNA server (if
> there ever was one). Remove the complications and all of the new
> scanning bugs introduced in 7.7 and go back to something that worked
> better. Merge any 7.7  bug fixes. Why maintain features that are no
> longer called for?

+1 keep choosen parts of 7.7.1 that worked .

With limited resources you can't work on video scanning bugs anymore ?
It starts to be bugs in bugzilla about certain players and tv's that
don,t work with lms.
Given that the so called dlna "standard" is what it is, this is endless
work there will always be something that don't play nice with lms a
total waste of time for the devs.

And then we have the comlete jungle of different video standards
defacto standards and weird formats that is used anyway ? there seems
to be no tagging or losely agreed metadata . so the database aproach as
it is realised for music can not easilly be aplied for video, let it be
someone elses headache :)

If you want to use your squeezebox music to a dlna player there is the
whitebear third party app that integrates with sbs/lms and is well
tested and seems to work ( acording to it's dev and userbase ).

And for video and picture content you can simply run another server
software ( you can do that for music too ), I'll bet that mediatomb or
any other dlna server have much more dev resources than logitechs
squeezebox team wich seems to be needed if you want to be on top on
that game.

Developing for a limited set of players with known properties seems
"easy" if you compare ;)
Having controll of both ends you can do what you want.

If logitech are trying the revive squeezebox again use the resources
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-11-19 Thread Mnyb

Yes :) a German speaking person would find large chunks of any nordic
language (dk,no,se,icelandic) vaguely familiar and the oposite is also
true .

In text it is easier, spoken language differ much more.

with google and a lexicon at hand I can struggle trough some german
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Plugin update notifaction , but which one ?

2011-11-17 Thread Mnyb

Millwood;670834 Wrote: 
> I reported this in 2009 - and no action yet so don't hold your breath
> :-)
> 
> I turned off automatic, as others suggest.
> 
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14164

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Plugin update notifaction , but which one ?

2011-11-16 Thread Mnyb

I will try your advice to , but updates are frequent and I'm prone to
forget..

But a qualified guess as I'm running 7.7.1 .

*it's erland fighting to get his plugins to behave in 7.7.1 :) good.

*and Triode trying to get libspotify to work on whatever the weird cpu
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Plugin update notifaction , but which one ?

2011-11-16 Thread Mnyb

paulster;670711 Wrote: 
> If it tells you that it's updated something and you need to reboot then
> that isn't really what I'd call automatic.  Automatic to me would be
> quietly doing it when the server was idle or overnight, for instance.
> 
> If you have it just checking for updates and not applying them then
> you'll still know that there are plugins to be updated and you simply
> tick the ones you want to update and then it reboots.
> 
> So it's only a tiny bit more manual than how it works in automatic
> mode, and gives you the functionality you're looking for, i.e. letting
> you decide when to reboot based on which plugins need an update.

it only wants to restart the LMS/SBS application the server itself is
still running so it is semi automatic restart of the application is not
the same as rebooting the whole server .

In small steps :) id did not mention the obvius that some plugin
upgrades should be done to a running server without restart. Some
plugins are tangled in the dB and scanning and may need a restart to be
"realigned" with whatever the server is up to.

Worst case is that it is drawback of using perl and old versions cant
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Plugin update notifaction , but which one ?

2011-11-16 Thread Mnyb

I do like the automatic update of plugins .

You are saying that it don't really work anyway ?


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Plugin update notifaction , but which one ?

2011-11-16 Thread Mnyb

A small feature enhancements , you get notified that a plugin have
updated itself and the server wants to restart .

Can LMS prompt which plugin that is updated , so that you can decide if
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Unreliable screensavers on Touch & Radio

2011-11-12 Thread Mnyb

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Unreliable screensavers on Touch & Radio

2011-11-12 Thread Mnyb

my Touch behaves my radio is more random .

but in reality I use only clock on black background when not playing
and now playing with the big cover ir style when playing.

i rarely use the off state ( I opted for black screen ).

this survives server reboots fine .

but then agian I use my iPad all the time not touching the players
anymore, so they toggle between these two states and have probably
fallen in to some semi stable loop.

I think kaos is present in the bizarre state machines running on both
server and player to keep everything in check ;) Are programmers
thinking in these terms any system with feedback can get in to caotic
behavior where semingly simple functions amplify each other into a mess
?

the old players where stupid they have no choice but to be as the
server comanded, squeezplay is semi independend I bet things can be
unpredicable depending on exactly what it is doing when the server
want
something.

Ok I pile my vote on top , this migth iritate certain users not good
for the product line, I'm personally not that miffed it does not tick
my ocd gene ( like some other bugs ) .
i can imagine less technical persons being disturbed and being
uncomfortable when " things " have a life of thier own .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Big (literally) bad error in LMS 7.7

2011-11-07 Thread Mnyb

You are probably spot on on safe guards :)

I'm starting to suspect that the win installer asumes some basic
librarys by default like " my music" " my videos " etc .

and actually I can imagine a hobby photograper to actually have this
much photo albums for real, so a big but well organised library could
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Big (literally) bad error in LMS 7.7

2011-11-07 Thread Mnyb

stupid Q is he running 7.7 .

if he unticks the picture and video checkboxes for his music library
and leave it to music only ?

othervise I can imagine each music album being scanned as a " photo
album " .

I think one should interpret the separate folder setup in LMS to that
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Image browser broken ?

2011-11-05 Thread Mnyb

Works in chrome but not firefox .

Cleared cache no difference

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

Now what :) the whole bug 17674 seems solved to me ? for all types of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Image browser broken ?

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

is this a js error.

Error: setting a property that has only a getter
Source File: http://192.168.1.5:9000/html/js-browse.html?r=33655
Line: 2452

A gazillion warnings 

Warning: Unknown pseudo-class or pseudo-element 'first'.
Source File: http://192.168.1.5:9000/?moreThanThis=1
Line: 0

Warning: Missing closing ')' in negation pseudo-class ':'.  Ruleset
ignored due to bad selector.
Source File:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/skin/logiskin_header_footer.css
Line: 150

Warning: Expected color but found 'light-grey'.  Error in parsing value
for 'background-color'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://192.168.1.5:9000/slimserver.css?r=33655
Line: 1428

Warning: Unknown property 'zoom'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File:
http://192.168.1.5:9000/html/ext/resources/css/ext-browse.css?r=33655
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[SlimDevices: Beta] Image browser broken ?

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

Is something supposed to happen when I press a thump image in the web-UI
? should not a larger version pop up somewhere ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

mherger;667432 Wrote: 
> > How ever waiting for the unnecessary forced complete scan of my 2
> music
> > dirs just for adding a picture dir :-/ that contains nothing yet
> and
> > the same will happen when I add a video dir :-/ this is nuts, aargh
> 
> That's why there is an abort link.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

yeah but it does not change the fact that I will eventually have to do
a complete scan after adding these two directories, not jus a new and
changed :-/

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

mherger;667381 Wrote: 
> > I must uninstall all Erlands plugins , curiously enough they did
> > protect against segfaults, but maybe not anymore since he fixed them
> to
> > work better with LMS7.7 (all issues regarding bug 17639 is gone for
> his
> > plugins they probably remain for MIP and iTunes ).
> 
> I think his plugins and MIP trigger the same external scan instead of 
> 
> internal. Which seems to have been working fine already.
> 
> I fear there's some cleanup not being done in Media::Scan, causing the 
> 
> crash only on subsequent scans. The first run seems to be fine in most
> of  
> the cases.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Doing some test right now, must also add some music to scan ( with
Erlands plugins enabled ), it looks promising for the minor case of not
defined pic or video directory .
So as long as you don't have any picture or video directories defined
it' s not necessary to use --noimage and --novideo as start arguments,
and the (dlna server is probably not involved at all .)

So a squeezebox only user is safe as long as no picture or video
directories are defined, nothing else to fiddle with.

How ever waiting for the unnecessary forced complete scan of my 2 music
dirs just for adding a picture dir :-/ that contains nothing yet and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-11-04 Thread Mnyb

mherger;667369 Wrote: 
> >> erland have a look at bug 17674 and see if it looks familiar to you,
> I
> >> have 2 music folders . That bug was something elsemto begin with,
> but
> >> has developed via 33624 to be very similar to what you describe
> here.
> >> try this start LMS with --noimage --novideo
> >>
> > Sounds exactly as the issues I'm seeing in my setup, works perfectly
> if
> > I add --noimage --novideo as startup parameters.
> 
> I've submitted a change to 7.7.1 which should improve this behaviour. 
> 
> Please give it a try. r33655
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

maybe I'll try tonight (I'm at work sshh, wasting my employers time )

I must uninstall all Erlands plugins , curiously enough they did
protect against segfaults, but maybe not anymore since he fixed them to
work better with LMS7.7 (all issues regarding bug 17639 is gone for his
plugins they probably remain for MIP and iTunes ).
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] After 7.7 ... What's next?

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

Philip Meyer;667015 Wrote: 
> Better artwork handling would get my vote.  Per-track artwork (esp. to
> cover the case of multiple singles belonging to "No Album"), and
> choosing a priority order for artwork scanning.  i.e. I'd like to have
> low-quality embedded artwork for other apps (eg. iTunes), but for LMS
> to pick up higher quality cover artwork from Cover.jpg (I think
> embedded artwork takes priority at the moment?).

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17634

And

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17635

Assigned to Andy :) vote .

Now I have even more such music , a great deal of the artist on
Bandcamp uses per track artwork.
per track artwork works but has the two bugs mentioned here.
IPeng does not support per track art yet in all views...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] After 7.7 ... What's next?

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx;667012 Wrote: 
> Thinking about it again, this wouldn't really be any faster than a new &
> changed scan. In both cases the scanner needs to find every file and
> look up each one in the database to see whether or not it already
> exists. A new & changed scan just checks date and size, so the only
> thing you'd save would be the date and file size comparisons.

is is that way on linux to ? Is not the ionode functionality such that
you can ask the OS for this.
That was why autodetect worked quite good on some linux systems .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] After 7.7 ... What's next?

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

and some improved playlist managing capability combined with some MIP/
Genius like feature by default.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] After 7.7 ... What's next?

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

Why not a "new music" scan the "new and changed" uses 3 minutes looking
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Hello, anyone working on LMS anymore

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

And , now there are changes logged agian :) so 7.7.1b is avaible.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Hello, anyone working on LMS anymore

2011-11-02 Thread Mnyb

erland;666770 Wrote: 
> 1. Goto http://bugs.slimdevices.com
> 2. Click "Search" link at the top
> 3. Select "7.7.1" in the "Target" list box to the right
> 4. Select in the "Status" list box which statuses you like to see, if
> none or all is selected it means that it doesn't filter by status.
> 5. Click "Search" button at the bottom of the screen

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Hello, anyone working on LMS anymore

2011-11-01 Thread Mnyb

erland;666762 Wrote: 
> Assuming we can trust bugzilla.
> 
> Issues scheduled for 7.7.1:
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=7.7.1
> 
> Issues which are scheduled for 7.7.x (some will likely be moved into
> 7.7.1 and some will be released in a later release):
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;target_milestone=7.7.x
> 
> Some new big features are usually a secret until they are suddenly
> released. One example of this is MOG support which has been mentioned
> earlier in the thread.
> 
> Voting on issues in bugzilla is a way to indicate that you find
> something important.
> 
> But as mentioned earlier in the thread, the likely focus of 7.7.1 is to
> solve all critical issues which are 
> found in 7.7.0 by end users.

Discouraging that niether 17674 or 17639 is in 7.7.1 the scanning is
actually not working :-/ without some workarounds.

maybe MOG will be finished by next 7.7 release ? It seames to be some
bugs needing to be fixed there.

How do you do these nice searches in bugzilla, I've never figured the
advanced search functionality.
Especially search against a release version like the 7.7.1 search you
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Hello, anyone working on LMS anymore

2011-11-01 Thread Mnyb

Is that not a windows issue that i can take ages to erase some old temp
folis during upgrade ?

Leave it for 20 minutes if it still stuck then I would try to abort.

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[SlimDevices: Beta] Hello, anyone working on LMS anymore

2011-10-31 Thread Mnyb

Is anyone actually working on 7.7 anymore ? , there has been no real
adition since 33624 5 days ago ?

And the release version sits there ready to go, but no 7.7.1 branch yet
?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-31 Thread Mnyb

Can someone reopen bug 17639 against LMS7.7 .

The issues is not limited to third party plugins iTunes and MusicIP
seems be involved to if one uses them.
Or any plugin that registers an importer.

"
The issue is probably related to if there is any plugin that calls:
Slim::Music::Import->addImporter
Slim::Music::Import->useImporter
"

I was not aware of how MIP and iTunes integration worked, when I set
the bug as invalid :-/
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-31 Thread Mnyb

erland;666437 Wrote: 
> Has anyone tried "new/changed" rescan with RC6 with multiple music
> folders configured ?
> 
> It crashes with segmentation faults more or less every time when I've
> multiple music folders configured in my environment. I've tried with
> different folders and it's the same issue so I don't think it's related
> to the actual music files, especially since it works when doing a full
> rescan.
> 
> I've no third party plugins installed and I'm running the RC6 version
> 33614 using a svn checkout. However, the same problem also exists in
> 7.7 trunk.
> 
> Works perfectly with a single music folder but crashes with multiple
> music folders.
> 
> The scanner state is also remembered, so when the server is started
> after the crash it indicates that scanning is in progress even though
> it's obviously not doing anything (at least that how it feels). I can
> abort it manually and then perform a rescan (which will crash if it's a
> new/changed rescan).
> 
> Maybe it's something with Linux ?
> I'm using a svn installation on Ubuntu with perl 5.8.8
> 
> The server.log looks as follows
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.1993] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (171) 
Discovering audio files in /mnt/mp3music_small/aac
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.2048] Slim::Music::Import::nextScanTask (702) remaining 
scans in queue:()
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.2698] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::AIO::__ANON__ (80) 
AIO scanner found 2 files/dirs in 0.07 sec
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.2739] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (254) 
Removing deleted audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.2747] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (332) 
Scanning new audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.2754] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (410) 
Rescanning changed audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.3232] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (147) 
Rescanning /mnt/mp3music_small/mp3
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.3258] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::rescan (171) 
Discovering audio files in /mnt/mp3music_small/mp3
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.4826] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::AIO::__ANON__ (80) 
AIO scanner found 146 files/dirs in 0.15 sec
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.4883] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (254) 
Removing deleted audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.4893] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (332) 
Scanning new audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.4900] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::__ANON__ (410) 
Rescanning changed audio files (0)
  > [11-10-31 07:21:23.4934] Slim::Utils::Scanner::LMS::rescan (91) Rescanning 
  > ms_add_thumbnail_spec width 160 height 160
  > ms_add_thumbnail_spec width 160 height 160
  > ms_add_thumbnail_spec width 41 height 41
  > ms_add_thumbnail_spec width 40 height 40
  > ms_add_thumbnail_spec width 100 height 100
  > progress_update (null)
  > Segmentation fault
  > 

> > 
> 
> Hopefully it's something with my environment that's causing this
> because else it will be a catastrophe if people start using multiple
> music folders in 7.7.0 release.


erland have a look at bug 17674 and see if it looks familiar to you, I
have 2 music folders . That bug was something elsemto begin with, but
has developed via 33624 to be very similar to what you describe here.
try this start LMS with --noimage --novideo


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-30 Thread Mnyb

erland;666272 Wrote: 
> If you have the time, it would be really great if you could run some
> tests and try to find out which if the plugins, if any, that's causing
> the issues. 
> 
> Feels very strange that my plugins should cause issues like 17639, I
> definitely doesn't mess around with changing anything related to the
> media folders definition. I can see why the database is locked caused
> strange issues but that's gone now as I understand ?

Erland can it be something like this that set it apart:

r79686@andy-imac (orig r33453):  andy | 2011-09-14 12:56:56 -0400
Fixed bug 17358, added a 'rescan external' mode that uses scanner.pl
to perform the rescan. This mode is used if any plugin importers are
enabled and a rescan is started.

Your plugins hook in to the scanning ? (if that was the rigth word)
maybe that is a bug that the following scan is getting to be of the
wrong kind .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7 LMS onboard Touch Idea, more than one file location

2011-10-30 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx;666290 Wrote: 
> I think the biggest reason why this wouldn't work is that Tiny stores
> its database on the media itself, so it would mean using two databases
> somehow, which LMS does not do.

Store duplicates on all media ? maybe that cause to much filesystem
"action" for it's tiny brain :)


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[SlimDevices: Beta] 7.7 LMS onboard Touch Idea, more than one file location

2011-10-30 Thread Mnyb

Now that 7.7 can have more than one music folder specified .

Can it not be so that , Tiny LMS or what you want to call it .

Can be given the ability to use SD card and USB port at the same time
and more than one USB device .

This whole idea falls apart if the scanning invoked upon adding a new
folder gets to be a total scan of all folders, it should scan the added
USB stick or SD card .(otherwise it would be a disaster and making
everything worse not enhancing it) 

The idea is that users having an USB drive and then friends pop over
with USB stick of some more music .

But ofcourse then removing it should not cause a complete rescan of all
folders.(that would also be a disaster) 


maybe this requires some adjustment to the multidirectory scanning in
LMS and can not be considered to 7.7.0 

I will not post it as an enhancement request myself , as imho server
onboard Touch is waste , I'll rather have you all working on 8.0.0 or a
new product :)

But I would not keep what I think is a good idea from you


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-30 Thread Mnyb

erland;666272 Wrote: 
> If you have the time, it would be really great if you could run some
> tests and try to find out which if the plugins, if any, that's causing
> the issues. 
> 
> Feels very strange that my plugins should cause issues like 17639, I
> definitely doesn't mess around with changing anything related to the
> media folders definition. I can see why the database is locked caused
> strange issues but that's gone now as I understand ?

I did try,i twas enough with Dynamicplaylist ?
I can have the license manager installed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Most recent version?

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

Ok then must be something not understod by me with the changelog it
reads tag 7.7.0 on 33626 .

But apparently it is ..614

Then 33626 is the log entry for making 33614 the release ?

So it is out now, sort of ? mysqueezebox.com claims that it still is
7.6.1

But you can get from the link frank posted . They holding the
announcement for some reason.
When was this revue thing release going off again ?

I would use 33624 (I do right now ) it has some fixes.

Apparently work in branches is why it looks like nothing is happening
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Wrong link (?) when clicking on artist from 'browse artists' menu.

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

Sorry...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Wrong link (?) when clicking on artist from 'browse artists' menu.

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

JJZolx;666194 Wrote: 
> It's this bug, actually. I thought it seemed familiar:
> 
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17542
> 
> It happens not only with compilation albums, but any time there is is a
> different ALBUMARTIST for an album. The link is correct, but the wrong
> artist name is displayed.
> 
> The following is a good example. The album is by Frank Sinatra, but has
> guest artists. Luther Vandros only appears only on this one track in my
> library:
> 
> ALBUM=Duets
> TITLE=The Lady Is A Tramp
> TRACKNUMBER=1
> ALBUMARTIST=Frank Sinatra
> ARTIST=Frank Sinatra
> ARTIST=Luther Vandros
> 
> If I search for 'Luther Vandros' SBS will list this album, but it shows
> the album as being by 'Luther Vandros'. If I click on 'Luther Vandros'
> it links to all of Frank Sinatra's albums.


Voted ! It still lingers as unconfirmed ? It needs to reach 3 votes ,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Most recent version?

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

sebp;666209 Wrote: 
> Err, there's absolutely no mystery: each transaction committed to the
> SVN repository increments the revision number.
> And change #33625 'does exist'
> (http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim?view=revision&revision=33625). It
> doesn't appear in the changelog because it's not related to the 7.7
> trunk.

he he lets say it's a mystery to me then :) lets see...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Most recent version?

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

frank1969;666090 Wrote: 
> Thanks,
> 
> that's what I thought too but the logs keeps making me wondering.
> 
> 
> I think this
> 
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/LogitechMediaServer_v7.7.0/
> 
> already IS the release ...
> 
> I'm wondering for andy tagged it as '7.7.0' in r33626 - but actually
> the so 'tagged' 7.7.0 is r33614 - so all the changes in r33625 are
> missing in those "final" version..?

33625 there is no such change how these numbers are genrated is a
mystery but it not a serie where every number is repesented, there are
often gaps .

As stated in the 7.7rc% tread by andy 33624 is the release so it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

These warnings can pop up 

[11-10-29 12:49:13.8080] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1304) Warning:
[12:49:13.8073] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::single(): Query returned more
than one row.  SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find
and ->single at /usr/local/bin/myperl/lib/site_perl/Slim/Schema.pm line
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Most recent version?

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

frank1969;666084 Wrote: 
> Hey, I'm wondering what's the latest version of LMS (7.7)
> 
> There is a (final?) LMS in download directory from 27.10.2011 which is
> r33614.
> 
> The latest nightly - changed on 26.10.12011, one day before - is
> r33624. So is this the lastest version to test? Or is there already a
> 7.7.1?
> 
> Thanks,
> Frank

r33624 is going to be 7.7.0 it may be called 33626 but it is the same.

http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/7.7/?view=log

But the 7.7.1 branch will probably be created the same day as the
release and as soon as the devs commit any new change it will got to
7.7.1
Just keep looking in the nighlies if some 7.7.1 will appear before
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

erland;665468 Wrote: 
> Ok, that's probably the locked database issue.
> 
> I've done a desperate try to solve this in the latest version of
> TrackStat and Dynamic Playlist which I just released, so give it a try
> and report back if it still doesn't work.
> 
> The new logic is that all writes requests in TrackStat and Dynamic
> Playlist are cached and written to the database after the rescan has
> finished. It's not going to work 100% correct as there are a lot of
> places that will still read the old values from the database, but
> hopefully it at least solves the "crashes". My feeling is that this
> isn't a long term solution, it's definitely not something I'd like to
> maintain on longer terms, but hopefully the database is locked bug is
> solved by Logitech in 7.7.x as it's currently scheduled:
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17609
> 
> Anyone that wants to continue using TrackStat and Dynamic Playlist
> during full rescans should give that bug a vote to ensure it gets
> priority.

Tried to load plugin saw no dB locked error at least .

But as experienced in bug 17639 your plugins brake the functionality of
separate scan for a folder .

But here is the weird thing I don't get the dreaded segfaults even if I
have picture and video on ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

HeadBanger;666067 Wrote: 
> Thanks Mnyb. Will give that a go but I'm still thinking I'll just be
> better off with 7.6.2 for now.

You are probably correct just avoid direct connection to mysb.com to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-29 Thread Mnyb

HeadBanger;666062 Wrote: 
> Michael, I have been running SBS for 18 months or so and these are the
> first builds where this has happened. If I roll back to RC5 or 7.6.2
> then it's fine. If you still think it's a file of mine please explain
> what has changed and, more importantly, how on earth do I identify it?
> Has something changed with the artwork caching?
> 
> The scanner appears to carry on when the server crashes. The music scan
> appears to finish but it then endlessly looks for new media so I'm very 
> confused.
> 
> Any help appreciated.

have you tried with music only ? don't define any picture or video
folders .
Don't run the dlan plugin.

And most importantly edit the sysconfig/squeezeboxserver file (or what
it is on freeNAS ) and add
--noimage --novideo as an argument for startup .

This will make 7.7 very similar to 7.6.2 

it may not work at all :-/ just an idea to single out if it is the
newfangled video and picture scanning parts that breaks functionality

In my case i have noted that you don't rely need to have any media
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-28 Thread Mnyb

mherger;666042 Wrote: 
> >> 
> > Or redhat linux ?[/color]
> 
> Exactly. It's not one of these operating systems. But it's one of the 
> 
> files you're scanning, I'm pretty sure. My own main server is CentOS4 
> 
> (RHEL) based too, and I'm scanning 12k images and a bunch of videos 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

No my segfault scanning crash is not about a particular file scan works
fine but I must use.

--noimage and --novideo othervise rescans segfaults regardless if I
have any videos or pictures

Se17674

it can't be a file as the scan actually crashes after the finished scan
message.
And after a restart the new music I added is there and ready to be
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-28 Thread Mnyb

HeadBanger;665999 Wrote: 
> I have to agree. Let's hope that there aren't too many Revue owners
> running FreeNAS..

Or redhat linux ? How is readyas going btw there are bugs against it
claiming that it is not even possiblento installl 7.7 on it

But ofcourse slate is correct if it works for you there are iprovements
and bugfixes making it worthwhile.
Also it is better for ubuntu and debian users acording to some treads.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-28 Thread Mnyb

andyg;665937 Wrote: 
> Well, there is absolutely no Squeezebox integration with Revue and none
> was ever really planned once we found out Android can't really support
> decent audio playback. The plan to turn SBS into LMS came about for a
> couple of reasons: I figured we could get the time to provide a decent
> DLNA server (a long-requested feature), and part of the reason was also
> the hope that it could help keep the server alive & supported if
> necessary by working with another higher-profile Logitech product.
> Ironically, now the Squeezebox seems more popular within Logitech than
> the Revue, but it sure didn't look this way a year ago.
> 
> Anyway, yes, video and image support kinda sucks but we tried hard not
> to break the Squeezebox or music experience. I have a lot of ideas to
> make it better but like everything there just isn't enough time or
> resources.
> 
> Yes there are bugs but I would disagree that it's being "rushed" out
> the door. We've gone through 6 release candidates and had an extra
> month due to Revue update delays, this is a lot better than our typical
> releases.

That actually concur with my experience the squeezeboxserver part is
not broken *If* I really managed to bypass all issues by disabling
picture and video support ?? Did I .

Dlna server ? is not most of the people *not bying squeezeboxes* miffed
about that the players wont conect to a typical dlna media server ? So
the teaming masses want's dlna enabled players not dlna servers ?

" rushed " can it be installed on all platforms yet ?

I'm quite happy that SS/SC/SBS/LMS do exist that really makes these
players go for me :)  focus on that.

the potential for improvement is wast this tread is not the place to
rub in the 100's of improvements that are needed

i do hope that this years core development in "one browser" makes the
product easier to maintain and enhance.

For me most improvement lately has come with the "side show" like iPeng
SqueezePad , Triodes spotify plugin m hergers wonder full little
bandcamp plugin etc.

The scanning is faster than ever for me, so that is getting better
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.7 rc6

2011-10-28 Thread Mnyb

tamanaco;665931 Wrote: 
> Did you see my quote above with Today's (just released) Google +
> Logitech annoucement?
> 
> "... will include an improved Logitech Media Player experience, which
> will deliver smooth access to your personal content, including photos,
> downloaded music files and home videos..."
> 
> "Turning your PC or Mac into a media server will be made even easier
> with our free Logitech Media Server software."

it is puzzling the squeezebox integration is not mentioned at all I 
fail understand to how this comes togehter ? Where exactly is LMS in
all this, an improved revue ok , but conect it to any of the seasoned
dlna server and yuo will be better of ?


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